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2025 Offseason Rankings and such (2 Viewers)

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Dynasty rankings:
  • FBG Bellefeuil: 1/22
  • FBG Davenport: 1/29
  • FBG Haseley: 1/27
  • FBG Norton: 2/4
  • FBG Haggan: 2/4
  • IDP Show: Continuously updated
  • DLF: Rankings on 1/16, 1/20, and 1/30.
  • IDP+: Per their Discord, this was updated 1/22. I don't know how to see that date on the rankings page (the Updated date just shows today's date always).
  • FantasyPros has one ranking from 1/9, but I can't figure out who it is. Always use them with caution because they sometimes average in some awful rankings. The set from 1/9 looks awful to me (Baun LB70 well behind Jerome Baker).
 
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IDP Guys seems to have very out of date dynasty rankings currently - Devin White top 25 LB.
 
Some players whose rankings stick out to me so far:
  • Kam Curl/Quentin Lake: Curl was S43 in PPG this season in the league I'm checking... why is he a top-20 dynasty safety still given his role in LA? Lake was S28 in PPG... why isn't he ranked at all? Some kind of database error?
  • Yaya Diaby: DE25 in PPG this season and young... Davenport has him at DE143 and Haseley has him at DE89. Did he lose a leg?
  • Jerome Baker: 3 teams decided they didn't want him starting for them in 2024, I can't see ranking him above guys like Dennis and Carlies.
  • Adam Butler: DT13 in PPG, why is he ranked around dynasty DT130 by Davenport and Haseley?
  • Nick Herbig: Hard to figure out what to do with him buried behind Watt and Highsmith, but I'd sure rather have a good young blocked DE on my roster than unstartable vets like Bud Dupree, Lorenzo Carter, Cam Jordan, Preston Smith, etc.
  • CJGJ: S50 in PPG, still only 27... but S25 in dynasty seems high.
 
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Adam Butler: DT13 in PPG, why is he ranked around dynasty DT130 by Davenport and Haseley?
Butler is 30 yrs old and got a lot of his run this year once Wilkins went on the IR. I would have to assume he takes a pretty big hit next year with Wilkins back and healthy and couple that with his age he probably should be done somewhat on the list.......but DT130 is way off base for sure.
 
Nick Herbig: Hard to figure out what to do with him buried behind Watt and Highsmith, but I'd sure rather have a good young blocked DE on my roster than unstartable vets like Bud Dupree, Lorenzo Carter, Cam Jordan, Preston Smith, etc.
Herbig is a tough guy to evaluate for sure. He has put up great numbers when given the chance. It almost seems like the Steelers should use him with Watt/Highsmith for three good pass rushers. I think he is also decent vs the run. But as far as ranking him I have no idea where I would actually put him. It would definitely be above the olders guys you listed though.
 
Adam Butler: DT13 in PPG, why is he ranked around dynasty DT130 by Davenport and Haseley?
Butler is 30 yrs old and got a lot of his run this year once Wilkins went on the IR. I would have to assume he takes a pretty big hit next year with Wilkins back and healthy and couple that with his age he probably should be done somewhat on the list.......but DT130 is way off base for sure.
Great point, I forgot about Wilkins - that explains it fully. Thanks.
 
Herbig is definitely tough to rank but I'm holding him everywhere I could get him. He's shown great ability and the Steelers have shown great ability drafting edge guys. Mine are large rosters, though (50+).

Highsmith has the 'Potential out in 2025' note on Spotrac and his contract is noted as "...breaks down to a 2 year, $27.743M contract for practical purposes." The salary makes a massive jump to 13M, 14M, 15M if they keep him. TJ Watt has only 2025 remaining on his deal with a salary of 21M this past season and 21M for 2025. Without looking at PIT's salary cap situation, I would still wager there's no way they see 40M+ wrapped up in two edge players as a sustainable cost over the next 3-5 seasons. That is especially true given how good Herbig (and his rookie deal) look.
 
Troy Reeder activated from IR - it'll be interesting to see if he takes any time from Rozeboom.
 
Norton rankings came out yesterday. Weird - Milano and Greenlaw 1-2 at LB. There must be something weird about the system they use to rank that puts Milano near the top by default.

Also has Laiatu Latu at E131 and Dallas Turner at E168.
 
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Troy Reeder activated from IR - it'll be interesting to see if he takes any time from Rozeboom.
Never mind - not healthy enough yet to be active. I guess we have 8 months to guess.
He's a free agent. Everyone is except for Speights. I don't think we'll need to wait 8 months. We'll know come March how highly they think of Speights and we'll see where Rozenboom ends up. I don't think Reeder is a serious threat to anyone's PT, in LA or elsewhere. Best case scenario is in case of emergency, break open glass.
 
I added some updated ranking links. Oluokun seems to be an odd one to rank - seems like he should be ranked top-3 or 20-or-lower, nowhere in between, based on assumptions about what a new DC will do.
 
I don't understand FBG's ordering of players in their rankings.

I'm restricting the rankings to 4 sets (those that came out in January).
Jessie Bates: 10, 6, 4, 1
Antoine Winfield: 3, 1, 1, 7

What math puts Bates as S1 and Winfield as S2? Winfield beats Bates on average, drop highest average, drop lowest average, drop highest and lowest average... I can't see one that puts Bates ahead of Winfield.
 
Has anyone seen any articles on new coaches and how they affect schemes? Maybe everyone's waiting on the Saints.
 
Hmm - the Haggan rankings are the weirdest I've seen. I wonder if they're still from before last season, just redated rather than reworked. I see lots of ranked free agent LBs like Davion Taylor, Travin Howard, Blake Lynch, Tyrell Adams, Andrew Dowell, and Ryan Connelly, but no ranking for Demarvion Overshown, Jaylon Carlies, Christian Rozeboom, SirVocea Dennis, or Omar Speights... and these rankings that are very far off of consensus:
91 Edgerrin Cooper
81 Frankie Luvu
109 Zach Baun
82 Kaden Elliss
126 Jamien Sherwood
 

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