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Commanders to hire Dan Quinn as head coach
The final head coaching vacancy in the NFL has been filled.
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This one interests me too.@Bri any info on Terrell Williams? The Lions hired him as their D-Line coach and run game coordinator.
Yeah I mentioned him earlier a few times. He's absolutely adored around the league and a big loss for the Titans.@Bri any info on Terrell Williams? The Lions hired him as their D-Line coach and run game coordinator.
As a Browns fan, I am deeply disappointed. As a Levis owner, I am intrigued.The Browns allowed Callahan to go coach with his son in Tennessee so their line should get a lot better
Yeah it's a tough one.As a Browns fan, I am deeply disappointed. As a Levis owner, I am intrigued.The Browns allowed Callahan to go coach with his son in Tennessee so their line should get a lot better
U Mass legendLiam Coen to be Bucs OC
The Titanic has left Southhampton docks.Kliff Kingsbury's agent withdrew his name from consideration
I have no idea if sincere or a negotiation tactic
Presumably real because now he is rumored to be the leading candidate for Commanders OCKliff Kingsbury's agent withdrew his name from consideration
I have no idea if sincere or a negotiation tactic
Can't help but wonder if he's been told they "might" be able to land Caleb.Presumably real because now he is rumored to be the leading candidate for Commanders OCKliff Kingsbury's agent withdrew his name from consideration
I have no idea if sincere or a negotiation tactic
Not sure why considering Lamar is about to win MVP.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
Say what? That would be thanks to Todd Monken.Not sure why considering Lamar is about to win MVP.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
Fair - this year it was Monken but Roman has to deserve some credit for helping groom Lamar to be a top notch QB. Have to think he’ll play to Herbert’s strengths.Say what? That would be thanks to Todd Monken.Not sure why considering Lamar is about to win MVP.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I don’t dislike Roman, but he’s really succeeded with running qbs and the run game. If he can get Herbert to run a lot, well that will be nice, but I am skeptical of that and I don’t think he is great with the pass game. We will see.
I'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
Question: Is there any data to back up my anecdotal observation that failed HCs who go back to being DCs tend to do well, but the ones who go back to being OCs do not?Washington makes it official:
OC- Kliff Kingsbury
DC- Joe Whitt, Jr
I think getting Whitt is a big time get, he’s been due for a shot at coordinator for awhile and he’ll be a great lieutenant for Quinn.
KK, man, I’m not sure what to think. He has experience, worked with a bunch of high profile young QBs, and is aggressive. That much I like. Also think he’s a bit of a live wire and sequencing play calls seems to be a weakness. Most important thing is how he will mesh with whichever QB we end up with of course. It’s so hard to dissect these guys, there’s so much we don’t know. Definitely like him better than Chip Kelly. Wanted Klint Kubiak but it’s not like I had some great read on him either. Ill keep an open mind for sure, will see.
Question: Is there any data to back up my anecdotal observation that failed HCs who go back to being DCs tend to do well, but the ones who go back to being OCs do not?Washington makes it official:
OC- Kliff Kingsbury
DC- Joe Whitt, Jr
I think getting Whitt is a big time get, he’s been due for a shot at coordinator for awhile and he’ll be a great lieutenant for Quinn.
KK, man, I’m not sure what to think. He has experience, worked with a bunch of high profile young QBs, and is aggressive. That much I like. Also think he’s a bit of a live wire and sequencing play calls seems to be a weakness. Most important thing is how he will mesh with whichever QB we end up with of course. It’s so hard to dissect these guys, there’s so much we don’t know. Definitely like him better than Chip Kelly. Wanted Klint Kubiak but it’s not like I had some great read on him either. Ill keep an open mind for sure, will see.
Off the top of my head:
DCs: Schwartz, Fangio, Flores, Frazier, Wade Phillips, Ray Rhodes*
OCs: Garrett, McAdoo, O'Brien, Nagy, McCoy, Haley
My hypothesis is that defensive-minded coaches tend to be the introvert type who are happy spending all their time scheming up blitz packages, while offensive-minded coaches (many of whom are former QBs) are more charismatic and have stronger leadership qualities. Therefore, when a defensive-minded coach fails, it's likely because of his people skills, but he can easily go back to thriving as a DC. But when an offensive-minded coach fails, it's because he was never a great schemer to begin with, so he's not going to be a great OC.
Obviously, there are exceptions, and the best coaches (McVay, Shanny, Reid) are brilliant schemers who also have strong leadership skills. But it just seems like on average, this difference exists. And doesn't bode well for Kingsbury.
* Matt Patricia doesn't count since he's been both an OC and a DC since leaving Detroit and sucked at both, so he cancels himself out
Yeah, I wasn't referring to Quinn. His is another former HC who succeeded as a DC, but I agree he seems different from the Schwartzes and Fangios of the world. I'm cautiously optimistic that he's not destined to be a lifelong DC, and that he'll improve on his performance in Atlanta.Question: Is there any data to back up my anecdotal observation that failed HCs who go back to being DCs tend to do well, but the ones who go back to being OCs do not?Washington makes it official:
OC- Kliff Kingsbury
DC- Joe Whitt, Jr
I think getting Whitt is a big time get, he’s been due for a shot at coordinator for awhile and he’ll be a great lieutenant for Quinn.
KK, man, I’m not sure what to think. He has experience, worked with a bunch of high profile young QBs, and is aggressive. That much I like. Also think he’s a bit of a live wire and sequencing play calls seems to be a weakness. Most important thing is how he will mesh with whichever QB we end up with of course. It’s so hard to dissect these guys, there’s so much we don’t know. Definitely like him better than Chip Kelly. Wanted Klint Kubiak but it’s not like I had some great read on him either. Ill keep an open mind for sure, will see.
Off the top of my head:
DCs: Schwartz, Fangio, Flores, Frazier, Wade Phillips, Ray Rhodes*
OCs: Garrett, McAdoo, O'Brien, Nagy, McCoy, Haley
My hypothesis is that defensive-minded coaches tend to be the introvert type who are happy spending all their time scheming up blitz packages, while offensive-minded coaches (many of whom are former QBs) are more charismatic and have stronger leadership qualities. Therefore, when a defensive-minded coach fails, it's likely because of his people skills, but he can easily go back to thriving as a DC. But when an offensive-minded coach fails, it's because he was never a great schemer to begin with, so he's not going to be a great OC.
Obviously, there are exceptions, and the best coaches (McVay, Shanny, Reid) are brilliant schemers who also have strong leadership skills. But it just seems like on average, this difference exists. And doesn't bode well for Kingsbury.
* Matt Patricia doesn't count since he's been both an OC and a DC since leaving Detroit and sucked at both, so he cancels himself out
I don’t have an opinion really but this theory wouldn’t apply to Quinn. He’s a charismatic leader type personality by all accounts. And a nugget I learned today is Quinn actually hired outside consultants to review his time coaching Atlanta to assess his strengths and weaknesses to help determine how things ended up poorly toward the end of his time there so he doesn’t repeat the same mistakes. I was pretty blown away by that. Not many HCs have that kind of humility and interest in self awareness. One of Riveras huge flaws was he never adapted or evolved and seemed completely unaware of it.
If your point is aimed at Kingsbury, maybe that shoe fits, but I’m not sure he was HC material to begin with. I’m curious to see how he does back in the league focused solely on running an offense and developing a rookie QB.
Looks like you are correct that Roman is not the OC, so that makes me feel a bit betterI'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I am a little worried for Herbert's fantasy value though. Imagine he'll be more efficient, might run more, but hard not to see less pass attempts in general, less 4th down attempts, maybe worsening weapons but that's TBD.
He in fact was hired as the OC.Looks like you are correct that Roman is not the OC, so that makes me feel a bit betterI'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I am a little worried for Herbert's fantasy value though. Imagine he'll be more efficient, might run more, but hard not to see less pass attempts in general, less 4th down attempts, maybe worsening weapons but that's TBD.
thanks a lot for getting my hopes up!He in fact was hired as the OC.Looks like you are correct that Roman is not the OC, so that makes me feel a bit betterI'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I am a little worried for Herbert's fantasy value though. Imagine he'll be more efficient, might run more, but hard not to see less pass attempts in general, less 4th down attempts, maybe worsening weapons but that's TBD.
As linebacker coach, with their former LB coach Anthony Campanile becoming the new Packers LB coach.
This QB whisperer is possibly inaccurate and he'll be proving it in Washington. After last year's super bowl, Hurts praised Alex Tanney. He explained in some detail different things he worked with him on. After their staff scattered around the league, lots of them praised Alex Tanney.Washington just snagged Brian Johnson, former OC of Eagles, to what is presumed to be a passing game coordinator role or perhaps QB coach.. More specifically though, he’s expected to be a QB whisperer. Really love this hire for whichever rookie QB they take and this is a nice reinforcement to Kingsbury in my view. Really solid staff coming together here IMO.
Sorry pal.thanks a lot for getting my hopes up!He in fact was hired as the OC.Looks like you are correct that Roman is not the OC, so that makes me feel a bit betterI'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I am a little worried for Herbert's fantasy value though. Imagine he'll be more efficient, might run more, but hard not to see less pass attempts in general, less 4th down attempts, maybe worsening weapons but that's TBD.
I'm pretty much unmoved on the Roman hire, was always a way Harbaugh is going to want his offense to work and that way was always going to be trying harder to establish a running game more then anything we've seen in Herbert's tenure.Sorry pal.thanks a lot for getting my hopes up!He in fact was hired as the OC.Looks like you are correct that Roman is not the OC, so that makes me feel a bit betterI'm ok with the hire for Herbert. They are not actually saying he's going to be hired as the OC so that part is TBD. My guess is Harbaugh's been out of the NFL awhile and likes having a trusted confidant on staff and someone else will be the OC.Looks like Greg Roman will be the OC for the chargers. Not sure I like that as a Herbert owner.
I am a little worried for Herbert's fantasy value though. Imagine he'll be more efficient, might run more, but hard not to see less pass attempts in general, less 4th down attempts, maybe worsening weapons but that's TBD.
Greg Roman is the suck. The Chargers will pass the ball less now and Roman is going to need a bunch of players to run his offense as well.
Zimmer to be Cowboys DC...was mentioned earlier