2025 Philadelphia Eagles - We owe you one, Cleveland! (28 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

Per John Clark

It’s my understanding that the Eagles are doing everything they can to keep money available to keep the core of their team together and they want to see what third round draft pick Sydney Brown can do at safety. He will compete at safety with Cj Gardner Johnson traded. They are building depth on the Oline and Mekhi Becton is still on the table for the line. Howie Roseman had said it will be a different offseason and they need to play younger players.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Former Eagle Miles Sanders got released by the Panthers

I’ll 100% take him as a back up

He looked absolutely horrible last year and I think they love Will Shipley

I can't believe some team hasn't sign Gainwell already. I was told he was starter material.

He’s not starting material and at 27 Sanders is a great back up option

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Reid to the Saints

 

[unckeyherb]

CJ GARDNER JOHNSON TRADED TO TEXANS WTF

I hate this

That was my first reaction.

 

[Insein]

Gainwell to the Steelers.

 

[DJackson10]

Former Eagle Miles Sanders got released by the Panthers

I’ll 100% take him as a back up

He looked absolutely horrible last year and I think they love Will Shipley

I can't believe some team hasn't sign Gainwell already. I was told he was starter material.

He’s not starting material and at 27 Sanders is a great back up option

Yeah he’s not but I think letting Gainwell go they’ll take Shipley at 2 and try to either draft another guy or sign a guy after draft

 

[DJackson10]

Gainwell to the Steelers.

Somehow someway that signing makes sense

 

[DJackson10]

Titans eagles and Saints were all in it till the end for Justin Reid. Per James Palmer

 

[DJackson10]

Giants gave Darius Slayton this year almost same deal we gave Barkley last year to come here.

Also hearing Giants having issues signing people because players and agents know the GM is a snake and lesser extent don’t trust the coach.

 

[DJackson10]

“I think they are more likely to shed more salary than acquire more salary. That’s how I feel right now. So, you’re asking if there’s a trick up their sleeve? No, again, I think they are more likely to shed – shed – more salaries, make more moves the other way, more outgoing than incoming, I think.

- @AdamSchefter says the Eagles are more likely to depart with players similar to trading C.J. Gardner-Johnson than they are to acquire players.

(via Kincade & Salciunas)

 

[Snotbubbles]

My social media feed is hilarious today:

"In negotiations with the Browns, Myles Garrett demanded $40M per year and for the team to acquire a Super Bowl winning QB. The Browns said, deal."

 

[Deranged Hermit]

“I think they are more likely to shed more salary than acquire more salary. That’s how I feel right now. So, you’re asking if there’s a trick up their sleeve? No, again, I think they are more likely to shed – shed – more salaries, make more moves the other way, more outgoing than incoming, I think.

- @AdamSchefter says the Eagles are more likely to depart with players similar to trading C.J. Gardner-Johnson than they are to acquire players.

(via Kincade & Salciunas)

Hey, anyone who says they didn't see this coming is lying to themselves. Howie went all out to win the SB and they did. Even with the team they have now they could do it again, they'll just have to get lucky with injuries. They'll build again in the draft and go hard after vets that get cut in training camp.
They'll be fine

 

[ProstheticRGK]

So, what are the chances that Malachi Stark is available at 32?

Swiss Army knife Safety, can play post or box, Georgia Bulldog. I would not be unhappy with that pick.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So, what are the chances that Malachi Stark is available at 32?

Swiss Army knife Safety, can play post or box, Georgia Bulldog. I would not be unhappy with that pick.

If that's the guy Howie wants, somehow, someway, he'll fall to 32.

 

[need2know]

Titans eagles and Saints were all in it till the end for Justin Reid. Per James Palmer

Seems dumb for the saints or titans to want him. They are not a high priced safety away from anything.

 

[Terpman22]

So, what are the chances that Malachi Stark is available at 32?

Swiss Army knife Safety, can play post or box, Georgia Bulldog. I would not be unhappy with that pick.

Either he or the South Carolina dude.

Why not

 

[Zeppelin]

Hey, anyone who says they didn't see this coming is lying to themselves. Howie went all out to win the SB and they did. Even with the team they have now they could do it again, they'll just have to get lucky with injuries. They'll build again in the draft and go hard after vets that get cut in training camp.
They'll be fine

You guys didn't get ridiculous with free agent contracts, you just have a lot of good players and they cost money.

 

[Zeppelin]

You guys know how to draft so you can keep churning your roster with good young players.

 

[Terpman22]

You guys know how to draft so you can keep churning your roster with good young players.

Depth is still paramount. Missed draft picks and injuries can tank you quickly

 

[Zeppelin]

You guys know how to draft so you can keep churning your roster with good young players.

Depth is still paramount. Missed draft picks and injuries can tank you quickly

Agree. We found that out last year when we had 5 players play meaningful snaps in a game after being here 5 days. Of course, it was pretty extreme with the insane amount of injuries that we had but you have to have quality depth.

 

[Zeppelin]

It’s my understanding that the Eagles are doing everything they can to keep money available to keep the core of their team together

Brad Holmes is doing this and is getting a lot of criticism not just in the Lions thread but with fans that call into talk radio shows.

 

[DJackson10]

So, what are the chances that Malachi Stark is available at 32?

Swiss Army knife Safety, can play post or box, Georgia Bulldog. I would not be unhappy with that pick.

Either he or the South Carolina dude.

Why not

Stark or Makuba from Texas

 

[jasvic]

I think everyone here might be overlooking the possibility that the beer can to the head did more damage to Howie than was let on.

 

[Terpman22]

I think everyone here might be overlooking the possibility that the beer can to the head did more damage to Howie than was let on.

Look at what the 49ers are doing right now. No Eagles fan wants an offseason like this. You gotta try to stay ahead of the curve or eventually this happens.

And they haven't even paid their QB yet.

 

[Terpman22]

We got Ben Van Sumeran re-signed.

Repeat Confirmed.

 

[renesauz]

Former Eagle Miles Sanders got released by the Panthers

I’ll 100% take him as a back up

He looked absolutely horrible last year and I think they love Will Shipley

I can't believe some team hasn't sign Gainwell already. I was told he was starter material.

very deep RB draft though

 

[DJackson10]

$10 for 1yr for Slay in Pitt

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

AJ Dillon signed. He's only 26, I love him as a backup to Saquon.

 

[Insein]

Eagles sign AJ Dillon

 

[Terpman22]

AJ Dillon signed. He's only 26, I love him as a backup to Saquon.

LOVE this move.

Its a deep RB draft, but we don't NEED to spend draft capital there now.

WOOHOO

 

[DJackson10]

AJ Dillon signed. He's only 26, I love him as a backup to Saquon.

Really good player if healthy a powerback too. Big upgrade over gainwell

 

[DJackson10]

We got Ben Van Sumeran re-signed.

Repeat Confirmed.

They just listed him at FB and not LB too. Very interesting

 

[need2know]

Dillon will eat with this oline

 

[JohnnyU]

Dillon will eat with this oline

Are they going to Mickey D’s?

 

[Terpman22]

8.8 career yards per catch.

Kenny G replacement + 4th Q closer.

Love it!

 

[need2know]

Dillon will eat with this oline

Are they going to Mickey D’s?

Good luck with danny dimes

 

[JohnnyU]

Dillon will eat with this oline

Are they going to Mickey D’s?

Good luck with danny dimes

What the hell does that have to do with Dillon and the Eagles?

 

[Insein]

Yea the Dillon signing is nothing but depth to me. He's not carrying the backfield if Saquon goes down. He's often injured and has declined in production every year. Does save us from having to draft a RB though. Use it on OL and DL lotto picks.

 

[need2know]

Dillon will eat with this oline

Are they going to Mickey D’s?

Good luck with danny dimes

What the hell does that have to do with Dillon and the Eagles?

i meant good luck with danny dimes. Good day sir

 

[need2know]

Yea the Dillon signing is nothing but depth to me. He's not carrying the backfield if Saquon goes down. He's often injured and has declined in production every year. Does save us from having to draft a RB though. Use it on OL and DL lotto picks.

I still think they should draft a late one. Class is deep

 

[JohnnyU]

Dillon will eat with this oline

Are they going to Mickey D’s?

Good luck with danny dimes

What the hell does that have to do with Dillon and the Eagles?

i meant good luck with danny dimes. Good day sir

Weird response in a discussion about Dillon. Very odd.

 

[Insein]

Yea the Dillon signing is nothing but depth to me. He's not carrying the backfield if Saquon goes down. He's often injured and has declined in production every year. Does save us from having to draft a RB though. Use it on OL and DL lotto picks.

I still think they should draft a late one. Class is deep

I feel like they'll be some UDFA's available after it's over.

 

[need2know]

Yea the Dillon signing is nothing but depth to me. He's not carrying the backfield if Saquon goes down. He's often injured and has declined in production every year. Does save us from having to draft a RB though. Use it on OL and DL lotto picks.

I still think they should draft a late one. Class is deep

I feel like they'll be some UDFA's available after it's over.

Prob so

 

[Terpman22]

Josh Uche!!! LFG Repeat confirmed

 

[DJackson10]

Josh Uche!!! LFG Repeat confirmed

Guy I wanted them to target last year

 

[The Noid]

What we're seeing is definitely a shift of the finite resources (money) that the cap brings. LB and RB were two roster positions we usually went light on to be able to pay more for guys at other positions. But we suddenly have 2 guys that (justifiably) require more money to be spent there, so we have to go cheaper at other spots using rookies or low-dollar flyers. The defense is mostly being affected, but TE is also likely to be where we get more frugal on the other side of the ball for awhile. We still have a loaded offense with the Oline and weapons, and a pretty good core on D.

If you push down on one side of a balloon, the other side goes up, but it's still the same amount of air in there.

And we've seen them get ahead of the cap by re-signing guys early, but I think we're also seeing an effort to get ahead of the cap by doing some of these cuts/trades now like CJGJ that don't really give us any benefit immediately, but will in future years when we have to start paying those younger guys currently on rookie deals. You can use the future cap increases to a degree, but if that's still not going to be enough you need to plan ahead. Wouldn't be surprised if we wind up taking a sizeable cap carryover from this season into next, too.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

What we're seeing is definitely a shift of the finite resources (money) that the cap brings. LB and RB were two roster positions we usually went light on to be able to pay more for guys at other positions. But we suddenly have 2 guys that (justifiably) require more money to be spent there, so we have to go cheaper at other spots using rookies or low-dollar flyers. The defense is mostly being affected, but TE is also likely to be where we get more frugal on the other side of the ball for awhile. We still have a loaded offense with the Oline and weapons, and a pretty good core on D.

If you push down on one side of a balloon, the other side goes up, but it's still the same amount of air in there.

And we've seen them get ahead of the cap by re-signing guys early, but I think we're also seeing an effort to get ahead of the cap by doing some of these cuts/trades now like CJGJ that don't really give us any benefit immediately, but will in future years when we have to start paying those younger guys currently on rookie deals. You can use the future cap increases to a degree, but if that's still not going to be enough you need to plan ahead. Wouldn't be surprised if we wind up taking a sizeable cap carryover from this season into next, too.

So, one of the things I’ve heard some beat reporters talk about this season is the difference between the cap and cash. I still don’t completely understand it at a granular level, but makes sense from a broad perspective. The cap is where Howie can work his magic, load dummy years, renegotiate contracts to give raises and manipulate the costs.

Cash is how much money the team actually has allocated from Lurie to spend on players. In that context, moves like trading CJGJ and Goedert make way more sense. Not really significant cap savings, but real cash savings on the year to meet the budget. This year, they’re focusing on saving cash- shedding contracts that have to actually be paid out this year.

I know that seems obvious, but I wasn’t even thinking about a real budget vs the cap. Especially with Lurie wanting more liquid capital lately, with the rumors of him selling off a minority stake in the team.

There are still more moves to come, probably not huge splashes like Saquon or a big-name EDGE, but some lotto pick FAs for depth.

 

[need2know]

What we're seeing is definitely a shift of the finite resources (money) that the cap brings. LB and RB were two roster positions we usually went light on to be able to pay more for guys at other positions. But we suddenly have 2 guys that (justifiably) require more money to be spent there, so we have to go cheaper at other spots using rookies or low-dollar flyers. The defense is mostly being affected, but TE is also likely to be where we get more frugal on the other side of the ball for awhile. We still have a loaded offense with the Oline and weapons, and a pretty good core on D.

If you push down on one side of a balloon, the other side goes up, but it's still the same amount of air in there.

And we've seen them get ahead of the cap by re-signing guys early, but I think we're also seeing an effort to get ahead of the cap by doing some of these cuts/trades now like CJGJ that don't really give us any benefit immediately, but will in future years when we have to start paying those younger guys currently on rookie deals. You can use the future cap increases to a degree, but if that's still not going to be enough you need to plan ahead. Wouldn't be surprised if we wind up taking a sizeable cap carryover from this season into next, too.

At some point either aj or devonta will be gone. Wonder which one they keep

 

[The Noid]

What we're seeing is definitely a shift of the finite resources (money) that the cap brings. LB and RB were two roster positions we usually went light on to be able to pay more for guys at other positions. But we suddenly have 2 guys that (justifiably) require more money to be spent there, so we have to go cheaper at other spots using rookies or low-dollar flyers. The defense is mostly being affected, but TE is also likely to be where we get more frugal on the other side of the ball for awhile. We still have a loaded offense with the Oline and weapons, and a pretty good core on D.

If you push down on one side of a balloon, the other side goes up, but it's still the same amount of air in there.

And we've seen them get ahead of the cap by re-signing guys early, but I think we're also seeing an effort to get ahead of the cap by doing some of these cuts/trades now like CJGJ that don't really give us any benefit immediately, but will in future years when we have to start paying those younger guys currently on rookie deals. You can use the future cap increases to a degree, but if that's still not going to be enough you need to plan ahead. Wouldn't be surprised if we wind up taking a sizeable cap carryover from this season into next, too.

So, one of the things I’ve heard some beat reporters talk about this season is the difference between the cap and cash. I still don’t completely understand it at a granular level, but makes sense from a broad perspective. The cap is where Howie can work his magic, load dummy years, renegotiate contracts to give raises and manipulate the costs.

Cash is how much money the team actually has allocated from Lurie to spend on players. In that context, moves like trading CJGJ and Goedert make way more sense. Not really significant cap savings, but real cash savings on the year to meet the budget. This year, they’re focusing on saving cash- shedding contracts that have to actually be paid out this year.

I know that seems obvious, but I wasn’t even thinking about a real budget vs the cap. Especially with Lurie wanting more liquid capital lately, with the rumors of him selling off a minority stake in the team.

There are still more moves to come, probably not huge splashes like Saquon or a big-name EDGE, but some lotto pick FAs for depth.

Right, if you want to convert someone's 3 future year $10M salary's to a $30M signing bonus in the current year (which helps spread the cap hit out over years down the road, including dummy years, and frees up cap space), you have to be able to hand that player a check right then for that $30 million amount. It's why many teams don't do that (Dallas, for one), because it's like paying off a house now instead of monthly over time and the owner doesn't want to use their money for that (or sometimes, they just can't afford to.)

 

[Terpman22]

What we're seeing is definitely a shift of the finite resources (money) that the cap brings. LB and RB were two roster positions we usually went light on to be able to pay more for guys at other positions. But we suddenly have 2 guys that (justifiably) require more money to be spent there, so we have to go cheaper at other spots using rookies or low-dollar flyers. The defense is mostly being affected, but TE is also likely to be where we get more frugal on the other side of the ball for awhile. We still have a loaded offense with the Oline and weapons, and a pretty good core on D.

If you push down on one side of a balloon, the other side goes up, but it's still the same amount of air in there.

And we've seen them get ahead of the cap by re-signing guys early, but I think we're also seeing an effort to get ahead of the cap by doing some of these cuts/trades now like CJGJ that don't really give us any benefit immediately, but will in future years when we have to start paying those younger guys currently on rookie deals. You can use the future cap increases to a degree, but if that's still not going to be enough you need to plan ahead. Wouldn't be surprised if we wind up taking a sizeable cap carryover from this season into next, too.

At some point either aj or devonta will be gone. Wonder which one they keep

I heard this a lot last offseason "Can't keep both guys" then both guys got big extensions the same offseason.