2025 Philadelphia Eagles - We owe you one, Cleveland! (33 Viewers)

[Cowboysfan8]

Not sure what it is about the Eagles that drive folks crazy - prob bc we are more football knowledgeable than most, but the non sensical certainly IMO NOT genuine arguments around our team is just...weird

Owner of the site going out of his way to go on some sorta anti Sirianni campaign "what does he do/he ain't good/overrated" to have him win the Super Bowl this year was one of my favorite things.

But he's not alone.

Had guys argue with me going into LAST season using article on Jalen Hurts from 2021, instead of the previous season

Jalen Carter is a murderer

5 million pages of political arguments against the tush push

Its just odd in the face of so much evidence, on a site like this where evidenced based decisions = winning fantasy football, so many folks GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to go against obvious things like

Nick Sirianni - good coach at min, right? This isn't hard.

Jalen Hurt - very good QB at min, right? Also not hard.

Anyway

Go Birds!

Read the post I quoted. . Then read the first sentence again

 

[Insein]

The #Eagles sent in a Proposal to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome of the first possession

Lions sent in a proposal to realign playoff seeds based on regular season records not just based on winning your division.

the lions one is dumb and better not get any votes. win your damn division. if that doesnt matter anymore why even have them

NFL turns into the NBA real fast if divisions mean nothing.

 

[DJackson10]

Per Devin jackson

#Eagles had a formal meeting with Jaydon Blue at the combine, and will bringing him in for a top 30 visit as well. Legit breakaway speed and his game against Clemson gave a sampling of what he brings skill set wise, especially on OZ.

Per jordan Reid of ESPN

4.28 and 4.29 were the two times shared from scouts for #Texas RB Jaydon Blue in the 40-yard dash today.

Blue shared with us on @SECNetwork that he has upcoming visits scheduled with the Texans, Broncos, Eagles and Steelers.

 

[DJackson10]

The #Eagles sent in a Proposal to align the postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome of the first possession

Lions sent in a proposal to realign playoff seeds based on regular season records not just based on winning your division.

the lions one is dumb and better not get any votes. win your damn division. if that doesnt matter anymore why even have them

NFL turns into the NBA real fast if divisions mean nothing.

The nba has bigger problems then reseeding records.

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles use top 30 visit on BC edge Donovan Ezeiruaku.

 

[DJackson10]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

 

[DJackson10]

Just because we don’t end up drafting them means we don’t get them later. All of our recent FA signings were top 30 Visits during their draft year

 

[need2know]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

 

[DJackson10]

Giants get Russ 21m is absurd and yet Schonn didn’t want to pay Barkley?

ESPN Sources: The Giants and Super Bowl-winning QB Russell Wilson reached agreement today on a one-year deal worth up to $21 million, including $10.5 million guaranteed. The 10-time Pro-Bowl selection had been in discussions with the Giants, Browns and Steelers, but is opting for New York, where Wilson won Super Bowl XLVIII in MetLife Stadium. Now, Wilson is returning there as the Giants’ projected starting QB.

 

[DJackson10]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

Lane’s replacement/mentor maybe a guy who can play G then slide to RT when Lane leaves

 

[Snotbubbles]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

 

[JetMaxx]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

Or down. The depth in this draft is at OL, DT and Edge.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

Or down. The depth in this draft is at OL, DT and Edge.

Think they have way to many picks in the next 2 drafts to trade down for more picks. Unless they trade their 2025 1st for a 2026 1st, I don't know if a trade down makes sense.

 

[unckeyherb]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

Or down. The depth in this draft is at OL, DT and Edge.

Think they have way to many picks in the next 2 drafts to trade down for more picks. Unless they trade their 2025 1st for a 2026 1st, I don't know if a trade down makes sense.

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

 

[Wooderson]

Every so often I walk by my Alexa and ask it who won the Super Bowl.

Brings a smile to my face.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

 

[renesauz]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

That's fine. I was just answering herb's question that teams get the extra year by using a 1st rounder instead of a later pick, and cited an example of a team I knew that did it.

 

[Snotbubbles]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

 

[renesauz]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

 

[Snotbubbles]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

I'm not following you. It doesn't matter when Howie signs a player, the extension doesn't kick in after the expiration of the initial contract, whenever that its (4 or 5 years).

 

[TDavi118]

Donovan macnabb puked during the super bowl.... I'm out

 

[renesauz]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

I'm not following you. It doesn't matter when Howie signs a player, the extension doesn't kick in after the expiration of the initial contract, whenever that its (4 or 5 years).

untrue, if you re-sign a player after 4 years, you don't even activate the fifth year OPTION. In return you have a happier player, and often get those 2nd 3rd 4rth years much cheaper then you would have if you'd waited until after the fifth year and then had to compete against other teams. You pay a bit more for that 5th year but you can make it up, and often more then make it up, in the other years. Howie is a genius playing chess while most play checkers

 

[The Noid]

Eagles moving on from Fly Eagles Fly pep band after 28 years.

 

[Snotbubbles]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

I'm not following you. It doesn't matter when Howie signs a player, the extension doesn't kick in after the expiration of the initial contract, whenever that its (4 or 5 years).

untrue, if you re-sign a player after 4 years, you don't even activate the fifth year OPTION. In return you have a happier player, and often get those 2nd 3rd 4rth years much cheaper then you would have if you'd waited until after the fifth year and then had to compete against other teams. You pay a bit more for that 5th year but you can make it up, and often more then make it up, in the other years. Howie is a genius playing chess while most play checkers

Not really sure you understand how the Howie and the Eagles operate. In the 14 year history of 1st round draft picks having a 5th year option. The Eagles have exercised the 5th year option and then extended their players on all but one guy, Lane Johnson. All the other players they extended, they exercised the 5th year first, DeVonta Smith, Carson Wentz, Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett, and Nelson Agholor.

 

[JAA]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

 

[JAA]

Every so often I walk by my Alexa and ask it who won the Super Bowl.

Brings a smile to my face.

Just did this. Love it

 

[JAA]

Donovan macnabb puked during the super bowl.... I'm out

 

[Terpman22]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

i see no way in hell we are trading down. We already have 20 picks over the next 2 drafts. We are already stocked up. Sure seems to me that there is a play to move up and move up very high that will be enacted. I can't see a team coming off a Super Bowl win, losing key players and not trying to get an impact player in the draft as a rookie.

Worst case scenario, say we empty our entire draft capital to trade into top 5/10 - we STILL will have all those 2026 yet to awarded comp picks.

No chance we are trading down. IMO.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

Eagles have:

2025 1st (#32)
2025 2nd (#64)
2025 3rd (#96)
2025 4th (#134)
2025 5th from HOU (#161)
2025 5th from CLE (#164)
2025 5th from WAS (#165)
2025 5th (#168)
2026 1st
2026 2nd
2026 3rd
2026 3rd Jets
2026 3rd comp pick for (Milton Williams)
2026 4th
2026 4th comp pick for (Josh Sweat)
2026 5th
2026 5th from HOU
2026 5th comp pick for (Mekhi Bechton)
2026 6th comp pick for (Isaiah Rodgers)
2026 7th

They're already stocked up. They have an extra pick this year and 5 extra picks next year.

 

[need2know]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

Eagles have:

2025 1st (#32)
2025 2nd (#64)
2025 3rd (#96)
2025 4th (#134)
2025 5th from HOU (#161)
2025 5th from CLE (#164)
2025 5th from WAS (#165)
2025 5th (#168)
2026 1st
2026 2nd
2026 3rd
2026 3rd Jets
2026 3rd comp pick for (Milton Williams)
2026 4th
2026 4th comp pick for (Josh Sweat)
2026 5th
2026 5th from HOU
2026 5th comp pick for (Mekhi Bechton)
2026 6th comp pick for (Isaiah Rodgers)
2026 7th

They're already stocked up. They have an extra pick this year and 5 extra picks next year.

that is a crapload of 5s

 

[JAA]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

i see no way in hell we are trading down. We already have 20 picks over the next 2 drafts. We are already stocked up. Sure seems to me that there is a play to move up and move up very high that will be enacted. I can't see a team coming off a Super Bowl win, losing key players and not trying to get an impact player in the draft as a rookie.

Worst case scenario, say we empty our entire draft capital to trade into top 5/10 - we STILL will have all those 2026 yet to awarded comp picks.

No chance we are trading down. IMO.

The reason to stock up in this draft is to trade up next draft.

I could easily see 1.32 for a 2026 1st and 2027 4th. Or in 2026 packaging 4th's for 3rd's, 3rds for 2s, etc, etc.

I think we all can agree this class is deep, so quantity over quality. I am going to speculate next year will not be as deep, so then quality over quantity.

 

[Terpman22]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I think trading down. Time for Howie to stockup

i see no way in hell we are trading down. We already have 20 picks over the next 2 drafts. We are already stocked up. Sure seems to me that there is a play to move up and move up very high that will be enacted. I can't see a team coming off a Super Bowl win, losing key players and not trying to get an impact player in the draft as a rookie.

Worst case scenario, say we empty our entire draft capital to trade into top 5/10 - we STILL will have all those 2026 yet to awarded comp picks.

No chance we are trading down. IMO.

The reason to stock up in this draft is to trade up next draft.

I could easily see 1.32 for a 2026 1st and 2027 4th. Or in 2026 packaging 4th's for 3rd's, 3rds for 2s, etc, etc.

I think we all can agree this class is deep, so quantity over quality. I am going to speculate next year will not be as deep, so then quality over quantity.

Yeah I guess its all a matter of perspective!

 

[JAA]

I think one thing we all can agree on

In Howie we trust

No hate, never!

 

[renesauz]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

I'm not following you. It doesn't matter when Howie signs a player, the extension doesn't kick in after the expiration of the initial contract, whenever that its (4 or 5 years).

untrue, if you re-sign a player after 4 years, you don't even activate the fifth year OPTION. In return you have a happier player, and often get those 2nd 3rd 4rth years much cheaper then you would have if you'd waited until after the fifth year and then had to compete against other teams. You pay a bit more for that 5th year but you can make it up, and often more then make it up, in the other years. Howie is a genius playing chess while most play checkers

Not really sure you understand how the Howie and the Eagles operate. In the 14 year history of 1st round draft picks having a 5th year option. The Eagles have exercised the 5th year option and then extended their players on all but one guy, Lane Johnson. All the other players they extended, they exercised the 5th year first, DeVonta Smith, Carson Wentz, Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett, and Nelson Agholor.

And in how many cases did they wait until AFTER the fifth year to do the extensions? (IE, when the player was ready to become a FA)

 

[The Noid]

Former Eagles draft pick Matt Pryor, is back with the team.

 

[Snotbubbles]

agree. Also, isn't there a fifth year option that they can exercise on first round picks that they cannot on later picks?

Yes. That's why Baltimore traded back into the first round to take Lamar Jackson at 1.32 instead of trading up for a second to get him. The 5th year option was more important than the decreased cost of trading for a second round pick.

I don't think Howie and the Eagles work this way. If a guy is worth a fifth year option, he's usually worth re-signing, and Howie tends to target and resign our players sooner then most do. It's worked out very well for the team and is a huge part of how he's successfully managed the cap and kept mostly winning teams on the field. If a guy is marginal on whether you want to resign after 3 years on the team, he probably isn't a difference maker worth stressing over anyway.

While that may be true, the 1st rounder will pay on a 5th year option at a rate lower than what he would have gotten if his 2nd contract kicked in after the 4th year. So for example Jalen Carter, without the 5th year would sign a contract for something like 4/160 from 2027-2030. But with the 5th year will get 5/185 from 2027-2031. So not only do you get an extra year, but you get that extra year at a discounted rate.

And you don't think Howie will resign him before that 5th year kicks in? Keeping and paying a guy well below his market value is, IMHO (and apparently in Howie's) a mistake in the longer term.

I'm not following you. It doesn't matter when Howie signs a player, the extension doesn't kick in after the expiration of the initial contract, whenever that its (4 or 5 years).

untrue, if you re-sign a player after 4 years, you don't even activate the fifth year OPTION. In return you have a happier player, and often get those 2nd 3rd 4rth years much cheaper then you would have if you'd waited until after the fifth year and then had to compete against other teams. You pay a bit more for that 5th year but you can make it up, and often more then make it up, in the other years. Howie is a genius playing chess while most play checkers

Not really sure you understand how the Howie and the Eagles operate. In the 14 year history of 1st round draft picks having a 5th year option. The Eagles have exercised the 5th year option and then extended their players on all but one guy, Lane Johnson. All the other players they extended, they exercised the 5th year first, DeVonta Smith, Carson Wentz, Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett, and Nelson Agholor.

And in how many cases did they wait until AFTER the fifth year to do the extensions? (IE, when the player was ready to become a FA)

Every 1st round pick, with the exception of Lane Johnson, the Eagles exercised the 5th year option and then extended the player. DeVonta Smith, Carson Wentz, Fletcher Cox, and Derek Barnett. They exercised Nelson Agholor's 5th year and then didn't extend. The other first round picks, they either declined the 5th year option (Marcus Smith, Andre Dillard) or the player was no longer on the team to exercise (Danny Watkins, Jalen Reagor).

Eagles have until May 2nd to exercise Jordan Davis's 5th year option.

Here is an interesting article which outlines my position in the snippet: https://www.nj.com/eagles/2025/03/e...first-round-pick-is-as-big-as-the-player.html

The use of the fifth-year option can still lead to a long-term extension. The Eagles did it with wide receiver DeVonta Smith, exercising his fifth-year option in March 2024 before agreeing to a three-year, $75 million contract extension. With salaries rising at the position, the move helped keep his base salary low and allowed for potential voidable years to lessen the future cap burden.

It makes sense to exercise the 5th year option and then sign players long-term, when the option year is lower than the AAV of the long-term deal. So I'd almost guarantee that Jalen Carter gets his option exercised and then gets a long-term deal. But a player like Jordan Davis is difficult to assess, because his option year will cost $12.9M but a long-term deal for Davis is probably at an AAV that would fall below that.

If you're arguing that Howie won't wait until the few months time period between when a players 5th year ends and they become a FA, well, no duh, I'm not sure any teams do that. It's more rare to not exercise the 5th year and just extend and have the contract start after the 4th.

 

[DJackson10]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I could see them trade down. They said they need to start building through the draft. I could see an approach where it’s more like this year but splash if there’s a huge necessary in one year. Having more picks also gives you flexibility in trades.

Unless there’s a guy who drops from the top 10 they love I see more of a trade back or stay Pat.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I could see them trade down. They said they need to start building through the draft. I could see an approach where it’s more like this year but splash if there’s a huge necessary in one year. Having more picks also gives you flexibility in trades.

Unless there’s a guy who drops from the top 10 they love I see more of a trade back or stay Pat.

When I do mock drafts with trades, the #32 pick always gets like 4 trades. Some are really good too, but none give back a 2026 1st.

 

[JetMaxx]

Top 30 visits so far including the last two above

North Carolina State OL Anthony Belton.
Oregon OL Josh Conerly Jr.
Purdue OL Marcus Mbow.
Iowa State OT Jalen Travis.

They looking at oline hard

I'll be very surprised if the Eagles pick at #32, I think they're trading up.

I could see them trade down. They said they need to start building through the draft. I could see an approach where it’s more like this year but splash if there’s a huge necessary in one year. Having more picks also gives you flexibility in trades.

Unless there’s a guy who drops from the top 10 they love I see more of a trade back or stay Pat.

When I do mock drafts with trades, the #32 pick always gets like 4 trades. Some are really good too, but none give back a 2026 1st.

The future first is QB availability dependent to represent value for the other team

 

[ProstheticRGK]

So, with Baun’s cap numbers being released, and being very team-friendly, I heard we have about $22-23M in cap space right now.

$8-9M to sign the rookies? Leaves $14-15M, with extensions to negotiate for Cam Jurgens and Blankenship. I don’t see any big splash FA signings. But I like the way Howie is setting things up to sign the core players, and gear up for a blockbuster deal for JC next year.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So, with Baun’s cap numbers being released, and being very team-friendly, I heard we have about $22-23M in cap space right now.

$8-9M to sign the rookies? Leaves $14-15M, with extensions to negotiate for Cam Jurgens and Blankenship. I don’t see any big splash FA signings. But I like the way Howie is setting things up to sign the core players, and gear up for a blockbuster deal for JC next year.

Are there even any free agents left who be a big splash

 

[ProstheticRGK]

So, with Baun’s cap numbers being released, and being very team-friendly, I heard we have about $22-23M in cap space right now.

$8-9M to sign the rookies? Leaves $14-15M, with extensions to negotiate for Cam Jurgens and Blankenship. I don’t see any big splash FA signings. But I like the way Howie is setting things up to sign the core players, and gear up for a blockbuster deal for JC next year.

Are there even any free agents left who be a big splash

Simmons or Blackmon at S would be a big splash, to me, at this point in FA.

Maybe Von Miller or Za’Darius Smith at EDGE- just for name recognition.

I was mostly posting how impressed I was with Howie for his management of cash and cap this offseason. Hasn’t been newsworthy, but a good, solid plan to keep things rolling with a quality roster.

 

[Ruffrodys05]

I thought Howie made a pretty good "splash" signing last year during free agency. There will be "good vibrations" reverberations still to come from that one. Most assuredly.

I don't feel the Eagles need to sign a "splash" guy every year. Besides, when Howie does make a move during free agency it seems to be the unexpected ones that are the most exciting. Splashiest.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

So this is a thing that’s happening.

Hope it’s more interesting/exciting than the game was.

Eagles News: ESPN will be releasing a documentary series on the Super Bowl LIX losing Chiefs

Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 3/29/25.

www.bleedinggreennation.com

 

[need2know]

So this is a thing that’s happening.

Hope it’s more interesting/exciting than the game was.

Eagles News: ESPN will be releasing a documentary series on the Super Bowl LIX losing Chiefs

Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 3/29/25.

www.bleedinggreennation.com

Sounds like a terrible idea

 

[jon007]

The Time vs Tom series ended in a Super Bowl loss to the Eagles as well.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So this is a thing that’s happening.

Hope it’s more interesting/exciting than the game was.

Eagles News: ESPN will be releasing a documentary series on the Super Bowl LIX losing Chiefs

Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 3/29/25.

www.bleedinggreennation.com

Sounds like a terrible idea

Spoiler alert: The Chiefs don't three peat.

 

[sm8680]

So this is a thing that’s happening.

Hope it’s more interesting/exciting than the game was.

Eagles News: ESPN will be releasing a documentary series on the Super Bowl LIX losing Chiefs

Philadelphia Eagles news and links for 3/29/25.

www.bleedinggreennation.com

Sounds like a terrible idea

Spoiler alert: The Chiefs don't three peat.

Thank God!

I’m absolutely thrilled the Eagles annihilated the Chief destroyed, decimated, and completely abused them. It’s like a divine intervention wiped out every single Chiefs commercial from my local channels. Pure bliss! I honestly couldn’t be happier.

Fly Eagles Fly! From a Steelers fan

 

[DJackson10]

Best interviewer (Kay Adams) with Footballs top GM and mob boss Howie Roseman on up and Adams at the owners meetings