2024 College Football Thread: Confused Georgia players attribute slow start to Kirby Smart begging them to take their feet off the gas (21 Viewers)

[bagger]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

 

[Capella]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

 

[General Malaise]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

The Cal schools LOVE LOVE LOVE the foreign students who fight to attend the public Cal schools and will pay whatever the cover charge is. The in-state kids who are extraordinary students get jobbed in this, which is why attendance numbers are booming for schools like Oregon who get these bright kids in return.

 

[Da Guru]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

 

[CletiusMaximus]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

I'll reiterate my "solution" which I didn't think we'd ever see in my lifetime -

The sports programs form private organizations, like "Alabama Football LLC" or "Duke Basketball, Inc." The LLC pays a license fee to the University for use of the school's name, logos, stadium, arena, etc. Students and alumni still get preferential ticket deals and the like. The coaches, players and staff are all employees of the LLC and have no role with the schools. Coaches are no longer state employees. Boosters are free to buy into the LLC or support them financially through normal, legal means. The NCAA's role will be to oversee club sports and intramural sports at universities, meaning its budget will be reduced by 90% or so. Students can play rec/club sports and professional athletes can be professional athletes. The sports LLCs will have to work things out with the professional leagues. For example, the NFL will probably no longer get to have a free developmental league by limiting draft eligibility and will have to join the NBA and MLB in developing contractual relationships with the farm league. There is established precedent for this type of club-based sports system - its called, "everywhere else in the world."

 

[bigbottom]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

I'll reiterate my "solution" which I didn't think we'd ever see in my lifetime -

The sports programs form private organizations, like "Alabama Football LLC" or "Duke Basketball, Inc." The LLC pays a license fee to the University for use of the school's name, logos, stadium, arena, etc. Students and alumni still get preferential ticket deals and the like. The coaches, players and staff are all employees of the LLC and have no role with the schools. Coaches are no longer state employees. Boosters are free to buy into the LLC or support them financially through normal, legal means. The NCAA's role will be to oversee club sports and intramural sports at universities, meaning its budget will be reduced by 90% or so. Students can play rec/club sports and professional athletes can be professional athletes. The sports LLCs will have to work things out with the professional leagues. For example, the NFL will probably no longer get to have a free developmental league by limiting draft eligibility and will have to join the NBA and MLB in developing contractual relationships with the farm league. There is established precedent for this type of club-based sports system - its called, "everywhere else in the world."

Won’t this lead to the elimination of many, if not most, sports programs at many, if not most, schools?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

I'll reiterate my "solution" which I didn't think we'd ever see in my lifetime -

The sports programs form private organizations, like "Alabama Football LLC" or "Duke Basketball, Inc." The LLC pays a license fee to the University for use of the school's name, logos, stadium, arena, etc. Students and alumni still get preferential ticket deals and the like. The coaches, players and staff are all employees of the LLC and have no role with the schools. Coaches are no longer state employees. Boosters are free to buy into the LLC or support them financially through normal, legal means. The NCAA's role will be to oversee club sports and intramural sports at universities, meaning its budget will be reduced by 90% or so. Students can play rec/club sports and professional athletes can be professional athletes. The sports LLCs will have to work things out with the professional leagues. For example, the NFL will probably no longer get to have a free developmental league by limiting draft eligibility and will have to join the NBA and MLB in developing contractual relationships with the farm league. There is established precedent for this type of club-based sports system - its called, "everywhere else in the world."

Won’t this lead to the elimination of many, if not most, sports programs at many, if not most, schools?

I wouldn't say "elimination" as student-athletes can still play sports. I played rugby throughout undergrad and law school and we had a full Big Ten season with a conference and national tournament every year. My son plays intramural soccer, volleyball and basketball and is in the swim club and weightlifting club at a Big Ten school.

But I'm sure there are a ton of holes in my proposal - its not very well thought out. I just think everything with college sports would be better if we eliminated the NCAA's current role entirely. They take millions from the system and have never concerned themselves with serving student-athletes. I would also like to see the complete elimination of high school sports, replaced with local club sports. Most of the problems we have with college and high school sports are caused by trying to graft athletic programs onto our educational institutions. There's no reason for it.

 

[nirad3]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

The Cal schools LOVE LOVE LOVE the foreign students who fight to attend the public Cal schools and will pay whatever the cover charge is. The in-state kids who are extraordinary students get jobbed in this, which is why attendance numbers are booming for schools like Oregon who get these bright kids in return.

This is deviating from the topic for the most part, but yeah... there's like ZERO chance of 99% of California HS students to get into UCs right now. It's even becoming increasingly difficult for top HS students to even get into Cal State schools. Schools we used to make fun of when I was at UCSB. UCSB would not even look at kids that have my GPA, etc., these days.

Unless my kids have some kind of epiphany I can't see them going to college in-state. I could see my daughter getting a volleyball scholarship to a D-2 school somewhere in the western states, though.

 

[Yo Mama]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

The Cal schools LOVE LOVE LOVE the foreign students who fight to attend the public Cal schools and will pay whatever the cover charge is. The in-state kids who are extraordinary students get jobbed in this, which is why attendance numbers are booming for schools like Oregon who get these bright kids in return.

This is deviating from the topic for the most part, but yeah... there's like ZERO chance of 99% of California HS students to get into UCs right now. It's even becoming increasingly difficult for top HS students to even get into Cal State schools. Schools we used to make fun of when I was at UCSB. UCSB would not even look at kids that have my GPA, etc., these days.

Unless my kids have some kind of epiphany I can't see them going to college in-state. I could see my daughter getting a volleyball scholarship to a D-2 school somewhere in the western states, though.

Yeah my daughter got accepted to two Ivy League schools and UM (among others - look at her) but was only able to get on the wait lists for the UCs she applied to (SB, SD, LA, Berkeley). Lots of her friends, including valedictorians, thought they were going to be safety schools and only applied in-state but didn’t get into any.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

I'll reiterate my "solution" which I didn't think we'd ever see in my lifetime -

The sports programs form private organizations, like "Alabama Football LLC" or "Duke Basketball, Inc." The LLC pays a license fee to the University for use of the school's name, logos, stadium, arena, etc. Students and alumni still get preferential ticket deals and the like. The coaches, players and staff are all employees of the LLC and have no role with the schools. Coaches are no longer state employees. Boosters are free to buy into the LLC or support them financially through normal, legal means. The NCAA's role will be to oversee club sports and intramural sports at universities, meaning its budget will be reduced by 90% or so. Students can play rec/club sports and professional athletes can be professional athletes. The sports LLCs will have to work things out with the professional leagues. For example, the NFL will probably no longer get to have a free developmental league by limiting draft eligibility and will have to join the NBA and MLB in developing contractual relationships with the farm league. There is established precedent for this type of club-based sports system - its called, "everywhere else in the world."

Won’t this lead to the elimination of many, if not most, sports programs at many, if not most, schools?

I wouldn't say "elimination" as student-athletes can still play sports. I played rugby throughout undergrad and law school and we had a full Big Ten season with a conference and national tournament every year. My son plays intramural soccer, volleyball and basketball and is in the swim club and weightlifting club at a Big Ten school.

But I'm sure there are a ton of holes in my proposal - its not very well thought out. I just think everything with college sports would be better if we eliminated the NCAA's current role entirely. They take millions from the system and have never concerned themselves with serving student-athletes. I would also like to see the complete elimination of high school sports, replaced with local club sports. Most of the problems we have with college and high school sports are caused by trying to graft athletic programs onto our educational institutions. There's no reason for it.

Question:

How do university sports work in other countries? Is the set-up similar to what you're proposing above? Or are they not really a thing at all?

 

[Instinctive]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

The Cal schools LOVE LOVE LOVE the foreign students who fight to attend the public Cal schools and will pay whatever the cover charge is. The in-state kids who are extraordinary students get jobbed in this, which is why attendance numbers are booming for schools like Oregon who get these bright kids in return.

This is deviating from the topic for the most part, but yeah... there's like ZERO chance of 99% of California HS students to get into UCs right now. It's even becoming increasingly difficult for top HS students to even get into Cal State schools. Schools we used to make fun of when I was at UCSB. UCSB would not even look at kids that have my GPA, etc., these days.

Unless my kids have some kind of epiphany I can't see them going to college in-state. I could see my daughter getting a volleyball scholarship to a D-2 school somewhere in the western states, though.

Yeah my daughter got accepted to two Ivy League schools and UM (among others - look at her) but was only able to get on the wait lists for the UCs she applied to (SB, SD, LA, Berkeley). Lots of her friends, including valedictorians, thought they were going to be safety schools and only applied in-state but didn’t get into any.

One of the very few things Texas does right with schools. There's a top x% rule where if you graduate in the top x% of class, you are guaranteed admission to the in state public universities. It was 10% when I was in HS, I think it's down to 6% now.

 

[bigbottom]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

The Cal schools LOVE LOVE LOVE the foreign students who fight to attend the public Cal schools and will pay whatever the cover charge is. The in-state kids who are extraordinary students get jobbed in this, which is why attendance numbers are booming for schools like Oregon who get these bright kids in return.

This is deviating from the topic for the most part, but yeah... there's like ZERO chance of 99% of California HS students to get into UCs right now. It's even becoming increasingly difficult for top HS students to even get into Cal State schools. Schools we used to make fun of when I was at UCSB. UCSB would not even look at kids that have my GPA, etc., these days.

Unless my kids have some kind of epiphany I can't see them going to college in-state. I could see my daughter getting a volleyball scholarship to a D-2 school somewhere in the western states, though.

Yeah my daughter got accepted to two Ivy League schools and UM (among others - look at her) but was only able to get on the wait lists for the UCs she applied to (SB, SD, LA, Berkeley). Lots of her friends, including valedictorians, thought they were going to be safety schools and only applied in-state but didn’t get into any.

One of the very few things Texas does right with schools. There's a top x% rule where if you graduate in the top x% of class, you are guaranteed admission to the in state public universities. It was 10% when I was in HS, I think it's down to 6% now.

Yeah, UT is required to have 90% of its enrollment be Texas residents, with 75% being auto-admits. UT Austin is down to top 5% for auto admits (due to rising application numbers), while other UT branches are still at 10% I believe.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

To try to keep it somewhat fair they need a spending cap per year per team.

There are no caps on endorsements. Anywhere.

If a car dealership wants to pay Arch Manning, but only if he is at Texas, there is no rule coming down the pike to stop them.

There is no cap coming.

Right. The big teams will get bigger and the small teams will get smaller. Americans love capitalism and baby you’re about to see it play out.

For sure.

Soon some college teams could have payrolls matching the pros. If they are getting paid they are professionals. So why carry on with the "Student-Athlete" charade any longer? There is really no need to even make a player attend school. They can be paid employees at whatever university for a 1-4 year period. Fans would not care

I'll reiterate my "solution" which I didn't think we'd ever see in my lifetime -

The sports programs form private organizations, like "Alabama Football LLC" or "Duke Basketball, Inc." The LLC pays a license fee to the University for use of the school's name, logos, stadium, arena, etc. Students and alumni still get preferential ticket deals and the like. The coaches, players and staff are all employees of the LLC and have no role with the schools. Coaches are no longer state employees. Boosters are free to buy into the LLC or support them financially through normal, legal means. The NCAA's role will be to oversee club sports and intramural sports at universities, meaning its budget will be reduced by 90% or so. Students can play rec/club sports and professional athletes can be professional athletes. The sports LLCs will have to work things out with the professional leagues. For example, the NFL will probably no longer get to have a free developmental league by limiting draft eligibility and will have to join the NBA and MLB in developing contractual relationships with the farm league. There is established precedent for this type of club-based sports system - its called, "everywhere else in the world."

Won’t this lead to the elimination of many, if not most, sports programs at many, if not most, schools?

I wouldn't say "elimination" as student-athletes can still play sports. I played rugby throughout undergrad and law school and we had a full Big Ten season with a conference and national tournament every year. My son plays intramural soccer, volleyball and basketball and is in the swim club and weightlifting club at a Big Ten school.

But I'm sure there are a ton of holes in my proposal - its not very well thought out. I just think everything with college sports would be better if we eliminated the NCAA's current role entirely. They take millions from the system and have never concerned themselves with serving student-athletes. I would also like to see the complete elimination of high school sports, replaced with local club sports. Most of the problems we have with college and high school sports are caused by trying to graft athletic programs onto our educational institutions. There's no reason for it.

Question:

How do university sports work in other countries? Is the set-up similar to what you're proposing above? Or are they not really a thing at all?

School sports are more rec level, with some exhibition type tournaments where the schools might throw together a soccer or basketball team to rep the school in a one-off tournament. I played for a rugby club in Germany while I was a student. There was one time we were asked to put together a club to represent the university at a tournament, so we played for one weekend as the University of Bonn rugby team rather that the Bonn Rugby Club. We actually won that tournament over three days so I joke to this day about winning a national championship in college. But all good athletes will play for clubs, not schools. We are moving in this direction at the prep level for baseball, soccer and basketball, possibly others. The best young soccer players in the US are not playing for their high schools or universities anymore, similar to but not yet at the level as is done elsewhere in the world.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

MSU drives down to the Oregon 2 and fumbles the ball. Oregon takes that turnover and drives all the way back down to the MSU 1 and… Gabriel throws an INT. lol

 

[General Malaise]

Not a lot of people know this but it's true -

Oregon Ducks are 4-0.


Still not in love with Dillon Gabriel but I suppose he's "fine".

He's not fine. He sucks. Get rid of this turd. Jesus fn christ on a moped, what the Frick is this?

 

[shuke]

Not a lot of people know this but it's true -

Oregon Ducks are 4-0.


Still not in love with Dillon Gabriel but I suppose he's "fine".

He's not fine. He sucks. Get rid of this turd. Jesus fn christ on a moped, what the Frick is this?

Read this post.
Assume Oregon is getting upset big time.
Turn on TV.
Oregon up 21-0.

 

[psychobillies]

Not a lot of people know this but it's true -

Oregon Ducks are 4-0.


Still not in love with Dillon Gabriel but I suppose he's "fine".

He's not fine. He sucks. Get rid of this turd. Jesus fn christ on a moped, what the Frick is this?

Read this post.
Assume Oregon is getting upset big time.
Turn on TV.
Oregon up 21-0.

It seemed a little harsh to me too.

 

[scoobus]

Take that UNLV!

 

[Yo Mama]

Some amazing signs at the Cal gameday.

Woke vs Coke
DEI vs DUI
I only do lines of code
You guys are blocking the library

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Some amazing signs at the Cal gameday.

Woke vs Coke
DEI vs DUI
I only do lines of code
You guys are blocking the library

Miami Cites Wikipedia

 

[massraider]

Some amazing signs at the Cal gameday.

Woke vs Coke

I would wear this shirt (UM fan here)

 

[General Malaise]

Not a lot of people know this but it's true -

Oregon Ducks are 4-0.


Still not in love with Dillon Gabriel but I suppose he's "fine".

He's not fine. He sucks. Get rid of this turd. Jesus fn christ on a moped, what the Frick is this?

Read this post.
Assume Oregon is getting upset big time.
Turn on TV.
Oregon up 21-0.

It seemed a little harsh to me too.

DID YOU SEE HIS INTERECEPTIONS?!1!!111???

 

[Jayded]

My goodness Missouri is getting run over. They’re also making Conner Weigman look like a good QB.

 

[culdeus]

I know friends of my daughters who are now doctors that did not get in with a 4.0. Lot of out of state students at U-M.

So you're saying the in-state applicants aren't all that bright?

A lot of schools will prioritize out of state students for that extra dough.

This is not as big a thing as you think. At least in Texas you get in-state status after being enrolled for a year.

 

[Osaurus]

SMU/Louisville game is pretty awesome

 

[Jayded]

Grayson McCall took a brutal shot earlier. He already contemplated quitting football last year due to a head injury. Hopefully he’s ok but that also might be it for him.

 

[General Malaise]

Vandy up 13-0. Huh.

 

[hagmania]

I am in the stadium.

️

 

[Osaurus]

Go Commodores!

 

[TennesseeJed]

I am in the stadium.

️

I wish I had known. Almost went myself.


Daughter is there - her last words to me before heading to the game: “Don’t worry dad I am going with a bunch of engineering students, we all agreed to do homework after the game!”

 

[dickey moe]

Jeremiah Smith is... impressive.

 

[SoBeDad]

Jeremiah Smith is... impressive.

A combination of Cris Carter and Terrel Owens on one drive.

 

[hagmania]

We’ll always have the first half, lads.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Man, #22 for Bama should have been penalized

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Vandy already playing not to lose in the 2nd quarter is probably not going to end well.

 

[Major]

SMU/Louisville game is pretty awesome

Great game and happy for my Ponies. Fun seeing them atop the ACC in their first year. It's early but not something I thought would happen this soon.

 

[whoknew]

HOW ABOUT THEM COMMODORES?!?

Still a lot of time left.

 

[hagmania]

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Moneyline is even money in the Bama game now. I threw a 50 spot down on Bama as an emotional hedge. Either Bama loses or we're having Sushi for dinner tonight on them. Win/win.

 

[Jayded]

Wow. When this freshman WR class becomes NFL eligible, it’s certainly going to be an interesting top of that draft.

 

[Uncle Leo]

So impressed with these very young true freshman WR Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams. I mean it’s every week that they are putting on a show.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Go Vandy Go!

-Classic let down after beating Georgia last week
I thought Vandy would fold after Bama scored going into the Half and the opening drive
Went from 23-7 to 23-21 but Vandy has managed to answer back and driving again

Stunning to watch, fun as a casual fan

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Is number 5 on vandy wearing his pee wee football uniform?

 

[boilerdave]

The first team to become bowl eligible.....

The Indiana Hoosiers.

 

[hagmania]

You can take that sack to the FirstBank, brommodores

 

[TennesseeJed]

The first team to become bowl eligible.....

The Indiana Hoosiers.

Who stole a coach from JMU…

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Is number 5 on vandy wearing his pee wee football uniform?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Why on 2nd and 1 on the 6 yd line do you call timeout?
Because you're Vanderbilt
Dear Gawd you got Bama on the ropes, they're body language was terrible and you call timeout?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Why on 2nd and 1 on the 4 yd line do you call timeout?
Because you're Vanderbilt
Dear Gawd you got Bama on the ropes, they're body language was terrible and you call timeout?

Because that right there. Absolutely nailed the play call.

 

[Galileo]

Wow!