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I hate this one. One of the appealing things about this team was it’s young talent and now we’re singing guys like Lazard and talking about Hopkins and OBJ. Going “all in” with Rodgers is fine - but why does the rest of the roster have to age. The guys they have actually made even Zach Wilson look good at times.
Meh, it's not really an important position.
As a Nets fan I witnessed 1st hand an up and coming young team sell their soul and roster for a "superstar" - the rubble left after it fails is brutal. JD needs to avoid that type of disaster
Great analogy. Obviously I’m on board with Rodgers and hope he leads us to at least an AFC Championship game - but part of what made the team so attractive for a new QB was all the young talent in the passing game.
correct - Rodgers could easily do the same. If this lasts past the draft then Ill start getting worried.
The Packers may be waiting to see what their needs are post-draft before agreeing to terms. For instance, if Corey Davis is tentatively in the deal and they draft Jordan Addison, they probably wouldn't want to take on Davis' contract.
But then they wouldn't be able to get any 2023 picks in the deal.
Fair point - maybe it happens during the draft then. Who knows - it's a bit ridiculous regardless.
very tough to say without knowing full contract for Lamar and compensation for both- all things being equal Id rather have a much younger former MVP but its not that easy
Lamar in a walk for me.
JD has very close ties to the front office - I believe he either wont be the one who stabs them (and rest of the league) in the back with a fully guaranteed contract or they have told him off the record that theyll match anything so dont waste your time.
Yeah, I agree Lamar isn't happening. Just answering if there was a choice between Lamar and Rodgers, I'd take Lamar in a heartbeat.
The whole argument about who had more leverage never made sense to me. There were never any indications that this negotiation was contentious. Both teams have the same goal. Both are smart enough to work it out. Most of it was impatience by the media and by fans.I think we can temper the leverage talk a bit now after Gutekunst came out and basically told you they don't think they will get a 1st for him:
Packers GM Brian Gutekunst doesn't view getting first-round pick as 'necessity' in Aaron Rodgers trade
Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst does not believe receiving a first-round pick in a trade for Aaron Rodgers is a necessity, but he is still interested in getting a premier price back for a premier player.www.nfl.com
This coupled with Joe Douglas saying he isn't in a rush tells me that this isn't as contentious as many are making it out to be. Sure leverage is a factor in every negotiation, but anyone thinking 13 was in play can pretty much forget that now. The differences are around salary and timing mostly IMO since it will actually cost GB more to trade him prior to 6/1 but if they wait they don't get any picks this year. The dance around picks this year, protection from him retiring next year and the amount of money each team is on the hook for will get resolved and we'll look back at "Two firsts and Sauce" and have a good laugh.
Seems like it's basically a big game of "chicken" at this point to see who relents first.The whole argument about who had more leverage never made sense to me. There were never any indications that this negotiation was contentious. Both teams have the same goal. Both are smart enough to work it out. Most of it was impatience by the media and by fans.I think we can temper the leverage talk a bit now after Gutekunst came out and basically told you they don't think they will get a 1st for him:
Packers GM Brian Gutekunst doesn't view getting first-round pick as 'necessity' in Aaron Rodgers trade
Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst does not believe receiving a first-round pick in a trade for Aaron Rodgers is a necessity, but he is still interested in getting a premier price back for a premier player.
This coupled with Joe Douglas saying he isn't in a rush tells me that this isn't as contentious as many are making it out to be. Sure leverage is a factor in every negotiation, but anyone thinking 13 was in play can pretty much forget that now. The differences are around salary and timing mostly IMO since it will actually cost GB more to trade him prior to 6/1 but if they wait they don't get any picks this year. The dance around picks this year, protection from him retiring next year and the amount of money each team is on the hook for will get resolved and we'll look back at "Two firsts and Sauce" and have a good laugh.
SF has no picks. Think the Jets can compete with that. Plus this smells like BS. Why would SF just be moving in four weeks after the start of free agency?
Carton is far from a source. That scumbag openly admits that he lies and changes his opinions based on the day and the show he's on to draw ratings. How anyone could take him seriously is beyond me. Guy acts like he's reformed after his massive undoing a few years back, yet nothing's changed - he's still a liar, maybe just not gambling anymore.
I can not believe WFAN hired this guy back - you have to figure a large part of the people he ripped off were listeners. It’s gross he’s back on the air - I don’t listen to sports talk radio, generally, anymore but there’s no chance I’d listen to that loser. It’s not like he even knew sports all that well back when he was originally on - and I never really was a fan of his schtick.
They knew they had nothing to replace Francesca with. Frankly, Mickey Mouse ESPN radio probably would have grabbed him if not. For whatever dumb reason, the guy gets stupidly good ratings. I don't find him funny or the slightest bit knowledgeable and hardly listen at this point.
I agree with all points in this post.
Oddly, I'm in the same boat. The way this played out, it's hard to get excited about it anymore. If at this point the deal fell through (I don't think it does), I would just chalk it up to "it's the Jets" and move on.
The only issue to me is the conditional bump being tied to his playing time and not playoff status, but oh well. It’s really not a huge price especially if it works.
I think we are so used to JD fleecing in deals - just wasnt going to happen with a commodity like Rodgers. I really hope he committed to at least 2 season - thats a ton of capital for a one and done...but as you said - whatever. Ill give it up for a fun season and possibly a super bowl run after a decade of misery!
im sure all the offensive players re ecstatic! Can you imagine going from Wilson/M White to Aaron freaking Rodgers? lol
