2025 Philadelphia Eagles - We owe you one, Cleveland! (34 Viewers)

[need2know]

The BG over Thomas decision did not help the Reid regime at all. BG didn't do much his first three years, and then Reid was fired.
He actually got better in the Kelly regime despite having to switch to linebacker in Billy Davis' defense.
And then he reached his full potential when Doug was hired; he was a great fit in Schwartz' defense. And he continued that into the Nick regime.

BG getting injured isn't what made Andy Reid turn his OL coach into a DC or the fact his son OD'd on team property b/c he was doing drugs.
There were a lot of moves that telegraphed AR's departure, but BG getting hurt early in his career is a non factor.

BG was just a worker with a tireless motor and a non stop positive energy. This is what was most responsible for his success. This was innate in him.

Every single coaching staff he was on was lucky to have him on their team and in their locker room.

Hope he sticks around the team.

Yeah he seems like a future coach

 

[Snotbubbles]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

One of the more crazy things you’ve said. Thomas was a great player. Period.

 

[renesauz]

BG strip sack of Brady in 52 is top 5 play in Franchise history.

What are your other 4?

Philly Philly
The Dagger
Backwards Hurdle
Opening Handoff TD NFCCG 2025

A lot of recency bias.

In no order

BG strip sack of Brady
Jackson Punt return
Philly Philly
Stopping Smith twice vs Dallas
Lito Pick 6 vs Romo on Prime Time or the Wentz escape where he throws the TD pass

Honorable mention Our first NFC Conference Title win with Andy

How about Cunningham bouncing off Carl Banks to throw a TD?
Third and 26?
Jackson Punt return?
Philly Philly
and the Graham strip sack of Brady might slide into slot 5.

 

[JAA]

BG to announce his official retirement

One of the all time favorites here for a variety of reasons. So glad he stayed for the entire career and won a couple rings. Couldn’t be happier for him and I’m sure he’ll end up coaching at some point.

I remember all the clowns who wanted Earl Thomas. ET was good for bit then faded after he like many in Sea left that system. We also found out ET wasn’t a great person.

BG took a bit to get going but after he did there was no stopping him. Great teammate, top trash talker and he was consistent much longer. Really happy to see guys stay their careers in one city team. So rare in sports. Heck I thought Tom and Peyton would be Patriot and Colt forever and that didn’t happen.

In the last year guys spent their whole careers here and retired as legends. Proud to also adopt them as Delco Boys too with their families.

I just got home so didn’t get to see any of the retirement speech yet

That was me. I hated the pick until we won the first SB. Now BG is my hero.

JFC - just saying "the first SB" is still so foreign to me

 

[JAA]

BG strip sack of Brady in 52 is top 5 play in Franchise history.

What are your other 4?

Philly Philly
The Dagger
Backwards Hurdle
Opening Handoff TD NFCCG 2025

A lot of recency bias.

In no order

BG strip sack of Brady
Jackson Punt return
Philly Philly
Stopping Smith twice vs Dallas
Lito Pick 6 vs Romo on Prime Time or the Wentz escape where he throws the TD pass

Honorable mention Our first NFC Conference Title win with Andy

no 4th and 26?

 

[Insein]

BG strip sack of Brady in 52 is top 5 play in Franchise history.

What are your other 4?

Philly Philly
The Dagger
Backwards Hurdle
Opening Handoff TD NFCCG 2025

A lot of recency bias.

In no order

BG strip sack of Brady
Jackson Punt return
Philly Philly
Stopping Smith twice vs Dallas
Lito Pick 6 vs Romo on Prime Time or the Wentz escape where he throws the TD pass

Honorable mention Our first NFC Conference Title win with Andy

no 4th and 26?

Would have been better if they made the super bowl. Would have been legendary if they won it.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

BG strip sack of Brady in 52 is top 5 play in Franchise history.

What are your other 4?

Philly Philly
The Dagger
Backwards Hurdle
Opening Handoff TD NFCCG 2025

A lot of recency bias.

For more recency bias, there's the DeJean pick 6. That's when my brain said, we are winning this game.

Original miracle at the meadowlands with herm Edwards playing to win the game

 

[need2know]

So who do you guys like in the tourney? Flordia looks strong to me

 

[DJackson10]

Fun BG facts.

Graham is the last 1st round pick from his draft class to retire.

BG is also the last remaining member of the Andy Reid era that was pick by Big Red.

Lane Johnson and Jake Elliot are the only remaining players from the SB52 Championship Squad

 

[DJackson10]

BG strip sack of Brady in 52 is top 5 play in Franchise history.

What are your other 4?

Philly Philly
The Dagger
Backwards Hurdle
Opening Handoff TD NFCCG 2025

A lot of recency bias.

In no order

BG strip sack of Brady
Jackson Punt return
Philly Philly
Stopping Smith twice vs Dallas
Lito Pick 6 vs Romo on Prime Time or the Wentz escape where he throws the TD pass

Honorable mention Our first NFC Conference Title win with Andy

no 4th and 26?

For whatever reason I totally forgot about in that moment. Still one of my favorites and have a commemorative shirt from that my Grandparents gave me.

 

[DJackson10]

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

One of the more crazy things you’ve said. Thomas was a great player. Period.

Most of that squad outside of lynch was a product of that system. When many of those guys went elsewhere they struggled big time to even duplicate any numbers similar.

 

[DJackson10]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

Pro bowls don’t mean a thing anymore. It’s just a popularity contest anymore.

 

[DJackson10]

The BG over Thomas decision did not help the Reid regime at all. BG didn't do much his first three years, and then Reid was fired.
He actually got better in the Kelly regime despite having to switch to linebacker in Billy Davis' defense.
And then he reached his full potential when Doug was hired; he was a great fit in Schwartz' defense. And he continued that into the Nick regime.

BG getting injured isn't what made Andy Reid turn his OL coach into a DC or the fact his son OD'd on team property b/c he was doing drugs.
There were a lot of moves that telegraphed AR's departure, but BG getting hurt early in his career is a non factor.

BG was just a worker with a tireless motor and a non stop positive energy. This is what was most responsible for his success. This was innate in him.

Every single coaching staff he was on was lucky to have him on their team and in their locker room.

Hope he sticks around the team.

Yeah he seems like a future coach

He’s most likely going into broadcasting it sounds like from what I heard.

 

[DJackson10]

So who do you guys like in the tourney? Flordia looks strong to me

It’s either Florida or Duke. No one else really stands out. This has been Florida’s best team tourney wise since Billy Donovan was running things and best team they’ve had since he left that’s been this dominant.

Florida doesn’t have the top prospects like Duke or a Cooper Flagg but they have a great group of talent and run deep. They play an 8-9 man rotation and crazy thing is their 10 and 11 player coming off could start on most others teams in the Tourney. So they are deep. They also have continuity and experience on their side. Alex Condon came back after he was injured last year at the end to finish what he had built. They also redshirted Olivier Rioux who will be the tallest player in ncaa history when he plays next year at 7-9 (yes that’s not a typo) who played AAU ball.

I think teams who have played more together are more dangerous in these 1 and done games over the teams who might have the most talent just because they got the experience.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So who do you guys like in the tourney? Flordia looks strong to me

It’s either Florida or Duke. No one else really stands out. This has been Florida’s best team tourney wise since Billy Donovan was running things and best team they’ve had since he left that’s been this dominant.

Florida doesn’t have the top prospects like Duke or a Cooper Flagg but they have a great group of talent and run deep. They play an 8-9 man rotation and crazy thing is their 10 and 11 player coming off could start on most others teams in the Tourney. So they are deep. They also have continuity and experience on their side. Alex Condon came back after he was injured last year at the end to finish what he had built. They also redshirted Olivier Rioux who will be the tallest player in ncaa history when he plays next year at 7-9 (yes that’s not a typo) who played AAU ball.

I think teams who have played more together are more dangerous in these 1 and done games over the teams who might have the most talent just because they got the experience.

Agree here. Florida is tough, but there is something about Duke this year. I have those two meeting in the Championship.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Today at my firm we had a March Madness party. None other than Brandon Graham showed up and I got a photo with him and a signed photo.

He said staying a part of the organization, he's working with Sirianni on the right fit. He said he doesn't want to do something that will take up a lot of his time so I think coaching is out for him. Maybe something like community outreach.

He's the best. So nice and humble.

 

[DJackson10]

So who do you guys like in the tourney? Flordia looks strong to me

It’s either Florida or Duke. No one else really stands out. This has been Florida’s best team tourney wise since Billy Donovan was running things and best team they’ve had since he left that’s been this dominant.

Florida doesn’t have the top prospects like Duke or a Cooper Flagg but they have a great group of talent and run deep. They play an 8-9 man rotation and crazy thing is their 10 and 11 player coming off could start on most others teams in the Tourney. So they are deep. They also have continuity and experience on their side. Alex Condon came back after he was injured last year at the end to finish what he had built. They also redshirted Olivier Rioux who will be the tallest player in ncaa history when he plays next year at 7-9 (yes that’s not a typo) who played AAU ball.

I think teams who have played more together are more dangerous in these 1 and done games over the teams who might have the most talent just because they got the experience.

Agree here. Florida is tough, but there is something about Duke this year. I have those two meeting in the Championship.

Me too but I’ve learned with this tournament continuity is pretty dangerous. Many of these stack teams with the one and dones might be great but then you got talented teams who have a squad who’s played 2-3 yrs together and to me that’s a big thing when it comes down to crunch time

 

[DJackson10]

Today at my firm we had a March Madness party. None other than Brandon Graham showed up and I got a photo with him and a signed photo.

He said staying a part of the organization, he's working with Sirianni on the right fit. He said he doesn't want to do something that will take up a lot of his time so I think coaching is out for him. Maybe something like community outreach.

He's the best. So nice and humble.

I met him again at Carl Cards which is like 5-8 mins from my house. He’s interested in doing something in media too. Maybe like a guest spot on radio or a podcast where he’s on 1-2 days a week and has the rest of his week free. Jason and Travis are trying to get him to do an episode on the podcast too.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

I'm a Michigan Wolverines fan and I agree with this. It's like saying Frank Gore was a better RB than Gayle Sayers or Terrell Davis. Longevity is nice, and BG was certainly a good player for a long time, but Thomas was special.

 

[Deamon]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

I'm a Michigan Wolverines fan and I agree with this. It's like saying Frank Gore was a better RB than Gayle Sayers or Terrell Davis. Longevity is nice, and BG was certainly a good player for a long time, but Thomas was special.

Guess that's a good question... would you rather an A+ player that plays for 10 seasons, or an A- player that plays for 15?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

I'm a Michigan Wolverines fan and I agree with this. It's like saying Frank Gore was a better RB than Gayle Sayers or Terrell Davis. Longevity is nice, and BG was certainly a good player for a long time, but Thomas was special.

Guess that's a good question... would you rather an A+ player that plays for 10 seasons, or an A- player that plays for 15?

Financially, if you're a player, you take 15 seasons because of the $$$$$.

 

[DJackson10]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

 

[Zeppelin]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

 

[need2know]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

hes ok. wont miss him much though

 

[Insein]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

Good player. Not great. Had trouble staying healthy.

 

[Terpman22]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

Physical/smart player. A little too physical, but when healthy, he is an average to above average nickel at this point in his career. His last couple years though, even when healthy, the production level did drop off a bit.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

hes ok. wont miss him much though

We’ll rn he’s 3rd string slot corner so not sure he’ll be on the 53-man

feisty little guy, at times he has played well per PFF

boy, it’s something of a rarity these days a 4th rounder plays 7 years for the team that drafted him, right?

does not play special teams so probably just a camp body to compete with Rakestraw



ETA

correction - plays a ton of ST, core 4-phase guy (had more ST snaps last year than the previous 5 seasons combined)

makes more sense now

my bad, must have fat fingered my quick look at PFF on the mobile earlier

 

[need2know]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

hes ok. wont miss him much though

We’ll rn he’s 3rd string slot corner so not sure he’ll be on the 53-man

feisty little guy, at times he has played well per PFF

boy, it’s something of a rarity these days a 4th rounder plays 7 years for the team that drafted him, right?

does not play special teams so probably just a camp body to compete with Rakestraw

Oh they liked him. But he failed a bunch in big spots. Was also injured alot. But i think he belongs on a roster for sure

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

He was solid for years. Low-key one of the better unsung slot CBs in the league. Last year, he was a train wreck and got benched after the bye. Not blaming everything on Maddox, but after they Bye Week was when the D got hot and starting dominating.

Aside from his one major PBU in LIX, his play was pretty bad last year.

 

[Deamon]

I’m old enough to remember when everyone says we should have taken the safety from Texas whose name I forgot over BG. Worked out just right, great career and priceless sack on Brady right when we needed it.

Earl Thomas part of the legion of Boom. ET tampered off had a contract dispute as he wanted to go to Dallas, ended up going to Bal before being cut and hit in trouble for beating on his lady amongst other things. Tried a comeback but not successful.

i think it would have worked out either way. we needed a safety. thomas was way better than bg early. bg looked like a bit of bust after his first couple years.

Earl Thomas was a way better player than BG. 7 pro bowls, 3x AP1, 1x AP2. He just didn't have the longevity that BG had.

ET was more of a product of the system than anything else. Most of the guys on that defense would go elsewhere and suck.

It was weird because as much as the Def players changed sucked the WRS would go elsewhere and actually play competent football.

Earl Thomas had the same amount of pro bowls in Baltimore that BG had in Philly. Earl Thomas was a great player, BG was a good player.

I'm a Michigan Wolverines fan and I agree with this. It's like saying Frank Gore was a better RB than Gayle Sayers or Terrell Davis. Longevity is nice, and BG was certainly a good player for a long time, but Thomas was special.

Guess that's a good question... would you rather an A+ player that plays for 10 seasons, or an A- player that plays for 15?

Financially, if you're a player, you take 15 seasons because of the $$$$$.

I meant which would you rather HAVE on your team haha.

 

[DJackson10]

Hide the females and crab legs in New York Jamie Winston is with the Giants now.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

He was solid for years. Low-key one of the better unsung slot CBs in the league. Last year, he was a train wreck and got benched after the bye. Not blaming everything on Maddox, but after they Bye Week was when the D got hot and starting dominating.

Aside from his one major PBU in LIX, his play was pretty bad last year.

He’s going to be remembered in Philly for

1) breaking up a 4th down pass in the Super Bowl

2) always being injured

 

[The Noid]

Avonte Maddox played 92 games for the Eagles, including playoffs. The last CB/Nickel to play 92+ for us: Joselio Hanson with 97 ('06-'11)

There's been a lot of turnover at the corner spots for us the last 15 seasons, but the Q/Coop duo should change that!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

hes ok. wont miss him much though

We’ll rn he’s 3rd string slot corner so not sure he’ll be on the 53-man

feisty little guy, at times he has played well per PFF

boy, it’s something of a rarity these days a 4th rounder plays 7 years for the team that drafted him, right?

does not play special teams so probably just a camp body to compete with Rakestraw



ETA

correction - plays a ton of ST, core 4-phase guy (had more ST snaps last year than the previous 5 seasons combined)

makes more sense now

my bad, must have fat fingered my quick look at PFF on the mobile earlier

Maddox was a good slot corner for a couple years, but then he kept getting injured. Well past his prime at this point and probably nothing more than veteran depth at this point.

 

[Terpman22]

Finally starting to read up on draft prospects.

Would really like this DT Walter Nolen guy, but man, the class is DEEEEP

 

[JAA]

Avonte Maddox to Det on 1 yr deal

What do you and other Eagles fans think of him?

I like him as a slot corner and depth

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles Are Signing Veteran O-Lineman Kendall Lamm Swing Tackle​

 

[DJackson10]

The #Eagles sent in a Proposal to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome of the first possession

Lions sent in a proposal to realign playoff seeds based on regular season records not just based on winning your division.

 

[Terpman22]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

 

[sm8680]

I'd rather have a winning team whose owner and GM are all about competing and winning the Lombardi trophy. I'd even take the heat due to jealous fans from other teams trying to dissent on the teams winning ways.

I wish my hometown team had your owner and GM. They wouldn't be middling.

You can't win Super Bowls and be beloved. Look at how the Chiefs were so disliked and how happy people were when they didn't three peat.

 

[need2know]

The #Eagles sent in a Proposal to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome of the first possession

Lions sent in a proposal to realign playoff seeds based on regular season records not just based on winning your division.

the lions one is dumb and better not get any votes. win your damn division. if that doesnt matter anymore why even have them

 

[need2know]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

not used to it because rarely have we been this good. breathe it in and enjoy it. its not over yet. we getting another one in the next couple years if not next year

 

[Snotbubbles]

The #Eagles sent in a Proposal to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome of the first possession

Lions sent in a proposal to realign playoff seeds based on regular season records not just based on winning your division.

the lions one is dumb and better not get any votes. win your damn division. if that doesnt matter anymore why even have them

Agree. Until the NFL has a balanced schedule for teams (which it will never have), then teams strength of schedules won't be the same which makes using records iffy to me. A 12-5 team could have had a much tougher road to get to the playoffs than a 13-4 team.

 

[unckeyherb]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

The Sirianni arguments are annoying. When confronted with the facts (one of the highest winning percentages of all time to start his career, never NOT made the playoffs, been to two Super Bowls, won one, etc.) the convo just devolves into he's a chump/hate his antics/punchable face.

I'll be the first to admit I wanted him gone after the '23 meltdown. I knew his record going into that season (having already been to a Super Bowl) and generally didn't believe that the collapse was all his fault, but I was supremely doubtful that he (or anyone, frankly) could turn that disaster around. I thought that the team was broken in a way that anyone involved DURING the collapse couldn't then be a part of building it all back. I was 1000% wrong. What he did following that season, to turn this team into what it became THIS season, was nothing short of miraculous. There are about 2 current NFL coaches apart from him that I believe could have done that.

 

[need2know]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

The Sirianni arguments are annoying. When confronted with the facts (one of the highest winning percentages of all time to start his career, never NOT made the playoffs, been to two Super Bowls, won one, etc.) the convo just devolves into he's a chump/hate his antics/punchable face.

I'll be the first to admit I wanted him gone after the '23 meltdown. I knew his record going into that season (having already been to a Super Bowl) and generally didn't believe that the collapse was all his fault, but I was supremely doubtful that he (or anyone, frankly) could turn that disaster around. I thought that the team was broken in a way that anyone involved DURING the collapse couldn't then be a part of building it all back. I was 1000% wrong. What he did following that season, to turn this team into what it became THIS season, was nothing short of miraculous. There are about 2 current NFL coaches apart from him that I believe could have done that.

i wanted him gone too. but he was money all this season and the players love him. at this point he would have to have multiple really bad seasons to make me want him gone again.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

The Sirianni arguments are annoying. When confronted with the facts (one of the highest winning percentages of all time to start his career, never NOT made the playoffs, been to two Super Bowls, won one, etc.) the convo just devolves into he's a chump/hate his antics/punchable face.

I'll be the first to admit I wanted him gone after the '23 meltdown. I knew his record going into that season (having already been to a Super Bowl) and generally didn't believe that the collapse was all his fault, but I was supremely doubtful that he (or anyone, frankly) could turn that disaster around. I thought that the team was broken in a way that anyone involved DURING the collapse couldn't then be a part of building it all back. I was 1000% wrong. What he did following that season, to turn this team into what it became THIS season, was nothing short of miraculous. There are about 2 current NFL coaches apart from him that I believe could have done that.

 

[Terpman22]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

The Sirianni arguments are annoying. When confronted with the facts (one of the highest winning percentages of all time to start his career, never NOT made the playoffs, been to two Super Bowls, won one, etc.) the convo just devolves into he's a chump/hate his antics/punchable face.

I'll be the first to admit I wanted him gone after the '23 meltdown. I knew his record going into that season (having already been to a Super Bowl) and generally didn't believe that the collapse was all his fault, but I was supremely doubtful that he (or anyone, frankly) could turn that disaster around. I thought that the team was broken in a way that anyone involved DURING the collapse couldn't then be a part of building it all back. I was 1000% wrong. What he did following that season, to turn this team into what it became THIS season, was nothing short of miraculous. There are about 2 current NFL coaches apart from him that I believe could have done that.

i wanted him gone too. but he was money all this season and the players love him. at this point he would have to have multiple really bad seasons to make me want him gone again.

Same haha but wanting him fired from your team isnt the same as saying he is a bottom 25 percentile guy, but I digress.

Championship problems, and I think I agree most of the hate stems from this + the Eagles set up for the future. Not really any more questions about the team outside "is this the start of a dynasty" I suppose.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

The Sirianni thing was weird to me. There were some guys who's opinions I respected who had him ranked in the bottom 5 of coaches. I'm not sure how you rank coaches, but Sirianni is at the very minimum in the top half of NFL coaches just based on the winning his team has done. I think the Sirianni hate is more a personality thing and not a coaching thing.

I think the Super Bowl win has elevated Hurts status a bit, but from a talent perspective he's still outside the top-tier guys, IMO. He's good to great for what the Eagles need him to be. In the Hurts thread I said and I still believe, "he doesn't need to be the best QB in the game, he just needs to be the best version of himself for what the Eagles ask him to do to win."

The Sirianni arguments are annoying. When confronted with the facts (one of the highest winning percentages of all time to start his career, never NOT made the playoffs, been to two Super Bowls, won one, etc.) the convo just devolves into he's a chump/hate his antics/punchable face.

I'll be the first to admit I wanted him gone after the '23 meltdown. I knew his record going into that season (having already been to a Super Bowl) and generally didn't believe that the collapse was all his fault, but I was supremely doubtful that he (or anyone, frankly) could turn that disaster around. I thought that the team was broken in a way that anyone involved DURING the collapse couldn't then be a part of building it all back. I was 1000% wrong. What he did following that season, to turn this team into what it became THIS season, was nothing short of miraculous. There are about 2 current NFL coaches apart from him that I believe could have done that.

i wanted him gone too. but he was money all this season and the players love him. at this point he would have to have multiple really bad seasons to make me want him gone again.

Same haha but wanting him fired from your team isnt the same as saying he is a bottom 25 percentile guy, but I digress.

Championship problems, and I think I agree most of the hate stems from this + the Eagles set up for the future. Not really any more questions about the team outside "is this the start of a dynasty" I suppose.

I wanted him gone to after that Jacksonville game. But after that game, he realized, he didn't need to take chances and just take the points. Made really good coaching decisions from that point on.