2024 Philadelphia Eagles - No matter how you massage it, Eagles need to soundly defeat the Browns. (4 Viewers)

[ChiefD]

Siranni should be gone. Dude brings nothing to the table. Nothing.

He's good at screaming at the fans while in the tunnel where they can't hear him after a big win on the road!

Sensitive much? Why can fans scream at players but go forbid a coach/player gives it back fans get their panties all in a bunch?

I don't care that he did it. I just think it's chickensheeeeit to do it in a tunnel where nobody but a camera can see you.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I see that we're all sunshine and puppy dogs in here. Can't imagine what WIP is like today. (I mean, I can, but it's probably like three times worse than that.)

 

[Faust]

Five Takeaways on the Eagles’ Meltdown Against the Falcons

 

[Insein]

I see that we're all sunshine and puppy dogs in here. Can't imagine what WIP is like today. (I mean, I can, but it's probably like three times worse than that.)

Not listening. Can't turn it on during loss weeks. Worst takes imaginable but unfortunately some of them may be right this week.

 

[modogg]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

 

[Snotbubbles]

Siranni should be gone. Dude brings nothing to the table. Nothing.

He's good at screaming at the fans while in the tunnel where they can't hear him after a big win on the road!

Sensitive much? Why can fans scream at players but go forbid a coach/player gives it back fans get their panties all in a bunch?

I don't care that he did it. I just think it's chickensheeeeit to do it in a tunnel where nobody but a camera can see you.

Yet here you are posting about it.

 

[DJackson10]

Siranni should be gone. Dude brings nothing to the table. Nothing.

He's good at screaming at the fans while in the tunnel where they can't hear him after a big win on the road!

Sensitive much? Why can fans scream at players but go forbid a coach/player gives it back fans get their panties all in a bunch?

I don't care that he did it. I just think it's chickensheeeeit to do it in a tunnel where nobody but a camera can see you.

Yet here you are posting about it.

Honestly think it’s more chickenshit fans can act and do what they want to athletes as they know they don’t have consequences and aren’t hiding behind barriers. Half these fans have beer muscles and keyboard warriors and wouldn’t say most of the crap they do to a players face on the street.

 

[ChiefD]

Siranni should be gone. Dude brings nothing to the table. Nothing.

He's good at screaming at the fans while in the tunnel where they can't hear him after a big win on the road!

Sensitive much? Why can fans scream at players but go forbid a coach/player gives it back fans get their panties all in a bunch?

I don't care that he did it. I just think it's chickensheeeeit to do it in a tunnel where nobody but a camera can see you.

Yet here you are posting about it.

You know, that's a good point. I'll rephrase:

I do care that your coach is a chickensheeeit for screaming in a tunnel where nobody but a camera can see you.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

The board has been doing that with all YouTube links for like a month or so

Also: cliffs notes on what could make you feel better? No matter how good atl might have been or what other random things might have happened, it’s a terrible job to give up a TD in that situation

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Spread against the Saints has moved to Eagles +2.5. I'm in for a half unit. Wonder if it will move more with the narratives around these teams.

There is 0.000001% chance that the Eagles hang within 2.5 points of New Orleans. If I was a betting man, I would bet BIGly on this.

I get why you feel that way. I see a lot of solvable problems on that Philly team, but not sure they have the coaches to do it. I lean against the idea that a new scheme has turned New Orleans (Carr) into an offensive juggernaut. Might have to blitz them though, not a Fangio strength.

Probably not the right thread to post about this in. Was just reading along as I was trying to find games to target next weekend.

The loss is still too fresh for me to have any kind of perspective.

The Defense doesn’t look solvable to me. Nobody is capable of generating pressure in the pass rush and Fangio is constitutionally incapable of blitzing.

The run D is even worse. I think some of it is scheme and might be fixable, but this scheme, with this level of talent is a mismatch and will be until they get talent. Jordan Davis’ sole job is to be a big, run-stuffing NT. He does not do his job very well. And the run fits called are apparently too complicated for the rest of the D. Red Zone and short yardage, they’re ok. Between the 20s, they give up yards in chunks.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't recall hearing Trotter Jr's name called out all game. Did he even play?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And now you all have to take on a. red hot New Orleans team in the Dome
1 and 2 is a possibility, this game will likely be back and forth throughout
Fangio's D not exactly taking off so far

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't recall hearing Trotter Jr's name called out all game. Did he even play?

He did play a couple snaps, unlike Week 1. I didn’t notice him on the field, though. Might’ve just been Special Teams

 

[DJackson10]

Spread against the Saints has moved to Eagles +2.5. I'm in for a half unit. Wonder if it will move more with the narratives around these teams.

There is 0.000001% chance that the Eagles hang within 2.5 points of New Orleans. If I was a betting man, I would bet BIGly on this.

I get why you feel that way. I see a lot of solvable problems on that Philly team, but not sure they have the coaches to do it. I lean against the idea that a new scheme has turned New Orleans (Carr) into an offensive juggernaut. Might have to blitz them though, not a Fangio strength.

Probably not the right thread to post about this in. Was just reading along as I was trying to find games to target next weekend.

The loss is still too fresh for me to have any kind of perspective.

The Defense doesn’t look solvable to me. Nobody is capable of generating pressure in the pass rush and Fangio is constitutionally incapable of blitzing.

The run D is even worse. I think some of it is scheme and might be fixable, but this scheme, with this level of talent is a mismatch and will be until they get talent. Jordan Davis’ sole job is to be a big, run-stuffing NT. He does not do his job very well. And the run fits called are apparently too complicated for the rest of the D. Red Zone and short yardage, they’re ok. Between the 20s, they give up yards in chunks.

The scheme sucks and doesn’t have the player personnel to run 3-4. Go to a hybrid D and put players in position to succeed. This is the old any Ried trying to a fit a square peg in a round hole

 

[JAA]

In Howie I trust

Who can we target in trade to fix our pass rush?

I’m speculating that Reddick is out as we would have signed him long term if we could have. I doubt much has changed.

I’ve read Azeez Ojulari has fallen out of favor in NYG, but that seems like depth over actual strength.

What are folks thoughts on targets to fix out horrific pass rush?

 

[unckeyherb]

Apparently Jalen Carter did not start due to being late to a team function. This season is really starting to give #Dreamteam vibes.

Also, as an aside, I am now convinced that Jalen and Goedert are never going to be on the same page. I'd bet a dollar that Dallas will be on another team after next year. No way he comes back to a team that seems determined to NOT use him in the passing game generally and around the red zone specifically.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

No way he comes back to a team that seems determined to NOT use him in the passing game generally and around the red zone specifically.

Right? It’s hard to understand

 

[need2know]

Apparently Jalen Carter did not start due to being late to a team function. This season is really starting to give #Dreamteam vibes.

Also, as an aside, I am now convinced that Jalen and Goedert are never going to be on the same page. I'd bet a dollar that Dallas will be on another team after next year. No way he comes back to a team that seems determined to NOT use him in the passing game generally and around the red zone specifically.

forget he even plays for the eagles sometimes

 

[modogg]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

The board has been doing that with all YouTube links for like a month or so

Also: cliffs notes on what could make you feel better? No matter how good atl might have been or what other random things might have happened, it’s a terrible job to give up a TD in that situation

i was happy to know that it seemed less on Fangio. The DL was given different stunts and other stuff, and they just weren't clicking. so potentially this will get better with more adjustment to Fangio's defense

 

[Snotbubbles]

Spread against the Saints has moved to Eagles +2.5. I'm in for a half unit. Wonder if it will move more with the narratives around these teams.

There is 0.000001% chance that the Eagles hang within 2.5 points of New Orleans. If I was a betting man, I would bet BIGly on this.

I get why you feel that way. I see a lot of solvable problems on that Philly team, but not sure they have the coaches to do it. I lean against the idea that a new scheme has turned New Orleans (Carr) into an offensive juggernaut. Might have to blitz them though, not a Fangio strength.

Probably not the right thread to post about this in. Was just reading along as I was trying to find games to target next weekend.

The loss is still too fresh for me to have any kind of perspective.

The Defense doesn’t look solvable to me. Nobody is capable of generating pressure in the pass rush and Fangio is constitutionally incapable of blitzing.

The run D is even worse. I think some of it is scheme and might be fixable, but this scheme, with this level of talent is a mismatch and will be until they get talent. Jordan Davis’ sole job is to be a big, run-stuffing NT. He does not do his job very well. And the run fits called are apparently too complicated for the rest of the D. Red Zone and short yardage, they’re ok. Between the 20s, they give up yards in chunks.

The scheme sucks and doesn’t have the player personnel to run 3-4. Go to a hybrid D and put players in position to succeed. This is the old any Ried trying to a fit a square peg in a round hole

At least Sirianni didn't promote Stoutland to DC.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Apparently Jalen Carter did not start due to being late to a team function. This season is really starting to give #Dreamteam vibes.

Also, as an aside, I am now convinced that Jalen and Goedert are never going to be on the same page. I'd bet a dollar that Dallas will be on another team after next year. No way he comes back to a team that seems determined to NOT use him in the passing game generally and around the red zone specifically.

forget he even plays for the eagles sometimes

He's signed for next season, but the following season he'll be the same age as Ertz was when the Eagles moved on from him,

 

[DJackson10]

Spread against the Saints has moved to Eagles +2.5. I'm in for a half unit. Wonder if it will move more with the narratives around these teams.

There is 0.000001% chance that the Eagles hang within 2.5 points of New Orleans. If I was a betting man, I would bet BIGly on this.

I get why you feel that way. I see a lot of solvable problems on that Philly team, but not sure they have the coaches to do it. I lean against the idea that a new scheme has turned New Orleans (Carr) into an offensive juggernaut. Might have to blitz them though, not a Fangio strength.

Probably not the right thread to post about this in. Was just reading along as I was trying to find games to target next weekend.

The loss is still too fresh for me to have any kind of perspective.

The Defense doesn’t look solvable to me. Nobody is capable of generating pressure in the pass rush and Fangio is constitutionally incapable of blitzing.

The run D is even worse. I think some of it is scheme and might be fixable, but this scheme, with this level of talent is a mismatch and will be until they get talent. Jordan Davis’ sole job is to be a big, run-stuffing NT. He does not do his job very well. And the run fits called are apparently too complicated for the rest of the D. Red Zone and short yardage, they’re ok. Between the 20s, they give up yards in chunks.

The scheme sucks and doesn’t have the player personnel to run 3-4. Go to a hybrid D and put players in position to succeed. This is the old any Ried trying to a fit a square peg in a round hole

At least Sirianni didn't promote Stoutland to DC.

Yeah my biggest issue is this guy scheme hasn’t worked in yrs. Never seemed to adjust it to the new nfl. I wanted to see a more young hungary a bit more aggressive DC and was hoping they hired Hafley from BC who GB hired.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

I don't know why, as I shouldn't be due to the proven fickle nature of Eagles fans in general but, I'm a little surprised by the amount of doom & gloom posts I'm reading in this thread after only two weeks of mediocre play. Yes, mediocre. There have been instances of terrible play, I'll admit of course, the majority of which happened two nights ago. Overall though I believe it's been a swamp of mediocrity.

I'm just not ready to sink to gloom & doom levels of criticism yet. I prefer to maintain a positive attitude with a dash or two of specific concerns. I believe these issues/concerns are completely fixable and require a bit more time to iron out. The concerns I have mostly mirror those I've seen here the last couple days. Lack of a serious pass rush. Limited to non-existant blitz packages. That atrocious "prevent" defensive scheme in the final 1:30 Monday night. I fully believe, as posted prior, prevent defenses only prevent winning. The rookies in the defensive backfield will make mistakes at times. I'm okay with that at this point in the season.

I'm older and my brain works a little oddly at times. I kind of viewed the Green Bay game as their fourth pre-season game. With the ten day break the Falcons game felt like the real start of the regular season. These players do not get enough time for training camp. All the physical contact restrictions, while well intentioned, don't really do them any favors when it comes to being in game shape when camp breaks.

I saw some positives on Monday night. I had zero issues or complaints about foregoing that early FG and going for a 1st on that 4th down play deep in Falcons territory. Success would have nearly assured a TD and failure buried the Falcons deep, again. Hurts seems to be doing well reading defenses at the line of scrimmage. This is something I considered a question mark entering this season, due to the departure of Kelce. The offense line appears to have things under control. Aside from a few "illegal man downfield" penalties, they've come together really well considering the loss of Kelce and the addition of Becton. Hurts enjoyed a clean pocket for the vast majority of drop-backs two nights ago. The run game was dominant when Moore didn't abandon it. Special teams are great. Elliott is an elite FG kicker and Mann handling kick-offs and ball placements on FG's allows Elliott to focus strictly on kicking FG's. Mann is a very, very capable punter too.

AJ Brown being absent for a few weeks of play obviously doesn't help but, I'd much rather deal with his hamstring issue now rather than later in the season. This offense will not ground to a halt without him and it'll be so much better when he returns. I agree, Goedert needs to be more involved while Brown is healing and after he returns.

In Howie I trust. If he's made a bad move or two, he'll admit it, move on and attempt to fix it. Not every move will pan out. I think he's rather quick to make attempts to fix mistakes. I'm not ready to throw Sirianni under the bus yet either. I didn't place as much blame on him for last years collapse as most of you guys so his leash is much longer to me. I feel his success and winning record overall in his three years prior permits him some (limited) leeway and affords him some more time to bring this team together. I also believe Lurie won't pull the trigger mid-season and he'll give him the entire season, including the post-season, to rectify this teams shortcomings.

I still believe this team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

 

[Desert_Power]

In Howie I trust. If he's made a bad move or two, he'll admit it, move on and attempt to fix it.

A key point. Cannot see Howie letting this defense continue to look this bad.

Good post overall. As a non-Eagles fan, my evaluation of the last two weeks is similar. Biggest worry is that the defensive scheme isn't right for the personnel nor has it seemed to work at any of Fangio's recent stops. I expect Kellen and Jalen to figure out the offense. Saquon is going to be a joy to watch in this offense in 24. Things are never as good or as bad as they seem.

 

[jasvic]

I still believe this team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

I don't think this defense can be fixed and without that they aren't going far. There's alleged talent on the d-line, but it's not translating to the game. They're getting absolutely annihilated in the run game and no one is able to create pressure. Huff was supposed to be the one dimensional pass rusher, but he's been awful. Getting manhandled by tight ends and showing zero effort/hustle. Starting to worry he got his mega deal and gave up. There is no magic fix Howie can make. The d-line needs to step up and play.

 

[renesauz]

Saquon should have caught the ball. It was a good play.

That being said, with it 3rd and 3, deeping the opponents territory with them having no time outs and less than a minute left.....the first thing you don't want to do is turn the ball over. The second thing you want to do is use the clock as a weapon against your opponent. Run the ball and get a first and the game is over. If you don't get the first, you've used up most of the clock. You can then line up with the Brotherly Shove and maybe try to draw them offsides. If you do, the game is over. If you don't, call a timeout and then you have the option of kicking the FG or going for the Brotherly Shove.

Saquon should have caught the ball.....but a pass to Saquon should have never been on an option.

strongly disagree. Saquan wasnt getting 4 yards on that stacked box and a short field. And it was 90+ seconds, not under a minute. Had they just ran as you suggested there still would have been nearly a full minute left....and that would have been more then enough with the way the Defense played at the end.
The play call was a VERY SAFE call. If Saquon was covered Hurts was running but Saquon wasn't covered...it was an easy completion for an easy First down and a game over. Was a good call well executed by Hurts. Barkley has to catch a lob pass in that scenario, he has to.
Easier to argue about going for it early in the game. I was ok with it, didnt love it. That was a full 4 yards....not exactly a given. Wasn't upset they tried but might have been happier had they kicked it

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think Sirianni is just too emotional to be boring. We’ve seen it in years past with his refusal to run and it showed up again today.

You have to kick the FG there. It’s a no brainer.

Sirianni on what analytics chart suggested for the 4th down call :

"My chart, what I say to do, is to kick it... There's about 20 websites that you can punch in a number...y'all can see that. But I base it off of what my studies have been and my conviction of my studies."

 

[Bigboy10182000]

strongly disagree. Saquan wasnt getting 4 yards on that stacked box and a short field. And it was 90+ seconds, not under a minute. Had they just ran as you suggested there still would have been nearly a full minute left....and that would have been more then enough with the way the Defense played at the end.
The play call was a VERY SAFE call.

I’m pretty sure it was 3rd and an actual 3. Also, just because they stack the box doesn’t mean we can’t (and in this case did) stack the line ourselves. I’d like to believe our OL can win enough to get 2-3 yards and either pick up the first down or put it in tush push range. After the play and 40 seconds runs out they’re left with one minute exactly.

The right play is to run it there and trust your guys and take 40 off the clock. The risk we took is exactly what happened on a play like this.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Biggest worry is that the defensive scheme isn't right for the personnel nor has it seemed to work at any of Fangio's recent stops.

Prior to injuries his defense was very good in Miami IIRC. I also think where our talent is absolutely fits his scheme. The DL just has to win more. I have no idea what Sweat and Huff are now either. We also need Carter to take a step forward.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I think Sirianni is just too emotional to be boring. We’ve seen it in years past with his refusal to run and it showed up again today.

You have to kick the FG there. It’s a no brainer.

Sirianni on what analytics chart suggested for the 4th down call :

"My chart, what I say to do, is to kick it... There's about 20 websites that you can punch in a number...y'all can see that. But I base it off of what my studies have been and my conviction of my studies."

Old laugh emoji

 

[DJackson10]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

His decision making has gone backwards the last year or so. And yeah need more then those kind of passing numbers with what we paid him against ATL.

 

[DJackson10]

I think Sirianni is just too emotional to be boring. We’ve seen it in years past with his refusal to run and it showed up again today.

You have to kick the FG there. It’s a no brainer.

Sirianni on what analytics chart suggested for the 4th down call :

"My chart, what I say to do, is to kick it... There's about 20 websites that you can punch in a number...y'all can see that. But I base it off of what my studies have been and my conviction of my studies."

This is just fireablle at this point. If it’s not fixed by the bye week or showing signs of progress he’s gone imho

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I think Sirianni is just too emotional to be boring. We’ve seen it in years past with his refusal to run and it showed up again today.

You have to kick the FG there. It’s a no brainer.

Sirianni on what analytics chart suggested for the 4th down call :

"My chart, what I say to do, is to kick it... There's about 20 websites that you can punch in a number...y'all can see that. But I base it off of what my studies have been and my conviction of my studies."

x.com

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[need2know]

I think Sirianni is just too emotional to be boring. We’ve seen it in years past with his refusal to run and it showed up again today.

You have to kick the FG there. It’s a no brainer.

Sirianni on what analytics chart suggested for the 4th down call :

"My chart, what I say to do, is to kick it... There's about 20 websites that you can punch in a number...y'all can see that. But I base it off of what my studies have been and my conviction of my studies."

Sounds like an idiot

 

[unckeyherb]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

To be fair, Kellen said in his presser that that play was what he called. He said they were looking to go deep there. Fwiw.

Agree it was a dumb call, but that wasn’t Jalen being a hero. That was exactly what was dialed up up by the OC

 

[unckeyherb]

These next two games are pivotal.

Remember, at this point in 2017, we were 1-1, just coming off a brutal loss in KC where we basically never ran the ball. People were loudly calling for Doug to be fired and the following week we needed a 61 yard moonshot from Elliot as time expired to beat a terrible Giants team. The rest, as they say is history. It’s early enough in the season to right the ship-it’s been done before by this franchise.

That being said, if we go down to NO and get our doors blown off then I think it’s plausible that Sirriani will be coaching for his job. A following loss in TB could mean interim-head-coach-Kellen-Moore time in Philly followed by the Bellicheck 2.0 era starting up in 2025

 

[JAA]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

The board has been doing that with all YouTube links for like a month or so

Also: cliffs notes on what could make you feel better? No matter how good atl might have been or what other random things might have happened, it’s a terrible job to give up a TD in that situation

i was happy to know that it seemed less on Fangio. The DL was given different stunts and other stuff, and they just weren't clicking. so potentially this will get better with more adjustment to Fangio's defense

Everything I have read about Fangio is that he is a legit DC with a strong pedigree. I cannot think of a reason 2 games into the season why all of a sudden he is the problem.

 

[JAA]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

Agree here

I think the worst play of the game was Hurts INT to close out the loss. So preventable and unnecessary. A pretty lazy decision.

 

[JAA]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

To be fair, Kellen said in his presser that that play was what he called. He said they were looking to go deep there. Fwiw.

Agree it was a dumb call, but that wasn’t Jalen being a hero. That was exactly what was dialed up up by the OC

No

Throwing under pressure off your back-foot into triple coverage was not dialed up.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

The board has been doing that with all YouTube links for like a month or so

Also: cliffs notes on what could make you feel better? No matter how good atl might have been or what other random things might have happened, it’s a terrible job to give up a TD in that situation

i was happy to know that it seemed less on Fangio. The DL was given different stunts and other stuff, and they just weren't clicking. so potentially this will get better with more adjustment to Fangio's defense

Everything I have read about Fangio is that he is a legit DC with a strong pedigree. I cannot think of a reason 2 games into the season why all of a sudden he is the problem.

Iirc, the Dolphins fans here were not sad to see him go fwiw

 

[unckeyherb]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

To be fair, Kellen said in his presser that that play was what he called. He said they were looking to go deep there. Fwiw.

Agree it was a dumb call, but that wasn’t Jalen being a hero. That was exactly what was dialed up up by the OC

No

Throwing under pressure off your back-foot into triple coverage was not dialed up.

I don't know what to tell you. Throwing that deep route was the play call. Sirriani was asked about it. Jalen probably shouldn't have made that throw under the circumstances, but it's not like it was some kind of back of hand, playground call like in the Seattle game to AJ last year, with Jalen going off script.

It makes me wonder (and I think I know the answer) does Nick being the head coach have the authority to jump in on a call like that and override Moore? I would guess no.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

It makes me wonder (and I think I know the answer) does Nick being the head coach have the authority to jump in on a call like that and override Moore? I would guess no.

Or Nick agreed with the call. I respect what they’re saying, however, it’s rare for a QB to have a single read in a situation like this. Also, that route is never there. Toss the ball over Saquan’s head and regroup.

 

[JAA]

It makes me wonder (and I think I know the answer) does Nick being the head coach have the authority to jump in on a call like that and override Moore? I would guess no.

Or Nick agreed with the call. I respect what they’re saying, however, it’s rare for a QB to have a single read in a situation like this. Also, that route is never there. Toss the ball over Saquan’s head and regroup.

Exactly. This does not need to be forced. No coach ever says "Just throw it into deep coverage"

It was an amateur decision by Jalen and he should know better.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

i miss Doug.

 

[Insein]

i miss Doug.

We'd be doing the same thing with him. Look at Jax.

 

[need2know]

And to be fair, I expect my 255 million dollar QB to do a lot better than 183 yards passing against a team like Atlanta. Theres enough talent on that side of the ball for him to do a LOT better than that. The pass at the end of the game is something I’d expect from a rookie. We didn’t need that much to get into range and the hero ball needs to stop. Be ok being boring.

To be fair, Kellen said in his presser that that play was what he called. He said they were looking to go deep there. Fwiw.

Agree it was a dumb call, but that wasn’t Jalen being a hero. That was exactly what was dialed up up by the OC

No it was a dumb call by moore

 

[need2know]

i miss Doug.

We'd be doing the same thing with him. Look at Jax.

We would be worse. Prob still starting carson wentz

 

[G-King]

Fran Duffy really does a nice job of breaking down the games after watching it back. I feel a little bit better about that last Atl drive after hearing his thoughts on how it played out:

- YouTube

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

www.youtube.com

(it's in the beginning like from 35 second to like 10 minutes or so.

ETA: lol, woah. Am I watching youtube in German or something? that link looks pretty funny. i clicked on it from the post and it goes to the right spot so all safe (I think)

The board has been doing that with all YouTube links for like a month or so

Also: cliffs notes on what could make you feel better? No matter how good atl might have been or what other random things might have happened, it’s a terrible job to give up a TD in that situation

i was happy to know that it seemed less on Fangio. The DL was given different stunts and other stuff, and they just weren't clicking. so potentially this will get better with more adjustment to Fangio's defense

Everything I have read about Fangio is that he is a legit DC with a strong pedigree. I cannot think of a reason 2 games into the season why all of a sudden he is the problem.

Iirc, the Dolphins fans here were not sad to see him go fwiw

Nor were the Cowboy fans sad to see Kellen Moore hired. Some of those decisions have to be put on him.

 

[Saint]

i miss Doug.

We'd be doing the same thing with him. Look at Jax.

We would be worse. Prob still starting carson wentz

As I recall, Doug made the call to bench Wentz.