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2023 Las Vegas Raiders - RIP Jack - one of the greatest Super Bowl moments ever (1 Viewer)

ZADO said:
So interesting dilemma

If the Raiders are up ,say 45 -3 , do they keep AOC in or put in Jimmy G ? The problem is if Jimmy gets hurt the Raiders are on the hook.
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Why would you put Jimmy G in? To try to throw the game for a better draft position? I am not sure what other upside there would be.
 
I have tears of joy in my eyes

I feel like Rudys dad when he saw Notre Dame for the first time haha

this is awesome , i needed so this after last week
 
It's stunning how late Tyree Wilson is to react to the snap on every single play. One play I was tabbing back and forth and just as I tabbed back the ball was snapped and he was just ever-so-slightly late and I got a little excited and was like "oh, that was better, he almost went with everyone else". Then I saw the number 51 on the jersey =/
 
joey said:
They somehow score FOUR points last week, and they’d be .500 right now. glad to know I can still feel tortured after a big win.
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That’s how frustrating this team is. How do you go from getting shutout after your bye week to 63 points the next on a short week? Makes absolutely no sense.
 
The best TD in this whole beatdown was Jack Jones reading Sticks eyes and walking in with the INT

Reminded me of the TD by Jack Squirek`s 5 yard screen read INT on Black Sunday 1984
 
That INT was s-p-e-c-i-a-l. He did his film work and recognized that play right away. He broke on the pass before the ball was even snapped, and he got there so fast he actually overran it by a mile. THEN he makes a one-handed stab to snag it from way behind him. That's one of the best individual plays I have ever seen.
 
Hankmoody said:
That INT was s-p-e-c-i-a-l. He did his film work and recognized that play right away. He broke on the pass before the ball was even snapped, and he got there so fast he actually overran it by a mile. THEN he makes a one-handed stab to snag it from way behind him. That's one of the best individual plays I have ever seen.
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Thats AP`s guy he brought in, makes AP look that much better in Davis`s eyes im sure
 
ZADO said:
Thats AP`s guy he brought in, makes AP look that much better in Davis`s eyes im sure
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When was the last time this team had a blow out like this? Look half decent next three weeks and AP will secure the job for 2024 at least.

Still very confused how they went from shutout last week to 63 this.
 
LawFitz said:
ZADO said:
Thats AP`s guy he brought in, makes AP look that much better in Davis`s eyes im sure
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When was the last time this team had a blow out like this? Look half decent next three weeks and AP will secure the job for 2024 at least.

Still very confused how they went from shutout last week to 63 this.
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NFL is so razor thin on competition that if one team gives 80% then they will get blown out. It’s just how it is with all of the talent in the league. Regardless these guys are the best of the best and o Connell would light it up against inferior competition. I don’t think he’s the solution for you guys but this type of win has got to feel good, especially burying a division rival
 
LawFitz said:
Just watched the YouTube highlight. Amazing how good AOC looks when given some protection.

Where's the guy who thinks guapo Groppo is the better QB?
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:headbang:
he looked good tonight. I have no clue what the hell happened in this game. Receivers were wide open. Super trooper is dropping dimes. 5 turnovers. Still dumbfounded
 
So this is what it felt like all those years to be on the other side of blowouts?

Really though, happy for AP, Bo, the entire coaching staff and all the players. Extra bonus it was against the Dolts.
 
Only explanation is the Chargers D came in flat and rolled over completely once they fell behind. What it did display, however, is that the Raiders need to upgrade the OL this offseason.
 
LawFitz said:
Only explanation is the Chargers D came in flat and rolled over completely once they fell behind. What it did display, however, is that the Raiders need to upgrade the OL this offseason.
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Could Parham be a better center than guard? Hard to gauge anything from a game like that but they didn’t miss a beat without James.
 
Bruno2 said:
LawFitz said:
Only explanation is the Chargers D came in flat and rolled over completely once they fell behind. What it did display, however, is that the Raiders need to upgrade the OL this offseason.
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Could Parham be a better center than guard? Hard to gauge anything from a game like that but they didn’t miss a beat without James.
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Parham has been under performing as a LG this year. A step back from last year but he looked good at C last night. James only costs $1.4 next year. We can keep him but relegate him to back up. Move Parham to Center and bring in a stud LG. I think that would represent a large upgrade for the whole line.

We MUST give props to Munford. He locked Mack down and he wasn't get a ton of help on every snap as well.
 
DA RAIDERS said:
LawFitz said:
James has been disappointing all year. Not sure what happened to that guy this season, but he's been a problem.
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Saw some trolls saying its obviously been James’ fault all season. 😂😂
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His pass pro has been lesser this year but run blocking has been decently good. I don't think you can blame him for the offensive struggles all year. I think it is more of trying to take the trainwreck that McD left on offense and repair the car as it went down the highway.... it isn't easy.
 
LawFitz said:
Raiders are $50 MM under the 2024 cap and can free up another $25 MM by punting Guapo and Renfrow. Only player not under contract that is an above avg NFL starter is Jacobs. They will be in a great place to improve this roster next season if they make good choices.
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I thought we had a pretty easy out on cutting Jimmy G this year but I guess we still have to eat $15 million for that epically dumb signing. Have to wait until after June 1st though. I was hoping we could just move on right when the season ended.
 
Highest graded players last night...

Jack Jones- 94.2
Malcolm Koonce- 91.6
Maxx Crosby- 90.7
Marcus Epps- 89.8
Davante Adams- 86.2

Jack's INT was insane. He obviously put in his work on watching tape because he broke on that play faster than the offensive players broke into their assignments.

Koonce has really been coming on all year long. Getting the most out of his snaps.
 
It was nice to see the Raiders do the obvious, get Tucker involved, phase out Renfro and use Mayers in his place. Two things that stood out:
  1. AOC getting the ball out quickly. He has been holding the ball too long, leading to drive-killing sacks
  2. The Oline was much more physical than in previous games
The rematch with the Chiefs becomes much more interesting next week.
 
Chadstroma said:
Highest graded players last night...

Jack Jones- 94.2
Malcolm Koonce- 91.6
Maxx Crosby- 90.7
Marcus Epps- 89.8
Davante Adams- 86.2

Jack's INT was insane. He obviously put in his work on watching tape because he broke on that play faster than the offensive players broke into their assignments.

Koonce has really been coming on all year long. Getting the most out of his snaps.
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Koonce was going against Slater most of the night too. A highly touted 1st rounder that’s considered a very good tackle. Very impressed with Koonce’s development.
 
Chadstroma said:
Highest graded players last night...

Jack Jones- 94.2
Malcolm Koonce- 91.6
Maxx Crosby- 90.7
Marcus Epps- 89.8
Davante Adams- 86.2

Jack's INT was insane. He obviously put in his work on watching tape because he broke on that play faster than the offensive players broke into their assignments.

Koonce has really been coming on all year long. Getting the most out of his snaps.
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All five are under contract through next season, at least. Though it might make sense to extend Koonce, Epps and perhaps even Jones this offseason, where the Raiders would have some leverage to try to get a market discount by giving the player early security. Those choices could be made after free agency and the draft, once the roster and the budget for extensions become more clear.
 
Hankmoody said:
It's stunning how late Tyree Wilson is to react to the snap on every single play. One play I was tabbing back and forth and just as I tabbed back the ball was snapped and he was just ever-so-slightly late and I got a little excited and was like "oh, that was better, he almost went with everyone else". Then I saw the number 51 on the jersey =/
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I've been pretty critical of Tyree so far, and he's mostly earned it, but I did notice something interesting last night. He's not often late off the snap when he's lined up inside and I even noticed a couple from the left end side where he's mostly on time too. Could he have some kind of eyesight/hearing/other sensory issue? His play from the RE is downright atrocious, everyone else is up and out of their stance before he's reacting, but the other alignments seem a lot better? I don't get to watch many Raider games these days so it's not something I've spent much time on, but if anyone has NFL Pass or any all-22 or even games saved on DVR this might be something interesting to look for.
 
Hankmoody said:
Hankmoody said:
It's stunning how late Tyree Wilson is to react to the snap on every single play. One play I was tabbing back and forth and just as I tabbed back the ball was snapped and he was just ever-so-slightly late and I got a little excited and was like "oh, that was better, he almost went with everyone else". Then I saw the number 51 on the jersey =/
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I've been pretty critical of Tyree so far, and he's mostly earned it, but I did notice something interesting last night. He's not often late off the snap when he's lined up inside and I even noticed a couple from the left end side where he's mostly on time too. Could he have some kind of eyesight/hearing/other sensory issue? His play from the RE is downright atrocious, everyone else is up and out of their stance before he's reacting, but the other alignments seem a lot better? I don't get to watch many Raider games these days so it's not something I've spent much time on, but if anyone has NFL Pass or any all-22 or even games saved on DVR this might be something interesting to look for.
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I didn’t notice his plays when inside. But left end seems hit or miss. Always a little slow. Sometimes he counts 2 Mississippis
 
LawFitz said:
Only explanation is the Chargers D came in flat and rolled over completely once they fell behind. What it did display, however, is that the Raiders need to upgrade the OL this offseason.
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We only scored one offensive TD in the 2nd half

I do enjoy that these massive blowout games we have every so often have been vs in the division. Although, if it were say an NFC team we may have got past 73
 
Hankmoody said:
It's stunning how late Tyree Wilson is to react to the snap on every single play. One play I was tabbing back and forth and just as I tabbed back the ball was snapped and he was just ever-so-slightly late and I got a little excited and was like "oh, that was better, he almost went with everyone else". Then I saw the number 51 on the jersey =/
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The optimist would point out that Wilson is coming off foot surgery and missed most of the offseason. They would advocate patience.

That is what they would say.

Me? I think it was a huge mistake to pass on Carter. Wilson has not even flashed this season, leaving me less hopeful with each passing game.
 
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