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2024 Philadelphia Eagles - No way Sirianni makes it through the bye, right? (5 Viewers)

ProstheticRGK said:
Pip's Invitation said:
Would Belichick come here given Lurie and Howie's need for control? Would Lurie and Howie want him?
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He seems like a bad fit to me. But rumors have been swirling about the courtship in the off-season.

And Bill has been very, very complimentary about Lurie and Howie, publically.
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No one wants Bill it’s just that bill had a buddy of his from the Boston press run a pr campaign to get some run for him. He’s too old for the things he wants and if things don’t go well at first it’ll end up another chip Kelly situation. Lurie isn’t giving a coach that amount of control anymore
 
DJackson10 said:
ProstheticRGK said:
Pip's Invitation said:
Would Belichick come here given Lurie and Howie's need for control? Would Lurie and Howie want him?
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He seems like a bad fit to me. But rumors have been swirling about the courtship in the off-season.

And Bill has been very, very complimentary about Lurie and Howie, publically.
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No one wants Bill it’s just that bill had a buddy of his from the Boston press run a pr campaign to get some run for him. He’s too old for the things he wants and if things don’t go well at first it’ll end up another chip Kelly situation. Lurie isn’t giving a coach that amount of control anymore
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I can’t remember the source, but somebody that follows the Birds posted something about there being a conversation between Bill and Eagles’ brass this summer.

Maybe just smoke, but I could see them kicking the tires to get a feel for how much control he wants. I get a feeling he’d be OK without GM duties and just being a coach.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Saw this and I agree

To sum issues from this game:

- Turnover Hurts continues
- DL can't get any pressure
- Tackling is a massive issue
- Refuse to run Saquon consistently
- Hurts looks slow as ever
- Can't get off the field
- Maddox is atrocious
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Hurts is playing like the guy that got replaced at Bama right now

We really should’ve invested more to our DL

Tackling has been an issue for few yrs now (I partially blame new CPA rules on this)

Why did we sign Barkley if we refuse to run him? Seems like a waste

Not sure what hurts issue running is. Was the knee worse then reported or what? He seems to lost all lateral athleticism he had

We haven’t been able to get off the field for awhile now. I think Fangio is the Joe Girardi of football. Incredible overrated but respected do to longetivity and seems like a likeable guy

Maddox has been bad for awhile. Seemed like he was a knee jerk reaction resigning
 
ProstheticRGK said:
DJackson10 said:
ProstheticRGK said:
Pip's Invitation said:
Would Belichick come here given Lurie and Howie's need for control? Would Lurie and Howie want him?
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He seems like a bad fit to me. But rumors have been swirling about the courtship in the off-season.

And Bill has been very, very complimentary about Lurie and Howie, publically.
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No one wants Bill it’s just that bill had a buddy of his from the Boston press run a pr campaign to get some run for him. He’s too old for the things he wants and if things don’t go well at first it’ll end up another chip Kelly situation. Lurie isn’t giving a coach that amount of control anymore
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I can’t remember the source, but somebody that follows the Birds posted something about there being a conversation between Bill and Eagles’ brass this summer.

Maybe just smoke, but I could see them kicking the tires to get a feel for how much control he wants. I get a feeling he’d be OK without GM duties and just being a coach.
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It was nothing more then the team inquiring like I said back in august or so. The eagles would be dumb not to look into bill but it was nothing more then a courtesy call from what was reported or heard.
 
I don't want to be all doom and gloom. I said before the season started that playing with a lead would be vital to the success of this defense because I was concerned with the DL. When the offense gets healthy, they'll be pretty unstoppable (barring Hurts turning the ball over 3 times a game). That alone will ease the burden on the defense by making teams one dimensional, then a guy like Huff will have some value (I hope). I still see this team getting 11+ wins, it's just they don't have a Superbowl caliber defense so they're probably one and done in the playoffs.

I don't love Sirianni, but I don't see how firing him now benefits this team.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Eagles through 4 games:

- Tied most turnovers
- Tied 2nd fewest takeaways
- Top 8 most penalties
- Top 10 missed tackles
- Only team without a single point scored in 1st quarter

For someone who can't shut up about fundamentals, Sirianni sure isn't doing his job.
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Nick gotta go. I'm done with this crap. Might as well fire him, let Kellen have the team for the rest of the year then figure out what to do in 2025. This team is not going anywhere far this year.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Roseman won't get fired, but his tenure follows the same cycle: excellent rebuild leading to unexpected success, followed by poor roster moves, declining QB play, losses, and the coach getting fired.

It happened with Kelly and Pederson, and it's happening now with Sirianni.
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With the return he got for Wentz, I'm sure he can get a haul for Hurts and accelerate any rebuild.

I just see a disconnect with the coaching philosophies and the organization team building philosophies on defense. You can't have a Fangio defense where you need to get pressure with 4 and have LBs who can cover and then have an organizational philosophy that you can cheap out on the LB position and, for this this season at least, go cheap on DEs. You're setting Fangio up to fail.

I said this in a 49er thread (forget which one, might have been the CMC) that the 49ers will soon be entering a transition phase of out with the old, in with the new. The Eagles have already entered this phase. The promising thing is, Howie has broken the organizational trend on RBs, and if Fangio is going to have any chance of success here, he's going to have to do the same with the LBs and to a lesser extent, the DEs. We have to get away from the DE by committee and go get a stud who can play all 3 downs.
 
Another take from Johnny Page:

I don't really know how to explain this, and I'm not making excuses for him because it isn't a good thing, but I think trust is a huge deal for Jalen Hurts.

When he's throwing to Dallas Goedert in this game he just looks different. I think it has to get comfortable with his receivers and this is a big issue right now.

I'm watching Dotson running good routes and looking explosiveness but Hurts doesn't really even look his way.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Another take from Johnny Page:

I don't really know how to explain this, and I'm not making excuses for him because it isn't a good thing, but I think trust is a huge deal for Jalen Hurts.

When he's throwing to Dallas Goedert in this game he just looks different. I think it has to get comfortable with his receivers and this is a big issue right now.

I'm watching Dotson running good routes and looking explosiveness but Hurts doesn't really even look his way.
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That sounds like a Jalen issue then.
 
Grahamburn said:
Insein said:
Grahamburn said:

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I mean, is he really an eagle if they keep making him inactive every week. Is he so bad that our defense can't use him? In starting to think Fangio doesn't have a clue.
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No idea. Seems like an odd situation, and that's obviously a silly thing to tweet during the game against the team that pays you. I do know one thing he can do is rush the passer.
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Which we have a real problem with. Yet Vic can't use him.
 
Reddick has no chance to comeback via trade to Philly. Per CBA and nfl guidelines a team who trades a player must wait for 2 yrs to elapse before trading for said player again
 
Grahamburn said:
Insein said:
Grahamburn said:

x.com

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I mean, is he really an eagle if they keep making him inactive every week. Is he so bad that our defense can't use him? In starting to think Fangio doesn't have a clue.
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No idea. Seems like an odd situation, and that's obviously a silly thing to tweet during the game against the team that pays you. I do know one thing he can do is rush the passer.
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He’s clearly attempting to get cut at this point.
 
Things could be worse look at the 49ers with CMC

BREAKING:#49ers star running back Christian McCaffrey has Achilles tendinitis in BOTH OF HIS LEGS, NBC reports.

😳😳😳

It is called bilateral Achilles tendonitis… and obviously the team was not willing to tell anyone….

NOT GOOD, no matter how the team tries to spin this.
 
DJackson10 said:
Things could be worse look at the 49ers with CMC

BREAKING:#49ers star running back Christian McCaffrey has Achilles tendinitis in BOTH OF HIS LEGS, NBC reports.

😳😳😳

It is called bilateral Achilles tendonitis… and obviously the team was not willing to tell anyone….

NOT GOOD, no matter how the team tries to spin this.
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It's the beginning of the end for the core of the 49ers.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
And outside of Slay looking done on the field he really doesn’t have a good feel for this social media stuff either. Bad look for a captain to act like he he does
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Not good at all. Need to trade him. Then he goes on parsons pod yesterday and acts like everything is all great and jokingly about teammates.
 
Watching the pressers and the one glaring thing that stuck out to me was Vic saying the DBs not playing press is up to the players?!?!? He even said they addressed it during the game that they were playing too far off and it didn’t change.

How is that even possible? Slay was actually good playing press coverage- one of the best- in his time at DET. And Quinyon has the recovery speed to be able to play more press. I honestly don’t know how much he played it at Toledo. But, seriously? What is going on? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Then the whole thing with Rodgers not knowing the rule when pushed the defender into Coop on the PR? How the heck does that even happen?

Coaching seems to be lacking. We already knew the personnel is definitely lacking on D. But to have all the penalties, boneheaded plays and guys not playing like a unit. This team needs an enema, or something.
 
ProstheticRGK said:
Watching the pressers and the one glaring thing that stuck out to me was Vic saying the DBs not playing press is up to the players?!?!? He even said they addressed it during the game that they were playing too far off and it didn’t change.

How is that even possible? Slay was actually good playing press coverage- one of the best- in his time at DET. And Quinyon has the recovery speed to be able to play more press. I honestly don’t know how much he played it at Toledo. But, seriously? What is going on? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Then the whole thing with Rodgers not knowing the rule when pushed the defender into Coop on the PR? How the heck does that even happen?

Coaching seems to be lacking. We already knew the personnel is definitely lacking on D. But to have all the penalties, boneheaded plays and guys not playing like a unit. This team needs an enema, or something.
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This is....disturbing.
 
ProstheticRGK said:
Watching the pressers and the one glaring thing that stuck out to me was Vic saying the DBs not playing press is up to the players?!?!? He even said they addressed it during the game that they were playing too far off and it didn’t change.

How is that even possible? Slay was actually good playing press coverage- one of the best- in his time at DET. And Quinyon has the recovery speed to be able to play more press. I honestly don’t know how much he played it at Toledo. But, seriously? What is going on? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Then the whole thing with Rodgers not knowing the rule when pushed the defender into Coop on the PR? How the heck does that even happen?

Coaching seems to be lacking. We already knew the personnel is definitely lacking on D. But to have all the penalties, boneheaded plays and guys not playing like a unit. This team needs an enema, or something.
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Is it true or is he lying. Either is a problem.
 
unckeyherb said:
ProstheticRGK said:
Watching the pressers and the one glaring thing that stuck out to me was Vic saying the DBs not playing press is up to the players?!?!? He even said they addressed it during the game that they were playing too far off and it didn’t change.

How is that even possible? Slay was actually good playing press coverage- one of the best- in his time at DET. And Quinyon has the recovery speed to be able to play more press. I honestly don’t know how much he played it at Toledo. But, seriously? What is going on? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Then the whole thing with Rodgers not knowing the rule when pushed the defender into Coop on the PR? How the heck does that even happen?

Coaching seems to be lacking. We already knew the personnel is definitely lacking on D. But to have all the penalties, boneheaded plays and guys not playing like a unit. This team needs an enema, or something.
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This is....disturbing.
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Yeah I don’t know how typical this is from team to team. I’d be interested to see how many other teams take this approach
 
ProstheticRGK said:
Watching the pressers and the one glaring thing that stuck out to me was Vic saying the DBs not playing press is up to the players?!?!? He even said they addressed it during the game that they were playing too far off and it didn’t change.

How is that even possible? Slay was actually good playing press coverage- one of the best- in his time at DET. And Quinyon has the recovery speed to be able to play more press. I honestly don’t know how much he played it at Toledo. But, seriously? What is going on? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Then the whole thing with Rodgers not knowing the rule when pushed the defender into Coop on the PR? How the heck does that even happen?

Coaching seems to be lacking. We already knew the personnel is definitely lacking on D. But to have all the penalties, boneheaded plays and guys not playing like a unit. This team needs an enema, or something.
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I know there was a few players who went rogue on coaching last year. Hence why Reddick left but it seems Slay did too. I think it’s a mix of a few things can be true

The coaching sucks

The players lack fundamentals

There’s a culture issue in the lockerroom.

I think people are starting to figure out why Jason Kelce retired when he did. He wanted no part in this ****show.
 
Insein said:
I feel like they should have traded Slay in the off-season. Let the rookies have a trial by fire. Can't be any worse.
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They are keeping him and obviously Bradberry around for $$ purposes more than anything. Maybe there is a chance they trade Slay mid season but I don't see it. Q looks up to him and from what I understand, Slay *IS* a good locker room guy, regardless of the limited stuff we see via his quest for fame, whichever avenue that may be (tiktok, twitter/x, instagram, etc).

Those two guys are definitely not going to be here next year so I do hope/expect at some point they really see what they have starting all of Cooper/Q/Rodgers/Ringo at the same time on the field, a lot.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
And looking over some of the more advanced stats it appears as if Moore is running less motion and less snaps from under center than every before.

Nick still has a heavy say in this offense it seems.
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I think it’s fair to guess that Jalen simply doesn’t like plays from under center and prefers shotgun. It’s not that crazy, he’s not a super tall guy, starting in shotgun gives him a better view of the defense.

Why they are not running motion more is a mystery.
 
unckeyherb said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
And looking over some of the more advanced stats it appears as if Moore is running less motion and less snaps from under center than every before.

Nick still has a heavy say in this offense it seems.
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I think it’s fair to guess that Jalen simply doesn’t like plays from under center and prefers shotgun. It’s not that crazy, he’s not a super tall guy, starting in shotgun gives him a better view of the defense.

Why they are not running motion more is a mystery.
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I’d like to think that a 250 million dollar QB can learn or practice something like this to help his team and improve his game.

I’m really starting to split between how much is Sirianni and how much is Hurts.
 
Bigboy10182000 said:
unckeyherb said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
And looking over some of the more advanced stats it appears as if Moore is running less motion and less snaps from under center than every before.

Nick still has a heavy say in this offense it seems.
Click to expand...
I think it’s fair to guess that Jalen simply doesn’t like plays from under center and prefers shotgun. It’s not that crazy, he’s not a super tall guy, starting in shotgun gives him a better view of the defense.

Why they are not running motion more is a mystery.
Click to expand...

I’d like to think that a 250 million dollar QB can learn or practice something like this to help his team and improve his game.

I’m really starting to split between how much is Sirianni and how much is Hurts.
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well it keeps going the way its going and they are both gonna be gone
 
need2know said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
unckeyherb said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
And looking over some of the more advanced stats it appears as if Moore is running less motion and less snaps from under center than every before.

Nick still has a heavy say in this offense it seems.
Click to expand...
I think it’s fair to guess that Jalen simply doesn’t like plays from under center and prefers shotgun. It’s not that crazy, he’s not a super tall guy, starting in shotgun gives him a better view of the defense.

Why they are not running motion more is a mystery.
Click to expand...

I’d like to think that a 250 million dollar QB can learn or practice something like this to help his team and improve his game.

I’m really starting to split between how much is Sirianni and how much is Hurts.
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well it keeps going the way its going and they are both gonna be gone
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The coach will go first I’m sure.
 
unckeyherb said:
I think it’s fair to guess that Jalen simply doesn’t like plays from under center and prefers shotgun. It’s not that crazy, he’s not a super tall guy, starting in shotgun gives him a better view of the defense.

Why they are not running motion more is a mystery.
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Bigboy10182000 said:

I’d like to think that a 250 million dollar QB can learn or practice something like this to help his team and improve his game.

I’m really starting to split between how much is Sirianni and how much is Hurts.
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these two thoughts are where i've been this year and I'm fairly convinced more and more Hurts' ability is limiting what Sirianni is willing to do and not the other way around. To say in a different way, Sirianni is covering up Hurts' shortfalls as a game manager. If I go down this rabbit hole, then, we need to replace Hurts in the next couple of years since running QB shelf life and all that.

Plus Sirianni won't last long enough to see through to the next kid if Hurts can't develop his game further. If he can develop, then all is good for many years to come, and I'm not at all doubting that can happen. This is where I turn the table and say can Sirianni be the guy to push Hurts in the positive direction. So far the jury says no, Nick isn't that guy.
 
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