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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. This team stinks (7 Viewers)
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steelers1080
Footballguy
Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you'll do it, aka, why people call him cheap.
He spends on players, but usually won't give guarantees. We have the smallest coaching staff in the NFL. Our facilities were rated really poorly by players. Etc.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Browns are not an expansion team any longer.
Kenny isn't good, the OC isn't good, but Tomlin was right, Browns have a good defense and make a lot of offenses look bad.
Fans think team-centric until they get beat over the head with the truth and the truth is that it isn't always just the Steelers.
Give the Browns defense credit.
Kenny isn't good, the OC isn't good, but Tomlin was right, Browns have a good defense and make a lot of offenses look bad.
Fans think team-centric until they get beat over the head with the truth and the truth is that it isn't always just the Steelers.
Give the Browns defense credit.
Can we do a Go Fund Me to pay Maryland back?
Yes but Canada gave Tomlins kid a scholarship to play at Maryland and I believe that was his only D1 offer.
You can’t get rid of Canada!!!!!
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Browns defense is elite but we're in here to vent today. Far worse defenses have made the Steelers offense look pathetic.
steelers1080
Footballguy
- Browns - 106 yards passing
- Packers - 126 yards passing
- Titans - 160 yards passing
- Jaguars - 73 yards passing
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
'Ran The Route I Was Suppose To:' Diontae Johnson Takes To Social Media To Refute Blame In Passing Game Miscommunications
The Pittsburgh Steelers’ offense sputtered throughout their Week Eleven game against the Cleveland Browns. Yes, the Browns have a great defense, but not all of the Steelers’ errors were forced. There were a number of curious passing plays where QB Kenny Pickett and his receivers seemed to be not...
steelersdepot.com
Kenny and Canada are losing the team
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
It wasn't the Browns at all. It's a solid defense, good players. But the offense the Steelers ran is more of the reason they sucked than anything the Browns did.
Tomlin's press conference coachspeak is only good for soundbites, but he generally says nothing and the coaching staff doesn't adjust anything either.... unless moving Canada to the sideline counts.
It's a bad offense with a bad QB and a bad OC. And we better get used to it, because Tomlin's ego and the Rooney family's wallet won't allow them to go out and hire someone who can own the offense like is necessary when you no longer have a first ballot HOF QB leading the unit.
Grid71
Footballguy
Give Browns D credit for being good... they may be good, but they got exposed on the ground. Steelers outgained the Browns on the ground 2-1 especially with #30 toting the rock. Ground game was there. That success should make life much easier on the OC & Pickett attacking the middle of the field through the air. Receivers were open and completely missed or ignored. Can't give the Browns much credit this week because Steelers self inflicted passing futility shows up every single week.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
This isn't just any defense.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
This same Browns team allowed the Colts to score 38 pts. Yes, they're good. So what? That doesn't negate many of the poor aspects of our offense.
"We expected them to play man, they played zone, we had 0 answers." That's basically what Kenny said after the game. Also, it wasn't the D that forced Kenny to stare down his 1st read over and over and over the last few weeks. We're having all the same issues we've had against every team, it just looked worse yesterday because the D is better.
belljr
Footballguy
I did hear (can't find the stat) that the Browns have the lowest yards against per game since the 08 Steelers did it at something 238 yds. I think Browns are currently 242 or something
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Najee must be a hater because some fans are content with the surface record and cheer about it weekly while ignoring the glaring reality of it all,
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
With this comment, DJ having to be picked up by Jones and moved away from coaches (and his comments) along with Pickens general frustrations, Kenny and Canada have lost the team and the narrative. We are the laughing stock of the league right now. Rooney made them pick Pickett when they didn’t have a first round grade. His cheapness has them keeping Canada. This is going the wrong way fast.
This is some bad stuff: https://twitter.com/search?q=pickett&src=typed_query
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Damn -- had DJ wide open on a crossing route for a TD, and he pulled the ball down and bailed. He is so scared to let it rip.
geneyus
Footballguy
This one had me scratching my head yesterday too.
Grid71
Footballguy
remember watching that real time and my wife said "the guys in orange must all be psychics" 
my take, KP immediately turned his head and stared at warren. defenders didn't hesitate to jump the dump off pass. KP was going there 100% before the ball was snapped. any idiot from their chairs could call a counter there. run the same play other side and tell kenny to immediately turn your head to the check down, hitch your shoulder like you are going to throw it then burn em deep down the middle or up the sideline. do that any number of plays. look off at the check down then throw it down field.
my take, KP immediately turned his head and stared at warren. defenders didn't hesitate to jump the dump off pass. KP was going there 100% before the ball was snapped. any idiot from their chairs could call a counter there. run the same play other side and tell kenny to immediately turn your head to the check down, hitch your shoulder like you are going to throw it then burn em deep down the middle or up the sideline. do that any number of plays. look off at the check down then throw it down field.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
All 3 Brown defenders running past those WRs like they didn't exist was hilarious to be honest. I couldn't control my laughter when that play happened in real time.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Kenny just went right to him. Didn't even notice Pickens 1-on-1 at the bottom. He needs to go. He is 25 -- this is who he is.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Mason, you are playing terrible this year. Whatever you're doing to "make these corrections" isn't working. Stop complaining about your teammates complaining, if anything they should be calling you out directly. Najee could have said "Yeah, it's tough to get positive yards when your center is being pushed into your lap as you get the ball." But instead he just voiced vague frustration.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I keep checking NFL news just hoping to see something substantive coming from the Steelers. No luck so far.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
It's obvious to anyone outside of the Steeler coaching staff that KP is completely broken and should not be starting at all. One of the major problems with fluke win after fluke win is that it hides the issues few want to discuss because the team is "winning". They haven't made changes because of this, but when the ref help and fluke runs out, there's nothing to mask the stink anymore.
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Gold Fox
Footballguy
I honestly believe that they would not have made that change if they somehow wound up winning that game yesterday.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Just for kicks, I watched a short highlight reel of Pickett from his last year at Pitt. In every single play in that highlight reel, he looked and went to his first read. I literally did not see him ever even look at a second read. The difference? Addison was open by 5 yards on every play and Pickett actually looked accurate (even on the deep ball).
3C's
Footballguy
No changes that I'm aware of. The Clarissa thing was related to her saying she just made things up if she didn't have a chance to talk to coaches.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Scouting report says that and bails into sacks. Whoops!
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Speaking of Addison - he has more TD receptions than Kenny has TD passes this year. As a rookie WR. I think it’s pretty clear what was going on at Pitt that last year.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Are we undefeated with creed Humphrey at center and dobbs at QB?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The same Browns team. You do know that there are 32 NFL teams who play 17 games a year which is 544 games a year and the stats I shared went back two decades, over 5,000 games SO WHAT about one game that you think makes all the difference.
Kenny isn't good and neither is the OC but the Browns D is special this year SO WHAT about a lame Kenny Pickett or his lame OC or one game. We knew about Kenny and the OC and even great defenses have a game or two off.
The Browns won't go deep into the playoffs with a 5th round rookie and a great defense and the Steelers won't do anything this year with Pickett and that OC.
Going forward, I don't think the Steelers can sit tight or wait to draft another JAG QB late in the first round and think they are OK. They should make a play for someone like a Kyler Murray who 'might' be available, but they won't.
3C's
Footballguy
No. They'd still have the same coaches.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am hearing reports that Matt Canada has been fired
Dizzy
Footballguy
Yes, just broke on Get Up.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Just came here to say “get ready” but it’s out!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers RB coach Eddie Faulkner is the new OC. Not sure if it is considered interim or permanent.
ETA: Apparently it was Rooney that fired MC
ETA: Apparently it was Rooney that fired MC
crushedspirit
Footballguy
One good step, but the offense won't change much in my opinion. He had to go though, long overdue.
belljr
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers fans have something to be thankful for this week
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Now they can at least evaluate KP and make an informed decision that he is terrible.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
They won't be able to make any major changes to playbook but specific play calling and personnel on the field could very likely be different. In any case as you say he had to go
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
They won't make an outside hire in the middle of the season, but I hope they go outside the organization to find a strong OC and give him full control of the offense after this season is over.
I don't have a lot of faith in Pickett at all, but hopefully someone else can develop him to at least see the wide open receivers he has from time to time and not lock onto his first target. But, that's just what he's been since college.
I don't have a lot of faith in Pickett at all, but hopefully someone else can develop him to at least see the wide open receivers he has from time to time and not lock onto his first target. But, that's just what he's been since college.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I think it matters to team morale. It is very clear that this offense was going nowhere under Matt Canada and the player knew it. Whether or not they can turn it around is a big question but it really couldn't get any worse.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Before Canada was forced out of the booth, there was talk of Josh McDaniels coming in as a consultant, similar to Flores. Will see if that happens now.
