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Clearly I'm late starting a 2023 team thread, but better late than never.
Here is link to the 2022 thread - 2022 Thread
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lot of money for him + whatever draft capital. kind of telling that he hasn't been traded yet. cardinals either asking too much or something else is there that teams know about that we don't.Really boring off-season so far. Was hoping to make a splash at WR position. Resigning Shep, Slayton, Hodgins is not the answer. Oh, bringing in Paris Campbell, Crowder, and Smith is ridiculous as well. None of those dudes are ever going to be a legit #1. Really need to trade for Hopkins. He still has couple of solid seasons left in him. He was catching everything from 3rd and 4th string QBs at the end of last season in Arizona.
I'm not sure not paying your best asset and overpaying a mediocre one is something to give a GM credit for, but hey Schoen operates differently.![]()
In Saquon Barkley negotiations, Giants are operating with logic and sense -- not misplaced emotion
The Saquon Barkley contract is a business decision in a business situation. Giants GM Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll deserve an awful lot of credit for operating as such.sports.yahoo.com
"PHOENIX — It’s a business decision in a business situation. Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll deserve an awful lot of credit for operating as such.
There was a contract offer on the table with a Giants letterhead for Saquon Barkley to sign during the bye week that would have paid him $12.5 million annually. There was another, for a smidge more, pushed across after the season ended.
Barkley turned down both. And now, the table is bare.
Good......"
While I agree that Barkley is our best offensive player and I am always in favor of the players getting as much money as they can. I’m not so sure I can fault the Giants here.I'm not sure not paying your best asset and overpaying a mediocre one is something to give a GM credit for, but hey Schoen operates differently.![]()
In Saquon Barkley negotiations, Giants are operating with logic and sense -- not misplaced emotion
The Saquon Barkley contract is a business decision in a business situation. Giants GM Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll deserve an awful lot of credit for operating as such.sports.yahoo.com
"PHOENIX — It’s a business decision in a business situation. Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll deserve an awful lot of credit for operating as such.
There was a contract offer on the table with a Giants letterhead for Saquon Barkley to sign during the bye week that would have paid him $12.5 million annually. There was another, for a smidge more, pushed across after the season ended.
Barkley turned down both. And now, the table is bare.
Good......"
Darren Waller is a #1 when healthy ... this is a huge upside moveReally boring off-season so far. Was hoping to make a splash at WR position. Resigning Shep, Slayton, Hodgins is not the answer. Oh, bringing in Paris Campbell, Crowder, and Smith is ridiculous as well. None of those dudes are ever going to be a legit #1. Really need to trade for Hopkins. He still has couple of solid seasons left in him. He was catching everything from 3rd and 4th string QBs at the end of last season in Arizona.
Serious question ... Who are the Seperators/Speed guys that Daniel Jones has been throwing to?I'm in the camp that Hopkins would help in the fact he's durable and has an immense catch radius, but he wouldn't work well with Jones; Daniel Jones needs separators/speed guys because he can't throw into tight windows aka "throw people open" due to lack of touch/anticipation. Nuk's declining speed would eventually make him a secondary piece for Jones.
That's funny ... Daniel "March Of" Jones??I heard Danny's middle name is March Of
Neal did play RT for Alabama; he just didn’t do it his last year there.Patricia Traina did a nice interviewe with Willie Anderson who has been working with Neal.
Sound s like the biggest thing to take into account is the fact that Neal played LT his entire Bama career so that is a huge adjustment that has been kind of minimized.
Me personally ... I would never draft a LT in the 1st rd to play RT or vice versa unless that they had dominant experience on both sides. I'd rather see Neal convert to LG and play to the side that he is most comfortable. Could you imagine how strong Neal and Thomas would be side by side
Giants RT Evan Neal Looks to Take Big Step in Second Season
Really? Willie made it sound like he has been playing LT for the last 4 seasonsNeal did play RT for Alabama; he just didn’t do it his last year there.Patricia Traina did a nice interviewe with Willie Anderson who has been working with Neal.
Sound s like the biggest thing to take into account is the fact that Neal played LT his entire Bama career so that is a huge adjustment that has been kind of minimized.
Me personally ... I would never draft a LT in the 1st rd to play RT or vice versa unless that they had dominant experience on both sides. I'd rather see Neal convert to LG and play to the side that he is most comfortable. Could you imagine how strong Neal and Thomas would be side by side
Giants RT Evan Neal Looks to Take Big Step in Second Season
I hope that his poor performance last season was because of changing sides.
https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster/evan-neal/7283Really? Willie made it sound like he has been playing LT for the last 4 seasonsNeal did play RT for Alabama; he just didn’t do it his last year there.Patricia Traina did a nice interviewe with Willie Anderson who has been working with Neal.
Sound s like the biggest thing to take into account is the fact that Neal played LT his entire Bama career so that is a huge adjustment that has been kind of minimized.
Me personally ... I would never draft a LT in the 1st rd to play RT or vice versa unless that they had dominant experience on both sides. I'd rather see Neal convert to LG and play to the side that he is most comfortable. Could you imagine how strong Neal and Thomas would be side by side
Giants RT Evan Neal Looks to Take Big Step in Second Season
I hope that his poor performance last season was because of changing sides.
Now I'm more worried
he played LG in 2019, RT in 2020, and LT in 2021. not worried.Really? Willie made it sound like he has been playing LT for the last 4 seasonsNeal did play RT for Alabama; he just didn’t do it his last year there.Patricia Traina did a nice interviewe with Willie Anderson who has been working with Neal.
Sound s like the biggest thing to take into account is the fact that Neal played LT his entire Bama career so that is a huge adjustment that has been kind of minimized.
Me personally ... I would never draft a LT in the 1st rd to play RT or vice versa unless that they had dominant experience on both sides. I'd rather see Neal convert to LG and play to the side that he is most comfortable. Could you imagine how strong Neal and Thomas would be side by side
Giants RT Evan Neal Looks to Take Big Step in Second Season
I hope that his poor performance last season was because of changing sides.
Now I'm more worried
guy tried to make a joke. fell flat.That's funny ... Daniel "March Of" Jones??I heard Danny's middle name is March Of
tough room.guy tried to make a joke. fell flat.That's funny ... Daniel "March Of" Jones??I heard Danny's middle name is March Of
This is some serious garbage reporting .. First off there is not a mention of a GM anywhere in that article so not sure where that came fromAnonymous GM says Giants screwed up signing Daniel Jones.
Who was going to pay him?
would like a pass rusher mixed in there.5 Rd Mock PFN - This would be Nice
- NYG 25. Brian Branch S Alabama
- NYG 57. Emmanuel ForbesCB Mississippi State
- NYG 89. Luke Wypler OC Ohio State
- NYG 128. Michael Wilson WR Stanford
- NYG 160. Roschon Johnson RB Texas
- NYG 172. Olusegun Oluwatimi OC Michigan
He will sign it, eventually. Players are learning that not signing the tag just means they get a nice summer vacation anymore than reporting to the daily grind on time.Barkley does not plan to sign franchise tender before OTA (next Monday)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/12/saquon-barkley-does-not-plan-to-sign-franchise-tender-per-report
The problem is, if he is not signed by the draft the Giants will have to pick his successor.He will sign it, eventually. Players are learning that not signing the tag just means they get a nice summer vacation anymore than reporting to the daily grind on time.Barkley does not plan to sign franchise tender before OTA (next Monday)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/12/saquon-barkley-does-not-plan-to-sign-franchise-tender-per-report
Then a team getting him in a trade would be getting a very good deal b/c everyone knows what the deal is and teams aren't going to offer a really good draft pick package for a guy that everyone knows won't be on the team and also wants a contract.The problem is, if he is not signed by the draft the Giants will have to pick his successor.He will sign it, eventually. Players are learning that not signing the tag just means they get a nice summer vacation anymore than reporting to the daily grind on time.Barkley does not plan to sign franchise tender before OTA (next Monday)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/12/saquon-barkley-does-not-plan-to-sign-franchise-tender-per-report
What do you do if he is not signed and Bijan Robinson drops to 25 ??? I'd be tempted as hell to take him there.
Robinson is younger and better than Saquan at this point and is going to be a much much cheaper option for the next 5 years
Yep ... Barkley's putting them in a bad situation but they have to have a plan B in case he decides to hold outThen a team getting him in a trade would be getting a very good deal b/c everyone knows what the deal is and teams aren't going to offer a really good draft pick package for a guy that everyone knows won't be on the team and also wants a contract.The problem is, if he is not signed by the draft the Giants will have to pick his successor.He will sign it, eventually. Players are learning that not signing the tag just means they get a nice summer vacation anymore than reporting to the daily grind on time.Barkley does not plan to sign franchise tender before OTA (next Monday)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/12/saquon-barkley-does-not-plan-to-sign-franchise-tender-per-report
What do you do if he is not signed and Bijan Robinson drops to 25 ??? I'd be tempted as hell to take him there.
Robinson is younger and better than Saquan at this point and is going to be a much much cheaper option for the next 5 years
Well it's voluntary so I get that ... once it's not he can be fined. Saquan on the other hand is not under contract until he signs so they have no control over thatBig Dex also not showing up to the voluntary camp, due to his contract situation.
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1646295357456801797?s=20
I don't see Lawrence playing on that 5th year option. I'm sure he is going to want something similar to what Jeffery Simmons got with Tennessee (4 years 94M). I think Payne down in Washington got something in that range this off season too.Well it's voluntary so I get that ... once it's not he can be fined. Saquan on the other hand is not under contract until he signs so they have no control over thatBig Dex also not showing up to the voluntary camp, due to his contract situation.
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1646295357456801797?s=20
This is a sharp front office,there is certainly a Plan B,C,D,etc. Trust the process,it'll work out. As an aside I don't think Robinson drops to 25.This is a big wrench in NY's plan, no?
I don't either, but if he did and Saquan is not signed ... hmmm?This is a sharp front office,there is certainly a Plan B,C,D,etc. Trust the process,it'll work out. As an aside I don't think Robinson drops to 25.This is a big wrench in NY's plan, no?
Also breaking news: Water found out to really be wet.Anonymous GM says Giants screwed up signing Daniel Jones.
Who was going to pay him?
He's a very good safety and you'd want to sign him before he gets out on the open market.McKinney says his hand is good to go
https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/4/...y-xavier-mckinney-says-his-hand-is-good-to-go
McKinney is in his last year, I wonder if the Giants are going to extend him.
The Giants and Schoen are going to have to get creative because they have a few young guys who are very good that they are going to have to pay.He's a very good safety and you'd want to sign him before he gets out on the open market.McKinney says his hand is good to go
https://www.bigblueview.com/2023/4/...y-xavier-mckinney-says-his-hand-is-good-to-go
McKinney is in his last year, I wonder if the Giants are going to extend him.
... so probably not.
I'm a little surprised, I thought he got hurt fairly late in the season. November if I recall correctly.I don't understand why that's so suprising. The word was that barring a setback, he should be ready for Week 1, meaning he'd probably be ok to go sometime during Training Camp.
Week 11 vs Det ... Nov 20 so yeah it is a quick recovery even by today's standards on ACL recoveryI'm a little surprised, I thought he got hurt fairly late in the season. November if I recall correctly.I don't understand why that's so suprising. The word was that barring a setback, he should be ready for Week 1, meaning he'd probably be ok to go sometime during Training Camp.
This is some serious garbage reporting .. First off there is not a mention of a GM anywhere in that article so not sure where that came fromAnonymous GM says Giants screwed up signing Daniel Jones.
Who was going to pay him?
A) What is an NFL exec ? There are a whole lot of different executive positions and departments in an NFL organization in charge of lots of things unrelated to football (Cleaning, Cooking, Security, Parking, Facilities etc .. ) At least Tell us what this NFL exec or execs are responsible for
B) Any NFL Exec that has Football Operations / Front Office responsibilities that doesnt have the balls to to stand behind their comments doesnt have an ounce of credibilty