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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 Getting ready for camp. (20 Viewers)

I sure hope all of you saying no chance to Crosby are wrong.

He is from Michigan.
Played at Eastern
The stadium is named after him
He is on record saying if not Vegas, he could see playing for the Lions.

Now he made that comment the other day about "wherever".

Will it happen? Probably not. But I sure hope so.
 
I sure hope all of you saying no chance to Crosby are wrong.

He is from Michigan.
Played at Eastern
The stadium is named after him
He is on record saying if not Vegas, he could see playing for the Lions.

Now he made that comment the other day about "wherever".

Will it happen? Probably not. But I sure hope so.
I would never say never but the odds are still low. Maxx + the Raiders are the ones who hold control, not the Lions or any other team. And him being from here would only influence Maxx, not the Raiders or Lions.
 
I sure hope all of you saying no chance to Crosby are wrong.

He is from Michigan.
Played at Eastern
The stadium is named after him
He is on record saying if not Vegas, he could see playing for the Lions.

Now he made that comment the other day about "wherever".

Will it happen? Probably not. But I sure hope so.
I would never say never but the odds are still low. Maxx + the Raiders are the ones who hold control, not the Lions or any other team. And him being from here would only influence Maxx, not the Raiders or Lions.
100% agree. Him being from here is to counter the "Crosby is a Raider" thought.
I understand that, but I'm guessing HE wouldn't mind coming home to win a ring.
 
So Hutch's break was clean...with no nerve, blood vessels of muscle damage. Medical treatment is Dallas were lead by some of the best in the field. Best case scenerio for this type of injury with a 3 to 4 month recovery not out of the question.
 
Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.
 
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Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.

James Houston....8 sacks in 7 games as a rookie.

Lions need to induce JJ Watt out of retirement, IMHO.
 
Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.

Well the style of player Reddick is (same would be true of Von Miller) would not be successful in Aaron Glenn’s defense. The run fits require Edge rushers who stay in their rush lane and are able to set the Edge. Free lancing in that scheme leads to splash plays for the opponent because the backs are at the second level before they encounter anyone.

I used to have the exact mindset you’re talking about. What’s more disruptive than a sack? That almost always leads to either a turnover or punt.

Turns out pass rush specialist aren’t as difficult to neutralize as we think. Especially if they only play on passing downs. Triply so if they’re light weight DL (Hasson, Miller & James Houston IV are all 250 or lower.)

Trust me, I wish it were not so. But Detroit is pot committed to the defensive scheme they run, and the roster was constructed for it.
 
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Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.

James Houston....8 sacks in 7 games as a rookie.

R.I.P.

That was fun. Until it wasn’t.
 
Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.

James Houston....8 sacks in 7 games as a rookie.

R.I.P.

That was fun. Until it wasn’t.

We will see. They almost have to make Houston part of the rotation by attrition. Their DL especially at edge is depleted. It may very well be he lost his bend after the broken ankle, but I still have some hope we will see it again.
 

Not too worried. Kayode Awosika had a career best start at LG when Frank missed a start. Hopefully he can repeat that at RG.

Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Yep, like the Boston Bruins traded Tyler Seguin and have never won a Stanley Cup since.

Like the Canadiens only want you coaching if you can also speak French and haven't won a Cup since '93 partly because of it.

Point is, in a cross-sport analogy, we have the luxury of a "type" until we don't have that luxury anymore. Or we miss our goals and get fired.

A player that sacks the quarterback is anybody's type at some point. It depends what you're willing to trot out there and how long you want to trot it out there for.

Reddick is better than some guy nobody's ever heard of. Who is this mysterious marvel being held back by the Detroit coaching staff?

Inquiring minds want to know.

There is likely no Maxx Crosby coming. There's no reason for the Raiders to trade him.

James Houston....8 sacks in 7 games as a rookie.

R.I.P.

That was fun. Until it wasn’t.

We will see. They almost have to make Houston part of the rotation by attrition. Their DL especially at edge is depleted. It may very well be he lost his bend after the broken ankle, but I still have some hope we will see it again.

Or they cut him for someone that will be useful.
 
Someone on another board asked an interesting question. Who was the last elite edge rusher to win a Superbowl?

Aaron Donald and Chris Jones are interior guys capable of lining up outside when you just gotta have it.

Guess this is presumably like RBs who lead the league in rushing seldom get a ring. Top 3-5 Edge rushers are often not in the dance or on playoff teams that don’t make the big game.
 

They are not cutting Houston this week, it is too late to bring someone else into the fold. Houston has at least one chance to show he can play a role in this defense.

This week's game will be very interesting. The Lions could try to stick to the run to keep the banged up defense off the field, but the Vikings have a very stout run defense. More likely the Lions may have to open up the passing attack and get into a high scoring affair.
 

They are not cutting Houston this week, it is too late to bring someone else into the fold. Houston has at least one chance to show he can play a role in this defense.

This week's game will be very interesting. The Lions could try to stick to the run to keep the banged up defense off the field, but the Vikings have a very stout run defense. More likely the Lions may have to open up the passing attack and get into a high scoring affair.

Here is the last Houston mention I could find from Justin Rogers, from about a week ago

Q: Is the James Houston experiment over? — @JackrabbitTroll

Justin: As long as Houston is on the roster, the “experiment” continues. But after he struggled with alignment last week, netting two offside penalties in 14 snaps, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s back to being a healthy scratch against Dallas.

Trevor Nowaske was given Houston's edge snaps in the late stages against Seattle and was effective with a pocket-crushing style the Lions prefer from that spot.

As of last week, the Lions still had a 52 man roster. Peko and Hutch went on IR, Lions signed DE Isaiah Thomas.

From the team’s official website:

OCTOBER
10/15The Detroit Lions place DL Aidan Hutchinson and DL Kyle Peko on Reserve/Injured, and sign DE Isaiah Thomas.
10/07The Detroit Lions sign LB Cam Gill and LB Al-Quadin Muhammad to the practice squad, and release S Erick Hallett and K Matthew McCrane from the practice squad.

Pride of Detroit on 10/15 reported the Lions had 2 open roster spots, I think that is still the case?

Here is a speculative piece on James Houston IV if you are still a believer.

Lions’ James Houston has ‘great opportunity’ vs. Vikings, but still must earn playing time

Dan Campbell called this week a “great opportunity” for James Houston, but he’ll still have to earn his playing time.

By Jeremy Reisman@DetroitOnLion Oct 18, 2024, 1:00pm EDT
 
Who would you guess is the strongest player on the team?

According to Alim McNeill - who has a bench press PR of 465 - it’s either Nose Tackle D.J. Reader (#oldmanstrength) or practice squad DT Chris Smith. Both max out around 515 on bench press.
 
I sure hope all of you saying no chance to Crosby are wrong.

He is from Michigan.
Played at Eastern
The stadium is named after him
He is on record saying if not Vegas, he could see playing for the Lions.

Now he made that comment the other day about "wherever".

Will it happen? Probably not. But I sure hope so.
I would never say never but the odds are still low. Maxx + the Raiders are the ones who hold control, not the Lions or any other team. And him being from here would only influence Maxx, not the Raiders or Lions.
100% agree. Him being from here is to counter the "Crosby is a Raider" thought.
I understand that, but I'm guessing HE wouldn't mind coming home to win a ring.
Just like that? Are we crowning the lions asses?
 
Here is the last Houston mention I could find from Justin Rogers, from about a week ago
I just read a piece written by Dave Birkett about James Houston:

Aidan Hutchinson injury could open door for James Houston's return to Lions DL rotation

Listening to Dan Campbell in his presser today, his answer to a JH4 question could not have been more lukewarm. He didn’t trash him but…

First Q today

Next question was about newly signed DE Isaiah Thomas. It’s a competition, we’ll see how it plays out.
 
Aidan Hutchinson Final 2024 PFF Statistics:

• 94.9 Defensive Grade (1st NFL)
• 95.0 Pass Rush Grade (1st DL)
• 45 Total QB Pressures (1st)
• 8 Sacks (t-1st)
• 8 QB Hits (1st)
• 29 Hurries (1st)
• 14.7 Pass Rush Productivity Grade (1st)
• 38.3% Pass Rush Win Rate (1st)
I’m still heartbroken. He was going to have a DPOTY season.
 
what do we think this weekend? Lions about to show out again?
Hard to get too confident going on the road vs a 5-0 team as the underdog. That said if they do show up they can win this game. Lions once again need to establish the run game and keep the Minnesota offense off the field.
 
Has Haason Reddick entered your chat yet?

No, and there is no reason he should. We already have one bendy speed rusher we don’t know what to do with. He is a poor cultural fit, and schematically suboptimal.

Aaron Glenn has a type. He ain’t it.

Whoops. I love when one of the most respected members of the national football media has my back. And to think, Bill Barnwell, we don't even know each other. Kudos, brah. Thinks it'll take only a sixth. I think that's a pipe dream. The Philly thread says the Jets' pick they gave up for Reddick becomes a second if he goes to the NFC, but I haven't seen anything about that. If so, this is all for naught even in speculation.

By the way, I know about edge setting and all that. Thanks for the personnel, uh, football, uh, I mean just lesson in general. I got pwny pwny pwned.

Lions add short-term pass-rush assistance​

Jets get: 2026 sixth-round pick
Lions get: Edge Haason Reddick
There aren't many options for the Lions, who have now lost both of their starting edge rushers to season-ending injuries. They might have been able to get by without Marcus Davenport (triceps), but there's no replacing Aidan Hutchinson, who was a Defensive Player of the Year candidate before breaking his leg in Sunday's win over the Cowboys. With championship ambitions, Detroit needs to do whatever it can to find pass rushers with the potential to make an immediate impact.

I'd advocate for both the Lions and Raiders to consider an all-in move for Maxx Crosby, but the star pass rusher has said he doesn't want to leave Las Vegas. The best edge rusher who is actually available on the trade market is Reddick, who has spent the year accruing about $5 million in fines for not reporting to the Jets. He has insisted on landing a new contract before he steps back onto the field, and there's little reason to believe he'll give in on those demands now.

Davenport is a free agent after the season, and while Hutchinson will be eligible for an extension in 2025, both sides might want to wait for him to recover fully from his injury before negotiating a new contract. There's a window here in which the Lions could give Reddick a deal with guaranteed money running through the 2025 season. A two-year, $40 million extension to Reddick's existing deal would allow him to claim some victory for his holdout, while Detroit would land the pass rusher it sorely needs. The Jets aren't going to get the third-round pick they sent to the Eagles for Reddick, but that's a sunk cost now. – Bill Barnwell
 
what do we think this weekend? Lions about to show out again?

Through five games, the Vikings have trailed for three minutes and 26 seconds this season.

Legit team which has some pelts on the wall - a win over the 49ers for the second straight year, the Texans at US Bank, the Pack at Lambeau.

This team is better than the one that won 13 games two years ago.

Besides Darnold and A Jones, Kwesi brought in 5 new defensive starters (+ a couple more contributors) - Brian Flores throws a lot of different looks at opposing QBs, that unit has been lights out.

Per PFF, JAMO has a + matchup (WR Jameson Williams, Detroit Lions vs. CB Byron Murphy Jr., Minnesota Vikings.) Williams excels against both the blitz and zone coverage.

How will Detroit respond after losing Hutch? I'd like to think they will rally around the adversity.

The Vikings are susceptible to pressure up the middle - could see the newly minted $97M man having another monster week.

The grabby CBs had a good week in JerryWorld. Was Terrion Arnold's best game. Hoping that continues.


Clay Martin is the referee tomorrow. We've had him 4 times in the last 19 months. His crew is in the top 5 for most OL penalties but I don't have much of an impression of him.

Since holding him to 3-14 (6 targets) in Week 3 of 2022, Jefferson has been a nightmare. His last 3 games he has faced Detroit
  • 2022 Week 13: 15 targets 11-223-0
  • 2023 Week 16: 10 targets 6-141-1
  • 2024 Week 18: 14 targets 12-192-1
 
RE: the two open roster spots

6th Round Pick G Christian Mahogany (Boston College) has one more week left in his IR-R window

MCDC was noncommittal about him this week but I'm wondering if they want to carry him on the 53 man

If they "redshirt" him, e.g., leave him on IR all year, it is of course not a redshirt year - it's a lost year, and he'll still be a FA after 2027

Dude has some great college tape, absolutely think he could be a starter when Glasgow and Zeitler move on - hoping they activate him so he can keep getting reps during the week
 
DL Pat O'Connor (6’4” 300 Eastern Michigan) has been signed off the practice squad to fill Kyle Peko's spot. Originally drafted in the 7th round by Detroit in 2017, he has spent his entire career (2017, 2019-23) with Tampa Bay as a rotational guy & core special teamer, picking up a ring in Super Bowl LV. Practice squad only so far in 2024.

52 on the active roster, leaving 1 spot open.

UDFA rookie Issac Ukwu (Mississippi) was elevated, along with TE Shane Zylstra (Minnesota State!) Ukwu could play a lot on Sunday as part of the Hutchinson replacement rotation.

He played 36 snaps vs Dallas in his season debut - Onwuzurike (50) and Pascal (41) were the only DL who played more snaps - and graded out well. 3 sacks and a FF in the preseason.
 
Great win. i did not sit down the whole second half..my wife kept saying "Sit down you are making me nervous. Bates had some funky spin on his FG..at first I thought it was going wide then it straightened out.

The only bad thing I could think of was the botched fake punt. I swear right before the snap I thought it was going to be a fake..but so did Minny. Nobody was fooled.

Monty's fumble was tough as it was punched out. Really don`t know how RBs even hang on to the ball anymore. Defenders don`t even try to tackle first, it is punch the ball then tackle.

Goff was superb. Greg Olsen raved about what a high level he was playing at. Goff and St were both clutch all day

Was surprised Williams did not any action at all. Thought as least one reverse would be called.

One thing that was very noticeable was Hutch missing. No edge pressure at all. That led the Vikings to clamp down on the middle rush. Darnold had all day for the most part. Hutch drawing double teams really opens it up even if he does not get there.
 
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The bridge QB is actually good eh

Bobby..please give us Readers numbers or grades. You know this stuff.

Not saying he is not a good player, but do not see him being an impact player. Been watching and never see him doing much.

this week's grades will be up by noon

through Week 6, he had played 4 out of 5 games, and his grade of 78.1 was 9th out of 128 qualifying (85 or more snaps) interior DL. McNeill is 7th.

they're basically the best tandem in the NFL - or at least as good as Seattle's top 2 guys, Jarran Reed and Leonard Williams.
 
The only name for the Lions to go get as far as a pass rusher is Za'Darius Smith. At this point, Maxx Crosby is way too out of reach, and Haason Reddick will FINALLY report to the Jets. Za'Darius Smith has done nothing since he got to Cleveland, so he could resurrect his career under Dan Campbell. And he's the kind of player Dan Campbell really has no problem with.
 
This is the Ultimate (specific) Most Lions Stat Ever, courtesy of the Check The Mic podcast.

Situational Split: 3rd or 4th down, 4 to 8 yards to go - obvious passing down - RB success rate (filter out QB scrambles); they called these Disrespectful Runs 2023 & 2024:
  1. Detroit has 12 First Downs on Disrespectful Runs
  2. Next highest 7
Most teams, if they pull that off, it’s on a delay or old school draw. Ben Johnson is like “hmmm 4th & 6, probably gonna be a light box, let’s go outside zone run here.”

Montgomery has 6 Disrespectful Runs for first down, Gibbs 4.

+0.86 EPA on Disrespectful Runs

Forward thinking - run on 3rd down because with where they’re at wrt field position, they’re going for it on 4th down anyway.
 
This should be worth the watch, for those who don't live in Detroit I assume he will share a link after it airs.


Edit: the embed/preview doesn't seem to be working, here is the text (Dan Miller tweet):

Just sat down with @JaredGoff16 to talk about the incredible run he and this offense are on. Also got his take on their huge win yesterday with all three phases coming up big. Catch it tonight on @FOX2News at 6:15. See you then!
 

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