2023 NFL MVP race (3 Viewers)

[-OZ-]

truly believe that almost any QB placed in Purdy's spot does a similar job in terms of results... Because SF has basically shown it can and has.

Yet Jimmy wasn’t as good last year. Wasn’t Jimmy 7-4 before going out, then Brock won 6 straight? They lost to Philly because Brock was injured (may have lost anyway but it got ugly without him). This year he’s playing among the best.
If any QB other than Mr irrelevant were performing like he has, there wouldn’t be nearly as many detractors.

He’s MVP unless Dak, Josh, or Tua show otherwise in the next 3 weeks.
Although I’d give it to Tyreek with CMC #2.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

You must not have watched many games.

I'm glad you caught that

-I don't want to be labeled a Purdy hater because I think Purdy is good for this special Niners team that might have the best collection of talent on a roster since the Seahawks 10 years ago with Russ which is why i brought him up earlier.

-I thought Jimmy was holding the Niners back even though he was needed when he arrived there.

And FTR, I have CMC in just about every redraft league where I could get him, WRs went so early he sometimes fell to me between 3-5 one guy took Ekeler over him.
And because I'm biased and had a pretty good sized investment in CMC, I'd also vote for him ahead of Purdy.

-You can't overlook how different SF was with Lance vs Purdy or Jimmy G vs Purdy, think Purdy has won both of those

 

[Dickies]

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

You must not have watched many games.

I'm glad you caught that

-I don't want to be labeled a Purdy hater because I think Purdy is good for this special Niners team that might have the best collection of talent on a roster since the Seahawks 10 years ago with Russ which is why i brought him up earlier.

-I thought Jimmy was holding the Niners back even though he was needed when he arrived there.

And FTR, I have CMC in just about every redraft league where I could get him, WRs went so early he sometimes fell to me between 3-5 one guy took Ekeler over him.
And because I'm biased and had a pretty good sized investment in CMC, I'd also vote for him ahead of Purdy.

-You can't overlook how different SF was with Lance vs Purdy or Jimmy G vs Purdy, think Purdy has won both of those

I feel like we had this conversation when Brady took over for Bledsoe. Bledsoe was a #1 pick, had a proven track record of being a successful QB, and in comes Brady who doesn't have the arm strength or the pedigree of a top QB, but made good decisions, could read the coverage and hit the open man, and didn't turn the ball over.

I'm not saying by any means that Purdy is the next Tom Brady, but I see a lot of similarities. A lot of people are knocking him for always having WRs open, but there are a lot of other QBs in the NFL who have WRs open and don't recognize it and try to force the ball into tight windows in coverage. Purdy, IMHO, has top tier vision and decision making abilities. When he got his first opportunity I remember thinking to myself how much faster he gets rid of the ball than Jimmy G ever did.

I've never heard someone criticize Montana because he had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman. I've never heard someone criticize Peyton Manning because he had Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokely and Dallas Clark.

I'm not even a Niners fan, but I live in the bay area and end up watching most of their games. The kid is special and has that "it factor". I find myself rooting for him even though they are my own team's rivals because he is a likeable guy and I want him to silence all of these critics.

 

[jumper]

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

You must not have watched many games.

I'm glad you caught that

-I don't want to be labeled a Purdy hater because I think Purdy is good for this special Niners team that might have the best collection of talent on a roster since the Seahawks 10 years ago with Russ which is why i brought him up earlier.

-I thought Jimmy was holding the Niners back even though he was needed when he arrived there.

And FTR, I have CMC in just about every redraft league where I could get him, WRs went so early he sometimes fell to me between 3-5 one guy took Ekeler over him.
And because I'm biased and had a pretty good sized investment in CMC, I'd also vote for him ahead of Purdy.

-You can't overlook how different SF was with Lance vs Purdy or Jimmy G vs Purdy, think Purdy has won both of those

I feel like we had this conversation when Brady took over for Bledsoe. Bledsoe was a #1 pick, had a proven track record of being a successful QB, and in comes Brady who doesn't have the arm strength or the pedigree of a top QB, but made good decisions, could read the coverage and hit the open man, and didn't turn the ball over.

I'm not saying by any means that Purdy is the next Tom Brady, but I see a lot of similarities. A lot of people are knocking him for always having WRs open, but there are a lot of other QBs in the NFL who have WRs open and don't recognize it and try to force the ball into tight windows in coverage. Purdy, IMHO, has top tier vision and decision making abilities. When he got his first opportunity I remember thinking to myself how much faster he gets rid of the ball than Jimmy G ever did.

I've never heard someone criticize Montana because he had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman. I've never heard someone criticize Peyton Manning because he had Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokely and Dallas Clark.

I'm not even a Niners fan, but I live in the bay area and end up watching most of their games. The kid is special and has that "it factor". I find myself rooting for him even though they are my own team's rivals because he is a likeable guy and I want him to silence all of these critics.

People can simultaneously think Purdy is a reasonable pick for MVP, *and* simultaneously be salty about it because they know that a non-quarterback basically has zero shot at it.

A running back or wide receiver can have a great and even amazing season but won’t even be considered over 4 to 5 other quarterback players who have objectively worse seasons. The guys like CMC this year or Cooper Kupp in 2021 will never even sniff the award.

You might as well just rename the damn thing “Most Valuable Quarterback Award” and be done with it.

 

[Dickies]

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

You must not have watched many games.

I'm glad you caught that

-I don't want to be labeled a Purdy hater because I think Purdy is good for this special Niners team that might have the best collection of talent on a roster since the Seahawks 10 years ago with Russ which is why i brought him up earlier.

-I thought Jimmy was holding the Niners back even though he was needed when he arrived there.

And FTR, I have CMC in just about every redraft league where I could get him, WRs went so early he sometimes fell to me between 3-5 one guy took Ekeler over him.
And because I'm biased and had a pretty good sized investment in CMC, I'd also vote for him ahead of Purdy.

-You can't overlook how different SF was with Lance vs Purdy or Jimmy G vs Purdy, think Purdy has won both of those

I feel like we had this conversation when Brady took over for Bledsoe. Bledsoe was a #1 pick, had a proven track record of being a successful QB, and in comes Brady who doesn't have the arm strength or the pedigree of a top QB, but made good decisions, could read the coverage and hit the open man, and didn't turn the ball over.

I'm not saying by any means that Purdy is the next Tom Brady, but I see a lot of similarities. A lot of people are knocking him for always having WRs open, but there are a lot of other QBs in the NFL who have WRs open and don't recognize it and try to force the ball into tight windows in coverage. Purdy, IMHO, has top tier vision and decision making abilities. When he got his first opportunity I remember thinking to myself how much faster he gets rid of the ball than Jimmy G ever did.

I've never heard someone criticize Montana because he had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman. I've never heard someone criticize Peyton Manning because he had Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokely and Dallas Clark.

I'm not even a Niners fan, but I live in the bay area and end up watching most of their games. The kid is special and has that "it factor". I find myself rooting for him even though they are my own team's rivals because he is a likeable guy and I want him to silence all of these critics.

People can simultaneously think Purdy is a reasonable pick for MVP, *and* simultaneously be salty about it because they know that a non-quarterback basically has zero shot at it.

A running back or wide receiver can have a great and even amazing season but won’t even be considered over 4 to 5 other quarterback players who have objectively worse seasons. The guys like CMC this year or Cooper Kupp in 2021 will never even sniff the award.

You might as well just rename the damn thing “Most Valuable Quarterback Award” and be done with it.

I agree with you. If I were voting I would probably vote CMC, Tyreek, and then Purdy. In that order. The MVP is basically just the best QB on one of the best teams.

 

[Deamon]

Tyreek's injury might cost him. CMC is I think the best player in football.

All of that is irrelevant though.

Speaking of irrelevant, I do think as of NOW, Purdy has proved enough to give him the MVP (based on how the voters vote). He has the numbers and the team record. Dak, Lamar, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, all still have an outside shot if they put up some crazy numbers and propel their team to the best record in the NFL.

 

[FairWarning]

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

You must not have watched many games.

I'm glad you caught that

-I don't want to be labeled a Purdy hater because I think Purdy is good for this special Niners team that might have the best collection of talent on a roster since the Seahawks 10 years ago with Russ which is why i brought him up earlier.

-I thought Jimmy was holding the Niners back even though he was needed when he arrived there.

And FTR, I have CMC in just about every redraft league where I could get him, WRs went so early he sometimes fell to me between 3-5 one guy took Ekeler over him.
And because I'm biased and had a pretty good sized investment in CMC, I'd also vote for him ahead of Purdy.

-You can't overlook how different SF was with Lance vs Purdy or Jimmy G vs Purdy, think Purdy has won both of those

I feel like we had this conversation when Brady took over for Bledsoe. Bledsoe was a #1 pick, had a proven track record of being a successful QB, and in comes Brady who doesn't have the arm strength or the pedigree of a top QB, but made good decisions, could read the coverage and hit the open man, and didn't turn the ball over.

I'm not saying by any means that Purdy is the next Tom Brady, but I see a lot of similarities. A lot of people are knocking him for always having WRs open, but there are a lot of other QBs in the NFL who have WRs open and don't recognize it and try to force the ball into tight windows in coverage. Purdy, IMHO, has top tier vision and decision making abilities. When he got his first opportunity I remember thinking to myself how much faster he gets rid of the ball than Jimmy G ever did.

I've never heard someone criticize Montana because he had Jerry Rice, Roger Craig, John Taylor, Brent Jones and Tom Rathman. I've never heard someone criticize Peyton Manning because he had Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokely and Dallas Clark.

I'm not even a Niners fan, but I live in the bay area and end up watching most of their games. The kid is special and has that "it factor". I find myself rooting for him even though they are my own team's rivals because he is a likeable guy and I want him to silence all of these critics.

People fall in love with the qb who can do it all physically, while discounting the qb with elite decision-making.

 

[FairWarning]

Tyreek's injury might cost him. CMC is I think the best player in football.

All of that is irrelevant though.

Speaking of irrelevant, I do think as of NOW, Purdy has proved enough to give him the MVP (based on how the voters vote). He has the numbers and the team record. Dak, Lamar, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, all still have an outside shot if they put up some crazy numbers and propel their team to the best record in the NFL.

Lamar can still win it with a big game in SF this week.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Purdy's only putting up all-time great QB numbers because he has the good fortune to play with CMC. It's the same reason all those QBs in Carolina were crushing the league in passing stats and winning MVP awards the prior five years.

 

[FarFromHome]

Tyreek's injury might cost him. CMC is I think the best player in football.

All of that is irrelevant though.

Speaking of irrelevant, I do think as of NOW, Purdy has proved enough to give him the MVP (based on how the voters vote). He has the numbers and the team record. Dak, Lamar, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, all still have an outside shot if they put up some crazy numbers and propel their team to the best record in the NFL.

Solid take.

 

[ChiefD]

I’m liking Mahomes this year. To have them 9-5 with receivers no better than us guys in this forum is a miracle.

 

[Soulfly3]

Purdy's only putting up all-time great QB numbers because he has the good fortune to play with CMC. It's the same reason all those QBs in Carolina were crushing the league in passing stats and winning MVP awards the prior five years.

Including this season, the Niners have had seasons of 13, 6, 10, 13 and either 11/12/13 wins this season, in the past 5yrs.
Again, you're acting like any of are saying Purdy sucks. We all, as far as I can tell, think he's good to very good. Just not the MVP.

Why is saying he's not the MVP so touchy for so many? It's honestly strange.

 

[jobarules]

I’m liking Mahomes this year. To have them 9-5 with receivers no better than us guys in this forum is a miracle.

Their defense is great, Travis Kelce is a Hall of Famer, and Rice is starting to look legit. This take that he has no receivers doesnt play well with me anymore. Sure, the guys after those two are MISERABLE and it took Rice awhile to get going but there are teams with worse receivers than him.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

CMC has 7 receiving TDs and Purdy has 29 TD passes. So maybe you should edit it again.

c'mon man.. it's a FF forum, you know full well I'm not being literal.

It took me years to finally learn to take a little off my fastball in regards to hyperbole when posting here. Most A lot of guys here take everything a lot of what you say at face value.

 

[Boston]

Tyreek's injury might cost him. CMC is I think the best player in football.

All of that is irrelevant though.

Speaking of irrelevant, I do think as of NOW, Purdy has proved enough to give him the MVP (based on how the voters vote). He has the numbers and the team record. Dak, Lamar, Hurts, Allen, Mahomes, all still have an outside shot if they put up some crazy numbers and propel their team to the best record in the NFL.

Lamar can still win it with a big game in SF this week.

Monster game for the MVP race...Christmas night between the two potential #1 seeds...all eyes will be on this game and it gives Purdy, Cmac and especially Lamar a chance to make a statement...if Lamar can go into San Fran and be the main reason for a Baltimore win, I think he goes right to the top of the MVP list.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Purdy's only putting up all-time great QB numbers because he has the good fortune to play with CMC. It's the same reason all those QBs in Carolina were crushing the league in passing stats and winning MVP awards the prior five years.

Including this season, the Niners have had seasons of 13, 6, 10, 13 and either 11/12/13 wins this season, in the past 5yrs.
Again, you're acting like any of are saying Purdy sucks. We all, as far as I can tell, think he's good to very good. Just not the MVP.

Why is saying he's not the MVP so touchy for so many? It's honestly strange.

Not touchy at all. It's fine if you don't think he's the most valuable player in the league. I don't either.* I do think he'll win the MVP award, which is something different.

It's just weird how many different reasons people look for to argue that Purdy isn't playing amazing football this year. Sure it helps that he's got good players on his team, just like it helped pretty much every other QB who ever put up elite numbers in a season. Would Purdy be as good on a different team? Probably not. Would other QBs be playing as well as Purdy is if they were on SF? Maybe. Joe Montana probably wouldn't have won four Super Bowls without Jerry Rice, too. It is what it is. If you took the best RB in the NFL off of the 49ers they'd be worse than they are now. So what? He is there. You play with the cards you're dealt.

The MVP award is effectively a "best QB" award and Brock Purdy is performing as a top QB in the league this year.

* Edit: on further reflection, he's quarterbacking the consensus best team in football and getting paid peanuts relative to his peers... you could probably make a stronger case for him actually being the most valuable player than you could've for most other players who have ever won it.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

On FanDuel Sportsbook right now you can get +150 on the field vs. Brock Purdy for MVP award. If you don't think he's going to win, that's great value.

 

[Soulfly3]

On FanDuel Sportsbook right now you can get +150 on the field vs. Brock Purdy for MVP award. If you don't think he's going to win, that's great value.

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

 

[-OZ-]

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

it’s a QB league.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

 

[FarFromHome]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

It's a case study on the fact that football is always gonna football. Ha ha

 

[jobarules]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

Exactly

He changed his argument so many times with me he forgot what he was even arguing

 

[BassNBrew]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

Exactly

He changed his argument so many times with me he forgot what he was even arguing

I thought he was arguing Josh Gordon for MVP.

 

[cdclopper]

Lamar might be able to win the MVP again, but probably it's Purdy. It should be Tyreek.

 

[Soulfly3]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

Exactly

He changed his argument so many times with me he forgot what he was even arguing

I didn't change anything... I'm more impressed with Jimy's numbers considering his cast than I am with Purdy's numbers with his cast.

That said, and like I've said many times in here, I still consider Purdy a better and smarter QB.

My ENTIRE argument is thta Purdy's numbers aren't MVP worthy. and No QBs really are.

 

[FairWarning]

On FanDuel Sportsbook right now you can get +150 on the field vs. Brock Purdy for MVP award. If you don't think he's going to win, that's great value.

I got +200 last week. The bad thing is he was +1800 three weeks ago.

if one likes Balt this week to win, may want to play Lamar +400 to win MVP, highly correlated to winning this game.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

My ENTIRE argument is thta Purdy's numbers aren't MVP worthy. and No QBs really are.

You've already conceded that the MVP award is effectively a QB award. We all agree that if it was truly a recognition of the most valuable player in the NFL, some non-QB would be usually be most deserving. But that's not how it works, and some QB is probably going to win the award. Given that Purdy is leading the league in a ton of metrics (some of which are not just the best this year but historically elite), it can only be trolling at this point to say his numbers aren't MVP-worthy.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

On FanDuel Sportsbook right now you can get +150 on the field vs. Brock Purdy for MVP award. If you don't think he's going to win, that's great value.

I got +200 last week. The bad thing is he was +1800 three weeks ago.

You may have misunderstood what I posted. Purdy is the odds on favorite now. You can get +150 on "anyone other than Brock Purdy" now.

If you got +200 on Purdy last week you could theoretically just lock in a profit now by betting plus money against him (though I wouldn't recommend it).

 

[Soulfly3]

My ENTIRE argument is thta Purdy's numbers aren't MVP worthy. and No QBs really are.

it can only be trolling at this point to say his numbers aren't MVP-worthy.

it's not trolling, because i refuse to cede to the fact that it's NOT actually an MVP award, it's a best performing QB award.

 

[jobarules]

It's kind of funny how the position in this thread has evolved from this

Nah.... Miss me with this Purdy BS.... I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy. Just simple facts

to this

MVP means something special. Purdy's numbers are not special. With the offense and defense and coaching of that team, I don't see special. I see very good.

to this

Again, he's a top 3/4 qb for me this season... But he's not more valuable than Goff or even Stroud was for their teams, imo.

to this

There's an extremely good chance he wins it, unless Lamar beats him this week.

But again, because it's basically a QB award.

So first he was so bad that he was half as impressive as Jimmy Garoppolo, then he was very good but not special, then he was a top 3/4 QB, now he's extremely likely to win the MVP award. At this rate you'll be putting him in Canton by tomorrow morning. Welcome aboard!

Exactly

He changed his argument so many times with me he forgot what he was even arguing

I didn't change anything... I'm more impressed with Jimy's numbers considering his cast than I am with Purdy's numbers with his cast.

That said, and like I've said many times in here, I still consider Purdy a better and smarter QB.

My ENTIRE argument is thta Purdy's numbers aren't MVP worthy. and No QBs really are.

Meh you didnt really say that but Im moving on at this point

I was twice as impressed with Jimmy as I am Purdy.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

My ENTIRE argument is thta Purdy's numbers aren't MVP worthy. and No QBs really are.

it can only be trolling at this point to say his numbers aren't MVP-worthy.

it's not trolling, because i refuse to cede to the fact that it's NOT actually an MVP award, it's a best performing QB award.

Your argument has changed so many times it's worrying to think you might not be trolling at this point.

 

[FairWarning]

On FanDuel Sportsbook right now you can get +150 on the field vs. Brock Purdy for MVP award. If you don't think he's going to win, that's great value.

I got +200 last week. The bad thing is he was +1800 three weeks ago.

You may have misunderstood what I posted. Purdy is the odds on favorite now. You can get +150 on "anyone other than Brock Purdy" now.

If you got +200 on Purdy last week you could theoretically just lock in a profit now by betting plus money against him (though I wouldn't recommend it).

I did misunderstand, 3 am posting does that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Purdy's MVP chances might be going up in smoke, even if they win tonight. 3 INTs in the first half, which the media, who is looking to give to anyone else, will hammer that point.

It's starting to really feel like it's a year where a QB shouldn't get it (none really stands out at this point as having an MVP season), but not sure the voters will have the balls to give it to C-Mac or Tyreek.

 

[crushedspirit]

MVP 3 INTs in one half? No

CMC deserves it

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Either Lamar or CMC after tonight

 

[jon_mx]

Lamar just put a bow on it.

 

[Ilov80s]

Either Lamar or CMC after tonight

Funny how the 49ers getting blown out on a primetime game makes one of their players, who is playing in the game, rise in the MVP odds....but I get it

 

[Ilov80s]

I am not sure who it is but this seems like the year for an OL or defensive player to win

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Either Lamar or CMC after tonight

Funny how the 49ers getting blown out on a primetime game makes one of their players, who is playing in the game, rise in the MVP odds....but I get it

Yeah, no doubt an oddity

 

[jobarules]

I don't see LJax winning with his stats.

I think CMC should be MVP

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't see LJax winning with his stats.

I think CMC should be MVP

Lamar is an odd one. Stats aren't that great but then you see how good this team is and you look at the weapons around him. It's a backup TE, back up RB, a bunch of questionable WRs, etc. He is carrying this team.

 

[jobarules]

I don't see LJax winning with his stats.

I think CMC should be MVP

Lamar is an odd one. Stats aren't that great but then you see how good this team is and you look at the weapons around him. It's a backup TE, back up RB, a bunch of questionable WRs, etc. He is carrying this team.

Agreed with this plus their defense is phenomenal

 

[-OZ-]

Either Lamar or CMC after tonight

Brock lost it tonight. LJax deserves it.
Which is probably unique for a player the year after he signs a sweet deal.

 

[Ilov80s]

Either Lamar or CMC after tonight

Brock lost it tonight. LJax deserves it.
Which is probably unique for a player the year after he signs a sweet deal.

But given how this year has gone, Lamar probably turns the ball over 4 times next week in a bad loss

 

[The Gator]

#RIPurdy

 

[Insein]

No one wants it.

 

[jm192]

Hurts?

He's currently at 3600 passing yards and 20 TD's. He'll likelye finish with 4,000 passing yards and probably 24-25 TD's. They're in the race for the 1st overall seed in the NFC, and they may overtake SF if Purdy misses time.

He also has 576 Rushing yards and FIFTEEN rushing TD's. I love CMC. I think he's very deserving. But as nuts as 20 TD's from a RB is--the QB going for 15 rushing TD's is also pretty bananas.

 

[Insein]

Hurts?

He's currently at 3600 passing yards and 20 TD's. He'll likelye finish with 4,000 passing yards and probably 24-25 TD's. They're in the race for the 1st overall seed in the NFC, and they may overtake SF if Purdy misses time.

He also has 576 Rushing yards and FIFTEEN rushing TD's. I love CMC. I think he's very deserving. But as nuts as 20 TD's from a RB is--the QB going for 15 rushing TD's is also pretty bananas.

If you've watched hurts the last 4 games, you'll know he's out of the question. I'd say just give it to CMC.

 

[jobarules]

Hurts?

He's currently at 3600 passing yards and 20 TD's. He'll likelye finish with 4,000 passing yards and probably 24-25 TD's. They're in the race for the 1st overall seed in the NFC, and they may overtake SF if Purdy misses time.

He also has 576 Rushing yards and FIFTEEN rushing TD's. I love CMC. I think he's very deserving. But as nuts as 20 TD's from a RB is--the QB going for 15 rushing TD's is also pretty bananas.

All his rush TDs are tush pushes. Get outta here with this

 

[GroveDiesel]

Hurts?

He's currently at 3600 passing yards and 20 TD's. He'll likelye finish with 4,000 passing yards and probably 24-25 TD's. They're in the race for the 1st overall seed in the NFC, and they may overtake SF if Purdy misses time.

He also has 576 Rushing yards and FIFTEEN rushing TD's. I love CMC. I think he's very deserving. But as nuts as 20 TD's from a RB is--the QB going for 15 rushing TD's is also pretty bananas.

Josh Allen and Hurts are almost dead even in passing+rushing yards. Allen has 5 more total TDs (7 more passing, 2 less rushing). Allen has taken 14 less sacks and fumbled the ball 2 less times. Hurts has 2 less INTs. Allen has a higher completion percentage, higher QB rating and higher QBR.

What’s wild about Allen leading the league in INTs, is that he actually ranks amongst the lowest for QBs in what PFF deems “turnover worthy plays.” He’s just had awful luck with balls bouncing weird ways, defenders making incredible plays, and basically just never getting away with mistakes that other guys are getting away with.