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**2024 New York Jets official thread** - not dead quite yet! (2 Viewers)

Kaboom - didnt think Woody had the stones. I mean Gase and Kotite werent fired in season. Rodgers has fingerprints all over this one - cant hurt - I like Ulbrich. lets see what he can do
 
Look....we all know the issues here. Hackett is an absolute dolt. The o-line isn't blocking (to be fair....they're coached by a guy that was generally considered a bad coach....and Saleh hired him even knowing this)

But this group has consistently been undisciplined and come out flat. Clearly un-prepared after byes and extended breaks. On these issues, the buck stops with the HC. So while its weird and will cause more "LOL JETZ" narrative.....I can't say it was a bad move. He's a DC, not a HC. Good man, but not a leader of men. He's all catch phrase and no accountability.

The offense isn't going to change overnight, so unless Rodgers plays like he did against NE (or Breece starts running for 6 yards a carry again) this group isn't going anywhere.
 
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Breece Hall owner here... is this good news for him?

I mean....it can't get worse. But as long as Hackett is still calling the plays on paper.....any improvement is gonna have to come from the O-line manning up and doing their job. They've been getting embarrassed so far.
 
wow. didnt have that on my bingo card....especially this quickly

Yea, this is surprising. Woody has seen enough I guess.

Saleh's teams made Rex's look like offensive juggernauts. And they were always undisciplined / not ready.

Haven't seen anything about Hackett, but he shouldn't get a pass unless Saleh was somehow limiting him.
 
I take it Rodgers must of wanted him canned? With the crap performance in London, and the way Rodgers brushed him off when he trying to celebrate with him, and then gave some BS reason.. I guess they weren't seeing eye to eye.
 
Not sure this helps - but applaud Woody for not just sticking his head in the sand and trying something.
Agreed - we knew he was gone after this season if they missed the playoffs again, but this is not Woody's style. Have to think the locker room/management was really in danger of being lost the way things are, and Rodgers running things may have gotten a bit out of whack among many of the players.
 
Look....we all know the issues here. Hackett is an absolute dolt. The o-line isn't blocking (to be fair....they're coached by a guy that was generally considered a bad coach....and Saleh hired him even knowing this)

But this group has consistently been undisciplined and come out flat. Clearly un-prepared after byes and extended breaks. On this issues, the buck stops with the HC. So while its weird and will cause more "LOL JETZ" narrative.....I can't say it was a bad move. He's a DC, not a HC. Good man, but not a leader of men. He's all catch phrase and no accountability.

The offense isn't going to change overnight, so unless Rodgers plays like he did against NE (or Breece starts running for 6 yards a carry again) this group isn't going anywhere.
you are correct - it really doesnt change the issues except placating Rodgers most likely. Keeping both Saleh and Hackett were biggest offseason mistakes

Ulbrech gets an audition to get the job if they go on a run. If they fail its clear the whole thing is going to be blown up
 
What a dumpster fire this team is. So short-sighted with no continuity, consistency, plan, or identity. Trade for Rodgers, trade for Reddick, trade for Davante, and on and on. There will be a new "rebuild" next year when the current FO, coaching staff and core players are all gone. Can't wait.
 
What a dumpster fire this team is. So short-sighted with no continuity, consistency, plan, or identity. Trade for Rodgers, trade for Reddick, trade for Davante, and on and on. There will be a new "rebuild" next year when the current FO, coaching staff and core players are all gone. Can't wait.
Cleveland: "Hold my beer..."
 
There is zero chance this was done without Rodgers ok - fingerprints all over this. Well Arod - its your show now
Agreed. My guess is Davante will be a Jet in short order.
For all we know, that could have been the final straw. Maybe Rodgers was politicking hard for Adams, but Saleh did not want any part of it.
obviously there was a lot going on behind the scenes which we dont know - technically JD makes the call as the GM but I honestly think this is a Woody/A-Rod decision. its comical that Hackett didnt go as well but makes sense if Arod is in control. I expect Devante is a Jet soon.
 
If I'm a Jets fan, I'm glad for this.

The worst spot to be in as an NFL team is a QB that's ok but you won't be good enough.

Second worst spot to be in as HC that's ok but you know isn't good enough.

Rah Rah defensive guy that couldn't move the team forward.

And mostly, he failed to understand who's team this is.
 

Now we get to watch one of my favorite things play out.

If #Jets struggle, Woody Johnson is crazy and impulsive and unstable for being rash.

If Jets do well, Woody Johnson is decisive and courageous.

Best part of this is, "We'll See".
fair but I dont think any Jet fan will think it was crazy and impulsive even if it didnt work out - we are more upset that it wasnt done after last season. If it doesnt work they are all gone anyway so I give Woody credit for trying something...even though it may have been forced by Rodgers.
 

Now we get to watch one of my favorite things play out.

If #Jets struggle, Woody Johnson is crazy and impulsive and unstable for being rash.

If Jets do well, Woody Johnson is decisive and courageous.

Best part of this is, "We'll See".
fair but I dont think any Jet fan will think it was crazy and impulsive even if it didnt work out - we are more upset that it wasnt done after last season. If it doesnt work they are all gone anyway so I give Woody credit for trying something...even though it may have been forced by Rodgers.

Agreed. Should have been done last season.

But no Rodgers made it tough.
 
There is zero chance this was done without Rodgers ok - fingerprints all over this. Well Arod - its your show now
Agreed. My guess is Davante will be a Jet in short order.
For all we know, that could have been the final straw. Maybe Rodgers was politicking hard for Adams, but Saleh did not want any part of it.
obviously there was a lot going on behind the scenes which we dont know - technically JD makes the call as the GM but I honestly think this is a Woody/A-Rod decision. its comical that Hackett didnt go as well but makes sense if Arod is in control. I expect Devante is a Jet soon.
It’s been very clear since the team overpaid Lazard and brought in the corpse of Randall Cobb, who is really in control of this team.
 
Yeah, Woody has NEVER fired a coach mid-season....not even Gase (who in reality should have been fired mid--press conference)

There's likely some internal strife going on behind the scenes. I dont believe he woke up this morning and made this decision himself. And its not likely to work out (at the start of the season, I would have said home playoff game was the bar.....that's not happening now). But nobody is gonna spin this as "crazy Woody jumped the gun"
 
Saleh was a masterclass in fumbling the most important player.

You can't rip a QB about cadence when that's one of the things he's most known for. Most free play TDs in history.

Can't announce to the press your QB won't play in preseason without telling the QB first.

I knew the non hug was something. They played it off but that was the tell.
 
There's likely some internal strife going on behind the scenes. I dont believe he woke up this morning and made this decision himself. And its not likely to work out (at the start of the season, I would have said home playoff game was the bar.....that's not happening now). But nobody is gonna spin this as "crazy Woody jumped the gun"
No one knows for sure, but that loss to the Broncos last week probably set the wheels in motion. It was an unacceptable loss at home being big time favorites (for once) against a pretty weak team, all after shellacking the hated Patriots the week before. The London loss to the Vikings was almost certainly the straw that broke the camel's back. If they come through and beat Minnesota at the end, maybe it might have changed the narrative for the time being, but the season is in danger of spiraling out of control (again). So kudos to Woody for stepping out of his comfort zone and shaking things up.
 
Ulbrich:


Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady aren’t the only people in the NFL who grew up 49ers fans. Jets defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich has a unique connection to the San Francisco franchise. And under different circumstances this past offseason, Ulbrich would’ve been back on the 49ers’ sideline when the teams open the season on Monday Night Football (8:15 p.m. ET, ESPN/ABC).

Mike Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle wrote Saturday that Ulbrich was Kyle Shanahan’s top target following the 49ers’ 25-22 overtime loss to Kansas City in Super Bowl LVIII. Shanahan fired defensive coordinator Steve Wilks and immediately called Robert Saleh for permission to pursue Ulbrich.

Shanahan met a brick wall similar to the defenses Saleh engineered for him from 2017-20 prior to leaving to become the Jets’ head coach.

“I don’t blame him,” a smiling Saleh told Silver. “He should ask. The answer was no. But I’d ask, too.”

Silver’s story is the first time both Salah and Ulbrich directly addressed Shanahan’s pursuit of Ulbrich this past February, per Zack Rosenblatt of The Athletic, who covers the Jets.

Ulbrich’s mom, Silver said, was a 49ers cheerleader at old Kezar Stadium decades before Ulbrich spent a decade patrolling San Francisco’s defense as a starting linebacker (2000-09). Ulbrich joined Pete Carroll’s first Seahawks staff in 2010, when he worked with Dan Quinn. Then, in 2015, Quinn brought Ulbrich to Atlanta, where Ulbrich met Quinn’s new offensive coordinator, Shanahan.
 

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