**2024 New York Jets official thread** - Saleh fired - Aaron Rodgers....I mean Jeff Ulbrich interim HC (1 Viewer)

[Kiddnets]

Game week - somehow SF signs their 2 biggest holdouts and of course the Jets sit there with Reddick holding out.

I just cant see Reddick missing 10 games - it will crush his value for a long term deal. Im thinking hes hoping the Jets lay an egg pass rush wise vs SF and come crawling back. I dont think its going to happen - JD is dug in. What a mess.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I hope Reddick enjoys a nice MN off by the TV with his family.

Signed,

— 49ers fans

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Game week - somehow SF signs their 2 biggest holdouts and of course the Jets sit there with Reddick holding out.

I just cant see Reddick missing 10 games - it will crush his value for a long term deal. Im thinking hes hoping the Jets lay an egg pass rush wise vs SF and come crawling back. I dont think its going to happen - JD is dug in. What a mess.

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

The amount of money Reddick is losing in fines (which could be waived but at this point why would they do him any favors) and salary, with actual games missed, makes his decision an incredibly dumb one. I know someone probably will pay him, but I think if he sits out 11 game it will also hurt his efforts to get a huge deal next offseason.

Let him cost himself millions. The defense will be elite without him.

 

[Kiddnets]

Game week - somehow SF signs their 2 biggest holdouts and of course the Jets sit there with Reddick holding out.

I just cant see Reddick missing 10 games - it will crush his value for a long term deal. Im thinking hes hoping the Jets lay an egg pass rush wise vs SF and come crawling back. I dont think its going to happen - JD is dug in. What a mess.

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

The amount of money Reddick is losing in fines (which could be waived but at this point why would they do him any favors) and salary, with actual games missed, makes his decision an incredibly dumb one. I know someone probably will pay him, but I think if he sits out 11 game it will also hurt his efforts to get a huge deal next offseason.

Let him cost himself millions. The defense will be elite without him.

Im hoping both Trent and Aiyuk are still getting their sea legs - might as well play them 1st game than later.

I honestly dont know what Reddick's end game is here - he's 30 so missing a prime season to show he still can dominate isnt in his best interest. Neither is missing game checks.

I think most Jet fans are with you - hes a luxury and since we havent had him he's not missed. If the D shows up big in week 1 Reddick is toast if not already.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

Reportedly he’s stayed fit. Dude’s among the best in the league, I don’t think he’s been sitting on his couch pounding MGDs & eating pork rinds this whole time.

OL could be out of synch a bit but they have a few days to get it together.

Hey, if Bill Murray can get that ragtag group of misfits to Army graduation in a night, I have faith that Shanny can get our OL together in a week.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Game week - somehow SF signs their 2 biggest holdouts and of course the Jets sit there with Reddick holding out.

I just cant see Reddick missing 10 games - it will crush his value for a long term deal. Im thinking hes hoping the Jets lay an egg pass rush wise vs SF and come crawling back. I dont think its going to happen - JD is dug in. What a mess.

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

The amount of money Reddick is losing in fines (which could be waived but at this point why would they do him any favors) and salary, with actual games missed, makes his decision an incredibly dumb one. I know someone probably will pay him, but I think if he sits out 11 game it will also hurt his efforts to get a huge deal next offseason.

Let him cost himself millions. The defense will be elite without him.

Im hoping both Trent and Aiyuk are still getting their sea legs - might as well play them 1st game than later.

I honestly dont know what Reddick's end game is here - he's 30 so missing a prime season to show he still can dominate isnt in his best interest. Neither is missing game checks.

I think most Jet fans are with you - hes a luxury and since we havent had him he's not missed. If the D shows up big in week 1 Reddick is toast if not already.

With Williams back the Niners o-line should be better of course, but with his age and potentially being eased back in the Jets should be able to get constant pressure on Purdy. If that happens Riddick loses all leverage and will be back out there sooner rather than later. He truly is a luxury for this team.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The Jets restructured the contracts of Quincy Williams and Tyler Conklin, creating $8M in cap space, per Field Yates.

Could be adding some cap space to add guaranteed money for Reddick.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Or maybe for this?

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[TLEF316]

yeah, really solid move locking up Carter. Guy has been excellent from day 1 and never makes a peep. Just shows up every week and plays really really well.

Not that we didnt know this already, but this makes it even more likely (IMO) that they let DJ Reed walk after the season. He's obviously been great, but the Sauce bill comes due a year from now and they cant afford to pay all 3 top dollar.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

Reportedly he’s stayed fit. Dude’s among the best in the league, I don’t think he’s been sitting on his couch pounding MGDs & eating pork rinds this whole time.

OL could be out of synch a bit but they have a few days to get it together.

Hey, if Bill Murray can get that ragtag group of misfits to Army graduation in a night, I have faith that Shanny can get our OL together in a week.

I meant more in football shape and conditioning. I’m sure he stayed in shape and I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s as dominant as ever, but I do think getting in early before Williams really ramps up is an advantage - while obviously not as much as Williams not playing at all.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trent Williams will be out of shape and rusty at least

Reportedly he’s stayed fit. Dude’s among the best in the league, I don’t think he’s been sitting on his couch pounding MGDs & eating pork rinds this whole time.

OL could be out of synch a bit but they have a few days to get it together.

Hey, if Bill Murray can get that ragtag group of misfits to Army graduation in a night, I have faith that Shanny can get our OL together in a week.

I meant more in football shape and conditioning. I’m sure he stayed in shape and I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s as dominant as ever, but I do think getting in early before Williams really ramps up is an advantage - while obviously not as much as Williams not playing at all.

oh I agree, I was mostly just having fun picturing the Niners cramming like in Stripes.

Good to see you on the forums.

I’ll tell ya what - I’ll give ya 1 J-E-T-S jets jets jets!

And then I’ll be rooting against them on MNF.

 

[mphtrilogy]

Thanks for creating the thread for the season @Kiddnets happy to see a DocOc sighting it would be a shame for you to have done all this ground work and we finally (perhaps) get a good season and not dip a toe in this thread.

Vibes are good despite Reddick, it's been a long way road back but here we go. Very interested to see what this team look like in real game action.
LGJ!

 

[Kiddnets]

While it stinks that 49ers signed all their stars and of course Reddick sits there, it is a good time to play them as its clear CMC is gimpy and Aiyuk/Trent may not be in game shape yet.

Im sure Rodgers would love to make a statement in prime time at his home area that he is back.....Im feeling optimistic but usually am this time of year! lol

 

[Deamon]

Reddick seems pretty dug in here

 

[TLEF316]

Not too much to say. Just simply wasn't good enough. This afternoon at work, a bunch of us were chatting and I said I thought the Jets had a 35% chance to win tonight. In theory, those odds went up a bit with CMC out, but man the O and D-lines just got absolutely punked tonight. Just consistently blown off the ball all game long. The bright side was that Rodgers didn't really get hit dropping back, but there were just no holes for Breece (cost me a fantasy win) and room all day for SF.

Now, SF is really really good and basically do the same things the Jets try to do with MUCH better coaches. Rodgers clearly still has the brain and juice in his arm, but they just never got anything going after the early TD.

I'm confident the o-line will play better with some more time to gel and easier matchups. But the defensive front 7 is a real concern. No shame in Jermaine Johnson getting shut down by a HOF LT, but nobody else did anything either. Teams are gonna throw every body they have at Q, chip Jermaine (if they dont have a LT capable of handling him 1 on 1) and dare anyone else to beat them.

In theory Reddick helps in the pass rush, but he's not really a run stopper. And that was the biggest problem tonight. As many on twitter said, giving JFM away for nothing doesn't look very good right now. He's not a world beater, but he's a big body that can play the run.

 

[Judge Smails]

This was supposed to be a top 3 defense and they were horrific. No tenacity. No push. Never came close to Purdy. Got run all over. Couldn't cover anybody. Complete disaster. What a farce this franchise is.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I don’t want to overreact to a road game against the NFC Champions, but I did expect a better effort than that.

The defense was shredded and Hackett’s offense showed some signs (due to Rodger’s talent), but he’s the least imaginative play caller in the league.

Run, run, pass, punt.

Lazard ended up having a big TD catch but the guy shouldn’t be playing over the younger WRs. He’s not a good NFL WR, just happens to have rapport with Rodgers.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Reddick seems pretty dug in here

It seems like management incompetence. Were they expecting him to play under his old contract? If he would have done that, he'd probably still be in Philly.

 

[Crash Davis]

Agree with most of what tlef316 and Dr. Octopus said. The DL is a big concern. Reddick would obviously help the pass rush, but teams are going to try and run the ball down their throat. That's going to be an issue in division games especially I think. Maybe this prompts them to reach out to Reddick and get him in house finally but I'm not going to hold my breath.

With no pressure and a ton of weapons/chess pieces, SF exploited the safeties in coverage all night long. The corners didn't play great, but it sure felt like every time SF had a big pass play A.Davis was the one getting torched. Not every team is going to have enough skill guys to exploit matchups like that, but if opposing QBs have that much time they'll find the weak link too.

The predictable, boring offensive play calling was one of my most disappointing parts of the night along with Breece looking really pedestrian out there. Mason looked like Earl Campbell out there and Hall seemed to go down with first contact on every play. I get he had zero room to run, but he didn't look like one of the best RBs in the league, especially when you factor in the fumble and easy drop. As mentioned, run, run, pass, punt. If that's going to be the gameplan all year this offense isn't going to do much against anyone. You've got Aaron Rodgers, be a little bit more creative FFS. We really need Williams healthy or Corely to get up to speed because it can't all be Wilson with no other threat in the passing game.

All that said they were playing one of the handful of best teams in the league and possibly the one with the best overall roster outside of QB and a really good coaching staff. I wasn't expecting a win, but I was hoping for a better showing. The good things to take away were that Rodgers looks fine to me and the OL kept a pretty good pass rush at bay and kept him upright most of the night. I think the OL will get better at run blocking as the season goes on and the schedule gets easier, which it should in theory starting this week. Win a couple of games in a row and this will sting a little less. Lose to teams like Ten, NE or Den and things will get dicey quickly.

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[TLEF316]

Reddick seems pretty dug in here

It seems like management incompetence. Were they expecting him to play under his old contract? If he would have done that, he'd probably still be in Philly.

We dont know what was said behind closed doors. If he told them he wasn't playing without a multi-year extension, I dont think they make the trade.

I personally think the Jets plan was to give him a raise and some achievable bonuses for this year. I think he originally indicated that he'd be open to that and then balked after the fact..

No way of knowing this, but that's my gut.

 

[Mookie]

I hate to say it but it was the Same Old Jets. Dominated in the trenches on both sides, plus a bunch of drive killing drops, penalties, and sloppy play. Above all else, they looked soft and that is really worrying. Not a good start for a team playing 3 games in 11 days. Oof.

 

[Judge Smails]

I hate to say it but it was the Same Old Jets. Dominated in the trenches on both sides, plus a bunch of drive killing drops, penalties, and sloppy play. Above all else, they looked soft and that is really worrying. Not a good start for a team playing 3 games in 11 days. Oof.

Same old Jets? Their D was much better last year, and on the field a lot more due to an inept offense. This makes no sense to me. I know it's just one game but visually that was terrible.

 

[Kiddnets]

This was essentially a pre season game. I dont think any Jets fan felt confident of a win but all of us expected a better showing. Better days ahead but some observations:

QB - Rodgers looked pretty good - way better than Cousins looked in his recovery. Didnt have many drives to do anything with - He still can play and there will be much better days ahead

OL - Not a good showing for the new group - Rodgers was harassed and zero run blocking. Need to improve fast - at least came out healthy

RB - One of the worst games Ive seen from Breece - down quick, fumble and drops - likely a one off. Allen showed some skills in garbage time

WR - Wilson and the rest. Wilson is going to eat with Rodgers this year and get a monster contract. Even with the TD Lazard has no business being in a starting lineup. M Williams was seldom used decoy but can see him taking over that #2 WR spot in the next few wks,. No impact players otherwise.

TE - invisible

DL - Im most upset about this one - and not with Reddick. Jets had a great DL for years and they got cocky and messed it all up. They let 3 starters walk and if you add up all the contracts it wouldnt have been that much more to keep it intact. It all started with that massive overpay for Kinlaw who has shown nothing so far...dealing JFM for nothing for being too expensive and then watch as he takes a huge paycut and is now cheap. We've beaten the Huff vs Reddick thing to death - Reddick would not have helped much last pm. They were steam rolled with the run and zero pass rush - very concerning.

LBs - lots of tackles down field but no impact plays.

DBs - Sauce is still a monster - loved that play to start it off. Too much let up with Reed and Carter - safeties making tackled 10 yds down the field

Coaching - biggest issue. All off season to prep for this game - Saleh's old team where he knows that offense well - and this is the effort? Throw in Hackett's run Breece twice then throw on 3rd and long - officially concerned about being outcoached all season.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The good things to take away were that Rodgers looks fine to me and the OL kept a pretty good pass rush at bay and kept him upright most of the night

What’s even more impressive about the pass blocking is most of the passing attempts came on 3rd down when SF knew they would be passing.

Hackett should have two more games at most to show he is a competent OC. (Narrator: He’s not.)

The offense was so predictable last night. Rodgers will get creamed eventually if he’s always in 3rd and long situations.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I hate to say it but it was the Same Old Jets. Dominated in the trenches on both sides, plus a bunch of drive killing drops, penalties, and sloppy play. Above all else, they looked soft and that is really worrying. Not a good start for a team playing 3 games in 11 days. Oof.

Same old Jets? Their D was much better last year, and on the field a lot more due to an inept offense. This makes no sense to me. I know it's just one game but visually that was terrible.

The offense was inept last night outside of one drive.

 

[Deamon]

Reddick seems pretty dug in here

It seems like management incompetence. Were they expecting him to play under his old contract? If he would have done that, he'd probably still be in Philly.

We dont know what was said behind closed doors. If he told them he wasn't playing without a multi-year extension, I dont think they make the trade.

I personally think the Jets plan was to give him a raise and some achievable bonuses for this year. I think he originally indicated that he'd be open to that and then balked after the fact..

No way of knowing this, but that's my gut.

Not to get into this all again, but if Reddick was okay with just "a raise and a few bonuses for the year", then Philly would have given him that. It seems clear that he wanted a huge extension, Philly wasn't willing to do that so traded him (they were trying to work on an extension with him but the sides couldn't agree so he then was traded). Maybe the Jets thought he would change his mind, maybe he ended up asking for more than he originally told them, or maybe they didn't do their full due diligence with his agent to find out exactly what kind of money he was looking for (my assumption).

Either way it's a mess. I think the Jets will be fine and will destroy Tennessee next week for the record.

 

[Mookie]

I hate to say it but it was the Same Old Jets. Dominated in the trenches on both sides, plus a bunch of drive killing drops, penalties, and sloppy play. Above all else, they looked soft and that is really worrying. Not a good start for a team playing 3 games in 11 days. Oof.

Same old Jets? Their D was much better last year, and on the field a lot more due to an inept offense. This makes no sense to me. I know it's just one game but visually that was terrible.

I was referring to the Same Old Jets in a historical sense. They have a certain brand of ineptitude that has been carefully curated over the past 50 years. It's why we Jets fans are so miserable.

 

[Dizzy]

I hate to say it but it was the Same Old Jets. Dominated in the trenches on both sides, plus a bunch of drive killing drops, penalties, and sloppy play. Above all else, they looked soft and that is really worrying. Not a good start for a team playing 3 games in 11 days. Oof.

Same old Jets? Their D was much better last year, and on the field a lot more due to an inept offense. This makes no sense to me. I know it's just one game but visually that was terrible.

The offense was inept last night outside of one drive.

Exactly. Once they realized that Garret Wilson changed his jersey number it was game over.

 

[mphtrilogy]

Took way too long getting the passing game going, but the reality is the niners did a phenomenal job playing keep away so they did not have many chances the D was a big disappointment a disheartening loss, but I will be back facing more torture on Sunday!

This was definitely a pre-season game like many across the league, let's see how they do after getting completely outplayed

 

[Mookie]

Someone explain to me why signing an injured Mike Williams and trading a conditional third for a contractually angry Reddick were good ideas. It reeks of desperation.

 

[Kiddnets]

Someone explain to me why signing an injured Mike Williams and trading a conditional third for a contractually angry Reddick were good ideas. It reeks of desperation.

M Will has big upside and came at a cheap price due to the injury. Im not a believer in any other WR besides Wilson on the team so once Williams gets healthy he will have a good chance at targets with soft schedule upcoming. The fact that he already played a few snaps even as a decoy is encouraging.

Reddick has been beaten to death - who knows the real story but the logic behind it most likely is that the Jets are giving up a 3rd in 2026 for him - they viewed him as a 1 yr player and when he goes and signs a big deal elsewhere they would get a 3rd rd comp pick to replace him as they will likely be spending all their cap room signing own players vs anyone outside - so JD probably saw the value in dropping a few spots in the 3rd rd in 2026 for a stud like Reddick for cheap. Somewhere along the line it went off the rails - not sure who to believe but he's gotta report by week 10 so if they are in a playoff race it would be a nice addition late in the year. Honestly most Jet fans are not losing sleep over Reddick that I know

 

[NYRAGE]

That was painful to watch. I felt like Howard Beale from "Network" during the game.

The team is talented, but incredibly out-coached almost every game.

On offense, it was run-run-pass-punt. That's when we actually had the ball since we spent most of the game watching SF run on us. We open the game with an easy first down and soccer-boy drops an easy pass to kill any chance of starting with momentum. Then we decide to throw to Wilson and move down the field looking like a good offense. Then we mysteriously stopped throwing to Wilson. It was run into blockers on first and second down. Pass on third and five or six, then punt. Hackett needs to be shot into the sun.

On defense, our tackling has always been below average, but some of those formations were sketchy. They left open lanes the way the d-line was angled. On that Mason td, half of the team was playing too deep. Did we even try to shut down the run at any point? Ulbrich gets a lot of respect and acclaim, but I have always said that he is working with a lot of talent back there. Not adjusting in this game or even the Dallas game last year makes me think Ulbrich isn't as good as he gets credit for.

Saleh: loves to sell us bs, but no one is buying it anymore. The hokey slogans and the "we'll fix it" bravado are empty.

JD: Maybe trading JFM and not signing our interior guys for Kinlaw was a mistake (as was the other trade).

I tend to discount a lot of what I see in week 1 because players don't really play in the pre-season anymore. That said, this team was not ready for prime-time and maybe never will thanks to its coaching staff. SF is a great team, but that was a poor effort. Hopefully they get better (and make Hackett the water-boy or something like that).

 

[efactor]

WR - Wilson and the rest. Wilson is going to eat with Rodgers this year and get a monster contract.

I hope so as I have a share of Wilson for the first time.

My concern from watching the game Monday night was how Rodgers peppered Wilson on the TD drive and then flat out stopped, and that was after you see him on the sidelines saying "#5 all day long" after the TD. Turns out that was their only good drive of the night. I've always liked watching Rodgers play and he can obviously still throw the ball at a high level, but he seems "off" to me on the mental side of the game. Almost like he was trying to humble Wilson. Just seemed odd to ignore your ultra talented WR after that kind of a drive.

 

[Kiddnets]

WR - Wilson and the rest. Wilson is going to eat with Rodgers this year and get a monster contract.

I hope so as I have a share of Wilson for the first time.

My concern from watching the game Monday night was how Rodgers peppered Wilson on the TD drive and then flat out stopped, and that was after you see him on the sidelines saying "#5 all day long" after the TD. Turns out that was their only good drive of the night. I've always liked watching Rodgers play and he can obviously still throw the ball at a high level, but he seems "off" to me on the mental side of the game. Almost like he was trying to humble Wilson. Just seemed odd to ignore your ultra talented WR after that kind of a drive.

jets were down a lot and barely had the ball....i wouldnt sweat it

I would sweat the Jet coaching staff - only positive Saleh brings is a top defense and it looked awful. Just one game but if this team is going to make a run they will be out coached by almost every top team. huge issue

 

[Dr. Octopus]

only positive Saleh brings is a top defense

It's not like he has some great defensive scheme either. His "system" going back to SF was to add waves of pass rushers and get the the QB with a 4 man pass rush with an occasional corner or LBer blitz.

Obviously because of Rodgers, Salah and staff weren't going anywhere - but they really should have cleaned house and brought in a new coaching staff. The talent is there but the coaching has been weak (especially Hackett's playcalling).

 

[Rubi]

A couple of knee jerk reactions from someone with no skin in the game:

Aaron Rogers is no savior. He's an average quarterback right now.
If The Jets run the ball well he's capable of managing a game and getting a victory.

A very over hyped Jets defense got torched by the Niners.
With a backup running back and the best wide receiver obviously very rusty from no preseason practice San Francisco did anything they wanted to on offense.

Robert Saleh was a top notch defensive coach with The Niners.
He is not a very good head coach.
Seems like a nice guy and someone the players like and will play for.
But it's not translating to head coaching success.

Just my 2 cents as a casual observer

 

[TLEF316]

I dont think one bad night on the road against one of the top 3 teams in the league means the Jets D is "very overhyped" I think we have 2 years of data (where that D kept them in many games despite all time horrible QB play) to show that's probably not the case. It was opening night and the starters didnt play at all in the pre-season. (that was obviously a coaching decision).

Dont get me wrong....it was bad...especially with CMC out. They got gouged. And considering that they lost some pretty key front 7 guys from last year's group.....there's legitimate reasons to be at least a little concerned. But IMO, this group will show themselves to be elite over the course of 17 games. Too much talent. They have all all-pro player at all 3 levels plus several other pro-bowl caliber players.

Agreed on coaching.

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

I still have faith that they'll win 10 or 11 g ames. (assuming decent health to key pieces)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Aaron Rogers is no savior. He's an average quarterback right now.

Based on what exactly? They hardly passed the ball but he looked sharp and accurate when they did. The running game was subpar but Hackett stuck with it.

ETA: I don’t think anyone thinks he’s a savior in the sense he’ll be a league MVP again but just competent QBing would go a long way with this roster and I expect he’ll be better than competent. Just his experience and field intelligence makes this a far better offense than in years past.

 

[Snotbubbles]

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

He isn't less mobile because of "rust."

Aaron Rodgers faces a long, arduous but not impossible road to recovery from torn Achilles tendon

Super Bowl dreams turned into another nightmare for long-suffering Jets fans once it became clear Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon.

www.turnto23.com

“In general, 75% of NFL players return to play after an Achilles repair,” DeLuca said. “Their level of performance is decreased after the first year back but returns to baseline after two-three years. These statistics are published for position players but there is no data specifically addressing a QB. It is my opinion that his throwing will not be affected by this injury but his running will be slower.”

 

[TLEF316]

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

He isn't less mobile because of "rust."

Aaron Rodgers faces a long, arduous but not impossible road to recovery from torn Achilles tendon

Super Bowl dreams turned into another nightmare for long-suffering Jets fans once it became clear Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon.

www.turnto23.com

“In general, 75% of NFL players return to play after an Achilles repair,” DeLuca said. “Their level of performance is decreased after the first year back but returns to baseline after two-three years. These statistics are published for position players but there is no data specifically addressing a QB. It is my opinion that his throwing will not be affected by this injury but his running will be slower.”

Really not sure why you have such a bug up your butt about the Jets (we gave you a draft pick for Reddick. not sure why you can't just be happy about that. Coming in here to take shots at the team is honestly kinda weird at this point) , but that's not what I said.....

We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off

Fully acknowledge that this might be (hell.....probably will be) what he is going forward in terms of mobility. (he's over 40 and coming off an Achilles) But its really not unreasonable to think that MAYBE......JUST MAYBE...there was a little movement hesitancy for a guy playing his first snaps since such a serious injury? He didn't play in the pre-season. He hasn't been hit. There's always a chance (even a small one) that he gets a little more spring in his step once he gets a little playing time under his belt.

 

[Snotbubbles]

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

He isn't less mobile because of "rust."

Aaron Rodgers faces a long, arduous but not impossible road to recovery from torn Achilles tendon

Super Bowl dreams turned into another nightmare for long-suffering Jets fans once it became clear Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon.

www.turnto23.com

“In general, 75% of NFL players return to play after an Achilles repair,” DeLuca said. “Their level of performance is decreased after the first year back but returns to baseline after two-three years. These statistics are published for position players but there is no data specifically addressing a QB. It is my opinion that his throwing will not be affected by this injury but his running will be slower.”

Really not sure why you have such a bug up your butt about the Jets (we gave you a draft pick for Reddick. not sure why you can't just be happy about that. Coming in here to take shots at the team is honestly kinda weird at this point) , but that's not what I said.....

We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off

Fully acknowledge that this might be (hell.....probably will be) what he is going forward in terms of mobility. (he's over 40 and coming off an Achilles) But its really not unreasonable to think that MAYBE......JUST MAYBE...there was a little movement hesitancy for a guy playing his first snaps since such a serious injury? He didn't play in the pre-season. He hasn't been hit. There's always a chance (even a small one) that he gets a little more spring in his step once he gets a little playing time under his belt.

It's a message board guy. If you don't like people making posts about your favorite team, I'd suggest finding another arena to have discussions about the Jets.

 

[TLEF316]

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

He isn't less mobile because of "rust."

Aaron Rodgers faces a long, arduous but not impossible road to recovery from torn Achilles tendon

Super Bowl dreams turned into another nightmare for long-suffering Jets fans once it became clear Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon.

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“In general, 75% of NFL players return to play after an Achilles repair,” DeLuca said. “Their level of performance is decreased after the first year back but returns to baseline after two-three years. These statistics are published for position players but there is no data specifically addressing a QB. It is my opinion that his throwing will not be affected by this injury but his running will be slower.”

Really not sure why you have such a bug up your butt about the Jets (we gave you a draft pick for Reddick. not sure why you can't just be happy about that. Coming in here to take shots at the team is honestly kinda weird at this point) , but that's not what I said.....

We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off

Fully acknowledge that this might be (hell.....probably will be) what he is going forward in terms of mobility. (he's over 40 and coming off an Achilles) But its really not unreasonable to think that MAYBE......JUST MAYBE...there was a little movement hesitancy for a guy playing his first snaps since such a serious injury? He didn't play in the pre-season. He hasn't been hit. There's always a chance (even a small one) that he gets a little more spring in his step once he gets a little playing time under his belt.

It's a message board guy. If you don't like people making posts about your favorite team, I'd suggest finding another arena to have discussions about the Jets.

You do what you want. It's just weird to have this much animosity to a historically irrelevant team that you play once every 4 years.

I'm not jumping into the Panthers thread to give then grief over the 2nd round pick they gave us for Sam darnold

 

[Kiddnets]

TBD on Rodgers. The brain is still there. He can still sling it. We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off, but even if he doesn't, I think a healthy version of this O-line will keep him protected well enough to move the ball. Williams will come back and get in the mix. Hall will have much better days.

He isn't less mobile because of "rust."

Aaron Rodgers faces a long, arduous but not impossible road to recovery from torn Achilles tendon

Super Bowl dreams turned into another nightmare for long-suffering Jets fans once it became clear Rodgers tore his left Achilles tendon.

www.turnto23.com

“In general, 75% of NFL players return to play after an Achilles repair,” DeLuca said. “Their level of performance is decreased after the first year back but returns to baseline after two-three years. These statistics are published for position players but there is no data specifically addressing a QB. It is my opinion that his throwing will not be affected by this injury but his running will be slower.”

Really not sure why you have such a bug up your butt about the Jets (we gave you a draft pick for Reddick. not sure why you can't just be happy about that. Coming in here to take shots at the team is honestly kinda weird at this point) , but that's not what I said.....

We'll see if he gets more mobile once a little more rust comes off

Fully acknowledge that this might be (hell.....probably will be) what he is going forward in terms of mobility. (he's over 40 and coming off an Achilles) But its really not unreasonable to think that MAYBE......JUST MAYBE...there was a little movement hesitancy for a guy playing his first snaps since such a serious injury? He didn't play in the pre-season. He hasn't been hit. There's always a chance (even a small one) that he gets a little more spring in his step once he gets a little playing time under his belt.

It's a message board guy. If you don't like people making posts about your favorite team, I'd suggest finding another arena to have discussions about the Jets.

You do what you want. It's just weird to have this much animosity to a historically irrelevant team that you play once every 4 years.

I'm not jumping into the Panthers thread to give then grief over the 2nd round pick they gave us for Sam darnold

I know quite a few Philly fans who are still smarting over being beaten by a Jets team led by Zach Wilson. Trust me - Philly has plenty of their own problems!

Bashing on the Jets is open season until they actually start winning. They did nothing week 1 to change that narrative. They have a few very winnable games - sweep the next few and the narrative will change. Lose a few and absolute panic will set in....up and down and it will be meh - same old jets

Starts today - too early for a must win but if they want to be taken seriously they need to play a lot better than last week and come out with a win - not looking for a blowout like so many seem to be - but look solid and get the win. Home opener vs pats will be hyped!

 

[Deamon]

What is wrong with this team?

 

[Crash Davis]

Can't stop the run, can't get to the QB, cant run the ball but keep trying because it's not like we have a former MVP at QB or anything so let's never pass. Sigh.

 

[Deamon]

Not sure why they aren't throwing. Not watching the game, but 22 minutes into the game and Rodgers has thrown the ball 4 times (3 times to breece)

 

[Deamon]

That's better. Wilson is the key to this team, pepper that guy with passes already.

 

[TLEF316]

Ugh. Johnson likely season ended. Looks like the holdout just gained a whole mess of leverage

 

[Kiddnets]

Ugh. Johnson likely season ended. Looks like the holdout just gained a whole mess of leverage

certainly looks like it - changes the dynamic a few ways. It wasnt just an ineffective DL but now losing their best pass rusher....to a possible career killing achilles injury - not exaggerating see Carl Lawson. So where the Jets not only have the huge need but now the money they were reserving for JJ may need to go to Reddick the next 3 years as they cant afford to wait for JJ to come back from this and certainly wont extend him early. Huge ripple effect injury

ill get to the game later but ill take any ugly win

 

[NYRAGE]

Ugh. Johnson likely season ended. Looks like the holdout just gained a whole mess of leverage

certainly looks like it - changes the dynamic a few ways. It wasnt just an ineffective DL but now losing their best pass rusher....to a possible career killing achilles injury - not exaggerating see Carl Lawson. So where the Jets not only have the huge need but now the money they were reserving for JJ may need to go to Reddick the next 3 years as they cant afford to wait for JJ to come back from this and certainly wont extend him early. Huge ripple effect injury

ill get to the game later but ill take any ugly win

Man, I didn't think of it that way when they announced it was his achilles. Damn. He's a good player, but that's a tough injury to come back from as a pass rusher.

Ugly day. Good win, but costly.

The run def was exposed again early on. I'll have to watch the game again, but Sherwood put up 12 tackles in place of Mosley.

Rodgers looks a bit tentative back there, but can still throw. I imagine that he's still a bit rusty.

The play-calling is still unreal. G Wilson had 6 targets??? Send Hackett to the moon.

Allen looked great. I hope we see more of Breece and Allen out there together. Makes it more difficult for the defense to defend.

3 sacks from McDonald was great. We need him now more than ever.

I couldn't believe we didn't intercept the ball that Ridley scored on and the review looked like he should have been down at the one.