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**2024 New York Jets official thread** - End of the Rodgers error...era (8 Viewers)

His numbers were good on paper but failed to deliver in big moments as in past.
It's odd because his numbers do look good at year's end, but watching him play he was in serious decline and his mistakes directly cost them a few games. I think yesterday they just faced a team that had given up (despite being alive for a playoff slot).

It also seems a lot of those stats came in like 3-4 big games and there were plenty of weeks where the offense did nothing.

I really don't want him back and I'm not sure I could take another season having to root for this self-absorbed weirdo that takes no responsibility when he plays bad. I may take a year off of even following the team if he's back.
 
Looks like I'm off to NY, just checked my inbox and I also received an interview request for the coaching job. Didn't think my AAU basketball coaching was enough to land an NFL interview but it is Woody and the Jets...
 
Ya know what......I'll just say it. I'm team Rex.

They're gonna lose no matter who it is but at least that would be objectively hilarious
 
I keep checking to make sure it’s not a fake account, but Schefter is reporting that the Jets requested to interview Mike Greenberg for the GM role. :confused:
 
So the Jets are seeking permission to talk to anyone under the sun about their head coaching position but came out saying they won't reach out to Ben Johnson? lol
 
I keep checking to make sure it’s not a fake account, but Schefter is reporting that the Jets requested to interview Mike Greenberg for the GM role. :confused:
It’s a different Mike Greenberg (Bucs Assistant GM):

Well that makes a whole lot more sense. Though I generally think it’s a bad sign when you do GM and HC searches at the same time
Yes, Woody is an idiot that still insists the GM and HC each report to him individually, instead of the HC reporting to the GM - the only other team with that set up is the Browns.

When something is done by the two worst franchises in the league it probably tells you it’s a poor idea.
 
Jets ask permission to interview Flores and Uncle Josh McCown current QB coach - I cant see Josh getting the HC gig from QB coach but would be on board with him as OC to Flores which may be the intent. Interesting combo
 
rex back in the building - very polarizing. I know some who would be thrilled - some who would be horrified. Not much else going on so lets break it down -

Pros:

Knows the team, fan base, reporters, owners, etc.
Actually would kill for the jon - very unique
Would immediately upgrade the D - blitzes back on the menu
Knows how to control the media - nice blend of players coach but also can discipline - loved his no more country club for Rodgers quote
Has experience - playoff wins - good connections
While can be a distraction - shields the team by it

Cons:

Out of football long time - not impossible see Vermeil - but would need very strong assistants
OC would be critical
Still focuses on one side of ball
Won with mostly Mangini players - still brought in some top FAs like Bart
Distraction to the point of sideshow circus
2d stint in Buffalo a disaster - did he learn from failings?

Summary - not my top choice but could see the allure/nostalgia. Id def rather have him than some on the list but probably only if they whiff on more than a few top choices.

Ready for the strong opinions - not many are apathetic to Rex lol
 
We don’t need Rex. I’m fifty-one and time is getting up there for me to see a winner (I might never). We need talent and we need it before Brick nepos this whole thing. Really, I want Woody to sell the team because everything else is like bronze-coating ****. It might look shiny, but it stinks underneath it all.
 
Rex is also uniquely bad. He runs his mouth and can’t deliver—and worse than that, he can’t figure out why. He’s the last thing the Jets need.
 
Rex is also uniquely bad. He runs his mouth and can’t deliver—and worse than that, he can’t figure out why. He’s the last thing the Jets need.
We'd all love Woody to sell the team but thats just not going to happen - so gotta hope for a Dolan like change!

Rex definitely runs his mouth but he won more than any other Jet coach in my lifetime and Im in my 50s.

Back to back AFCCG beating Peyton and Brady on the road is impressive even if it was over a decade ago.

He also wasnt helped on offense - Sanchez was always mid - bad OCs - then the change of GM to that bum Idzik did him in - they had the worst offensive weapons Ive seen in Jet history.

He had 2 epic seasons, 2 8-8 seasons and 2 bad ones - thats miles better than any other Jet coach - granted an extremely low bar!
 
Heres the list so far - where does Rex rank on yours? Heres how I list them - Vrabel is probably not realistic - so my top choice would be Flores with Josh as OC.

Id be torn between Rex and Glenn but Glenn growing on me with that last performance - if Det D looks beastly in playoffs Id feel better.

Former TEN HC Mike Vrabel
MIN DC Brian Flores
DET DC Aaron Glenn
ESPN analyst Rex Ryan

All the rest no thanks!
Former NFL HC Ron Rivera, BUF OC Joe Brady, DEN DC Vance Joseph, KC OC Matt Nagy, PIT OC Arthur Smith, , SF QB coach Brian Griese, , , HOU OC Bobby Slowik
 
Bringing Rex back would just further the clown show image of the Jets. Of course winning would change that but I'm just not sure Rex has what it takes anymore.
 
Bringing Rex back would just further the clown show image of the Jets. Of course winning would change that but I'm just not sure Rex has what it takes anymore.
Probably - but it was a clown show going to back to back AFCCGs - ill take that if they win over the bottom feeding garbage of the past decade
 
We'd all love Woody to sell the team but thats just not going to happen
The story that says how much his sons are involved tells us Woody is not selling the team. Just what we need another trust fund baby in control.
Can you imagine the exponential pompous billionaire trust fund babyism we will be dealing with when his kids take over? They'll be second generation owners at that point, having been involved from a very young age. This is NOT going to get better any time soon. As Kidd keeps referencing, we truly need to run into one Dolan style and hope they GTFO of the way.
 
You know what about the Jets this year? They were at least freaking watchable. Other than the Arizona and second Buffalo game they at least didn’t mail it in. They really could have been a playoff team with some breaks. Oh well. Can’t run this guy back at QB. He played eons better than Zach Wilson, but I’m not sure he endeared himself to some important people in the process.
 
I personally rank the offseason coaching candidates thusly:

1) Ben Johnson
2) Kellen Moore
3) Aaron Glenn
4) Arthur Smith
5) Vance Johnson
6) Jerrod Mayo

I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting or unaware of and I reserve the right to change my opinion.
 
Heres the list so far - where does Rex rank on yours? Heres how I list them - Vrabel is probably not realistic - so my top choice would be Flores with Josh as OC.

Id be torn between Rex and Glenn but Glenn growing on me with that last performance - if Det D looks beastly in playoffs Id feel better.

Former TEN HC Mike Vrabel
MIN DC Brian Flores
DET DC Aaron Glenn
ESPN analyst Rex Ryan

All the rest no thanks!
Former NFL HC Ron Rivera, BUF OC Joe Brady, DEN DC Vance Joseph, KC OC Matt Nagy, PIT OC Arthur Smith, , SF QB coach Brian Griese, , , HOU OC Bobby Slowik

For me it's
Vrabel

Gruden
Flores

Joe Brady
Aaron Glenn

Then whatever.

Then Rex somewhere underneath myself with Doc and and you as my coordinators.
 
Ben Johnson
This would be my top pick but I see no way he would take that job. Last offseason he turned down interviews because it wasn't the right fit. I can't imagine working for Woody and Brick in the swamps of Jersey is the right fit.

It’s a pipe dream, Doc. I know. I’m not even sure Aaron Glenn would want to throw his name in our ring.

Our job stinks. Russini (I think it was her) reporting on Woody and Brick has essentially nuked the Jets chances of hiring anybody really good. It just has. Who wants to get in the ring with those working conditions if you can pick and choose?
 
Ben Johnson
This would be my top pick but I see no way he would take that job. Last offseason he turned down interviews because it wasn't the right fit. I can't imagine working for Woody and Brick in the swamps of Jersey is the right fit.

It’s a pipe dream, Doc. I know. I’m not even sure Aaron Glenn would want to throw his name in our ring.

Our job stinks. Russini (I think it was her) reporting on Woody and Brick has essentially nuked the Jets chances of hiring anybody really good. It just has. Who wants to get in the ring with those working conditions if you can pick and choose?
Thats why I think Glenn, Flores and Rex have the edge - Glen is a former Jet and word is he is still fond the the franchise, Flores has limited options after suing the NFL...Rex bleeds green. Im thinking its one of those 3. My fave being the Flores/Josh combo - given up a hope of an offensive coach - just not any there that make sense.
 
Ben Johnson
This would be my top pick but I see no way he would take that job. Last offseason he turned down interviews because it wasn't the right fit. I can't imagine working for Woody and Brick in the swamps of Jersey is the right fit.

It’s a pipe dream, Doc. I know. I’m not even sure Aaron Glenn would want to throw his name in our ring.

Our job stinks. Russini (I think it was her) reporting on Woody and Brick has essentially nuked the Jets chances of hiring anybody really good. It just has. Who wants to get in the ring with those working conditions if you can pick and choose?
It feels like the one bit of leverage they have is that they are the only team with a coaching vacancy that also has a GM vacancy. So in theory, it COULD be more desirable for a coach to come here in some sort of tandem with a new GM. But since we're hiring them independent of eachother to maintain the Johnson hierarchy set forth, throw that thought out the window.
 
I personally rank the offseason coaching candidates thusly:

1) Ben Johnson
2) Kellen Moore
3) Aaron Glenn
4) Arthur Smith
5) Vance Johnson
6) Jerrod Mayo

I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting or unaware of and I reserve the right to change my opinion.
Vrabel has been mentioned as the Jets “top choice”

Rex mentioned himself as the top choice. I wish I were joking. :lol:
 
I personally rank the offseason coaching candidates thusly:

1) Ben Johnson
2) Kellen Moore
3) Aaron Glenn
4) Arthur Smith
5) Vance Johnson
6) Jerrod Mayo

I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting or unaware of and I reserve the right to change my opinion.
Vrabel has been mentioned as the Jets “top choice”

Rex mentioned himself as the top choice. I wish I were joking. :lol:
Ben Johnson isn't a realistic candidate with actual appealing jobs out there
 
I have to admit, as an outsider nothing would be funnier than watching the dumpster fire of Rex Ryan trying to coach Aaron Rodgers.

I’m not wishing that on y’all, I’m just saying if it happens I’ll barely be able to contain my excitement while I furiously pop some popcorn.
 
I have to admit, as an outsider nothing would be funnier than watching the dumpster fire of Rex Ryan trying to coach Aaron Rodgers.

I’m not wishing that on y’all, I’m just saying if it happens I’ll barely be able to contain my excitement while I furiously pop some popcorn.
If and thats a big if - Rex gets the job Im sure he could win over Rodgers. Players love him - even if he's not a "players coach" per se. Definitely tougher than Saleh who had zero control. To be honest Rodgers would be the best thing for Rex as he has shown he doesnt know much offense so Rodgers would be the de facto OC which Im sure he would love.

As for being a dumpster fire - not making the playoffs for over a decade is a dumpster fire. Making the AFCCG 2 years in a row along with two 8 win seasons would be beyond Jet fans wildest dreams at this point - I think we'd all sign on for the Rexy rollercoaster if that were the results! That being said I still think its a courtesy interview and he doesnt get the job
 
Jets bringing in Nagy and KC assistant GM today - definitely a dark horse combo.

As for interviewing HCs before having a GM - Im hoping they'll hire a GM soon/1st and then the GM sits in on the 2d rd of HC interviews and picks the HC.

Listened to Francesa podcast last pm - had an interesting idea. Convince Rex to be like his dad Buddy was with the Bears. Bring in an offensive coach that really wants the job - looking at someone like Nagy - but tell him Rex controls all things defense almost like Ditka/Buddy back in the day. That way you get Rex and his killer D but have someone who at least is competent in offense. Not sure if that would work with all the egos but it was an interesting idea id consider if everyone was on board.

Also another idea I liked - Pete Carroll as a bridge - comes in for 4 yrs to bring back to competence while grooming a successor coach

So any options its crazy!
 
I really don't like the idea of hiring Rex for any significant role. He's been out of coaching for a long time now so I have doubts his schemes are that good anymore, but mainly because the Jets need adults in the room and he isn't one. I would like Flores or Vrabel. Both are young enough to grow with the team and both have good prior HC experience. It looks like Vrabel is going to NE, but Flores would be a great hire IMO.
 
I have to admit, as an outsider nothing would be funnier than watching the dumpster fire of Rex Ryan trying to coach Aaron Rodgers.

I’m not wishing that on y’all, I’m just saying if it happens I’ll barely be able to contain my excitement while I furiously pop some popcorn.
If and thats a big if - Rex gets the job Im sure he could win over Rodgers. Players love him - even if he's not a "players coach" per se. Definitely tougher than Saleh who had zero control. To be honest Rodgers would be the best thing for Rex as he has shown he doesnt know much offense so Rodgers would be the de facto OC which Im sure he would love.

As for being a dumpster fire - not making the playoffs for over a decade is a dumpster fire. Making the AFCCG 2 years in a row along with two 8 win seasons would be beyond Jet fans wildest dreams at this point - I think we'd all sign on for the Rexy rollercoaster if that were the results! That being said I still think its a courtesy interview and he doesnt get the job
Your optimism is noted.

And it sounds downright reasonable as a theory.

In practice I think you’d soon find out that rock bottom has a basement.

the problem isn’t Rodgers needing more control of the offense, or a coach winning over Rodgers.

The problem is Rodgers.

Rex + ARod sounds like a disaster.
 
Listened to Francesa podcast last pm - had an interesting idea. Convince Rex to be like his dad Buddy was with the Bears. Bring in an offensive coach that really wants the job - looking at someone like Nagy - but tell him Rex controls all things defense almost like Ditka/Buddy back in the day. That way you get Rex and his killer D but have someone who at least is competent in offense. Not sure if that would work with all the egos but it was an interesting idea id consider if everyone was on board.

Also another idea I liked - Pete Carroll as a bridge - comes in for 4 yrs to bring back to competence while grooming a successor coach

Rex is not going anywhere if he's not the HC - He gets paid way more at ESPN than he would as a DC.

I'll be honest. I'm not surprised fatty Francesa came up with that idea and a huge "NO THANKS" on Nagy as HC, Dude was a disaster in Chicago.
 
Also another idea I liked - Pete Carroll as a bridge - comes in for 4 yrs to bring back to competence while grooming a successor coach
Pete is 73 & will be 74 when the season starts.

You want a 78 year old coach in 4 years?
if he changes the culture for a few yrs and grooms a successor and steps down at 78 I could live with it - 73-77 yrs old is not exactly ancient these days. Id take that option over some of the others Ive seen...cough Rivera!
 
Listened to Francesa podcast last pm - had an interesting idea. Convince Rex to be like his dad Buddy was with the Bears. Bring in an offensive coach that really wants the job - looking at someone like Nagy - but tell him Rex controls all things defense almost like Ditka/Buddy back in the day. That way you get Rex and his killer D but have someone who at least is competent in offense. Not sure if that would work with all the egos but it was an interesting idea id consider if everyone was on board.

Also another idea I liked - Pete Carroll as a bridge - comes in for 4 yrs to bring back to competence while grooming a successor coach

Rex is not going anywhere if he's not the HC - He gets paid way more at ESPN than he would as a DC.

I'll be honest. I'm not surprised fatty Francesa came up with that idea and a huge "NO THANKS" on Nagy as HC, Dude was a disaster in Chicago.
I think the idea was - if you love the Jets so much come be the DC. Im sure we'd find out quick his ego wont allow it.

So far best realistic option I can see is Flores/Josh McCown combo. Hoping a better option jumps out in the next few weeks but at least that pairing would have upside potential
 
I keep checking to make sure it’s not a fake account, but Schefter is reporting that the Jets requested to interview Mike Greenberg for the GM role. :confused:
It’s a different Mike Greenberg (Bucs Assistant GM):

Well that makes a whole lot more sense. Though I generally think it’s a bad sign when you do GM and HC searches at the same time
Yes, Woody is an idiot that still insists the GM and HC each report to him individually, instead of the HC reporting to the GM - the only other team with that set up is the Browns.

When something is done by the two worst franchises in the league it probably tells you it’s a poor idea.

IDK about every other team. In Detroit, both Brad Holmes & Dan Campbell report to Sheila Hamp. Brad didn’t pick Dan, he was hired 6 days before the HC and they were already deep in the process.

It’s a non sequitir it can’t work out, but without question, that pairing was as fortuitous as the Patriots marrying a HC with a 41-55 record and a 6th round QB who only took over because of injury.

Jacksonville is going to have the next head coach report to the owner, but I don’t know if that’s a long term solution or just a power play to weaken Trent Baalke.

If you already know you are going to have to fire someone later, then you should go ahead and do it now. There’s rarely good reason to delay the inevitable - other than your own personal discomfort.
 

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