2024 College Football Thread: Local team chokes in playoff game at JerryWorld (7 Viewers)

[fasteddie_21]

As I said, last week's ranking is everything. The committee has said it won't punish teams for playing in a 'bonus' game.

So *****, moan, whine, complain, get your pitchforks...but what mattered was the rankings last week.

However, zOMG Alabama so who the **** knows.

But bottom line, if you're not in, you kinda got yourself to blame, regardless of anything, really.

 

[Insein]

Watching these announcers bloviate on. "I think they've earned it, the way they went out there tonight they proved that they belong and they earned that".

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

12 teams is so dumb.

In the end who cares? Oregon winning this whole thing.

 

[Yo Mama]

PAC-12 with two of the top four seeds as we all expected.

 

[General Malaise]

James Franklin whining after the game at his presser.....what a baby. Is he for real?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

PAC-12 with two of the top four seeds as we all expected.

I don't see Oregon St or Wash St anywhere on the list.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I haven't read the last 5 pages, as I was at a friend's house in Eugene with a bunch of people watching the Oregon D look like crap but taking care of biz on offense (concerning, for sure). But I would love to know the odds I could have gotten a year ago on this seeding. Too bad we have no good football in the West! In related news, this system has so many unintended consequences it's ridiculous.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. ASU

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Deion’s Colorado Buffaloes, not the Arizona State Sun Devils, need to be Big 12 champs

Without Deion Sanders’ Colorado Buffaloes in the Big 12 title game, only Arizona State will go to the big playoff.

www.yahoo.com

I haven't kept up with CF in a while and I know the landscape is way different than it used to be so when I read

No matter how much lobbying, whining and campaigning anyone in this league does, only the Sun Devils are in, while the second-place Cyclones will head to play in the XXX Adult Entertainment Complex Bowl.

I was like really? Porn companies are now hosting bowl games? but I looked around and it's predicted that ISU is going to the pop tart bowl so it's just a funny typo that someone is going to get fired over. Next time maybe he'll be more careful to make sure he's typing in his web browser and not his article.

 

[need2know]

Watching these announcers bloviate on. "I think they've earned it, the way they went out there tonight they proved that they belong and they earned that".

They say about them after a loss to a bad 3-loss Clemson team.

12 teams is so dumb.

In the end who cares? Oregon winning this whole thing.

Wrong

 

[rockaction]

I was going to write something thoroughly devastating but I haven’t followed college football in so long that I really don’t have much to say and you’re all self-aware people, right?

But the national championship game (as opposed to the bowl tradition) was supposed to end these debates. Those in opposition to a playoff of any sort (the traditionalists) argued the regular season would lose its meaning, that there would be bowing to public pressure for expansion, and that there would be a diluted product. Those people were roundly pilloried by those that wanted a true nat’l champ for once and for all. (No more going for two in the Orange Bowl costing a team a national championship.)

Now you guys are all quibbling about who gets the twelve seed of a legit-*** tournament that has over twenty games. Is it a team with three losses or another team with three losses? We holler, then decide.

Seems like the originalists and traditionalists might have never had a true national champion, but they knew where this was all heading. Money, dollars, arguments galore, and a slightly diluted product around the edges.

(You all have every right to feel as passionate as you want—I’m just surprised how right those guys were about what would happen.)

 

[zoobird]

Kind of ironic that we finally have a 12 team playoff to settle who's number 1 in one of the few seasons where there's absolutely no question who would have deserved to be #1 based on the regular season

 

[kupcho1]

Seems like the originalists and traditionalists might have never had a true national champion, but they knew where this was all heading. Money, dollars, arguments galore, and a slightly diluted product around the edges.

First, I disagree that the product has been even slightly diluted, and certainly not by the move to a playoff system (rather than a popularity contest).

The changes over the last few years (e.g., the transfer portal, NIL) have made for greater parity. Disregarding the negative effects that have come along with these changes (and there have been many), you can't argue that the playing field is much more level.

Secondly, "money dollars and arguments galore" aren't bugs, they're features.
College football is a business. And business is booming.

 

[rockaction]

Seems like the originalists and traditionalists might have never had a true national champion, but they knew where this was all heading. Money, dollars, arguments galore, and a slightly diluted product around the edges.

First, I disagree that the product has been even slightly diluted, and certainly not by the move to a playoff system (rather than a popularity contest).

The changes over the last few years (e.g., the transfer portal, NIL) have made for greater parity. Disregarding the negative effects that have come along with these changes (and there have been many), you can't argue that the playing field is much more level.

Secondly, "money dollars and arguments galore" aren't bugs, they're features.
College football is a business. And business is booming.

Your second point is why my comment wasn’t devastating like I thought when I sat down to compose it. My point was more that the traditionalists were right about what would happen, but I left the possibility open that this might be a good state of affairs for fans of the sport (just not good for traditionalists).

But I disagree with your first point that the product hasn’t been diluted. Just as a very casual observer who always hated that the players didn’t get paid and is from the wrong area of the country to comment on college football (I’m from the Northeast and New England where college football has less pull than high school soccer—college football seems absurd compared to the quality of the pros, largely because of the forward pass and quarterback talent), but the product, now that it has moved from four to twelve, seems diluted and watered-down. I’m not saying the entire product of college football is watered-down—I’m talking about just the crowning of the champion of the year and who is involved in the process (although I would argue that the number twelve seed being involved in the process is infinitely better than the UPI and AP, but that’s just me).

So I gently disagree. I still think this state of affairs is better than what was in the past; it’s just that the traditionalists were sort of right about how things would proceed and what they would look like (which was my main point). But the current state of affairs is still preferable, IMO.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

It’s all about money. Before nil and transfer portals it was about money. It has been since TV revenue became the primary source of income for college football. And before then it was somewhat about money though the numbers were piddly. I can’t pinpoint the date. Maybe early 1990s? I know growing up they didn’t have a championship or conf championship games at all. A bunch of writers determined who was best. I think GT and Colorado splitting the championship was the point where fans clamored the most for some kind of final game. And TV became more dominant.

I do not like 12. Nor do I like the large playoff formats of most professional leagues. the regular season should mean more in my opinion. I think eight would’ve been the max for me. I was fine with just the best 2 playing. But hey. TV needs their ads and fans of 3 loss major program teams want their boys playing.

As long as people will pay for it they will generate the content. I didn’t watch either game last night. I quit after halftime of the boring UGA Tex game where both those teams proved they were bad. And I’m a UGA fan. They are just bad this year.

Anyway. Hope smu gets spot 12 cause bama is a sucky state. .

 

[WDIK2]

Deion’s Colorado Buffaloes, not the Arizona State Sun Devils, need to be Big 12 champs

Without Deion Sanders’ Colorado Buffaloes in the Big 12 title game, only Arizona State will go to the big playoff.

www.yahoo.com

I haven't kept up with CF in a while and I know the landscape is way different than it used to be so when I read

No matter how much lobbying, whining and campaigning anyone in this league does, only the Sun Devils are in, while the second-place Cyclones will head to play in the XXX Adult Entertainment Complex Bowl.

I was like really? Porn companies are now hosting bowl games? but I looked around and it's predicted that ISU is going to the pop tart bowl so it's just a funny typo that someone is going to get fired over. Next time maybe he'll be more careful to make sure he's typing in his web browser and not his article.

What?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Seems like the originalists and traditionalists might have never had a true national champion, but they knew where this was all heading. Money, dollars, arguments galore, and a slightly diluted product around the edges.

First, I disagree that the product has been even slightly diluted, and certainly not by the move to a playoff system (rather than a popularity contest).

The changes over the last few years (e.g., the transfer portal, NIL) have made for greater parity. Disregarding the negative effects that have come along with these changes (and there have been many), you can't argue that the playing field is much more level.

Secondly, "money dollars and arguments galore" aren't bugs, they're features.
College football is a business. And business is booming.

I spent the last 20 years more or less ignoring college football, because it seemed so silly relative to other sports. We're voting on who the champion is? Really? That's stupid.

The 12-team tournament got me back into it this year. I'm just one person, but they got me back as a viewer.

Now, I am not a fan of the NIL and transfer stuff. I get that we want players to benefit from the value they're producing, but I would prefer something less than NFL-style parity in the college game. I think the new Big Ten is kind of ridiculous. But I like the fact that there's a real post-season, and 12 teams is a large enough field that nobody can really feel all that bad about being snubbed.

 

[culdeus]

BCS - Oregon Georgia
CFP 1.0 - Oregon v Texas // Georgia v ND
CFP 2.0 - The 11 everyone thinks and Bama

Bama Texas in the first game would be interesting.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

But I like the fact that there's a real post-season, and 12 teams is a large enough field that nobody can really feel all that bad about being snubbed.

Yeah I'm not going to waste time crying over a 13th team not making it. It's way better than when it was just 2 or 4 teams.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It’s all about money. Before nil and transfer portals it was about money. It has been since TV revenue became the primary source of income for college football. And before then it was somewhat about money though the numbers were piddly. I can’t pinpoint the date. Maybe early 1990s? I know growing up they didn’t have a championship or conf championship games at all. A bunch of writers determined who was best. I think GT and Colorado splitting the championship was the point where fans clamored the most for some kind of final game. And TV became more dominant.

I do not like 12. Nor do I like the large playoff formats of most professional leagues. the regular season should mean more in my opinion. I think eight would’ve been the max for me. I was fine with just the best 2 playing. But hey. TV needs their ads and fans of 3 loss major program teams want their boys playing.

As long as people will pay for it they will generate the content. I didn’t watch either game last night. I quit after halftime of the boring UGA Tex game where both those teams proved they were bad. And I’m a UGA fan. They are just bad this year.

Anyway. Hope smu gets spot 12 cause bama is a sucky state. .

Still think it was a phantom penalty in the Orange Bowl on Rocket Ismail's punt return.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Seems like the originalists and traditionalists might have never had a true national champion, but they knew where this was all heading. Money, dollars, arguments galore, and a slightly diluted product around the edges.

First, I disagree that the product has been even slightly diluted, and certainly not by the move to a playoff system (rather than a popularity contest).

The changes over the last few years (e.g., the transfer portal, NIL) have made for greater parity. Disregarding the negative effects that have come along with these changes (and there have been many), you can't argue that the playing field is much more level.

Secondly, "money dollars and arguments galore" aren't bugs, they're features.
College football is a business. And business is booming.

I spent the last 20 years more or less ignoring college football, because it seemed so silly relative to other sports. We're voting on who the champion is? Really? That's stupid.

The 12-team tournament got me back into it this year. I'm just one person, but they got me back as a viewer.

Now, I am not a fan of the NIL and transfer stuff. I get that we want players to benefit from the value they're producing, but I would prefer something less than NFL-style parity in the college game. I think the new Big Ten is kind of ridiculous. But I like the fact that there's a real post-season, and 12 teams is a large enough field that nobody can really feel all that bad about being snubbed.

Disagree if it's being setup so the ACC and Big Ten get all the at-large spots (except Notre Dame when they are good).

 

[rockaction]

It’s all about money. Before nil and transfer portals it was about money. It has been since TV revenue became the primary source of income for college football. And before then it was somewhat about money though the numbers were piddly.

Oh, you’ve got it. But the numbers weren’t that piddly. Comparatively, yes. But for amateur sports, there was an awful lot of money in CFB. More than basketball until the NCAA tourney took off around the time of the Big East’s rise to prominence. But CFB was king for a long time.

 

[Capella]

Anybody know the current odds for smu and bama to get in

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Anybody know the current odds for smu and bama to get in

Fanduel has SMU -670 and Alabama +430

 

[Capella]

Anybody know the current odds for smu and bama to get in

Fanduel has SMU -670 and Alabama +430

Thank you

 

[Dr_Zaius]

It’s all about money. Before nil and transfer portals it was about money. It has been since TV revenue became the primary source of income for college football. And before then it was somewhat about money though the numbers were piddly. I can’t pinpoint the date. Maybe early 1990s? I know growing up they didn’t have a championship or conf championship games at all. A bunch of writers determined who was best. I think GT and Colorado splitting the championship was the point where fans clamored the most for some kind of final game. And TV became more dominant.

I do not like 12. Nor do I like the large playoff formats of most professional leagues. the regular season should mean more in my opinion. I think eight would’ve been the max for me. I was fine with just the best 2 playing. But hey. TV needs their ads and fans of 3 loss major program teams want their boys playing.

As long as people will pay for it they will generate the content. I didn’t watch either game last night. I quit after halftime of the boring UGA Tex game where both those teams proved they were bad. And I’m a UGA fan. They are just bad this year.

Anyway. Hope smu gets spot 12 cause bama is a sucky state. .

Still think it was a phantom penalty in the Orange Bowl on Rocket Ismail's punt return.

I’ve complained about the Colorado championship on here before. A loss, a tie, the sketchy clipping call against ND, a sketchy last second TD against Stanford, and of course the infamous 5th down game against Missouri. No way it shouldn’t have been Georgia Tech as sole champion.

 

[JAA]

I would like to propose an alternate method for choosing the CFP field.

Current problems:

• Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense
• Our current CFP system will fail if teams that play in Conference Championship Games (CCG) are penalized for playing an extra game vs others not playing in their CCG.

My attempt will be to try and model the NFL and NCAAB. The goal of this method is to reward the regular season (just like the NFL) and then to make the Conf Championship games meaningful (Just like NCAAB). What I think you will find when you go through the process, the conf championship games will be much more exciting while at the same time rewarding regular season wins.

Proposal, 2 parts:

1. The top 8 ranked teams at the end of the regular season receive auto bids into the CFP and thus can "opt out" of the conference championship game.
2. The remaining 4 CCGs are played with whomever is left.

Desired outcome

• In-season rankings will be important, but they will not be absolutes for who is in and out of the CFP. Think of the top 8 as receiving an auto-bid, first round bye (like the NFL), into the CFP.
• CCGs are now always play-in games, they will never be play-out games, with whomever wins going to the CFP.

 

[culdeus]

I would like to propose an alternate method for choosing the CFP field.

Current problems:

• Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense
• Our current CFP system will fail if teams that play in Conference Championship Games (CCG) are penalized for playing an extra game vs others not playing in their CCG.

My attempt will be to try and model the NFL and NCAAB. The goal of this method is to reward the regular season (just like the NFL) and then to make the Conf Championship games meaningful (Just like NCAAB). What I think you will find when you go through the process, the conf championship games will be much more exciting while at the same time rewarding regular season wins.

Proposal, 2 parts:

1. The top 8 ranked teams at the end of the regular season receive auto bids into the CFP and thus can "opt out" of the conference championship game.
2. The remaining 4 CCGs are played with whomever is left.

Desired outcome

• In-season rankings will be important, but they will not be absolutes for who is in and out of the CFP. Think of the top 8 as receiving an auto-bid, first round bye (like the NFL), into the CFP.
• CCGs are now always play-in games, they will never be play-out games, with whomever wins going to the CFP.

Now this is an idea. This year you'd have probably a Tenn/Bama game for a spot?

 

[heckmanm]

I would like to propose an alternate method for choosing the CFP field.

Current problems:

• Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense
• Our current CFP system will fail if teams that play in Conference Championship Games (CCG) are penalized for playing an extra game vs others not playing in their CCG.

My attempt will be to try and model the NFL and NCAAB. The goal of this method is to reward the regular season (just like the NFL) and then to make the Conf Championship games meaningful (Just like NCAAB). What I think you will find when you go through the process, the conf championship games will be much more exciting while at the same time rewarding regular season wins.

Proposal, 2 parts:

1. The top 8 ranked teams at the end of the regular season receive auto bids into the CFP and thus can "opt out" of the conference championship game.
2. The remaining 4 CCGs are played with whomever is left.

Desired outcome

• In-season rankings will be important, but they will not be absolutes for who is in and out of the CFP. Think of the top 8 as receiving an auto-bid, first round bye (like the NFL), into the CFP.
• CCGs are now always play-in games, they will never be play-out games, with whomever wins going to the CFP.

Interesting. So the top 8 going into this weekend were
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. PSU
4. ND
5. UGA
6. OSU
7. Tenn
8. SMU

if they all opted out, then presumably the CCGs would be something like:
ACC: Clemson (17) vs Miami (12)
B1G: Indiana (10) vs Illinois (21)
SEC: Alabama (11) vs South Carolina (14)
B12: ASU (15) vs ISU (16) (no change)
MW: BSU (11) vs UNLV (20) (no change)

The only real outlier here his Illinois having a shot as the 5th-place B1G team. All of the other teams are either in the field this year, or at least were in the discussion for the last couple spots.

 

[heckmanm]

Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense

Honestly, I think this is a really hard issue to solve, as there's $$ to be made (clicks and eyeballs) in putting out rankings early that are largely based on reputation (school and conference) and the prior season (which means even less than it used to with the transfer portal).

 

[belljr]

I think CCGs are "pretty big deals" to football programs. But I could be wrong

 

[JAA]

I would like to propose an alternate method for choosing the CFP field.

Current problems:

• Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense
• Our current CFP system will fail if teams that play in Conference Championship Games (CCG) are penalized for playing an extra game vs others not playing in their CCG.

My attempt will be to try and model the NFL and NCAAB. The goal of this method is to reward the regular season (just like the NFL) and then to make the Conf Championship games meaningful (Just like NCAAB). What I think you will find when you go through the process, the conf championship games will be much more exciting while at the same time rewarding regular season wins.

Proposal, 2 parts:

1. The top 8 ranked teams at the end of the regular season receive auto bids into the CFP and thus can "opt out" of the conference championship game.
2. The remaining 4 CCGs are played with whomever is left.

Desired outcome

• In-season rankings will be important, but they will not be absolutes for who is in and out of the CFP. Think of the top 8 as receiving an auto-bid, first round bye (like the NFL), into the CFP.
• CCGs are now always play-in games, they will never be play-out games, with whomever wins going to the CFP.

Interesting. So the top 8 going into this weekend were
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. PSU
4. ND
5. UGA
6. OSU
7. Tenn
8. SMU

if they all opted out, then presumably the CCGs would be something like:
ACC: Clemson (17) vs Miami (12)
B1G: Indiana (10) vs Illinois (21)
SEC: Alabama (11) vs South Carolina (14)
B12: ASU (15) vs ISU (16) (no change)
MW: BSU (11) vs UNLV (20) (no change)

The only real outlier here his Illinois having a shot as the 5th-place B1G team. All of the other teams are either in the field this year, or at least were in the discussion for the last couple spots.

Based on current rankings, yes.

However, who looks at Boise State and "knows without a doubt" that Tenn, ND, or even OSU would beat them ... without a doubt. I would wager with my proposal the CFP committee would rank BSU higher at the end of the regular season.

This is my speculation here, but I mean its not rocket science, all college rankings inflate teams that will be big draws. They are afraid these teams (and the television sets which follow them) will be left behind. In my model, no team can really be left behind.

 

[JAA]

I think CCGs are "pretty big deals" to football programs. But I could be wrong

To your point, CCGs would need to be renamed. CC would be regular season conference champs. RE NCAAB, I would love to know if a #1 seed in their power 4 conference tournament lost the first round and was not selected for the NCAA tourney (this would be a play out game). I doubt that has even happened. Meaning, the NCAAB tourney, the greatest tourney on the planet, have never had a play-out CCG for #1 seeds.

Let's talk though ... you are SMU, would you go back in time right now and opt-out with my proposal? I think the answer is clear. And we see this in the NFL by the way. How many #1 seeds "rest their players" when there is nothing to gain? The teams are defacto saying they dont care about those wins as they do not help them and their mission, the only mission, to win the Lombardi.

Also, lets look at PSU and their record. Tell me again who thinks PSU would destroy BSU? Heck, I was impressed with SMU vs Clemson. Do you think SMU plays PSU or even ND the same as Clemson?

I would much rather see Oregon opt out and see PSU play the field. I personally do not think PSU's resume is worth their seeding. This is the problem. Show me a real win PSU!!

 

[belljr]

I think CCGs are "pretty big deals" to football programs. But I could be wrong

To your point, CCGs would need to be renamed. CC would be regular season conference champs. RE NCAAB, I would love to know if a #1 seed in their power 4 conference tournament lost the first round and was not selected for the NCAA tourney (this would be a play out game). I doubt that has even happened. Meaning, the NCAAB tourney, the greatest tourney on the planet, have never had a play-out CCG for #1 seeds.

Let's talk though ... you are SMU, would you go back in time right now and opt-out with my proposal? I think the answer is clear. And we see this in the NFL by the way. How many #1 seeds "rest their players" when there is nothing to gain? The teams are defacto saying they dont care about those wins as they do not help them and their mission, the only mission, to win the Lombardi.

Also, lets look at PSU and their record. Tell me again who thinks PSU would destroy BSU? Heck, I was impressed with SMU vs Clemson. Do you think SMU plays PSU or even ND the same as Clemson?

I would much rather see Oregon opt out and see PSU play the field. I personally do not think PSU's resume is worth their seeding. This is the problem. Show me a real win PSU!!

Then why should only 4 those conferences get "play in games"

 

[JAA]

I think CCGs are "pretty big deals" to football programs. But I could be wrong

To your point, CCGs would need to be renamed. CC would be regular season conference champs. RE NCAAB, I would love to know if a #1 seed in their power 4 conference tournament lost the first round and was not selected for the NCAA tourney (this would be a play out game). I doubt that has even happened. Meaning, the NCAAB tourney, the greatest tourney on the planet, have never had a play-out CCG for #1 seeds.

Let's talk though ... you are SMU, would you go back in time right now and opt-out with my proposal? I think the answer is clear. And we see this in the NFL by the way. How many #1 seeds "rest their players" when there is nothing to gain? The teams are defacto saying they dont care about those wins as they do not help them and their mission, the only mission, to win the Lombardi.

Also, lets look at PSU and their record. Tell me again who thinks PSU would destroy BSU? Heck, I was impressed with SMU vs Clemson. Do you think SMU plays PSU or even ND the same as Clemson?

I would much rather see Oregon opt out and see PSU play the field. I personally do not think PSU's resume is worth their seeding. This is the problem. Show me a real win PSU!!

Then why should only 4 those conferences get "play in games"

That's how it is now. Thats how it should always be for football as their is much less parity in NFAAF than compared to NCAAB and even the NFL. It ensures a quality product and not having lower tier teams get destroyed while at the same time allowing for non p4 teams a chance at the field.

 

[Capella]

I’ll take my hack at the order:

Oregon
Georgia
Boise
ASU

5 Texas vs 12 SMU
6 Penn State vs 11 Clemson
7 Notre Dame vs 10 Indiana
8 Ohio State vs 9 Tennessee

 

[MAC_32]

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. ASU
5. Texas vs. 12. SMU
6. Penn State vs 11. Clemson
7. Notre Dame vs 10. Indiana
8. Ohio State vs. 9. Tennessee

IMO.

Agreed.

*Minimizes rd 1 travel
*Eliminates one of Oregon or Ohio St by the quarters
*Doesn't set precedent for 3 loss team that misses conf champ game to jump 1 loss conf champ participant that lost at the horn
*Avenues for 3 SEC teams to make the semis
*Path for Texas is SMU-Az St
*Path for Georgia is ND / Indiana then Boise / Penn St / Clemson

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I’ll take my hack at the order:

Oregon
Georgia
Boise
ASU

5 Texas vs 12 SMU
6 Penn State vs 11 Clemson
7 Notre Dame vs 10 Indiana
8 Ohio State vs 9 Tennessee

Agreed

 

[heckmanm]

Based on current rankings, yes.

However, who looks at Boise State and "knows without a doubt" that Tenn, ND, or even OSU would beat them ... without a doubt. I would wager with my proposal the CFP committee would rank BSU higher at the end of the regular season.

I think I'm less confident than you on the bolded, especially with the TV networks likely having a thumb on the scale. I used the current rankings because it's hard enough to predict what the committee will do in a week, much less in a future season.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

McMurphy already tweeted source say SMU in and Alabama is out.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Put Vandy in the playoffs cowards!

Will be awesome next year when they put a 4-loss Alabama in

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

McMurphy already tweeted source say SMU in and Alabama is out.

Would love for my immediate prior post to be wrong. Wanna hear Saban squeal.

-QG

 

[Jayded]

I would like to propose an alternate method for choosing the CFP field.

Current problems:

• Current regular season rankings are garbage. There are so many teams which do not deserve their rankings whether at the beginning of the season or at the end. It feels to me that so many big conference teams are inflated based on non-sense
• Our current CFP system will fail if teams that play in Conference Championship Games (CCG) are penalized for playing an extra game vs others not playing in their CCG.

My attempt will be to try and model the NFL and NCAAB. The goal of this method is to reward the regular season (just like the NFL) and then to make the Conf Championship games meaningful (Just like NCAAB). What I think you will find when you go through the process, the conf championship games will be much more exciting while at the same time rewarding regular season wins.

Proposal, 2 parts:

1. The top 8 ranked teams at the end of the regular season receive auto bids into the CFP and thus can "opt out" of the conference championship game.
2. The remaining 4 CCGs are played with whomever is left.

Desired outcome

• In-season rankings will be important, but they will not be absolutes for who is in and out of the CFP. Think of the top 8 as receiving an auto-bid, first round bye (like the NFL), into the CFP.
• CCGs are now always play-in games, they will never be play-out games, with whomever wins going to the CFP.

I like the heart of this idea, but if there are 5 championship games and 4 spots, what do you do?

You also have to have some kind of condition for the small schools. Is it that the highest 4 ratings of those 5 play in winners post-game make the field?

The other option might be the auto bids stop at 7 and the Conference Play-in Game (instead of CCG) decides the final 5 spots.

 

[QuizGuy66]

As much as I generally hate spoiling/tipping picks I would approve in situation as ESPN taking 3 hours to reveal the picks is super annoying and should be punished.

-QG

 

[whoknew]

All Clemson can afford is Dominos for their players? Terrible.

Where is all that money going? We know Dabo won't let it be spent on NIL.

 

[QuizGuy66]

LOL ESPN graphic somehow avoids putting "keyl losses" on their pro-'Bama resume comparison.

-QG

 

[SoBeDad]

Miami vs Colorado would be a great bowl game. Ward and Sanders, head to head. IF they even agree to play and risk injury.

 

[Moe.]

So if Clemson is 12 does that mean SMU is out? Would they rank SMU ahead of Clemson?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

So if Clemson is 12 does that mean SMU is out? Would they rank SMU ahead of Clemson?

They didn't move Clemson ahead of the SEC trio

 

[Moe.]

So if Clemson is 12 does that mean SMU is out? Would they rank SMU ahead of Clemson?

They didn't move Clemson ahead of the SEC trio

I just thought Clemson would be seeded above SMU

 

[Jayded]

So if Clemson is 12 does that mean SMU is out? Would they rank SMU ahead of Clemson?

They didn't move Clemson ahead of the SEC trio

I just thought Clemson would be seeded above SMU

Me too. PSU and Texas have the ideal draws IMO.

 

[Moe.]

Texas-SMU would have been amazing too