You originally said you just didn't see a path to upside. I was showing the path where he has upside. Whether you think that can happen or not is up to the individual doing the evaluating and you obviously think he isn't capable of going down that path.Bad Oline, Bad Offense, Likely in low scoring games, eventually might be/should be taken over by Pickett, etc. I see his absolute ceiling as QB15 and very low floor which makes him undraftable in standard 18 and under man leagues. Obviously superflex leagues changes things.