2024 Philadelphia Eagles - Prime Time Kirk Cousins. We like that! (19 Viewers)

[Ruffrodys05]

I only watched the first half last night. Shipley has had to work on blocking and picking up the blitz in camp so, it was great to see him slide from left to right and pick up a blitz and make a great block last night. I thought Trotter Jr. did well in the first half. I thought Covey did really well as a WR and on at least one punt return he showed why he was the best last year, juking away from at least 4 tackles....punter got a hand on him to trip him up or he might have gone the distance.

Disappointed in WR Ross. I'm not surprised. All locked-in offensive starters sat last night. Defensive rookies (sans Dejean) and other possible starters played at DL, DE and LB.

 

[Deamon]

LOL.... REDDICK JUST DEMANDED A TRADE FROM THE JETS!

Howie saw this coming from a mile away.

 

[Deamon]

Don't love that compensation tbh. If he had a good year and left in FA, we get a comp 3rd rounder in 2025 instead, don't we?

However, I have a feeling there's more to it we don't know, like he might have held out, not played without a big new deal, etc. But who knows.

 

[The Noid]

LOL.... REDDICK JUST DEMANDED A TRADE FROM THE JETS!

Howie saw this coming from a mile away.

The downside to this situation is that if he’s traded, it cements a 3rd round pick for us, instead of the 2nd it could have been if he met playing time requirements.

The terms of the trade are specific to his playing time with the Jets, and don’t transfer to his new team.

 

[Deamon]

LOL.... REDDICK JUST DEMANDED A TRADE FROM THE JETS!

Howie saw this coming from a mile away.

The downside to this situation is that if he’s traded, it cements a 3rd round pick for us, instead of the 2nd it could have been if he met playing time requirements.

The terms of the trade are specific to his playing time with the Jets, and don’t transfer to his new team.

Ya, that's fine. Wasn't sure if he was going to hit 10 sacks with them anyways.

 

[Deamon]

Eagles defensive back Avonte Maddox on helping the rookie first round draft pick Quinyon Mitchell

“Whenever he needs me. It’s all about competition. I love to compete. But I’m here to help these guys get better, grow. And if they’re here to take my job, I’m all for it. I’m out here to work for it. Me and him can compete at it but at the end of the day, if he has a question, I would never turn my back, I would never not tell him the right answer. Anytime he needs extra work, anytime he needs to know an answer to anything out here.”

 

[Pip's Invitation]

My main redraft league had its draft tonight. Nobody cares about my fantasy team but that's not why I mentioned it. I figured you guys might be amused that a new member of our league this year is former Eagle Brandon Whiting, who played in the late Rhodes/early Reid era and was traded to SF in the TO deal. He works with a longtime member of our league, who recruited him.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

My main redraft league had its draft tonight. Nobody cares about my fantasy team but that's not why I mentioned it. I figured you guys might be amused that a new member of our league this year is former Eagle Brandon Whiting, who played in the late Rhodes/early Reid era and was traded to SF in the TO deal. He works with a longtime member of our league, who recruited him.

Brandon Whiting walks up to the draft board.

Him: “I’m about to do something I don’t want to do.”
Me: “Taking a Cowboy?”

(He took Xavier Worthy.)

 

[nittanylion]

Moar Draft with Brandon Whiting stories, please! Was hoping you'd have beans to spill afterwards!

It's not my Team's Thread, but I read it regularly, and I, for one, don't mind if a Team thread gets sidetracked just a little, for stuff like this.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Moar Draft with Brandon Whiting stories, please! Was hoping you'd have beans to spill afterwards!

It's not my Team's Thread, but I read it regularly, and I, for one, don't mind if a Team thread gets sidetracked just a little, for stuff like this.

I was on the opposite side of the room from him, so I don’t have a whole lot, but here are a few.

“Backup quarterback in the NFL is a sweet gig.” He said Koy Detmer is the funniest person he ever met.

“Did you ever have a pick six?”
“One, against the Colts.”
“You picked off Peyton Manning???!!!???!!!”
“Nah, they were blowing us out and he got pulled. I picked off his backup. Mike Mamula tipped it to me.”

He said he still keeps in touch with Mamula and some of his other old teammates. There was some discussion of how we would perceive Mamula’s career if he wasn’t a high first-round pick.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I thought Sirianni said he was going to reevaluate playing starters in the preseason. They should go a series or two.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

I thought Sirianni said he was going to reevaluate playing starters in the preseason. They should go a series or two.

Apparently not. Woulda liked to see the 1s get SOME playing time, just to get into rythym. But not a huge deal.

Becton, for sure, starting RG now. So, where does Steen end up?

Looking hard at LB play tonight. That is still the weak spot on D. Baun looked lost against BAL- Trotter looking like the most natural off-ball LB on the team. And Dean can play his way into a starting role. We need a real LB that can cover- the middle of the D in coverage is scary bad.

 

[need2know]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

 

[Boston]

I think you guys are gonna have a nice COP back in Shipley.

 

[Boston]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

I can't take him seriously with those gloves on in August.

 

[travdogg]

Becton, for sure, starting RG now. So, where does Steen end up?

It'd be the most Eagles (and Jets) thing in the world, if Becton lived up to his draft status and just needed a move to G.

 

[need2know]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

I can't take him seriously with those gloves on in August.

gloves or no gloves the guy just plain sucks

 

[Steelers4Life]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

Steelers fans have known that for a while now.

 

[need2know]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

Steelers fans have known that for a while now.

cant believe you guys started him as long as you did. also cant believe he was a first round pick

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Becton, for sure, starting RG now. So, where does Steen end up?

It'd be the most Eagles (and Jets) thing in the world, if Becton lived up to his draft status and just needed a move to G.

Never underestimate the value of a Stoutland University education.

Still holding my breath about the Oline. I think they can/should still be a top 5 unit in the NFL, but no guarantees.

 

[need2know]

Becton, for sure, starting RG now. So, where does Steen end up?

It'd be the most Eagles (and Jets) thing in the world, if Becton lived up to his draft status and just needed a move to G.

Never underestimate the value of a Stoutland University education.

Still holding my breath about the Oline. I think they can/should still be a top 5 unit in the NFL, but no guarantees.

they are going to fall a decent amount. you dont lose someone like kelce and not feel it. esp early on

 

[Deamon]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

 

[need2know]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

Seems low in alot of spots if ya ask me

 

[unckeyherb]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

 

[Deamon]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

can click the link I put, but it's;

KC
BUF
BAL
CIN
NYJ
DAL
LAR
HOU
SF
LAC
PHI
GB
ATL
DET
JAX
ARI
SEA
IND

AS THE TOP 20

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

Seems low in alot of spots if ya ask me

Meh, I think that DL is a bit low, but I’m not sure that I would argue that strongly with any others. CB has a lot of upside by the end of the season though

 

[dickey moe]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

can click the link I put, but it's;

KC
BUF
BAL
CIN
NYJ
DAL
LAR
HOU
SF
LAC
PHI
GB
ATL
DET
JAX
ARI
SEA
IND

AS THE TOP 20

Switch PHI with DAL and it makes more sense.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

 

[3C's]

Pickett looks awful. Wont be in the league much longer imo

Steelers fans have known that for a while now.

cant believe you guys started him as long as you did. also cant believe he was a first round pick

yep, they compounded one mistake with another

 

[need2know]

Guess i feel we are like a top 4-7 team. 10? Hell no

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

Say what you want about the first two, but Lamar has been MVP. Twice

 

[ProstheticRGK]

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

Say what you want about the first two, but Lamar has been MVP. Twice

I said he disappears at times. The worst of times- the playoffs. I didn’t say I wouldn’t trade Hurts for him straight up.

It’ll be interesting to see what BAL does this year with King Henry and a healthy Andrews

 

[need2know]

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

Say what you want about the first two, but Lamar has been MVP. Twice

And awful in all the playoff gsmes he ever played in. Hes overrated. Not quite Dak level. But close

 

[need2know]

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

Say what you want about the first two, but Lamar has been MVP. Twice

I said he disappears at times. The worst of times- the playoffs. I didn’t say I wouldn’t trade Hurts for him straight up.

It’ll be interesting to see what BAL does this year with King Henry and a healthy Andrews

If they cant make the superbowl this year i think they never will

 

[Insein]

Mekhi Becton left practice limping to the locker room.

x.com

x.com

 

[renesauz]

It does say GROUPS, which includes backups. In that context 10th at QB doesnt sound so far off. If it were starters only we'd likely move up at QB and WR

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Mekhi Becton left practice limping to the locker room.

x.com

x.com

Well, crap! Hope it’s nothing serious. He has had a great summer and I’m hopeful he found a home as the biggest (and most dominant) RG in NFL history.

How ironic would it be if he had an ankle sprain, missed a couple weeks and Steen came in and played lights out and re-won the starting gig?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

 

[Insein]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Burrow maybe. Herbert? What has he done in the league?

 

[need2know]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Burrow maybe. Herbert? What has he done in the league?

I cant think of one moment or big game that stands out

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

Jim Harbaugh's teams passing offense ranks as an NFL HC:

2011: 31st pass att, 29th pass yds, 24th pass TD
2012: 31st pass att, 23rd pass yds, 16th pass TD
2013: 32nd pass att, 30th pass yds, 23rd pass TD
2014: 29th pass att, 30th pass yds, 22nd pass TD

Every move they've made suggests that trend to continue. They probably feature the run heavily this season.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

Jim Harbaugh's teams passing offense ranks as an NFL HC:

2011: 31st pass att, 29th pass yds, 24th pass TD
2012: 31st pass att, 23rd pass yds, 16th pass TD
2013: 32nd pass att, 30th pass yds, 23rd pass TD
2014: 29th pass att, 30th pass yds, 22nd pass TD

Every move they've made suggests that trend to continue. They probably feature the run heavily this season.

I see your point, but looking at that in a vacuum is deceiving. He resurrected Alex Smith's career and turned a dubiously talented Kaepernick into a shooting star. Yeah, he loves the run game to a fault but he gets the best out of his QBs, too. And makes them more efficient.

Herbert isn't Smith or Kaep. And with Palmer, baby Chark, McConkey and Hurst/Dissly vs a backfield of Gus Edawrds and JK Dobbins? I'll bet on the passing game.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

Jim Harbaugh's teams passing offense ranks as an NFL HC:

2011: 31st pass att, 29th pass yds, 24th pass TD
2012: 31st pass att, 23rd pass yds, 16th pass TD
2013: 32nd pass att, 30th pass yds, 23rd pass TD
2014: 29th pass att, 30th pass yds, 22nd pass TD

Every move they've made suggests that trend to continue. They probably feature the run heavily this season.

I see your point, but looking at that in a vacuum is deceiving. He resurrected Alex Smith's career and turned a dubiously talented Kaepernick into a shooting star. Yeah, he loves the run game to a fault but he gets the best out of his QBs, too. And makes them more efficient.

Herbert isn't Smith or Kaep. And with Palmer, baby Chark, McConkey and Hurst/Dissly vs a backfield of Gus Edawrds and JK Dobbins? I'll bet on the passing game.

Smith threw for less than 200 yards per game under Harbaugh and had 17 and 13 TDs before getting traded to KC. He actually took off under Andy Reid. Smith won more with Harbaugh, but his numbers were better before Harbaugh arrived. CK was never a good throwing QB and flamed out. Plus, those WRs Herbert is throwing to are pitiful. IMO, if we're talking a 12 team league, Herbert isn't a QB1 for fantasy purposes.

 

[Insein]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

Jim Harbaugh's teams passing offense ranks as an NFL HC:

2011: 31st pass att, 29th pass yds, 24th pass TD
2012: 31st pass att, 23rd pass yds, 16th pass TD
2013: 32nd pass att, 30th pass yds, 23rd pass TD
2014: 29th pass att, 30th pass yds, 22nd pass TD

Every move they've made suggests that trend to continue. They probably feature the run heavily this season.

I see your point, but looking at that in a vacuum is deceiving. He resurrected Alex Smith's career and turned a dubiously talented Kaepernick into a shooting star. Yeah, he loves the run game to a fault but he gets the best out of his QBs, too. And makes them more efficient.

Herbert isn't Smith or Kaep. And with Palmer, baby Chark, McConkey and Hurst/Dissly vs a backfield of Gus Edawrds and JK Dobbins? I'll bet on the passing game.

Smith threw for less than 200 yards per game under Harbaugh and had 17 and 13 TDs before getting traded to KC. He actually took off under Andy Reid. Smith won more with Harbaugh, but his numbers were better before Harbaugh arrived. CK was never a good throwing QB and flamed out. Plus, those WRs Herbert is throwing to are pitiful. IMO, if we're talking a 12 team league, Herbert isn't a QB1 for fantasy purposes.

Agreed. I've been going with a late round QB strategy this year landing Stafford or Rodgers in the 12th. Herbert is still there in almost all of them.

 

[Insein]

Uzomah cut. Not really a surprise

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Interesting, ESPN just posted their positional group rankings.

Here's how they ranked us:

QB: 11th
RB: 6th
WR: 7th
TE: 19th
OL: 5th
DL: 22nd
EDGE: 16th
LB: 30th
CB: 11th
S: 22nd
Overall: 10th

I'd be interested to know who the ten better QB's are. Not picking nits, just curious. I'll definitely question that there are 18 teams with better TE's and we're 22 on Dline? dafuq outta here.

Definite
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Burrow
Herbert

Possible
Stroud
Dak
Love

Could have a conversation
Lawrence
Rodgers
Stafford

This is really a big year for Hurts. He’s gotta show that he can put it all together. He’s had one year that was really good and has been inconsistent the rest of the time. I’m not saying I don’t believe in him or don’t want him, just trying to be fair. Hopefully it was mostly injury last year.

I’d quibble some with some of ur rankings. I wouldn’t definitely take Herbert, or even Burrow over Hurts, at this point. Even Lamar disappears, at times.

But, I’m a big homer when it comes to Jalen and I think he is going to be lights out this year. I don’t think you can have a year like he had and play in the SuperBowl the way he did and not be legit top-tier talent.

I do completely agree with your take that he only showed that one year and this one will be crucial to defining what oevel talent he really is.

I guess it is is fair to question Herbert and burrow considering that they haven’t demonstrated it on the field for that long. I guess I just feel better about their arms and ability to make splays in the passing game. Hurts is still a little too mechanical in the pass game and a little too reliant on his athleticism. I suppose these are more long term questions than just this year. Like I would rather bet on the next 5-7 years of Herbert or burrow than hurts.

Yeah, I think you can argue that both of them have a higher ceiling than Jalen, but it's too early to say. With Burrow it's been injuries. With Herbert, I guess lack of continuity in his Offensive system. I think Herbert blows up this year and Chargers make noise with playoff run. Harbaugh seems ultra-dooshy, but, man is he a good ball coach.

Jim Harbaugh's teams passing offense ranks as an NFL HC:

2011: 31st pass att, 29th pass yds, 24th pass TD
2012: 31st pass att, 23rd pass yds, 16th pass TD
2013: 32nd pass att, 30th pass yds, 23rd pass TD
2014: 29th pass att, 30th pass yds, 22nd pass TD

Every move they've made suggests that trend to continue. They probably feature the run heavily this season.

I see your point, but looking at that in a vacuum is deceiving. He resurrected Alex Smith's career and turned a dubiously talented Kaepernick into a shooting star. Yeah, he loves the run game to a fault but he gets the best out of his QBs, too. And makes them more efficient.

Herbert isn't Smith or Kaep. And with Palmer, baby Chark, McConkey and Hurst/Dissly vs a backfield of Gus Edawrds and JK Dobbins? I'll bet on the passing game.

Smith threw for less than 200 yards per game under Harbaugh and had 17 and 13 TDs before getting traded to KC. He actually took off under Andy Reid. Smith won more with Harbaugh, but his numbers were better before Harbaugh arrived. CK was never a good throwing QB and flamed out. Plus, those WRs Herbert is throwing to are pitiful. IMO, if we're talking a 12 team league, Herbert isn't a QB1 for fantasy purposes.

You’re probably right. I have a gut feeling Herbert is going to way overdeliver on his ADP, though. I’m stealing him in drafts and making sure I have a decent back-up

 

[Terpman22]

Eagles just traded for WR Jahan Dotson

 

[Insein]

I like it. Speed guy to take the roof off for AJ and Devonta.

Bye Quez