Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Go back and read Greg Cossel’s scouting report of him. This is just who he is and how he’s been. No yips, just not a great QB at throwing the ball.
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2024 Philadelphia Eagles - AJ’s book club read for next week: “Serenity Now” by Frank Costanza. (35 Viewers)
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Graham has been in this locker room for 15 years and has been a leader for most of that time. He’s no idiot. He must believe that there needs to be a push to get these guys to work their **** out. Again he was a witness to whatever bs happened that we can only guess at. I don’t agree with this method, but maybe the rip-the-bandaid plan is the right one? If anyone has insight it’s him.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Never, never, never air dirty laundry to the media. What was he thinking? He’s a leader. He should have just approached the 2 players directly about it and nip it in the bud. I can’t imagine how Hurts and Brown feel about him at this point.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
They must be livid with him. I would be.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
There is not a doubt in my mind that he's approached them many times before. You ever see the mic'd up videos with him? He has no problem talking **** and here in Philly he hosts a radio show the evening after every game. He wears his heart on his sleeve and speaks from the heart. He definitely has broached this subject with them-probably did last year as well. But he bit his tongue then and this time he's clearly not.
I'll hop in as a Steelers fan.
We had half a chance with Pickens, but not so much without - UNLESS you let the D and TO's control the outcome.
You can run on us, and with Barkely's speed gamebreakers will be there - but you better hold on to the ball.
You can throw on us - but don't miss and don't get cute.
And I would not sell out to stop Najee/Warren. Wilson can read a D and make plays still.
This and the Bills/Lions at 4 also - worth setting up 2 TV's.
(I've had Hurts 3 times, AJ twice, Elliot before Sirianni swore off FG's, and 2-3 of the pre-Barkely RB's. Took Chase over Barkely at 1:7)
I'd say enjoy - but like Steelers fans that's not a thing
. And somehow I'll be airborne while this game happens.
I'll hit yinz up after the late Sunday replay
We had half a chance with Pickens, but not so much without - UNLESS you let the D and TO's control the outcome.
You can run on us, and with Barkely's speed gamebreakers will be there - but you better hold on to the ball.
You can throw on us - but don't miss and don't get cute.
And I would not sell out to stop Najee/Warren. Wilson can read a D and make plays still.
This and the Bills/Lions at 4 also - worth setting up 2 TV's.
(I've had Hurts 3 times, AJ twice, Elliot before Sirianni swore off FG's, and 2-3 of the pre-Barkely RB's. Took Chase over Barkely at 1:7)
I'd say enjoy - but like Steelers fans that's not a thing
. And somehow I'll be airborne while this game happens.I'll hit yinz up after the late Sunday replay
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Yep. He wasn’t thinking and made a boneheaded move without thinking.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yep and if it works out he looks good and if not it paints AJ more in the wrong as it seems Hurts is at least trying to calm things againThis was my first thought. BG doesn't have to worry about how leaking this affects his future, so get it out in the open so it has to be addressed.Maybe he did it intentionally. Unintentional/intentional leak so they hash things out. I’ve seen this before in club soccer and most of the time it works. Or maybe BG us just fed up with the BS from certain playersGotta love it. Leave it to a veteran leader out for the season to stir the pot.
Didnt think about this. Smart
DJackson10
Footballguy
I don’t think it’s black and white as you paint. Those I talked too over the summer hinted at deeper issues with this team. No details but it seems the talent is good enough to hide the issues for only so long. Either guys need to act professional, Nick needs to take some control or at seasons end Howie should just rid the people who don’t want to play ball and act like part of a team. Easier said than done though.Maybe he did it intentionally. Unintentional/intentional leak so they hash things out. I’ve seen this before in club soccer and most of the time it works. Or maybe BG us just fed up with the BS from certain playersGotta love it. Leave it to a veteran leader out for the season to stir the pot.
I don’t see the upside to bringing it up to be hashed out. There’s a lot of guys on an NFL team and I’m sure many don’t get along. This is starting to move towards a “Jalen isn’t throwing to an open AJ cause they don’t like each other” and that’s not it. Hurts is just gonna miss reads or be late on them. It’s what he’s done before and after AJ got here. AJ being a competitor is gonna want the ball. It’s as simple as that.
DJackson10
Footballguy
This has been an issue for yrs now. He’s just not great at reading pre and post snap or diagnosing certain blitzes. That with his inconsistency is what’s going to prevent me or a lot of people really ever saying he’s up there with Burrow and Mahomes and even Herbert in the long run each season. It’s not a bad thing but people need to start looking at more favorable expectations of Hurts these days. His ceiling was that SB run MVP year probably won’t really ever match again.
Hurts is at least good QB and player when you go more realistic with the guy. He’s basically the same player as the guy opposite him this week in Wilson with less leadership and lockeroom flaws
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I'll hop in as a Steelers fan.
We had half a chance with Pickens, but not so much without - UNLESS you let the D and TO's control the outcome.
You can run on us, and with Barkely's speed gamebreakers will be there - but you better hold on to the ball.
You can throw on us - but don't miss and don't get cute.
And I would not sell out to stop Najee/Warren. Wilson can read a D and make plays still.
This and the Bills/Lions at 4 also - worth setting up 2 TV's.
(I've had Hurts 3 times, AJ twice, Elliot before Sirianni swore off FG's, and 2-3 of the pre-Barkely RB's. Took Chase over Barkely at 1:7)
I'd say enjoy - but like Steelers fans that's not a thing
I'll hit yinz up after the late Sunday replay
I suspect the Eagles may throw slightly more this game after all the Hurts/AJ drama this week. They need to find a happy balance between running and passing. I'd imagine they be around 27 pass attempts on Sunday.
I don't recall the Eagles selling out to stop the run in any games this year. They mostly use 4 man fronts and if they get gashed they may move to a 5 man front, but they're not going to load 8 in the box as the gameplan.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
A.J. Brown -- stats with #Eagles
Targets per game
2022 -- 8.5
2023 -- 9.3
2024 -- 6.6
Receptions per game
2022 -- 5.1
2023 -- 6.2
2024 -- 4.8
Receiving yards per game
2022 -- 88.0
2023 -- 85.6
2024 -- 83.6
Jalen Hurts passer rating targeting Brown
2022 -- 114.6
2023 -- 100.6
2024 -- 128.7
Targets per game
2022 -- 8.5
2023 -- 9.3
2024 -- 6.6
Receptions per game
2022 -- 5.1
2023 -- 6.2
2024 -- 4.8
Receiving yards per game
2022 -- 88.0
2023 -- 85.6
2024 -- 83.6
Jalen Hurts passer rating targeting Brown
2022 -- 114.6
2023 -- 100.6
2024 -- 128.7
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Deeper issues than having people dislike each other? This is getting juicy now!I don’t think it’s black and white as you paint. Those I talked too over the summer hinted at deeper issues with this team. No details but it seems the talent is good enough to hide the issues for only so long. Either guys need to act professional, Nick needs to take some control or at seasons end Howie should just rid the people who don’t want to play ball and act like part of a team. Easier said than done though.Maybe he did it intentionally. Unintentional/intentional leak so they hash things out. I’ve seen this before in club soccer and most of the time it works. Or maybe BG us just fed up with the BS from certain playersGotta love it. Leave it to a veteran leader out for the season to stir the pot.
I don’t see the upside to bringing it up to be hashed out. There’s a lot of guys on an NFL team and I’m sure many don’t get along. This is starting to move towards a “Jalen isn’t throwing to an open AJ cause they don’t like each other” and that’s not it. Hurts is just gonna miss reads or be late on them. It’s what he’s done before and after AJ got here. AJ being a competitor is gonna want the ball. It’s as simple as that.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This is nuts
Terpman22
Footballguy
And that win didn't even count b/c it wasn't in the Super Bowl era!
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Only 10 games though.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
The win didn't count for what? A win is a win. Do we not count wins/losses from 1933 on?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
10 in a row is a lot! Pittsburgh has had some good teams since 1965.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Haha sort of an inside joke referencing the '48, '49 and 1960 championship teams (the only team to ever beat Lombardi in a playoff game) and the fact most rival fans do not acknowledge them bc "not Super Bowls" despite that Super Bowl trophy being named after that guy our team was the only one to ever beat in the playoffs
But I digress
Should be a tight game this Sunday!
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
So A.J. Brown just said:
- Him and Hurts are good
- Brandon Graham misspoke and was being emotional
- The “passing” comment on Sunday wasn’t directed at Hurts but the passing game in general
- He’s fine with a heavy run game and wants to win a Super Bowl
- Him and Hurts are good
- Brandon Graham misspoke and was being emotional
- The “passing” comment on Sunday wasn’t directed at Hurts but the passing game in general
- He’s fine with a heavy run game and wants to win a Super Bowl
Terpman22
Footballguy
What a diva
DJackson10
Footballguy
I stopped right before Andy was let go here. I realized at least in Philly our sports radio sucks. WFAN I’ll listen to on Satelite when I have time and for the most part those guys have actual convos plus as much as I like football it was nice a few yrs ago listening to them talk about the World Cup and giving it a serious 15-20 mins section plus other things.
With Philly radio it’s all about hot takes and half these guys don’t know ****. The former players also seem to talk down to anyone who doesn’t agree with them and the host.
I listened to Josh Innes when he was here from time to time with Tony Bruno when I could. And that’s the last time I gave it any thought.
It’s all clickbait and bs and when you get a rare caller who tries to be serious and knows their stuff, the host talks over them if they disagree, hangs up and then they and the next caller have a 3 mins circle jerk how the past caller sucks.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah it seems like certain guys went rogue on coaching staff, more about themselves and other things. Then you had all the Hurts stuff but unfortunately many Klutch clients do too much to appease their agents and I think Hurts needed to find a happy balance of Football/teammate and time spent doing his stuff for Klutch if that makes sense. Like certain vets seemed to think Hurts new deal changed him and didn’t seem to care as much about the team. But again I think Hurts was trying to balance the new found fame and there were convos with the vets about it. Kelce also took time to give him some pointers over the off season despite being retired.Deeper issues than having people dislike each other? This is getting juicy now!I don’t think it’s black and white as you paint. Those I talked too over the summer hinted at deeper issues with this team. No details but it seems the talent is good enough to hide the issues for only so long. Either guys need to act professional, Nick needs to take some control or at seasons end Howie should just rid the people who don’t want to play ball and act like part of a team. Easier said than done though.Maybe he did it intentionally. Unintentional/intentional leak so they hash things out. I’ve seen this before in club soccer and most of the time it works. Or maybe BG us just fed up with the BS from certain playersGotta love it. Leave it to a veteran leader out for the season to stir the pot.
I don’t see the upside to bringing it up to be hashed out. There’s a lot of guys on an NFL team and I’m sure many don’t get along. This is starting to move towards a “Jalen isn’t throwing to an open AJ cause they don’t like each other” and that’s not it. Hurts is just gonna miss reads or be late on them. It’s what he’s done before and after AJ got here. AJ being a competitor is gonna want the ball. It’s as simple as that.
So there is stuff that was cleared up in the offseason but obviously there was a lot and couldn’t be fixed in one offseason. It’s still a consistently flowing process being worked on. Obviously this seems like one of those issues (hurts/brown) that’s going to take some time to figure out.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah last time we played them Here Wentz and company killed them. Still remember that big play Wentz had to Sproles that went for a TD.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Sounds like the PR team/agent texted him key words to say honestly.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I remember that game. It was ugly.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I was at that game.
DJackson10
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
There’s a rumor that the Eagles are selling a part of the team to raise money for a new stadium - potentially with a retractable roof. The Eagles could host Super Bowls, Final Fours, and other big events
unckeyherb
Footballguy
This has been in the works for awhile. I have some industry insight into this. While the link is a nice stadium it is completely obsolete from a big dollar profit generation standpoint. It’s lacking in the uber-luxury super-expensive club box levels that the newer stadiums all have. The trend is to go more expensive across the board but to really push the envelope when it comes to the wealthy boxes.
That and the lack of a dome precludes them from ever hosting a Super Bowl. I’ve believed from the moment that we were tapped to open the season in Brazil that Lurie conceded to that for a guarantee that they’d get a Super Bowl the minute they build a new stadium. That time is quickly approaching.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
My son's business is in talks with the Eagles for a business partnership so hopefully, I'll get to attend a game in one of those new luxury boxes.
jasvic
Footballguy
They had that one Super Bowl up in the swamp several years back, but I honestly don't remember how the league said it went. Was that a failed experiment?
Terpman22
Footballguy
Jalen's and Nick's presser's yesterday were PR magic.
Man do I LOVE Jalen Hurts, he always is good for a couple nice one liners.
When asked about the joy of winning and balancing out "the standard" aka passing game being down
"Depends on the person and their definition of joy" aka - he loves winning more than anything.
My favorite one though, going 3rd person:
"Its gonna look how Jalen Hurts want it to look, you know, but, he's going to win games"
AJ was all smiles talking to the press.
Maybe BG DID know what he was doing after all, I think we work our internal giant.
Man do I LOVE Jalen Hurts, he always is good for a couple nice one liners.
When asked about the joy of winning and balancing out "the standard" aka passing game being down
"Depends on the person and their definition of joy" aka - he loves winning more than anything.
My favorite one though, going 3rd person:
"Its gonna look how Jalen Hurts want it to look, you know, but, he's going to win games"
AJ was all smiles talking to the press.
Maybe BG DID know what he was doing after all, I think we work our internal giant.
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
My recollection to that was in the days leading up to the game, there was potentially going to be snow at game time. It ended up not happening but I think the agita it caused probably convinced them to not roll the dice again.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Landon Dickerson also set the record straight with Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, and the offense:
“We’re on the same page. I don’t know what y’all like to construe up and write, but we’re all on the same page here.
"I know being Plain Jane doesn’t really sell stories."
“We’re on the same page. I don’t know what y’all like to construe up and write, but we’re all on the same page here.
"I know being Plain Jane doesn’t really sell stories."
Terpman22
Footballguy
The fire is lit man. At the beginning of the week I was thinking "ooo tight game" but now that we see most likely no Pickens, it seems the team is pissed off and focused right now. I'm leaning more to this game potentially being a blowout with what I saw from the entire team yesterday, I watched as many live interactions as I could and they are in lock step.
need2know
Footballguy
this has seemed like mostly BS imo
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I was calling for a blowout even before this. This is going to be a statement game from the O.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Right. The question ESP asked him was, “what offensively can improve?” He’s not gonna say the run game, lol.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
He knew what he was doing, it was a shot at Hurts that he could walk back.
Terpman22
Footballguy
You gotta figure when it’s all said and done he will have coached at least 2 HOF offensive lineman (Lane + Kelce) and if he sticks around 5-8 more years, if Mailata continues the path he is on, Landon as well + potentially the NFL rushing record. Lotta bullet points for the argument to be cemented. The story of Mailata alone is stuff of legend.Jeff Stoutland was featured in NFL Films which aired last night. I hope this guy makes the HOF.
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The Noid
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And the Eagles have never beaten Russell Wilson. He's 5-0 against us. So, one of those streaks will end on Sunday.
jon007
Footballguy
This will be wild.
Hurts gets first win in Cincinnati, first win in Baltimore, first win against Wilson and if we win out the Eagles as an organization all-time will be above .500.
Terpman22
Footballguy
And set a new longest winning streak in the process while breaking the all time rushing record en route to a Super Bowl Victory*
*TBD
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
There’s no way you can listen to the clip (don’t read it) and come to that conclusion or you’re exactly the guy Dickerson is talking about.
Are we the only fan base who deal with these soap opera dramas and keeps falling for them? Lol
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I listened to the clip, AJB is a seasoned veteran who has dealt with the media for years. He said what he said, because he was taking shot a Hurts but left it vague enough so that he could do what he did a couple days later and walk it back. The only thing he didn't count on was BG saying what he said, which was to validate the position that AJB was taking a shot at Hurts and their relationship was changed. This required the Eagles leadership to step in. So everything said after what BG said on Monday was just polished by the PR team. It was actually brilliant by BG, because he didn't let AJ get away with the comment without forcing him to have to deal with his frustrations face-to-face.
But, now here we are with the stepford fans trying to gaslight people, even though they know, who/what AJ was talking about when he said "passing." Unless you really think, we're supposed to believe that he meant the OL needs to block better or the WRs need to get open more or the coaches need to call better plays. If you do, I got some great oceanfront property to sell you in Kansas. LOL!
Terpman22
Footballguy
The best part about it all is Jalen is a sociopath. He actually was smiling a lot at that presser, so I think we really are about to see some fireworks come Sunday man one way or another.
AJ can take subtle shots or direct shots and Jalen is still going to look like the mIchael myers mask and have zero emotion. He's just a different dude its really funny how nothing really seems to rattle him ever.
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