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3 Killed in Shooting in CO Springs (1 Viewer)

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Seeing it on CNN; multiple cops shot? Hope these are wrong reports.

 
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The gunman has barricaded himself inside of the Planned Parenthood building. Three cops are injured; no word on how many other people. No word if PP is the target.

 
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Shooter barricaded inside Planned Parenthood per CNN. Civilians and police hurt. Latest says recent gunfire was exchaned.

 
Oh look, another right wing extremist committing an act of domestic terrorism. Don't get me wrong, radical Islam is still very much the more pressing global threat but it's most definitely not the the most pressing domestic threat.

It's a numbers game. There are only ~7 million American Muslims compared to ~ 120 million republicans.

 
Looking forward to trump firing up the Christian database.

 
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So shoot a bunch of people in a stand off, then walk out with your hands up? They should have just ended him right there.

 
wormburner said:
timschochet said:
Maybe we shouldn't allow people from Colorado to move to other states. Why take a chance?
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lol! My theory is that many Californians migrated to Colorado out of boredom after they f'ed up their own state.Oregon doesn't want any more Californians.
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CA is far from "####ed up". Still by far the greatest state in the world.

Lots of folks head to Oregon and AZ and CO when they can't handle CA. No loss, they weren't CA material anyway.

 
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?

 
tommyGunZ said:
wormburner said:
timschochet said:
Maybe we shouldn't allow people from Colorado to move to other states. Why take a chance?
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lol! My theory is that many Californians migrated to Colorado out of boredom after they f'ed up their own state.Oregon doesn't want any more Californians.
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CA is far from "####ed up". Still by far the greatest state in the world. Lots of folks head to Oregon and AZ and CO when they can't handle CA. No loss, they weren't CA material anyway.
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Uh no
 
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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That's what i've been saying. You cannot demonize something (left or right) and then be surprised when someone takes your political vitriol and turns it into action. many people out there dont understand american politics is just the WWF. There are no heroes and there are no heels.

 
tommyGunZ said:
wormburner said:
timschochet said:
Maybe we shouldn't allow people from Colorado to move to other states. Why take a chance?
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lol! My theory is that many Californians migrated to Colorado out of boredom after they f'ed up their own state.Oregon doesn't want any more Californians.
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CA is far from "####ed up". Still by far the greatest state in the world.

Lots of folks head to Oregon and AZ and CO when they can't handle CA. No loss, they weren't CA material anyway.
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Lol...by far huh

 
Local news is reporting 11 injured possibly one dead (unconfirmed) but five officers wounded.

Edit: and before we know what this is all about, can we stop trying to politicize this. I would guess it is a crazy antiabortion person, but it also could be a domestic dispute gone bad as well. Let's just see how it plays out before jumping to conclusions

 
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tuffnutt said:
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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That's what i've been saying. You cannot demonize something (left or right) and then be surprised when someone takes your political vitriol and turns it into action. many people out there dont understand american politics is just the WWF. There are no heroes and there are no heels.
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Well I am glad we can all finally agree that Onama bares all responsibility for the race riots.

 
jon_mx said:
tuffnutt said:
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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That's what i've been saying. You cannot demonize something (left or right) and then be surprised when someone takes your political vitriol and turns it into action. many people out there dont understand american politics is just the WWF. There are no heroes and there are no heels.
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Well I am glad we can all finally agree that Onama bares all responsibility for the race riots.
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I agree he, and his ilk do share some responsibility. Just as Ted Cruz and the rest calling for defunding of PP share it on the right

 
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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No.

 
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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You sorta answer your own question don't you?

 
bigbottom said:
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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No.
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:goodposting: Why do we go looking beyond the individual to assign blame? If you take our politicians seriously, that's on you. If you use them as an excuse, that's on you too. Not really all that complicated.

 
timschochet said:
Assuming that it was an attack against Planned Parenthood (and we don't know that yet for sure:)

We have had members of Congress and other public officials in positions of responsibility go on the news and very loudly call Planned Parenthood "baby murderers", compare them to Nazis and what they do to the Holocaust. Do these people bear any moral responsibility for this sort of end result, which was entirely predictable?
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Couldn't even make it one page.

 
Courtjester said:
Local news is reporting 11 injured possibly one dead (unconfirmed) but five officers wounded.

Edit: and before we know what this is all about, can we stop trying to politicize this. I would guess it is a crazy antiabortion person, but it also could be a domestic dispute gone bad as well. Let's just see how it plays out before jumping to conclusions
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In a vacuum I might agree with this sentiment. But whenever there is an act that appears to be radical Islamic terrorism, it is immediately politicized: there is no pause whatsoever. And much of the rhetoric is very ugly. Yet whenever there is a mass shooting or something like this we are told that it is too premature to discuss politics or guns, that now is not the right time and we should wait.

 
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