GregR
Footballguy
What are the situations where a G5 don't make it? They have to be ranked?
They don't have to be ranked. The top 5 conf champs by the committee's ranking get in, even if outside the top 25.
What are the situations where a G5 don't make it? They have to be ranked?
The top 5 conference champions get in. The AAC champ will get in.I would have no problem if Texas gets in if they win tonight. They shouldn't be penalized for having the balls to schedule Ohio State and have some serious wins on their resume.I mean I don't really have a dog in it...but you could definitely say the head to head matters, and that in some case, the losses are to such bad teams and there arent good wins etc that the head to head win is overcome.Ok. There's a large section of people who choose emotion over objectivity when arguing the silly merits of CFB including ND dudes. That's a pretty water is wet statement. I dont really think this example proves or shows anything meaningful like you think it does though. Thanks for the clarification. No further questions.Wait. Are you comparing decisions made under the BCS era rules and circumstances to that of what might happen under the second year of a brand new system that has rules, circumstances and factors completely different (like night and day different) and then labeling people based on those situations that have no business being compared because of how different they are?I am so sick of them pretending Miami is in as ACC champ. I appreciate that the broadcast points it out but they are being so dumb about it. Just put ACC Champ there and admit to everyone you have Miami outside looking in.
The gap in terms of resume between Miami and ND continues to shrink each week to the point where there won't be a material difference between the two on paper. I think the difference in terms of strength of record is like 2 or 3. ND crushes in the eye test, but I think you are going to see more and more discussion about ND over Miami if both teams win next week. The two teams played - why do I need to look at a bunch of esoteric metrics to separate them (this is rhetorical please don't try to answer).Don't care about either team, but just checking in on this...
Miami beat ND
Both teams have 2 losses
Their resumes aren't THAT different
But ND is a shoe-in and Miami effectively has little shot? Wha.......
Go Ducks
Glad to hear you two are going on the record that ND was robbed of the 1993 national championship. When voters said a ND head to head win over identical record FSU didn't make up for ND losing to the #12 team instead of FSU losing #2 ND.
Given how Miami this year has a pair of losses that are each over 20 ranking spots worse than ND's losses.
I mean it would take an ENORMOUS hypocrite to say Miami should make it in this year based on head to head, but ND didn't deserve the National Championship in 1993 based on head to head.
I have a couple follow up questions depending on answer.
I'm saying there is a large group of people who argue against ND regardless, whose "what beats what" changes as needed to argue against ND in whatever the current situation is. It happens year after year.
I'm giving these two credit that they aren't part of that group, and they'd use a consistent set of criteria.
By the way, I wasn't even alive (maybe a toddler) for that part of the BCS, but I know the process and its goals back then with picking two teams. Not in the same stratosphere as picking for the 12 team playoff. This is like comparing national league DH stats prior to and after the rule changes IMO.
Good for you being young. Take care of your knees. And your back. Assuming you haven't already messed them up like I did in my 20s.
As for "then vs now", the playoff system in place now or then has little to do with it the topic. In both cases, the discussion comes down to which of two specific teams who faced each other, should rank ahead of the other. Doesn't matter whether that final ranking awards a trophy or a playoff spot. It's the same exact discussion.
It's not as black and white as same record, head to head win, definitely ahead no matter what.
I wasn't even alive during whatever ND season you're talking about lol
ETA: and you can just as easily say who you beat matters more than who you lose to before we even talk about losses. Like if Texas beats A&M, I'd put them in over ND and Miami regardless of record.
What are the situations where a G5 don't make it? They have to be ranked?
Beating TAMU might knock them out of the sec title game making them have to get in over them which is probably not happening.
Not good news for ND, I fear. Tomorrow’s Oregon/Washington and LSU/OU games have growing importance and Pitt/Miami might be most of all.Another Alabama Georgia SEC championship game. At least there's some drama on Tuesday to see where Texas and Texas A&M are ranked and sorting out the SEC teams with ND, Miami and BYU.
Today's the day. 2191 days and counting.
Hoosier football is in its most consequential season, probably ever
That being said, it means almost nothing unless they completely obliterate the Purdues today
Get it done
I think we will win and think we should win but in this game you just don’t know. I get nervous every year, even when OSU won 17 out of 18 or whatever it was - I still got nervous every season.I know this thread is more about waxing philosophical about coach contracts and hypothetical future playoff scenarios, all good stuff, but cmon oSU* fans not a peep all week? Probably smart (since I'm dumb I'll likely regret opening my mouth).
I'm an almost 50yo child, but I'll try to keep my doosh factor turned down best i can today
Here's to hoping the 30 minute flight was comfortable and the bed were soft last night. Softness is a must in ohio after all.
Here's to never seeing itI am working on an avatar for you @The Longtime Lurker!


Really? That was the time they just picked who they liked the most. Pollsters just voted for who they wanted and let chips fall where they may right?Pre-BCS. Just pointing that out.for that part of the BCS
The only time I ever see them in here (at least the ones I know of) is when Michigan loses. And it doesnt matter who they lost to. Rest assured they will flood this place if Day can stay out of his own way and get the win.I know this thread is more about waxing philosophical about coach contracts and hypothetical future playoff scenarios, all good stuff, but cmon oSU* fans not a peep all week? Probably smart (since I'm dumb I'll likely regret opening my mouth).
I'm an almost 50yo child, but I'll try to keep my doosh factor turned down best i can today
Here's to hoping the 30 minute flight was comfortable and the beds were soft last night. Softness is a must in ohio after all.

Is this really the status of the program or do I need to adjust my sarcasm detector?Lost in all the rivalry games with actual playoff implications, USC will take on UCLA at the Coliseum. After the loss to the Ducks and playoff elimination, will the Trojan’s fragile culture crumble as key players consider portal moves? Or will USC take its anger out on a limping Bruins squad? @timschochet , what say you? Is this another 13-9 in the making?
Yes. He's the worst. Today the schtick is OK, but every other day of the year i cringe.Michigan guys, you hate that this Portnoy guy is a fan right? Dude is such a toolbox
I like Woodson, so watching fox. It's ok coverage, but do prefer GameDay if i do watch pregame.Haven't paid a ton of attention to the pregame shows in general, but flipping between the two today. FOX is so far behind ESPN.
It was funny watching Saban on set while they were talking about "Patricia's defense. "I like Woodson, so watching fox. It's ok coverage, but do prefer GameDay if i do watch pregame.Haven't paid a ton of attention to the pregame shows in general, but flipping between the two today. FOX is so far behind ESPN.
Since I am watching it's nice to hear Day say losing to Michigan is one of the worst things thats ever happened to him.
Apparently, my neighbor (never met him) is a Michigan fan. Heard him screaming from my house. HahaWas hoping he was gonna break that one for 6
It's happening!!!!
(Again)

I know this is popular sentiment, but had Texas kicked FGs instead of going for it, they would have beaten OSUNeeded 7 there. FGs aren't gonna be enough, but I'll take it. D came ready to play.
The backup is the walk on, right?
I'm definitely on team take the points. Just wish it was 7 instead of 3I know this is popular sentiment, but had Texas kicked FGs instead of going for it, they would have beaten OSUNeeded 7 there. FGs aren't gonna be enough, but I'll take it. D came ready to play.
I can't believe he didn'tDamn. Is he gonna get kicked out?
I have it synced almost perfectly. Just a fraction off on that ref announcement. Such a relief to my ears.Trying to find a radio station so I don't have to listen to Gus.