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Let me bring you back to doom and gloom. Did you hear Avery WIlliamson's comments? Basically that we don't practice to win. Oh boy. He was on the FAN and spoke his mind. He probably didn't enjoy watching that bum Ogletree get beat on that long td instead of him playing.
I just read the transcript. Sounds like he's trying to walk a fine line between crossing McDougald, who is the one who originally said they don't practice to win, and pissing off his head coach. He says the onus is on the players to practice well and "start fast[er]"

 
I just read the transcript. Sounds like he's trying to walk a fine line between crossing McDougald, who is the one who originally said they don't practice to win, and pissing off his head coach. He says the onus is on the players to practice well and "start fast[er]"
Bottom line, this team is gar-bage and stinks from the top.

 
Bottom line, this team is gar-bage and stinks from the top.
Oh, you won't catch me disagreeing in any way about that. It's just that I think Williamson was trying to do a diplomatic radio spot and some of his other teammates are responsible for the "loser" rhetoric. That's a tough position to be in. You want to advance your career and do the radio show, but you don't want to cross teammates and coaches. Bad situation to be in, and I think he handled it well.

What remains to be seen is how that social goon Gase handles what he said and whether his socially inept self can appreciate subtlety and context. 

 
I got a feeling of sadness because I know it's likely to be true. We're gonna win just enough to not get Lawrence. Or, in typical Jets fashion, they'll get number one but overthink it and take a different quarterback rating a little more highly by the scouts. Watching Lawrence for the rest of his career becomes sheer football weekly torture.  

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It absolutely is going to be true...not a doubt in my mind this "dream" I had will in fact come to fruition. It's the way we roll here in Jetland.

On those rare occasions when we are good, we are just not good enough. And even when we suck, we don't suck enough.

That's what's going to happen this year...you can go to the bank on it!....uggggggg

 
It absolutely is going to be true...not a doubt in my mind this "dream" I had will in fact come to fruition. It's the way we roll here in Jetland.

On those rare occasions when we are good, we are just not good enough. And even when we suck, we don't suck enough.

That's what's going to happen this year...you can go to the bank on it!....uggggggg
With the Rangers landing KK and Laf plus Cohen buying the Mets, how much karma do you think that we have left for the Jets? I won't even mention the Knicks. They are a lost cause.

 
With the Rangers landing KK and Laf plus Cohen buying the Mets, how much karma do you think that we have left for the Jets? I won't even mention the Knicks. They are a lost cause.
Wow you know...didn't even think about it like that. I really think the karma is all used up for this year. The Rangers are done getting #### from the hockey gods for another 3 decades as we have enough now to win a few Cups. The Mets with Cohen do have some hope as we'll finally break out the check book and bring in some studs. The Knicks? They got their love back in 1985 when they got Ewing so the Knicks are done for another 2 more decades...lol.

Seriously, I don't see the Jets being competitive for another 2-3 years when Douglass has weeded out the dregs and has brought in the right players. I do trust him tho I have to say no matter how ####ty we are and will be this year. It's hard to undo the damage that Mac and Idzik did to this franchise and it's certainly going to take more than one or two drafts that's for sure.

 
Was having a few cocktails with a couple of buddies of mine at a happy hour where I live here near Philly and we were talking about how ####ty both the Jets and Eagles are thus far.

These guys are bigtime Eagle fans and they do fantasy as well so they know their ####. So I asked them if your me and the Jets end up so fortunate to have the #1 overall pick at end of season, do we take Trevor Lawrence or do we deal him away to some other team for a "Hershel Walker" like return?

They both looked at me and said it was a no brainer. The Jets have so many holes still too fill that you trade the pick away, get yourself 2 first rounders a couple of second and third rounders. You add them to the draft capital that you already got and you don't look back as you got the pieces now to build around Darnold and you patch up any  other holes you have on defense.

Both of them swear by Douglass as well as they actually were hoping he'd stay with Philly and take over for Howie Roseman cause it was Douglass in their opinions and his player eval skills that was the real reason Philly had the right players to win that SB.

I think they are right now that I think about it. If we get the #1 overall, we need to deal it away for the haul of the century and I trust Douglass would pick the right players. Think about how bad the Cowboys were in the late 80's till the Walker deal. After that deal, they had that one growing pain bad year when Aikmen  was a rookie and than they took off and won a few Super Bowls and remained relevant and competitive for a decade or so after that.

We would have the same opportunity to do  that here. We have the QB...I'm still convinced of it. We have some other pieces as well in Becton and Quinnen and Maye. We get Sam some nice and shiny  toys to play with, we fortify the O-Line some more. We finally get an edge  rusher and some cover corners and voila....we have ourselves not just a competitive football team but a team that  could do some damage once we got to the playoffs. And I could give two ####s if Trevor Lawrence became a HOF QB. So long as the Jets got the haul we needed to become relevant, competitive and a winning football team again.

For those who  would take  Lawrence and not the haul I'm talking about. So you pick Lawrence and you still have tons of needs and you don't have the draft capital to fill them as you would by keeping Sam and trading the pick.

One caveat to this dream scenario of mine as the only thing we'd be missing would be the "Jimmy Johnson" part and that's what Douglass has to figure out. Who can he find to be the guy to lead us to the next level? Is he out there? Do we even know who that looks like? Is Sean Payton available as he'd be a great guy for Sam to learn from? I'd give Eric Bienemy a very very hard look as well as he checks alot of boxes for me. We need to find that guy and frankly I don't know who that is.

Bottom line: We get fortunate to get the  #1 overall...we trade it and get the biggest haul in NFL history...simple as that!

 
Damn....Gale Sayers died today....####!. Loved that guy.

Loved watching him play. Other than Barry Sanders, Sayers might be the most exciting player who ever lived.

####, I loved the movie "Brian's Song" which was the first movie I ever cried at.

Gale Sayers was one of the greats...he'll be missed...sniff sniff!!

 
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And Pro Football Focus has to eat crow on Becton, because they questioned the selection and did some first-guessing (Sam Monson) that doesn't look so good right now for them. They were all over the Jets for their moves to improve their offensive line, saying that they invested money on unproven guys and that it was a bad risk to do so. They could still be borne out right, but Becton has apparently stood out as quality.

Best overall grade of the rookie first-rounders? Chase Young of Washington. Second? Becton.
The money they spent were all basically one year contracts - very little risk. Another blow to PFF.

 
Oh, Maximus*.

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Oh, Maximus*.

:wall:
I get that I'm on an island on this one but listen, I've been a Jet fan for close to 50 years and I know all about #### blowing up into our faces. This tho is a gamble I'd be willing too take as we are so far away from even being even relevant. And it's cause I trust Douglass knows what the hell he's doing. It probably would be a win/win for both Lawrence and the Jets if we traded the #1 overall for as I said the motherload!.

Meantime I'm starting to get nervous we might give the Colts a game of it Sunday as the Colts are banged up and aren't looking so hot and so we have an outside shot at "damaging" our run for the 1st overall...lol

 
I realized that I haven't rage-posted (or Rage-posted) about Gase today. I just saw a Dan Orlovsky tweet that got me going again.  It's painful to read, but have it.

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1308766806912401413?s=20

I'll save you the click.

Just got done with the

@nyjets

tape. Trying to be respectful: -their off game plan was built around fear. Fear of mistakes-from everyone. -again completely unprepared for SF D -never tried to win game -situational coaching is awful -SF down people-they never threatens the backups

 
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I realized that I haven't rage-posted (or Rage-posted) about Gase today. I just saw a Dan Orlovsky tweet that got me going again.  It's painful to read, but have it.

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1308766806912401413?s=20

I'll save you the click.

Just got done with the

@nyjets

tape. Trying to be respectful: -their off game plan was built around fear. Fear of mistakes-from everyone. -again completely unprepared for SF D -never tried to win game -situational coaching is awful -SF down people-they never threatens the backups
I saw him on one of the ESPN morning shows where he said something similar- the Jets game plan was designed not to lose big instead of trying to win. It’s obvious when you’re running Frank Gore straight ahead into the SF line that you’re just killing clock and have no hope of actually winning the game.

 
I had a dream about this and I'm almost positive this is going to happen because this is the Jets we are talking about come late December.

Heading into the Week 16's final game of the season vs New England, Jets will be humming along on the way to the #1 overall pick and Trevor Lawrence with a 2-13 record. The Lions will be 3-12 and are our only competition. If Jets lose...they lock up the #1 pick.If the Lions win we lock up the #1 overall pick no matter what happens in Foxboro.  If they win however and Lions lose, they end up 2nd to the Lions due to tiebreakers and #### that the Lions have over the Jets.

The Patriots who have locked up the #1 WC spot have nothing to play for and coach hoodie who never ever rests his starters sees that he can screw the Jets once again by letting them win and he won't have to game plan for Lawrence for the next half dozen years, so he rests all of his starters for most part. Jets go all out and play everyone...Darnold looks amazing, throws for 450 yds and 4 TD's and Jets win at Foxboro 42-13. Meanwhile Lions with 2 seconds left in 4th quarter down 19-17 to the Vikings,  Matt Prater with a chance to win the game misses a 25 yard chippy, Lions lose and Jets end up with the #2 overall pick.

Anyone want to make a bet with me that this is exactly the scenario that will play out for the Jets.? Yeah didn't think so.....lol
I don't see it this way.

Lions will score a touchdown to move within 1 point of the Vikings.  Go for the 2-point conversion and make it but it's negated by a personal foul.  Then 3 successful extra point kicks (all again negated by penalties) then a Hail Mary 2-point conversion try that is stopped at the 1 yard line.

The Lions gotta do something to top the heart-attack inducing Bengals-Dolphins finish from last year.

-QG

 
I saw him on one of the ESPN morning shows where he said something similar- the Jets game plan was designed not to lose big instead of trying to win. It’s obvious when you’re running Frank Gore straight ahead into the SF line that you’re just killing clock and have no hope of actually winning the game.
As a neutral I saw the same thing.  A contrast with Judge coaching the Giants who did everything he could to instill confidence in his players that they could win.  

The big question for you guys is whether Douglass will ever feel empowered enough to kick Gase to the curb.

-QG

 
I don't see it this way.

Lions will score a touchdown to move within 1 point of the Vikings.  Go for the 2-point conversion and make it but it's negated by a personal foul.  Then 3 successful extra point kicks (all again negated by penalties) then a Hail Mary 2-point conversion try that is stopped at the 1 yard line.

The Lions gotta do something to top the heart-attack inducing Bengals-Dolphins finish from last year.

-QG
That's some funny ### #### but I still think the Jets would end up 2nd overall.

Good imagination tho I'll give you that!...😎

 
That's some funny ### #### but I still think the Jets would end up 2nd overall.

Good imagination tho I'll give you that!...😎
My Bengals scoring 23 points in the last 6 and a half minutes (and 16 in the last 2 1/2 minutes) in that Dolphins game raised the bar.  I will be forever grateful to Brian Flores for running out the overtime clock before trying that last field goal.

Your move Jets.

-QG

 
As a neutral I saw the same thing.  A contrast with Judge coaching the Giants who did everything he could to instill confidence in his players that they could win.  

The big question for you guys is whether Douglass will ever feel empowered enough to kick Gase to the curb.

-QG
I've said it a few times in the past few days here. Gun to my head, I think unless Jets are 1-9 or maybe 2-8 at the week 11 bye, will stick with Gase till the end of the season. Douglass has a history with Gase as they worked with one another in Chicago and one would think due to Gase being a big reason Douglass got the job here in NY and a #### ton of money, there is a loyalty issue that likely needs to be considered. 

That said, best us Jet fans can hope for if we want Gase gone this season is if we completely tank up to the bye week which looking at the schedule is quite possible.

There's my .02 coppers for ya for what it's worth.

 
aside from firing Gase of course what can happen in the next couple weeks to instill some confidence in you guys?  I mean you guys had that surprising 2nd half last year - what do you think gets you back to that?

-QG

 
aside from firing Gase of course what can happen in the next couple weeks to instill some confidence in you guys?  I mean you guys had that surprising 2nd half last year - what do you think gets you back to that?

-QG
The schedule that we had in the second half of last year? The players that were here like Anderson, Bell, and Adams, regardless of how much I might have complained when they were here? I think a few things would get us back to that, but we beat cream puffs the end of last season. I'd have to look it up, but they weren't very good teams. I was personally okay with their personnel decisions, and the two teams we just faced out of the gate were playoff teams last year and this year. 

But they look really, really bad.

 
aside from firing Gase of course what can happen in the next couple weeks to instill some confidence in you guys?  I mean you guys had that surprising 2nd half last year - what do you think gets you back to that?

-QG
Just to clarify, last year's 6-2 record after the 1-7 start was much more about the schedule being as cup cake of a schedule as you could possibly dream of combined with Sam getting healthy and having some decent weaponry at his disposal. Now I'm not saying great weapons at all but Robbie Anderson, Bell, Ryan Griffin who was great BTW, Crowder and Demarious Thomas is 10x better than what Sam has right now even with the O-line playing like ####.

I don't see us getting back to that to be frank even with the O-line a bit better. The schedule is brutal, the Jets have the least amount of  talent in the entire league and IMO what you see is what you are going to get the rest of the way with an occasional blip by accident of some solid play that occurs just because it's football and on occasion even for this god forsaken cursed team, the football gods throw us a bone every now and again and allow for a good moment or two....hope that helps.....lol

 
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Who's free on Sunday?

NYPost_Cannizzaro@MarkCannizzaro

“We’re down to whoever has a pulse ... whoever’s available.” - #Jets HC Adam Gase just now in plight of his injury-riddled team in advance of Sunday game in Indy

 
Starting WRs for Sunday: Berrios, Hogan and Malone. Eberfluss may not get any sleep worrying how he’s going to stop an offensive genius with weapons like that.

 
Starting WRs for Sunday: Berrios, Hogan and Malone. Eberfluss may not get any sleep worrying how he’s going to stop an offensive genius with weapons like that.
Man oh man do I miss the days of Chrebet, Keyshawn and Dedric Ward or a few years later Chrebet, Lavernious Coles, Santana Moss. 

Heck at this point I'd take back Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker and Jeff Cumberland...lol

This is bad on an historic and epic level now. I mean ####, most SEC teams WR and TE's corps are better than ours....ugggggg

 
Yeah, Sunday is NOT going to be watchable.

Playing in a golf tournament this weekend. Gonna treat the threat of having to sit through this game as extra motivation to win on Saturday (so that I have to play on Sunday)

 
Both of them swear by Douglass as well as they actually were hoping he'd stay with Philly and take over for Howie Roseman cause it was Douglass in their opinions and his player eval skills that was the real reason Philly had the right players to win that SB.
From the perspective of another Eagles fan, that's actually a pretty terrible take. Douglass prompted Howie to make some good FA signings (and I think Foles was more Doug Pederson and Howie than Douglass), but the three drafts that he had input into, 2017, 2018 and 2019, don't look very good. (He was hired in 2016 after that year's draft, in which the Eagles traded up for Wentz.) Those three drafts have yielded a grand total of two impact players, Dallas Goedert and Miles Sanders. To be fair, there wasn't a whole lot to get in the 2018 draft due to picks lost from the Wentz trade, but only 2 of 8 players remain from the 2017 draft, and every pick from 2019 aside from Sanders looks dreadful. 

Sorry to rain on your parade. 

 
From the perspective of another Eagles fan, that's actually a pretty terrible take. Douglass prompted Howie to make some good FA signings (and I think Foles was more Doug Pederson and Howie than Douglass), but the three drafts that he had input into, 2017, 2018 and 2019, don't look very good. (He was hired in 2016 after that year's draft, in which the Eagles traded up for Wentz.) Those three drafts have yielded a grand total of two impact players, Dallas Goedert and Miles Sanders. To be fair, there wasn't a whole lot to get in the 2018 draft due to picks lost from the Wentz trade, but only 2 of 8 players remain from the 2017 draft, and every pick from 2019 aside from Sanders looks dreadful. 

Sorry to rain on your parade. 
I honestly couldn't say about those Philly drafts because I don't know how much impact he had, but I have read the same from another Philly fan.  At least he seems to have hit a home run with Becton this year. The jury is out on the rest of his draft. Davis looked great in camp, but hasn't played on defense yet. The rest of his draft class has been hurt. Even Perine had a good camp, but got hurt. He also got good value in his trades. Time will tell.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
aside from firing Gase of course what can happen in the next couple weeks to instill some confidence in you guys?  I mean you guys had that surprising 2nd half last year - what do you think gets you back to that?

-QG
A time machine...... and thats about it.

 TZM

 
QuizGuy66 said:
aside from firing Gase of course what can happen in the next couple weeks to instill some confidence in you guys?  I mean you guys had that surprising 2nd half last year - what do you think gets you back to that?

-QG
A little longer than a couple of weeks. More of season-long aspirations:

Becton continues to play well.

Darnold somehow overcomes Gase and his own bad tendencies to not have us draft a QB and start over again.

Mims gets healthy, contributes and flashes his potential.

A. Davis gains some playing time and shows that he might be ready for a full time role in 2021.

Perine to get the majority of the carries since neither Gore nor Bell have a future with this team.

Zuniga not to be a bust and maybe we can finally get some kind of pass rush.

Maybe get Cameron Clark some playing time at guard over either of the current bums.

R Wilson to come down with mono and improve our draft picks.

Gase and Manish Mehta in a cage match to the death.

Yeah, that will pick up our spirits.

 
From the perspective of another Eagles fan, that's actually a pretty terrible take. Douglass prompted Howie to make some good FA signings (and I think Foles was more Doug Pederson and Howie than Douglass), but the three drafts that he had input into, 2017, 2018 and 2019, don't look very good. (He was hired in 2016 after that year's draft, in which the Eagles traded up for Wentz.) Those three drafts have yielded a grand total of two impact players, Dallas Goedert and Miles Sanders. To be fair, there wasn't a whole lot to get in the 2018 draft due to picks lost from the Wentz trade, but only 2 of 8 players remain from the 2017 draft, and every pick from 2019 aside from Sanders looks dreadful. 

Sorry to rain on your parade. 
Sniff Sniff...me sad now as I thought Joe Douglass was Jesus H. Christ....dammit....lol

I'm  just paraphrasing what a few of my buds said too me. If you think your take  is more accurate, than so be it as I'm not as close to the Eagle situation as you are. I'm flexible and love to hear all sides of the coin..

That said, I still think Douglass has a solid enough pedigree having learned from the best in Ozzie Newsome and Howie combined with some of the good stuff he's done in his short time here, that I feel reasonably confident that in 2-4 years from now, alot of us here in Jetland, after he has turned this ship around, will say that  Douglass is by far the best GM we've ever had.

Now I get that that's not saying alot seeing it's not like we've had all too many Bobby Bethard, George Young types here as GM's to crow about, but I think you know what I'm getting at.

 
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I have no idea whether Douglas REALLY knows what he's doing. All i know is that this is the first draft in a while where there wasn't a pick (especially an early pick) that had me saying "What the ####?"

Who knows if these guys will work out. But all the picks "made sense" to me at the time. That certainly cant be said about previous drafts.

 
I have no idea whether Douglas REALLY knows what he's doing. All i know is that this is the first draft in a while where there wasn't a pick (especially an early pick) that had me saying "What the ####?"

Who knows if these guys will work out. But all the picks "made sense" to me at the time. That certainly cant be said about previous drafts.
The ONLY pick that Douglass made during the draft that I even went "hmmm" too was the second 4th round selection of ours in James Morgan. I really really thought Douglass was going to go WR there as there were still a few good ones left over and so that pick left me wondering "what if". But like you, this last draft of ours was one of the very very few that I came out of thinking that there was a plan, it made sense and it looks like we got some good prospects.  

Douglass's ability to maneuver quite smoothly by moving down, getting additional draft capital and still getting his guy(ie...Mims) were moves I don't recall any Jet GM ever doing and actually working out. I mean we still have to see about Mims but for a guy who was thought to be a top 10 WR talent and possible 1st round pick, for Douglass to get him at 59th overall after moving from 48 and getting an additional 4th round pick, just seemed so "un Jet like"....lol

 
The ONLY pick that Douglass made during the draft that I even went "hmmm" too was the second 4th round selection of ours in James Morgan. I really really thought Douglass was going to go WR there as there were still a few good ones left over and so that pick left me wondering "what if". But like you, this last draft of ours was one of the very very few that I came out of thinking that there was a plan, it made sense and it looks like we got some good prospects.  

Douglass's ability to maneuver quite smoothly by moving down, getting additional draft capital and still getting his guy(ie...Mims) were moves I don't recall any Jet GM ever doing and actually working out. I mean we still have to see about Mims but for a guy who was thought to be a top 10 WR talent and possible 1st round pick, for Douglass to get him at 59th overall after moving from 48 and getting an additional 4th round pick, just seemed so "un Jet like"....lol
I actually dont mind the QB pick as a backup was a high priority....love the Becton pick who if the draft was redone today may be top 5.....Mims I liked at the time but he needs to get on the field.....Ashtyn Davis has had a slow start and everyone else is hurt.....so jury is still out on the draft.....

Early FA - solid job on OL, RB but terrible job at WR and DB......need a huge talent upgrade there.  

 
I actually dont mind the QB pick as a backup was a high priority....love the Becton pick who if the draft was redone today may be top 5.....Mims I liked at the time but he needs to get on the field.....Ashtyn Davis has had a slow start and everyone else is hurt.....so jury is still out on the draft.....

Early FA - solid job on OL, RB but terrible job at WR and DB......need a huge talent upgrade there.  
#### I'm too the point now where I'd even give Johnny "Lam" Jones a call and see if his hands have finally caught up with his speed now that it's 35 years later...lol

And while we are at it maybe Joe Douglass should get on the horn and see if former "Jet greats" Stephen Hill and Devon Smith  want their old gigs back...haha

 
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The ONLY pick that Douglass made during the draft that I even went "hmmm" too was the second 4th round selection of ours in James Morgan.
I didn't get that pick at all. Why are you drafting a project that projects to be, at best, a back up? I was hoping he'd go WR there. Tyler Johnson was still on the board, as were John Hightower and a few others that weren't just there but that made clubs (Hightower in particular was a late-round sort of boon for the Eagles to fill depth needs at WR) and have the potential to be pretty good swings for fences at some point.

 
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Low turnovers and sacks thus far 
Guess it depends on your scoring setup then. If points are primary, then it's probably a good play. As far as sacks go, the line gave up the most pressures of any team in Week One at 43 percent. I'm not sure what last game saw. I know Becton is ranked eleventh among tackles, Fant is 53rd or so among tackles, Van Roten and Alex Lewis below 44th in pass blocking grades for guards.

That's all I can cull from my subscriptions and homerdom. And I'll be honest. I'm not even watching the Jets Sundays, so maybe this isn't the best homer advice. In years past, I could tell you. Now I just see no need to waste a Sunday time slot with bad football. 

 
Guess it depends on your scoring setup then. If points are primary, then it's probably a good play. As far as sacks go, the line gave up the most pressures of any team in Week One at 43 percent. I'm not sure what last game saw. I know Becton is ranked eleventh among tackles, Fant is 53rd or so among tackles, Van Roten and Alex Lewis below 44th in pass blocking grades for guards.

That's all I can cull from my subscriptions and homerdom. And I'll be honest. I'm not even watching the Jets Sundays, so maybe this isn't the best homer advice. In years past, I could tell you. Now I just see no need to waste a Sunday time slot with bad football. 
Fant is out homer-boy. McGovern is iffy. They brought someone up from the practice squad. Van Roten is Van Rotten. Alex Lewis sucks, too.

 
Guess it depends on your scoring setup then. If points are primary, then it's probably a good play. As far as sacks go, the line gave up the most pressures of any team in Week One at 43 percent. I'm not sure what last game saw. I know Becton is ranked eleventh among tackles, Fant is 53rd or so among tackles, Van Roten and Alex Lewis below 44th in pass blocking grades for guards.

That's all I can cull from my subscriptions and homerdom. And I'll be honest. I'm not even watching the Jets Sundays, so maybe this isn't the best homer advice. In years past, I could tell you. Now I just see no need to waste a Sunday time slot with bad football. 
Understandable. Thanks. 

 
Yeah, I realized as I writing that that I hadn't even ####### watched this team. :lmao:

Given the news, guess I'm firing up my IDP DE Justin Houston for the affair. Let's hope he doesn't get Becton'd.
I don't blame you for not watching this garbage product, but if you're going to dole out advice, you gotta be on top of things.

D. Buckner should have a field day if his back isn't an issue.

 
I don't blame you for not watching this garbage product, but if you're going to dole out advice, you gotta be on top of things.
Yeah, that's why I typed what I did as I was going along. The part about "I'm not the best person..." The first gusto was simply an obvious answer to an obvious question. Indianapolis is number one according to Yahoo projections for D/ST points, among other places. I felt qualified to answer as a football fan, never mind homer. 

 
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