*** 2025 Pittsburgh Steelers: Starting QB? TBD later (2 Viewers)

[crushedspirit]

Dart has many questions to answer, and it starts with if he can run a traditional or even modern day drop back NFL offense. We all know Kiffin runs his own unique style at Ole Miss, but does it translate to the NFL game? I don't see it, and his track record with guys like Crompton, Barkley, Coral shows that he's never produced an NFL calibre QB yet. This is a very schemed up RPO/deep shot type offense that doesn't require much beyond the first read that Dart is coming from, so who knows what we'll see in the NFL.

The positives are that he is pretty athletic and it appears he'll sit a year to learn from the sideline.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

None of these qbs are going to be that great. Glad they withstood the urge.

Oh good. We found the one guy on the planet that can predict QB success in the NFL.

Lulz. The whole league just passed on Sanders at least once. Giants did it twice. A pile of scouts graded out Ward as the 4th or 5th best QB in either the '24 or '26 classes. End of season, Dart was a projected late 3rd rounder. "One guy", indeed.

Seems like you're projecting. I don't "know" they'll fail anymore than you "know" that they'll succeed. But youre more than welcome to take a victory lap when Jaxson Dart wins his first playoff game, I guess?

Imma keep feeling like selecting most any of this crop of QBs with a first rounder was basically like setting the pick on fire. Hopefully, that's okay with internet randos.

YIC,

5-

It doesn't mean any of them won't be successful. At best you are predicting the chances of success are lower.

Correct. I didn't think I need to classify it with "IMO" since, y'know...it's a forum where we post opinions. I guess I was wrong. Mea culpa.

With this crop, I'm much more comfortable seeing them wait and go shooting at ceiling on the " non-first round" QBs (which also isn't very likely to work) and just gear up for addressing the position in earnest come 2026. Be that in the draft, trade, FA or all of the above.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Dart has many questions to answer, and it starts with if he can run a traditional or even modern day drop back NFL offense. We all know Kiffin runs his own unique style at Ole Miss, but does it translate to the NFL game? I don't see it, and his track record with guys like Crompton, Barkley, Coral shows that he's never produced an NFL calibre QB yet. This is a very schemed up RPO/deep shot type offense that doesn't require much beyond the first read that Dart is coming from, so who knows what we'll see in the NFL.

The positives are that he is pretty athletic and it appears he'll sit a year to learn from the sideline.

This is basically where I'm living with Dart. He isn't talentless or not worth a shot totally. I just don't see him being a guy who you burn first round capital (plus whatever else the Giants moved) on. I get they prolly felt they had to get back in front of teams they think may be drawing a bead on "their guy" though, so I can understand them trying what they did if they love a guy.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

Dart has many questions to answer, and it starts with if he can run a traditional or even modern day drop back NFL offense. We all know Kiffin runs his own unique style at Ole Miss, but does it translate to the NFL game? I don't see it, and his track record with guys like Crompton, Barkley, Coral shows that he's never produced an NFL calibre QB yet. This is a very schemed up RPO/deep shot type offense that doesn't require much beyond the first read that Dart is coming from, so who knows what we'll see in the NFL.

The positives are that he is pretty athletic and it appears he'll sit a year to learn from the sideline.

This is basically where I'm living with Dart. He isn't talentless or not worth a shot totally. I just don't see him being a guy who you burn first round capital (plus whatever else the Giants moved) on. I get they prolly felt they had to get back in front of teams they thing may be drawing a bead on "their guy" though, so I can understand them trying what they did if they love a guy.

If you hit on a QB you change your franchise. Even if Harmon turns out to be the next Cam, you don't get much surplus value from the pick. I like him a lot, but he is likely an overpaid rotational player for 2 years and if he does hit it will be time to extend him by the time he outplays the value of his contract.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Dart has many questions to answer, and it starts with if he can run a traditional or even modern day drop back NFL offense. We all know Kiffin runs his own unique style at Ole Miss, but does it translate to the NFL game? I don't see it, and his track record with guys like Crompton, Barkley, Coral shows that he's never produced an NFL calibre QB yet. This is a very schemed up RPO/deep shot type offense that doesn't require much beyond the first read that Dart is coming from, so who knows what we'll see in the NFL.

The positives are that he is pretty athletic and it appears he'll sit a year to learn from the sideline.

This is basically where I'm living with Dart. He isn't talentless or not worth a shot totally. I just don't see him being a guy who you burn first round capital (plus whatever else the Giants moved) on. I get they prolly felt they had to get back in front of teams they thing may be drawing a bead on "their guy" though, so I can understand them trying what they did if they love a guy.

If you hit on a QB you change your franchise. Even if Harmon turns out to be the next Cam, you don't get much surplus value from the pick. I like him a lot, but he is likely an overpaid rotational player for 2 years and if he does hit it will be time to extend him by the time he outplays the value of his contract.

Certainly possible.

Mikey T and the team are clearly playing for "now" though. This whole Russ/Rodgers/etc. saga the past couple years shows that pretty clearly, to me anyway. I also think the signals are all still pretty strong that, the team thinks at least, they'll be employing Rodgers in 2025. If that happens, any QB they would have taken in round 1 (or may take in any other round this year) would almost have zero shot to start many games either. So we wouldn't know if they'd be a "hit" for a year or two anyway. Certainly not in time to decide NOT to look for one in '26.

The thing is...they can still take shots at a QB. More than a couple of prospect analysts who talk to scouts (rather than just agents) have been reporting the Steelers are super horny to trade back into the second today. If true, I have to imagine it's for the runners (apparently Henderson is on their "pants feelings" list, and I cant imagine he'd last til their third) or the QBs.

Let's say they pull that off and get a mid-second rounder somehow. How large of a difference is there really between a Dart/Sanders and, like, a Milroe? I'm not seeing a vast gulf between the top 3 QBs and the next 4-5. There's a gap...but it's not that broad. None of this group is perfect, and very few have any truly "elite" traits.

Regardless, I'm still in the camp of "don't really care if they take a QB at all." This year, I'd rather they follow their scouts internal grades and take a stab at on a QB later if they have to, otherwise fire all the scouts and start over.

 

[crushedspirit]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

 

[Grid71]

None of these qbs are going to be that great. Glad they withstood the urge.

Oh good. We found the one guy on the planet that can predict QB success in the NFL.

Already shaking my head when the annual Shark Pool "fire Mike Tomlin" thread is blowing up because ESPN is praising him for finishing 9-8 with Mason Rudolph at QB.

thank you for contributing to the board mr. helper no reason for you to personally attack 5-ish other than to be petty and small. please redact the comment as it doesn't belong here.

like many of us, he's relieved the steelers didn't set the team back for years wasting their pick on a long shot over filling a major need at another position. kenny pickett a few years back is a perfect example. he was an older 3rdish round talent taken in the first out of desperation. it's a relief the steelers didn't make a similar mistake yesterday.

for the "none of these qbs are going to be that great" comment. that reflects what we've heard about the Steelers evaluation of the 2025 QB class. only had Ward listed as a first round talent. none of the other QB are that great for the team this season compared to getting someone else who is worthy of a first round selection at another position. is it possible the steelers were wrong? sure. we are all wrong time to time, but if there was a wager to place, i'd put money on 5-ish and the steelers' front office being right over your take 100%.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

 

[pecorino]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

I like Milroe in the 3rd if he is there.

 

[pecorino]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

Even with Cam Ward, and I like him a lot, I was surprised to learn that some team (I forget which) offered a boatload to move up to grab him but the Titans held firm. That's a deal I would have done in a heartbeat if it nets multiple 1st round picks including an extra in 2026. Just as Cam can determine the fate of a franchise. so could multiple high picks over two or three years. And there is much more variance in putting all ones' eggs in the QB basket.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Please dial back the tone.

We're all just trying our best to guess where players will go. Anyone who thinks they know definitively how these players will turn out is likely kidding themselves.

And yes, the "IMO" goes a long ways toward encouraging discussion.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For Pittsburgh in particular, I think the recent experience with drafting PIckett in the first maybe had an influence on this decision if they felt they would be reaching for a QB Thursday.

I can see that. It's hard for me to get too excited about any of these QBs in the first. But on the other hand, it's a position so crucial to success I can see why teams do what they do.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm told the #Steelers communicated with Aaron Rodgers at the beginning of the week that they would like to receive an answer from him before the Draft (at least 48 hours), per league source. Steelers know the outcome of that conversation...

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1915618910709129286

Thanks. I had missed this.

 

[3C's]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

I like Milroe in the 3rd if he is there.

If he's there at 83 I would take all of 30 seconds maybe to turn the card in. Low floor but really high ceiling.

 

[3C's]

I'm told the #Steelers communicated with Aaron Rodgers at the beginning of the week that they would like to receive an answer from him before the Draft (at least 48 hours), per league source. Steelers know the outcome of that conversation...

https://x.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1915618910709129286

Just a guess, but I bet they know the answer and drafted accordingly.

FTR, I am NOT Mike Florio.

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[3C's]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

I like Milroe in the 3rd if he is there.

If he's there at 83 I would take all of 30 seconds maybe to turn the card in. Low floor but really high ceiling.

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[5-ish Finkle]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

I like Milroe in the 3rd if he is there.

If he's there at 83 I would take all of 30 seconds maybe to turn the card in. Low floor but really high ceiling.

If they're going to chase ceiling on a guy in this group, he is probably that guy.

I wouldn't do it, but I could see teams doing it. And I think one will in the second round, most likely

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

They are trying to get into the 2nd round . . . .

Sounds like if they don't, they are targeting RB or Shough in the 3rd.

They like Henderson (won't be there in the third) and Kaleb Johnson best at RB.

 

[crushedspirit]

After Cam, none of these QBs warrant a first round price. Sanders and Dart come from gimmicky offenses, and Milroe is coming from an offense that didn't ask much of him maybe due to his limitations as a passer. The biggest wildcard for me is Ewers, but nobody knows how much his injuries played a role. I saw both sides from him, one being a guy you look at and say "yes that's an NFL starting QB", followed by "what was that throw"

I would take a stab at Ewers Rd 3 or later.

I mean, at least Milroe has one "elite" trait...it's just unfortunate that it isn't related to throwing the football.

I like Milroe in the 3rd if he is there.

If he's there at 83 I would take all of 30 seconds maybe to turn the card in. Low floor but really high ceiling.

If they're going to chase ceiling on a guy in this group, he is probably that guy.

I wouldn't do it, but I could see teams doing it. And I think one will in the second round, most likely

Yup, I would agree since someone won't be able to pass on his athleticism.

I still contend that he will be a major flop if he lands on a team without patience, and more importantly, without the proper offensive minded coaching required to develop him and to build an offense around his skillset. To me he's simply not a natural at the position, so he will need way more stars to align in his favor.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

and more importantly, without the proper offensive minded coaching required to develop him

This will be what kills/saves him. Coming to Pittsburgh is probably a death knell.

Going to, say, Baltimore? Or, like, with a guy like Daboll (not that the Giants would take him, but Daboll had a massive hand in cleaning up Josh Allen's accuracy issues)? Much better chance he'd figure it out with those coaches/offensive philosophies.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

They are trying to get into the 2nd round . . . .

Sounds like if they don't, they are targeting RB or Shough in the 3rd.

They like Henderson (won't be there in the third) and Kaleb Johnson best at RB.

I've been assuming RB in the third for a while now. Would really prefer that they'd go after one of the speed guys. Tuten's my boy, but I know his fumble issues probably have him pretty far down their list. Giddens? Sampson? Suppose I wouldn't mind either.

Johnson's a pretty good player though, and certainly more of a "Tomlin" sorta guy.

I guess they could view the smaller dudes as too close to Warren/Gainwell, and want the bigger "short yardage" types maybe(although, Henderson certainly aint that guy)? Go after the Johnson/Gordon types later? Or even the Phil Mafah's even later?

 

[3C's]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

 

[3C's]

They are trying to get into the 2nd round . . . .

Sounds like if they don't, they are targeting RB or Shough in the 3rd.

They like Henderson (won't be there in the third) and Kaleb Johnson best at RB.

Wonder what the target would be in R2?

 

[timschochet]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

I just read they really like McCord. But if that’s the case they can wait until tomorrow to grab him right?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

I just read they really like McCord. But if that’s the case they can wait until tomorrow to grab him right?

Most likely, yeah. At least that's the general consensus

 

[3C's]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

I just read they really like McCord. But if that’s the case they can wait until tomorrow to grab him right?

Yeah, not a day 2 guy.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

They are trying to get into the 2nd round . . . .

Sounds like if they don't, they are targeting RB or Shough in the 3rd.

They like Henderson (won't be there in the third) and Kaleb Johnson best at RB.

Wonder what the target would be in R2?

Henderson, but that would probably take a pretty high pick. Not sure they can get there without doing something "non-logical."

 

[menobrown]

They are trying to get into the 2nd round . . . .

Sounds like if they don't, they are targeting RB or Shough in the 3rd.

They like Henderson (won't be there in the third) and Kaleb Johnson best at RB.

I don’t think any of those players will be left when our third round pick is up.

 

[menobrown]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

I just read they really like McCord. But if that’s the case they can wait until tomorrow to grab him right?

Maybe, heard the Browns like McCord a lot

 

[irish eyes]

If we go by visits, we'd have to assume they're not going QB in the 3rd, assuming Sanders and Shough are already gone.

Shedeur Sanders
Tyler Shough
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord

I just read they really like McCord. But if that’s the case they can wait until tomorrow to grab him right?

Maybe, heard the Browns like McCord a lot

I'll be sick if they draft McCord. I've seen enough to know he is awful.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Just saw re-tweeted: "Wait, so the Browns traded Travis Hunter for Charles Braunschweiger?" - Mark Kaboly


Can't stand the guy, but

 

[belljr]

Just read about Harmon mom, that's tough

 

[timschochet]

The Steelers could still have their choice of Sanders or Milroe- still unlikely but how crazy would that be?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Team Prime gotta be seeeeething.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Just read about Harmon mom, that's tough

Yeah, super, super rough.

 

[crushedspirit]

Ravens killing another draft, not cool.

 

[pecorino]

The Steelers could still have their choice of Sanders or Milroe- still unlikely but how crazy would that be?

Very unlikely but would be crazy. So long as they're both available, though, means that maybe one will be there in the 3rd.

 

[tbsteel]

Ravens killing another draft, not cool.

2 SA's at Virginia and 1 as a juvenile. Hard pass.

 

[C & C]

Ravens killing another draft, not cool.

2 SA's at Virginia and 1 as a juvenile. Hard pass.

Late 2nd seems a bit early considering

 

[JoeSteeler]

15 picks to go

 

[belljr]

Please noooii

 

[Blick]

Please noooii

It’s ok now. Hopefully it’s a Kaleb though.

 

[C & C]

A trade could happen, but none of these teams from Denver on should take a QB. Do the Steelers take Sanders or Milroe?

 

[McBokonon]

I have this impending sense of dread

It’s back.

 

[Blick]

I have this impending sense of dread

It’s back.

Doesn’t feel so bad now.

 

[Godsbrother]

A trade could happen, but none of these teams from Denver on should take a QB. Do the Steelers take Sanders or Milroe?

Neither.

 

[pecorino]

I would absolutely take Sanders or Milroe at 83. You've got a chance for a promising QB late in the 3rd? Take the shot. If he doesn't pan out, you haven't burned a one.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Gonna be a RB prolly

 

[HellToupee]

We going to take Ewers in the 5th

 

[HellToupee]

Gonna be a RB prolly

Sampson or Johnson?