**2024 New York Jets official thread** - Saleh fired - Aaron Rodgers....I mean Jeff Ulbrich interim HC (3 Viewers)

[Crash Davis]

Guys can come back from Achilles injuries these days, bit it isn't a given. JJ is young so I give him a better chance than Lawson. Also remember that Lawson was given a contract based on potential and not results. I'm not sure he's the ultimate litmus test.

 

[TLEF316]

I will say....good for Will McDonald. Nobody with a brain was writing off a 2nd year guy that didn't even play a full role last year, but man I thought him coming back without any additional mass on him was a bad omen.

1 game doesn't make a season (or career) but 3 sacks and a forced fumble is a really nice start. And they're obviously gonna need him.

Just so bummed about Johnson. Really takes the steam out of a win when a key guy goes down. And yeah....just horrendous timing. Jets need to decide on his 5th year option with no idea how he'll bounce back from such a serious injury.

On another down note, the "Sauce holds all the time" crowd definitely picked up some additional ammo on that last drive. Guessing the Jets future opponents will be throwing that tape in front of the officials for quite a while.

And yes, Hackett stinks.

 

[BassNBrew]

LOL at the narrative that Wilson could only go up after the previous QBs.

 

[Chemical X]

maybe this team can make the playoffs, but with hackett and saleh at the helm, i’m not so sure. they seem out coached every week. now saleh has a time management issue? calling timeouts cause hackett can’t get plays in? ugh.

 

[mphtrilogy]

Tons of Rust, but team looked pretty good at times, the D tightened up a bit more and great to see Will step up when they needed him most, really rooting for this kid. Rodgers made some throws that were just sick, and other times JAG like, but that has to be rust, doesn't it? Great to see Mike Williams make that huge catch when it was needed most, exactly why he was signed. As he gets more comfortable with Rodgers, this O will get a little bit better each week, especially since BAllen appears to be the real deal, a great 1-2 punch now, loved having both RBs on the field together, one of the better developments of the day. Still not using the TE's much at all, very strange.

I would expect every strong running team to be able to gash this D as the old line from last year has been gutted other than Q, so the O needs to be on the offensive so to speak as this D works best with a lead, but what D doesn't? This TENN team is pretty good, this was a tough test with a short week and two travel weeks to begin the season every win in the NFL is a big deal. Levis cost them this one, but he has a cannon and some chemistry building with Ridley.

Very tough news about JJ hope he comes back stronger then ever.

 

[Kiddnets]

Few thoughts on the game:

Rodgers is still shaking the rust off - going to get even better which is exciting - I honestly think the playclock issue is him changing Hackett's lousy playcalls

RBs - Adding Allen as a legit compliment and not just handcuff to Breece makes the O even more dangerous - love it!

OL - not awful but have yet to open up the running game

WR/TE - Dying for a 2d option to Wilson. MWill needs to get healthy quick - good to see Corley on the field - Id work him in as well.

Def - bent but didnt break - not on level as last year and losing JJ hurts bad - may need to eat crow with Reddick

Coaching - song remains the same - its a disadvantage every week.

Sneaky NE team on Thurs - home opener should bring enough energy to get a win.

 

[Crash Davis]

The Patriots have rushed for 355 yards in 2 games. What they do well is our weakness, because of course it is. It will be key to get out to an early lead against them and make them throw the ball.

 

[NYRAGE]

Eagles fans seem so concerned about our Reddick situation after the trade, but that's two weeks of Huff doing nothing while getting paid mega-bucks. Hmm.

 

[Kiddnets]

Eagles fans seem so concerned about our Reddick situation after the trade, but that's two weeks of Huff doing nothing while getting paid mega-bucks. Hmm.

Jets have their own issues but so far watching Huff this is why the Jets flat out refused to even consider giving him big money. Hes a rotation pass rusher that cant stop the run. Looking like a bad contract and a good call by JD on him so far......now the Reddick quagmire is another issue!

 

[sheerterror]

Eagles fans seem so concerned about our Reddick situation after the trade, but that's two weeks of Huff doing nothing while getting paid mega-bucks. Hmm.

Jets have their own issues but so far watching Huff this is why the Jets flat out refused to even consider giving him big money. Hes a rotation pass rusher that cant stop the run. Looking like a bad contract and a good call by JD on him so far......now the Reddick quagmire is another issue!

The 2 moves have seamlessly counteracted themselves thus far in classic Jetsian fashion.

 

[Kiddnets]

Eagles fans seem so concerned about our Reddick situation after the trade, but that's two weeks of Huff doing nothing while getting paid mega-bucks. Hmm.

Jets have their own issues but so far watching Huff this is why the Jets flat out refused to even consider giving him big money. Hes a rotation pass rusher that cant stop the run. Looking like a bad contract and a good call by JD on him so far......now the Reddick quagmire is another issue!

The 2 moves have seamlessly counteracted themselves thus far in classic Jetsian fashion.

even worse as the Reddick trade pushed JD to get rid of JFM for some reason as well. Losing Jefferson was a tough loss too - I cant remember the last time the Jets didnt have a plug and play solid run stopper....but here we are

 

[rockaction]

Losing Johnson hurts both the Jets and my fantasy squad. Oooooof. That's terrible. An achilles at that age? My word. That usually happens to guys that are a bit older, though Johnson isn't that young.

 

[Crash Davis]

The Patriots have rushed for 355 yards in 2 games. What they do well is our weakness, because of course it is. It will be key to get out to an early lead against them and make them throw the ball.

This is about as good of a game script as we could have written for the entire team. They look like the team we hoped they'd be coming into the year. Doesn't mean all the issues are fixed, but good to know this performance is possible week to week.

 

[jwb]

Wow, how long has it been since we've seen a game like this?

Hall and Allen are a lethal combo. Stay healthy guys.

 

[NYRAGE]

I always say that's it's never easy for any of my teams, but this was easy. In complete control for the whole game. I feel like they left quite a few points on the board with some untimely penalties (a Saleh trademark).

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

On the bright side, how about Will Mc? Another 2 sacks and seven in total for the defense. Nice run defense, too.

It's slowly coming together for the offense. Rodgers looked better, but still missed some throws. It only gets better. Mike Williams looks good and will get ramped up more with each game. Even Lazard looked decent. Our RB duo is a menace to defenses.

Hopefully Moses isn't hut badly although it does give some opportunity to Fashanu to get some reps.

 

[rockaction]

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

I know it's a great win and a dominant one, but these things speak to something I think that's going to be an undercurrent all season (and I hope to not have to talk about it): I don't think he's a great all-around coach and I don't think the OC is very good (I don't think they just got innovative).

They'll be held back by play calling and their lack of separation at receiver with the WR2 and WR3 guys.

But what a nice win. It was nice to see them be in utter control of the Pats from the jump.

I hope Moses isn't hurt too badly and that he can play next week or the week after.

 

[rockaction]

On the bright side, how about Will Mc? Another 2 sacks and seven in total for the defense. Nice run defense, too.

I went up against him in IDP. Dammit. But what great news for the Jets!

 

[KingPrawn]

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

Get used to it. It happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it easier. It still makes you nervous as the play clock winds down though

 

[mphtrilogy]

Best win in ages, let's see if they can start stacking some wins. This was a rough opening schedule 3 games in 10 days, but to come out of it 2-1 is as good you could have hoped. Rodgers looked much better last night, great full team win, hope Moses is ok.

 

[rockaction]

Their schedule this year does not let up. It's brutal. They'll be battle tested by the end of it if we can dare to dream of extra football. Hopefully they'll just be bent and not broken.

 

[TLEF316]

Is it REALLY nice to not feel like hope is lost when your QB rolls out of the pocket on 3rd and 7? Absolutely. I actually caught myself smiling a few times last night as its just so refreshing to have someone who can actually sustain drives and make world class throws on a consistent basis. As we've stated MANY times in these threads over the past few years.....when you watch the Jets at 1 PM most weekends and then watch a real QB in prime time on Sunday night....it was like watching 2 totally different sports. Now I feel like we actually sort of have a chance.

And not that it was some incredible revelation, but i do have to pat myself on the back a LITTLE bit for suggesting that MAYBE Rodgers MIGHT show a little more mobility once he got the post-injury nerves out of the way and knocked off some rust. Obviously he's not the mover he was a few years back, but he looked fluid out there and clearly gets around well enough for roll-out stuff to be a functional part of this offense. He also took a few hits (including some hits to the legs) and bounced right back. Which was nice to see.

Smith let up a couple of sacks, which is concerning. And obviously the Moses injury (although they may have dodged a season ender) isn't great. But the bright side is that now their top draft pick gets to get his feet wet a little bit (albeit not at his natural LT spot) Would like to see the run blocking improve a little. A few plays absolutely blown up in the backfield last night and Hall hasn't really broken any long ones yet. Allen is an absolute brick house back there and a tremendous compliment to Hall.

All that being said, it was the Patriots. And this Patriots team is pretty devoid of talent. I know they were missing a couple of OL last night (not even sure how good those guys are) and I can name very few players on that abysmal roster. I was certain we'd see about 30 Rhamondre runs between the tackles and it just never happened...which was weird. So while it was nice to get a comfy win, perspective is obviously important. 10 day rest before Denver (another not so great team) will tell us a lot. Saleh has done an atrocious job coming out of bye weeks (and this is basically a mini-bye) so it will be telling if they dont come out and look good against another inferior roster. (with a kinda meh rookie QB, IMO)

 

[Kiddnets]

great game - 1st time in ages I felt like they were in complete control and wasnt worried about blowing it. I know the Pats are not a great team but they beat a decent Cincy squad and have a solid that the Jets rolled over. Crowd was insane and its just going to build....

QB - So this is what real QB play feels like? He was calm, cool, collected and looked every bit of what we expected. Keep this guy healthy

OL- This is why they drafted Olu - everyone in the stadium went from freaking out to the Moses injury to feeling much better seeing a top 10 pick trotting on to replace him - what a luxury.

WR - Gwilll and Rodgers still getting in synch - bigger things ahead on Wilson and id buy lowish. Lazard only plays for Rodgers - at least they are getting something back from their investment. MWill is slowly creeping into the mix and will be a big factor by mid year - another buy low

TE - They actually used tight ends - 2 of them! Conklin may be top 5 and even Ruckert made some catches - so happy to see them used

RB - love the combo and from Breece's interview post game hes diggin it too - plenty of touches for both. Buy low window closed on Allen

DL - Ill eat some crow on McDonald - I was not happy with the pick but he looks legit and much needed so far. If they ever add Reddick what a pass rush they will have

LB - didnt miss a beat without mosely - Q Will is prob the MVP of the D

DB - nothing crazy - good to see Reed healthy

coaching - 3rd time in a row it was a weakness - hopefully they get better because this staff will get manhandled against the elite coaches

2-1 after a frantic start is as good as you can expect - very winnable Denver and Minny games on the way - time to rest up and continue to roll. Very happy so far!

 

[NYRAGE]

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

Get used to it. It happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it easier. It still makes you nervous as the play clock winds down though

Trust me, I'm well- aware of his pace of play over the years. Taking it down to 1-2 seconds isn't the problem. It's the delay of games and not even being close to snapping it and having to call timeouts to avoid a penalty is the problem. It's been sloppy.

 

[rockaction]

Minny games on the way

Minnesota is tough, tough, tough.

 

[rockaction]

Two conference wins to zero conference losses, by the way. Couldn't have asked for a better tiebreak start.

 

[Kiddnets]

Minny games on the way

Minnesota is tough, tough, tough.

I dont live in a world yet where I fear Sam Darnold....maybe I should! lol

 

[NYRAGE]

Is it REALLY nice to not feel like hope is lost when your QB rolls out of the pocket on 3rd and 7? Absolutely. I actually caught myself smiling a few times last night as its just so refreshing to have someone who can actually sustain drives and make world class throws on a consistent basis. As we've stated MANY times in these threads over the past few years.....when you watch the Jets at 1 PM most weekends and then watch a real QB in prime time on Sunday night....it was like watching 2 totally different sports. Now I feel like we actually sort of have a chance.

And not that it was some incredible revelation, but i do have to pat myself on the back a LITTLE bit for suggesting that MAYBE Rodgers MIGHT show a little more mobility once he got the post-injury nerves out of the way and knocked off some rust. Obviously he's not the mover he was a few years back, but he looked fluid out there and clearly gets around well enough for roll-out stuff to be a functional part of this offense. He also took a few hits (including some hits to the legs) and bounced right back. Which was nice to see.

Smith let up a couple of sacks, which is concerning. And obviously the Moses injury (although they may have dodged a season ender) isn't great. But the bright side is that now their top draft pick gets to get his feet wet a little bit (albeit not at his natural LT spot) Would like to see the run blocking improve a little. A few plays absolutely blown up in the backfield last night and Hall hasn't really broken any long ones yet. Allen is an absolute brick house back there and a tremendous compliment to Hall.

All that being said, it was the Patriots. And this Patriots team is pretty devoid of talent. I know they were missing a couple of OL last night (not even sure how good those guys are) and I can name very few players on that abysmal roster. I was certain we'd see about 30 Rhamondre runs between the tackles and it just never happened...which was weird. So while it was nice to get a comfy win, perspective is obviously important. 10 day rest before Denver (another not so great team) will tell us a lot. Saleh has done an atrocious job coming out of bye weeks (and this is basically a mini-bye) so it will be telling if they dont come out and look good against another inferior roster. (with a kinda meh rookie QB, IMO)

You don't miss Wilson's mobility? No one could escape pressure like Wilson and end up running backwards 20-30 yards for an eventual sack or INT.

Rodgers had great movement last night for sure.

As far as those sacks, our TEs had a nice night catching the ball, the they look atrocious blocking. They whiffed several times. Even the linemen (e.g. Tippman) completely whiffed a bunch of times. Smith hasn't looked as good as advertised yet.

Not to seem negative because it's not really my mo, but as good as they looked at times, it's still a work in progress. They left quite a few points on the board because of sloppiness/penalties. The line will only get better. The Rodgers-Wilson connection will get better. Williams has looked good in limited opps, but he will also get better. Not sure that Hackett and Saleh will get better, but that could be my bias.

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

 

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How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

 

[NYRAGE]

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

I think everyone wanted a player that could help now (last season) rather than a luxury pick for the future. As it turns out, that luxury turned into a necessity. You never know.

There was one play last night where he just shot out like a rocket and didn't even have to make a move. He didn't get the sack, but by the time the Patriot linemen looked up, he was already past him. I was impressed.

 

[Kiddnets]

Is it REALLY nice to not feel like hope is lost when your QB rolls out of the pocket on 3rd and 7? Absolutely. I actually caught myself smiling a few times last night as its just so refreshing to have someone who can actually sustain drives and make world class throws on a consistent basis. As we've stated MANY times in these threads over the past few years.....when you watch the Jets at 1 PM most weekends and then watch a real QB in prime time on Sunday night....it was like watching 2 totally different sports. Now I feel like we actually sort of have a chance.

And not that it was some incredible revelation, but i do have to pat myself on the back a LITTLE bit for suggesting that MAYBE Rodgers MIGHT show a little more mobility once he got the post-injury nerves out of the way and knocked off some rust. Obviously he's not the mover he was a few years back, but he looked fluid out there and clearly gets around well enough for roll-out stuff to be a functional part of this offense. He also took a few hits (including some hits to the legs) and bounced right back. Which was nice to see.

Smith let up a couple of sacks, which is concerning. And obviously the Moses injury (although they may have dodged a season ender) isn't great. But the bright side is that now their top draft pick gets to get his feet wet a little bit (albeit not at his natural LT spot) Would like to see the run blocking improve a little. A few plays absolutely blown up in the backfield last night and Hall hasn't really broken any long ones yet. Allen is an absolute brick house back there and a tremendous compliment to Hall.

All that being said, it was the Patriots. And this Patriots team is pretty devoid of talent. I know they were missing a couple of OL last night (not even sure how good those guys are) and I can name very few players on that abysmal roster. I was certain we'd see about 30 Rhamondre runs between the tackles and it just never happened...which was weird. So while it was nice to get a comfy win, perspective is obviously important. 10 day rest before Denver (another not so great team) will tell us a lot. Saleh has done an atrocious job coming out of bye weeks (and this is basically a mini-bye) so it will be telling if they dont come out and look good against another inferior roster. (with a kinda meh rookie QB, IMO)

You don't miss Wilson's mobility? No one could escape pressure like Wilson and end up running backwards 20-30 yards for an eventual sack or INT.

Rodgers had great movement last night for sure.

As far as those sacks, our TEs had a nice night catching the ball, the they look atrocious blocking. They whiffed several times. Even the linemen (e.g. Tippman) completely whiffed a bunch of times. Smith hasn't looked as good as advertised yet.

Not to seem negative because it's not really my mo, but as good as they looked at times, it's still a work in progress. They left quite a few points on the board because of sloppiness/penalties. The line will only get better. The Rodgers-Wilson connection will get better. Williams has looked good in limited opps, but he will also get better. Not sure that Hackett and Saleh will get better, but that could be my bias.

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

we've watched so much bad QB play in the past decade its just unreal to see a real - albeit old and still gimpy QB operate. I dont hesitate to say Rodgers at 40 is still the best QB Ive seen on the Jets - maybe except for that one magical Vinny season.

Absolutely correct in that they are still finding their footing - nothing negative about it - they will just get better. Gotta pray for health - and that the coaches dont cost them in a big spot

I admit I was a McDonald doubter - wanted OL - but like you said at least it was a premium position and not a TE or something!

 

[Sammy B]

I know the common feeling is that it was a win over a depleted team but how many times have we seen this team play up to an opponent and down to an opponent? Not feeling all that great about the first 2 weeks, this had trap game written all over it. The Jets had to win the way they did, controlling every phase of the game. Hopefully they can build on it and keep the momentum going, fix any remaining issues. I'm still keeping my expectations to a minimum, been burned too many times. Just stay healthy and keep moving forward.

 

[TLEF316]

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

I think everyone wanted a player that could help now (last season) rather than a luxury pick for the future. As it turns out, that luxury turned into a necessity. You never know.

There was one play last night where he just shot out like a rocket and didn't even have to make a move. He didn't get the sack, but by the time the Patriot linemen looked up, he was already past him. I was impressed.

Yeah I saw one play where he just showed insane quickness and flexibility by basically just ducking underneath the tackle. It was impressive. I mean....everyone talked about the tools. The quickness...long arms...the elite "bend". But it just seemed silly to make the pick when there were so many other potential opportunities to improve.

But now it obviously looks great. He's not gonna get 2 sacks every week, but its been a really nice (and much needed) boost. That being said, you always kinda wonder about the domino effect had they gone another direction.

Would you rather have McDonald and Mike Williams (who they signed to be a needed WR2) when they could have drafted Zay Flowers(Or Smith-Njigba....or Addison if he wasn't an off the field moron) and kept Bryce Huff (who I know has stunk in Philly so far, but still). IMO, that's a tough call. Obviously looks much better in hindsight with McDonald breaking out and JJ going down.(and the holdout not signing)

Also, lots of the McDonald criticism came from the notion that they reached for him. I dont remember ANYONE mocking him as a top 20 guy and the Jets picked him seemingly out of nowhere.

 

[Chemical X]

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

Get used to it. It happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it easier. It still makes you nervous as the play clock winds down though

Trust me, I'm well- aware of his pace of play over the years. Taking it down to 1-2 seconds isn't the problem. It's the delay of games and not even being close to snapping it and having to call timeouts to avoid a penalty is the problem. It's been sloppy.

i agree with this. i am not sure if it’s hackett not getting the play in or rodgers spending too much time breaking the huddle. can’t be calling timeouts 5 minutes into Q3 because the play clock is winding down in plus territory. sometimes just take the 5 yards.

 

[Kiddnets]

Nitpicking, but what is up with the the delay of game issues. Two timeouts early in the third was amateurish.

Get used to it. It happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it easier. It still makes you nervous as the play clock winds down though

Trust me, I'm well- aware of his pace of play over the years. Taking it down to 1-2 seconds isn't the problem. It's the delay of games and not even being close to snapping it and having to call timeouts to avoid a penalty is the problem. It's been sloppy.

i agree with this. i am not sure if it’s hackett not getting the play in or rodgers spending too much time breaking the huddle. can’t be calling timeouts 5 minutes into Q3 because the play clock is winding down in plus territory. sometimes just take the 5 yards.

agreed - you cant blow 2 timeouts in the 2d half early in the 3rd quarter.....hopefully this will get better over the year

 

[rockaction]

t happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it eas

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

I think everyone wanted a player that could help now (last season) rather than a luxury pick for the future. As it turns out, that luxury turned into a necessity. You never know.

There was one play last night where he just shot out like a rocket and didn't even have to make a move. He didn't get the sack, but by the time the Patriot linemen looked up, he was already past him. I was impressed.

When you've had as many OL injuries as the Jets over the past few years you understand that it was never a luxury pick.

Yeah, but this was DL so I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying. I’m not criticizing; I’m just not sure where you’re coming from. I mean, you’re right in this sense: There really aren’t any “luxury” picks in football unless you’re picking linebackers or RBs or safeties in the first round when you already have serviceable ones.

 

[Crash Davis]

t happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it eas

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

I think everyone wanted a player that could help now (last season) rather than a luxury pick for the future. As it turns out, that luxury turned into a necessity. You never know.

There was one play last night where he just shot out like a rocket and didn't even have to make a move. He didn't get the sack, but by the time the Patriot linemen looked up, he was already past him. I was impressed.

When you've had as many OL injuries as the Jets over the past few years you understand that it was never a luxury pick.

Yeah, but this was DL so I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying. I’m not criticizing; I’m just not sure where you’re coming from. I mean, you’re right in this sense: There really aren’t any “luxury” picks in football unless you’re picking linebackers or RBs or safeties in the first round when you already have serviceable ones.

I replied to the wrong post I think.

 

[NYRAGE]

t happened in GB a lot with Rodgers. He likes to take every last second of the play clock to read the defense. As a Packer fan just about every snap happened at the 1/2 second mark. At least it felt that way. Once you understand this it makes it eas

How about Will McDonald? So many dumb Jets fans called him a bust last year and even in week 1.

5 1/2 sacks already. I'll admit I never wanted him. But at least they picked somebody at a premium position who wound up being good. They say his time in getting off the ball improved remarkably. They say he relies too much on the spin move still and needs to develop other rushes, but I'll take 5.5 sacks in three games. Nice.

I think everyone wanted a player that could help now (last season) rather than a luxury pick for the future. As it turns out, that luxury turned into a necessity. You never know.

There was one play last night where he just shot out like a rocket and didn't even have to make a move. He didn't get the sack, but by the time the Patriot linemen looked up, he was already past him. I was impressed.

When you've had as many OL injuries as the Jets over the past few years you understand that it was never a luxury pick.

Yeah, but this was DL so I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying. I’m not criticizing; I’m just not sure where you’re coming from. I mean, you’re right in this sense: There really aren’t any “luxury” picks in football unless you’re picking linebackers or RBs or safeties in the first round when you already have serviceable ones.

Ha, I'm not sure if you're responding to me or Crash. Someone misinterpreted what I was trying to say.

Anyway, for clarity, I was saying that we were trying to make the playoffs with Rodgers last year (some were saying Super Bowl) and people wanted a draft pick that could help in 2023 like WR or o-line. We went for a DL/OLB that wasn't drafted to impact 2023 - definitely impacting 2024 which is great because it's a necessity after losing Johnson.

Saleh/JD straight after drafting Will Mc said that he needed NFL conditioning/strength training/learn the system, etc, so I was saying he was a "luxury" pick for 2023. Nothing relating to his position which is a premium position to draft.

Somehow drafting Fashanu came into the discussion, but again, some people considered him to be a "luxury" because he woudln't start this year after they signed Smith. Like stated above, with us, o-line is never a luxury.

 

[rockaction]

Ha, I'm not sure if you're responding to me or Crash. Someone misinterpreted what I was trying to say.

Crash.

 

[rockaction]

Saleh/JD straight after drafting Will Mc said that he needed NFL conditioning/strength training/learn the system, etc, so I was saying he was a "luxury" pick for 2023. Nothing relating to his position which is a premium position to draft.

Somehow drafting Fashanu came into the discussion, but again, some people considered him to be a "luxury" because he woudln't start this year after they signed Smith. Like stated above, with us, o-line is never a luxury.

I got what you were saying, RAGE. I got confused when Crash said OL when you were talking about a defensive lineman as that "luxury."

 

[Crash Davis]

Yes, totally my bad. I was talking about Olu.

 

[Kiddnets]

denver looked much better yesterday - Jets arent good enough to look past any team. Minny/Darnold look much better than I thought as well - was feeling pretty good with next 2 but its going to be tough games. Glad they had some extra time to get healthy but as pointed out Saleh is dreadful coming off long layoffs.

Glad this week is home - should be a lot of energy to hopefully get a win - no matter how ugly

 

[Dr. Octopus]

denver looked much better yesterday - Jets arent good enough to look past any team. Minny/Darnold look much better than I thought as well - was feeling pretty good with next 2 but its going to be tough games. Glad they had some extra time to get healthy but as pointed out Saleh is dreadful coming off long layoffs.

Glad this week is home - should be a lot of energy to hopefully get a win - no matter how ugly

Denver looked good but Nix turns the ball over and at home they need to win that game. I agree it’s not going to be easy though.

 

[TLEF316]

Same as always with this franchise and this staff.

Had 10 days off to prepare for a rookie QB led team and just 100% crapped the bed. Bad conditions, but they were bad for everyone. Nix literally couldn't throw the ball in the first half.

Mental mistakes all over the place. Stupid penalties. Looked like Breece was shaving points out there.

Shame on this group for reading press clippings after beating a terrible Patriots team. And as usual, Saleh didnt have them ready to play coming off an extended break. Disgraceful.

 

[N Zone]

Jets need a better head coach. Rough loss there today.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Embarrassing.

 

[Crash Davis]

Brutal loss. Rodgers left a bunch of throws on the field and is now gimpy, the run blocking was pathetic, Breece and GW5 continue to underwhelm, penalties and mental mistakes continue to mount and now they have to go overseas to face a red hot Sam Darnold and the Vikings. No bueno.

 

[NYRAGE]

Yes, Rodgers and the o-line were bad, but it's simple: it's always been the coaching.

Every game we have a dozen penalties and no accountability. Ball on the 1 yard line and they don't hand it to their bruising RB. They design plays where the receivers all run to the same area or into each other. Through 4 games, Wilson has 150 yards. Way to utilize your weapons. Darnold, Geno, and Flacco are even looking good.

When told that Clueless Clown Saleh wants to dial back the cadence, even Rodgers said: or you can hold the players accountable. Never here.

Don't worry though. Saleh will "fix it" like always.

 

[sheerterror]

Could the stars be aligning for our first in season coaching change in (????) ?

 

[KingPrawn]

Could the stars be aligning for our first in season coaching change in (????) ?

Nathaniel Hackett waiting in the wings

 

[mphtrilogy]

tough to continue to care about this team, it is groundhog day time and time agan