What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

380 draft prospects rated! (1 Viewer)

Warpig

Footballguy
This might need to be pinned.

Anyway, I work with a guy who considers himself a "draftnik". He gets every draft publication worth the paper it's written on and runs everything through an application he has that compiles all the scores and comes up with an overall average. He adds a few categories of his own that he thinks might be valid (SSR=size/speed ratio). He sends this list to local sports talk radio stations as well as the news networks, newpapers, and some message boards he's affiliated with. He spends hundreds of dollars and probably as many hours researching and crunching numbers for this list. So if anyone knows how I can get it to paste in here let me know. The problem is when I try to paste it it wraps back around so the columns don't stay aligned. How can I post it without it getting wrapped and throwing everything out of whack?

 
Save the file as a .prn file from Excel. This creates a text file with fixed width columns. Cut and paste from this file and wrap in code tags. Should do the trick.

 
Nice

:thumbup:

I will say it looks much better in Excel though...
The columns still aren't aligned right though. There should be nothing underneath the names except for the name of the next ranked player. Oh well...better than nothing I guess. I wonder if Memphis Foundry is having any better luck.
 
Nice

:thumbup:

I will say it looks much better in Excel though...
Left align all the columns. Make them a little wider than the data. Save as PRN. Close Excel. Open the PRN file in notepad. Copy and paste into Code tags and it might look better.Edit: i see what you mean by the wrapping. This won't fly on the board though since there are pay rankings listed. Maybe if only the Average and Difference columns were posted.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
It looks like a Kiper draft to me..... to heavilly weighted on his rankings. This is obviously a concensus type of ranking.... but if you exclude the pundits who have Cutler as the #1 QB, he falls to nine. Mayock, Jaworski, Draft Daddy, and a bunch of others have Cutler ranked higher....

I see a real consistancy in these "concensus" type rankings, and that includes guys like Kiper. The pundits who study films have very different looking draft boards. I'm sure he put in a ton of time here, but being honest, I don't think this is a real good draft board.

 
Nice

:thumbup:

I will say it looks much better in Excel though...
Left align all the columns. Make them a little wider than the data. Save as PRN. Close Excel. Open the PRN file in notepad. Copy and paste into Code tags and it might look better.Edit: i see what you mean by the wrapping. This won't fly on the board though since there are pay rankings listed. Maybe if only the Average and Difference columns were posted.
Yeah, the fact that many of these are pay rankings means that I can't post this outright but I will remove the pay stuff and post just the difference and average columns along with the player info.
 
It looks like a Kiper draft to me..... to heavilly weighted on his rankings. This is obviously a concensus type of ranking.... but if you exclude the pundits who have Cutler as the #1 QB, he falls to nine. Mayock, Jaworski, Draft Daddy, and a bunch of others have Cutler ranked higher....

I see a real consistancy in these "concensus" type rankings, and that includes guys like Kiper. The pundits who study films have very different looking draft boards. I'm sure he put in a ton of time here, but being honest, I don't think this is a real good draft board.
He didn't rank any of the players. He just averaged their rankings using all the publications to come up with one all inclusive average. Basically coming up with one master ranking sheet. The only thing he added was the SSR (size/speed ratio) which even further breaks down a players athleticism compared to his position. Say Mario Williams has a 7.66 SSR rating, then the next highest rated DE has a SSR rating of 7.47...that's almost 2/10 of a point in difference. Some may think that is substantial and others may not. But where it may come into better use is when you compare his SSR to say Reggie Bush whom has a 6.74. Which basically says, for his size, Mario Williams is a bad mofo! And Reggie Bush being the super stud he is, is not as much of an athlete as Mario is for his size. Like I said, this kind of a list is for those people that like to break things down to the most minute fraction. It just kinda makes my head hurt. :confused: :D
 
Code:
Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff       1  Reggie Bush            USC                    RB   5117 201 4.42 6.74     9.59       2  Mario Williams         NC State               DE   6060 289 4.93 7.66     9.40 0.19       3  D'Brickashaw Ferguson  Virginia               OT   6060 312 5.26 7.70     9.30 0.10       4  Matt Leinart           USC                    QB   6041 224  4.9 6.76     9.28 0.02       5  A J Hawk               Ohio State             OLB  6010 243 4.51 7.34     9.22 0.06       6  Vince Young            Texas                  QB   6050 230 4.48 7.17     9.22 0.00       7  Vernon Davis           Maryland               TE   6030 252 4.58 7.42     9.10 0.11       8  Haloti Ngata           Oregon                 DT   6040 336 5.02 8.18     9.07 0.03       9  Jay Cutler             Vanderbilt             QB   6027 226 4.77 6.88     9.05 0.02      10  Michael Huff           Texas                  S    6010 198 4.53 6.61     9.05 0.00      11  Jimmy Williams         Virgina Tech           CB   6020 216 4.42 6.99     8.89 0.16      12  Chad Greenway          Iowa                   OLB  6030 242 4.55 7.29     8.88 0.01      13  Brodrick Bunkley       Florida State          DT   6020 293 5.05 7.62     8.87 0.00      14  LenDale White          USC                    RB   6017 238 4.49 7.28     8.87 0.01      15  Santonio Holmes        Ohio State             WR   5110 188 4.45 6.50     8.87 0.00      16  Tye Hill               Clemson                CB   5090 182 4.33 6.48     8.85 0.01      17  DeAngelo Williams      Memphis                RB   5085 214 4.49 6.90     8.81 0.04      18  Chad Jackson           Florida                WR   6010 213 4.34 7.01     8.80 0.02      19  Winston Justice        USC                    OT   6060 319 5.16 7.86     8.78 0.02      20  Laurence Maroney       Minnesota              RB   6000 217  4.5 6.94     8.73 0.05      21  Ernie Sims             Florida State          OLB  6000 228 4.49 7.13     8.68 0.05      22  DeMeco Ryans           Alabama                OLB  6010 235 4.63 7.12     8.64 0.05      23  Tamba Hali             Penn State             DE   6020 265 4.75 7.47     8.62 0.02      24  Mathias Kiwanuka       Boston College         DE   6060 260 4.69 7.45     8.62 0.00      25  Antonio Cromartie      Florida State          CB   6030 208 4.49 6.81     8.60 0.02      26  Ashton Youboty         Ohio State             CB   6010 188 4.39 6.54     8.57 0.04      27  Nick Mangold           Ohio State             C    6040 300 4.96 7.78     8.55 0.02      28  Jonathan Joseph        South Carolina         CB   5110 187 4.32 6.58     8.54 0.01      29  Marcus McNeill         Auburn                 OT   6080 335 5.05 8.14     8.54 0.01      30  Kamerion Wimbley       Florida State          DE   6040 242  4.7 7.18     8.51 0.02      31  Bobby Carpenter        Ohio State             OLB  6030 245  4.6 7.30     8.50 0.02      32  Sinorice Moss          Miami                  WR   5080 185 4.39 6.49     8.48 0.02Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff      33  D'Qwell Jackson        Maryland               ILB  6010 226 4.68 6.95     8.47 0.01      34  Gabe Watson            Michigan               DT   6040 330  5.1 8.04     8.47 0.00      35  Donte Whitner          Ohio State             S    5110 205 4.44 6.79     8.46 0.00      36  Max Jean-Gilles        Georgia                OG   6040 340 5.42 7.92     8.44 0.03      37  Ko Simpson             South Carolina         FS   6010 200  4.5 6.67     8.44 0.00      38  Leonard Pope           Georgia                TE   6070 250 4.75 7.25     8.44 0.00      39  Eric Winston           Miami                  OT   6060 310 5.05 7.83     8.42 0.01      40  Manny Lawson           NC State               DE   6040 232 4.58 7.12     8.41 0.01      41  Marcedes Lewis         UCLA                   TE   6060 256 4.78 7.32     8.40 0.01      42  Jason Allen            Tennessee              FS   6020 200 4.55 6.63     8.39 0.00      43  Darnell Bing           USC                    S    6020 220 4.52 6.98     8.36 0.03      44  Kelly Jennings         Miami                  CB   5110 181 4.41 6.41     8.34 0.02      45  Joseph Addai           LSU                    RB   5110 214  4.4 6.97     8.32 0.02      46  Thomas Howard          Texas-El Paso          OLB  6030 230 4.44 7.20     8.30 0.02      47  Davin Joseph           Oklahoma               OG   6030 315 5.12 7.84     8.29 0.01      48  Abdul Hodge            Iowa                   ILB  6010 235 4.67 7.09     8.29 0.00      49  Richard Marshall       Fresno St              CB   5110 190  4.4 6.57     8.26 0.03      50  Roger McIntosh         Miami                  OLB  6020 237 4.64 7.15     8.22 0.04      51  Claude Wroten          LSU                    DT   6020 303 5.08 7.72     8.22 0.00      52  Anthony Fasano         Notre Dame             TE   6050 255 4.76 7.32     8.13 0.09      53  Orien Harris           Miami                  DT   6030 302 5.12 7.68     8.11 0.02      54  Daniel Bullocks        Nebraska               S    6000 208  4.5 6.80     8.10 0.01      55  Darryl Tapp            Virginia Tech          DE   6010 265 4.76 7.46     8.05 0.05      56  Alan Zemaitis          Penn State             CB   6020 205 4.51 6.74     8.02 0.03      57  Rodrique Wright        Texas                  DT   6050 308 5.02 7.83     8.00 0.02      58  Cedric Griffin         Texas                  CB   6010 190 4.54 6.47     7.99 0.01      59  Derek Hagan            Arizona State          WR   6020 198  4.5 6.63     7.98 0.01      60  Joe Klopfenstein       Colorado               TE   6050 247 4.72 7.23     7.95 0.03      61  Andrew Whitworth       LSU                    OT   6070 326 5.29 7.85     7.94 0.01      62  Jonathan Lewis         Virginia Tech          DT   6010 308 5.02 7.83     7.94 0.00      63  Dominque Byrd          USC                    TE   6030 258 4.82 7.32     7.93 0.01      64  Jonathan Scott         Texas                  OT   6060 315 5.35 7.67     7.91 0.02Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff      65  Dee Webb               Florida                CB   5110 190 4.46 6.53     7.90 0.01      66  Ryan O'Callaghan       California             OT   6070 344 5.39 7.99     7.90 0.00      67  Charles Spencer        Pittsburgh             OG   6050 330 5.15 8.00     7.89 0.02      68  Daryn Colledge         Boise State            OG   6040 302 5.05 7.73     7.88 0.00      69  Pat Watkins            Florida State          FS   6040 202  4.5 6.70     7.87 0.02      70  Taitusi Lutui          USC                    OG   6050 370 5.48 8.22     7.86 0.01      71  Demetrius Williams     Oregon                 WR   6020 197 4.52 6.60     7.84 0.01      72  Demario Minter         Georgia                CB   5110 198 4.43 6.69     7.82 0.02      73  Maurice Stovall        Notre Dame             WR   6050 217 4.58 6.88     7.81 0.01      74  Maurice Drew           UCLA                   RB   5070 207 4.39 6.87     7.80 0.01      75  Brodie Croyle          Alabama                QB   6025 205 4.87 6.49     7.79 0.01      76  Jeremy Trueblood       Boston College         OT   6080 316 5.32 7.71     7.79 0.00      77  Brian Calhoun          Wisconsin              RB   5095 201  4.6 6.61     7.75 0.04      78  Mark Anderson          Alabama                DE   6040 255 4.78 7.30     7.74 0.01      79  Devin Hester           Miami                  WR   5110 186 4.35 6.54     7.74 0.00      80  Greg Eslinger          Minnesota              C    6030 292 5.13 7.54     7.70 0.04      81  Jon Alston             Stanford               OLB  6010 218 4.65 6.85     7.69 0.01      82  Travis Wilson          Oklahoma               WR   6020 215  4.5 6.91     7.67 0.01      83  Babatunde Oshinowo     Stanford               DT   6020 320 5.32 7.76     7.66 0.01      84  Gerris Wilkinson       Georgia Tech           ILB  6030 235 4.69 7.08     7.65 0.01      85  Ray Edwards            Purdue                 DE   6060 270  4.8 7.50     7.62 0.02      86  Bernard Pollard        Purdue                 S    6020 226  4.5 7.09     7.62 0.01      87  Omar Jacobs            Bowling Green          QB   6040 232 4.88 6.89     7.58 0.03      88  Leon Washington        Florida State          RB   5071 201 4.54 6.65     7.58 0.01      89  Charlie Whitehurst     Clemson                QB   6050 223 4.83 6.79     7.57 0.01      90  Anwar Phillips         Penn State             CB   6000 190 4.46 6.53     7.57 0.00      91  Elvis Dumervil         Louisville             DE   6000 256 4.69 7.39     7.55 0.02      92  Stanley McClover       Auburn                 DE   6030 258 4.56 7.52     7.55 0.00      93  Jason Avant            Michigan               WR   6010 210 4.52 6.82     7.54 0.00      94  Jerome Harrison        Washington State       RB   5090 200 4.47 6.69     7.54 0.00      95  Jerious Norwood        Mississippi St         RB   5110 210 4.44 6.88     7.49 0.05      96  Greg Jennings          Western Michigan       WR   5110 195 4.51 6.58     7.48 0.01Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff      97  Tim Jennings           Georgia                CB   5080 182 4.35 6.47     7.48 0.00      98  John McCargo           NC State               DT   6020 295 5.05 7.64     7.45 0.03      99  Dusty Dvoracek         Oklahoma               DT   6030 298 4.92 7.78     7.45 0.00     100  Kai Parham             Virginia               ILB  6030 248 4.55 7.38     7.45 0.00     101  Roman Harper           Alabama                FS   6000 200 4.58 6.61     7.44 0.00     102  Victor Adeyanju        Indiana                DE   6050 265  4.6 7.59     7.43 0.01     103  Greg Blue              Georgia                FS   6020 215 4.45 6.95     7.42 0.01     104  Jesse Mahelona         Tennessee              DT   6020 303 5.03 7.76     7.39 0.03     105  Rob Sims               Ohio State             OG   6030 318 5.25 7.78     7.39 0.00     106  Danieal Manning        Abilene Christian      CB   6000 210 4.48 6.85     7.37 0.02     107  Tim Day                Oregon                 TE   6030 265 4.87 7.38     7.36 0.01     108  James Anderson         Virginia Tech          OLB  6030 222 4.48 7.04     7.32 0.04     109  Andre Hall             South Florida          RB   5080 208 4.42 6.86     7.30 0.02     110  Todd Watkins           BYU                    WR   6020 185 4.42 6.47     7.29 0.01     111  Anthony Smith          Syracuse               FS   6000 195 4.51 6.58     7.27 0.02     112  Derrick Martin         Wyoming                CB   5100 189 4.42 6.54     7.26 0.01     113  Julian Jenkins         Stanford               DE   6040 270  4.9 7.42     7.25 0.01     114  A.J. Nicholson         Florida State          OLB  6000 232 4.67 7.05     7.24 0.01     115  Ryan Cook              New Mexico             C    6070 328 5.29 7.87     7.24 0.00     116  Hank Baskett           New Mexico             WR   6040 228 4.54 7.09     7.24 0.00     117  Eric Henderson         Georgia Tech           DE   6020 265 4.75 7.47     7.24 0.00     118  Reggie McNeal          Texas A&M              QB   6020 198 4.44 6.68     7.22 0.01     119  Kevin Boothe           Cornell                OT   6050 315 5.39 7.64     7.22 0.00     120  Mike Hass              Oregon State           WR   6010 205 4.45 6.79     7.21 0.01     121  David Thomas           Texas                  TE   6030 247 4.59 7.34     7.20 0.01     122  Parys Haralson         Tennessee              DE   6020 252 4.73 7.30     7.19 0.01     123  Kyle Williams          LSU                    DT   6010 298 5.22 7.56     7.18 0.00     124  Martin Nance           Miami (OHIO)           WR   6010 208 4.58 6.74     7.15 0.03     125  Zack Strief            NorthWestern           OT   6070 345  5.4 7.99     7.14 0.01     126  Barry Cofield          Northwestern           DT   6030 305 4.93 7.87     7.13 0.01     127  Greg Lee               Pittsburgh             WR   6020 200 4.68 6.54     7.13 0.00     128  Spencer Havner         UCLA                   ILB  6040 235 4.67 7.09     7.11 0.02Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     129  Charles Gordon         Kansas                 CB   5110 170 4.45 6.18     7.08 0.02     130  Will Blackmon          Boston College         CB   6000 193 4.54 6.52     7.07 0.01     131  Calvin Lowery          Penn State             S    6000 205 4.55 6.71     7.07 0.01     132  Brandon Williams       Wisconsin              WR   5100 175 4.49 6.24     7.06 0.01     133  Jason Spitz            Louisville             OG   6040 308 5.18 7.71     7.06 0.01     134  Michael Robinson       Penn State             WR   6010 226 4.56 7.04     7.01 0.04     135  Garrett Mills          Tulsa                  FB   6010 241 4.66 7.19     7.00 0.01     136  Jeff Webb              San Diego State        WR   6020 200  4.6 6.59     6.99 0.01     137  P.J. Daniels           Georgia Tech           RB   5100 210 4.55 6.79     6.99 0.00     138  Leon Williams          Miami                  ILB  6030 245 4.65 7.26     6.95 0.04     139  Joe Toledo             Washington             OT   6060 305  5.1 7.73     6.94 0.00     140  Jeremy Mincey          Florida                DE   6030 262 4.79 7.40     6.94 0.00     141  James Wyche            Syracuse               DE   6050 262  4.8 7.39     6.94 0.00     142  Brad Smith             Missouri               WR   6020 210 4.46 6.86     6.93 0.01     143  Bruce Gradkowski       Toledo                 QB   6020 217 4.67 6.82     6.92 0.00     144  Gerrick McPhearson     Maryland               CB   5100 192 4.25 6.72     6.90 0.02     145  Skyler Green           LSU                    WR   5090 196 4.43 6.65     6.90 0.00     146  Gerald Riggs, Jr.      Tennessee              RB   5110 232 4.68 7.04     6.90 0.00     147  Terna Nande            Miami (OHIO)           OLB  5100 232 4.63 7.08     6.90 0.00     148  Fred Matua             USC                    OG   6020 305  5.1 7.73     6.88 0.02     149  Tony Scheffler         Western Michigan       TE   6050 250 4.73 7.27     6.87 0.01     150  Owen Daniels           Wisconsin              TE   6030 245  4.7 7.22     6.86 0.01     151  Jhari Evans            Bloomsburg State       OT   6040 316 5.23 7.77     6.84 0.02     152  Mike Degory            Florida                C    6050 312 5.26 7.70     6.83 0.01     153  Marcus Hudson          N C State              FS   6020 200 4.55 6.63     6.81 0.02     154  Johnny Jolly           Texas A&M              DT   6030 305  5.1 7.73     6.80 0.01     155  Clint Ingram           Oklahoma               OLB  6020 238  4.6 7.19     6.80 0.00     156  Dawan Landry           Georgia Tech           S    6010 215 4.59 6.84     6.80 0.00     157  Marcus Maxey           Miami                  CB   6030 198 4.44 6.68     6.79 0.01     158  Devin Aromashodu       Auburn                 WR   6025 201  4.4 6.76     6.79 0.00     159  Mike Bell              Arizona                RB   6010 215 4.56 6.87     6.76 0.02     160  Jonathan Orr           Wisconsin              WR   6020 195 4.35 6.70     6.76 0.00Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     161  Mark Setterstrom       Minnesota              OG   6040 305 5.38 7.53     6.76 0.01     162  Travis Williams        Auburn                 OLB  6000 223 4.55 7.00     6.75 0.00     163  Chris Chester          Oklahoma               OG   6030 303 4.85 7.90     6.75 0.00     164  DonTrell Moore         New Mexico             RB   5100 212 4.63 6.77     6.75 0.01     165  Matt Bernstein         Wisconsin              FB   6010 260 4.87 7.31     6.74 0.00     166  Lawrence Vickers       Colorado               FB   6000 245 4.93 7.05     6.74 0.01     167  T.J. Williams          NC State               TE   6021 261 4.78 7.39     6.74 0.00     168  Kellen Clemens         Oregon                 QB   6016 219 4.86 6.71     6.73 0.01     169  Montavious Stanley     Louisville             DT   6020 320  5.2 7.84     6.73 0.00     170  Wali Lundy             Virginia               RB   5110 215 4.45 6.95     6.72 0.01     171  Dale Robinson          Arizona State          ILB  6000 235 4.78 7.01     6.72 0.00     172  Jamar Williams         Arizona State          OLB  6000 245 4.73 7.20     6.70 0.02     173  Freddie Roach          Alabama                ILB  6020 248 4.78 7.20     6.70 0.01     174  Paul McQuistan         Weber State            OT   6060 307 5.24 7.65     6.69 0.00     175  Will Montgomery        Virginia Tech          C    6030 305 4.96 7.84     6.69 0.00     176  Stephen Tullock        NC State               ILB  5100 230 4.72 6.98     6.69 0.01     177  Chris Kuper            North Dakota           OG   6040 305 5.16 7.69     6.69 0.00     178  Taurean Henderson      Texas Tech             RB   5100 205 4.69 6.61     6.67 0.01     179  Cedric Humes           Virginia Tech          RB   6010 227 4.52 7.09     6.67 0.01     180  Titus Adams            Nebraska               DT   6020 316 5.12 7.86     6.66 0.01     181  Keith Ellison          Oregon State           OLB  6010 230  4.7 7.00     6.65 0.01     182  Charles Bennett        Clemson                DE   6030 255 4.78 7.30     6.65 0.01     183  Darrell Hunter         Miami (OHIO)           CB   6000 210 4.41 6.90     6.64 0.00     184  David Pittman          Northwstrn St (LA)     CB   5110 175 4.56 6.19     6.64 0.00     185  Brian Iwuh             Colorado               OLB  6000 227 4.59 7.03     6.64 0.00     186  Tim Dobbins            Iowa State             ILB  6010 245 4.68 7.24     6.61 0.02     187  Nate Salley            Ohio State             FS   6020 215 4.62 6.82     6.60 0.01     188  Frostee Rucker         Southern Cal           DE   6030 262 4.88 7.33     6.59 0.01     189  Chris Gocong           Cal Poly               DE   6020 263 4.78 7.42     6.56 0.03     190  Derrick Morris         NC State               OT   6060 328  5.4 7.79     6.56 0.01     191  Brandon Marshall       Central Florida        WR   6040 226 4.74 6.91     6.56 0.00     192  Pat Ross               Boston College         C    6040 295 5.01 7.67     6.55 0.00Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Code:
Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     193  Brandon Johnson        Louisville             OLB  6050 218 4.48 6.98     6.55 0.00     194  Dwayne Slay            Texas Tech             FS   6030 210 4.83 6.59     6.55 0.00     195  Rashad Butler          Miami                  OT   6050 293 5.18 7.52     6.53 0.02     196  Drew Olson             UCLA                   QB   6020 222 5.15 6.57     6.53 0.00     197  Adam Stenavich         Michigan               OG   6040 318 5.28 7.76     6.51 0.02     198  Omar Gaither           Tennessee              OLB  6014 235 4.75 7.03     6.50 0.01     199  Kedric Golston         Georgia                DT   6040 298 5.05 7.68     6.50 0.01     200  Josh Lay               Pittsburgh             CB   6000 195 4.49 6.59     6.48 0.02     201  Darrell Hackney        UAB                    QB   5113 235  4.9 6.93     6.48 0.00     202  D.J. Shockley          Georgia                QB   6006 205 4.61 6.67     6.46 0.02     203  Dennis Roland          Georgia                OT   6090 308 5.05 7.81     6.46 0.00     204  Tim McGarigle          Northwestern           ILB  6000 235 4.79 7.00     6.45 0.00     205  Guy Whimper            East Carolina          OT   6050 300 4.97 7.77     6.43 0.02     206  Jeff King              Virginia Tech          TE   6050 248  4.8 7.19     6.42 0.01     207  Eric Smith             Michigan State         S    6010 203 4.58 6.66     6.41 0.01     208  Willie Reid            Florida State          WR   5100 188 4.44 6.51     6.40 0.01     209  David Anderson         Colorado State         WR   5096 194 4.55 6.53     6.40 0.00     210  Tommy (T.J.) Jackson   Auburn                 DT   6000 306 5.26 7.63     6.40 0.00     211  Chijioke Onyenegecha   Oklahoma               CB   6010 200 4.44 6.71     6.40 0.00     212  Anthony Schlegel       Ohio State             ILB  6010 245 4.88 7.09     6.39 0.01     213  Troy Reddick           Auburn                 OG   6040 325 5.69 7.56     6.39 0.00     214  Quinn Ojinnaka         Syracuse               OG   6047 293 5.32 7.42     6.38 0.00     215  Manaia Brown           BYU                    DT   6030 314 5.03 7.90     6.37 0.02     216  Trent Bray             Oregon State           ILB  6010 232 4.75 6.99     6.37 0.00     217  Mike Kudla             Ohio State             DE   6020 258 4.95 7.22     6.37 0.00     218  Cory Rodgers           TCU                    WR   6010 195 4.48 6.60     6.35 0.01     219  Le Kevin Smith         Nebraska               DT   6010 308 5.06 7.80     6.35 0.00     220  Quinton Ganther        Utah                   RB   5100 215 4.59 6.84     6.35 0.01     221  Ben Obomanu            Auburn                 WR   6010 202 4.55 6.66     6.34 0.00     222  Charlie Peprah         Alabama                S    5110 214 4.54 6.87     6.32 0.02     223  Freddie Keiaho         San Diego State        ILB  6000 232 4.65 7.06     6.32 0.01     224  Anthony Mix            Auburn                 TE   6040 248 4.58 7.36     6.31 0.01Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     225  Wendell Mathis         Fresno State           RB   6000 215 4.51 6.90     6.31 0.00     226  Ryan LaCasse           Syracuse               DE   6020 252 4.67 7.35     6.27 0.04     227  Jovon Bouknight        Wyoming                WR   6010 191 4.57 6.46     6.25 0.02     228  Marvin Philip          California             C    6010 298 5.15 7.61     6.25 0.00     229  Erik Meyer             Eastern Washington     QB   6010 215 4.94 6.60     6.24 0.01     230  Rob Ninkovich          Purdue                 DE   6020 252 4.74 7.29     6.23 0.01     231  Troy Bienemann         Washington State       TE   6046 259  4.8 7.35     6.23 0.00     232  E.J. Whitley           Texas Tech             OT   6050 305 5.39 7.52     6.23 0.00     233  Charles Davis          Purdue                 TE   6050 238 4.86 7.00     6.21 0.01     234  Delanie Walker         Central Missouri       WR   6010 232 4.52 7.16     6.21 0.00     235  Cory Ross              Nebraska               RB   5060 200  4.5 6.67     6.21 0.00     236  Darrell Brooks         Arizona                FS   6000 220 4.54 6.96     6.21 0.00     237  Brett Basanez          Northwestern           QB   6010 209 4.66 6.70     6.19 0.02     238  Quinn Sypniewski       Colorado               TE   6060 205 4.85 6.50     6.18 0.02     239  Jimmy Martin           Virginia Tech          OT   6050 302 5.16 7.65     6.18 0.00     240  Isaac Sowells          Indiana                OG   6040 325  5.2 7.91     6.17 0.00     241  Cameron Vaughn         LSU                    OLB  6030 238 4.73 7.09     6.17 0.00     242  Charlton Keith         Kansas                 DE   6040 242 4.72 7.16     6.17 0.01     243  Javon Nanton           Miami                  DE   6024 246 4.73 7.21     6.16 0.00     244  Justin Wyatt           USC                    CB   5090 184 4.51 6.39     6.16 0.00     245  Jeremy Bloom           Colorado               WR   5090 175 4.36 6.34     6.16 0.00     246  Donovan Raiola         Wisconsin              C    6020 298 5.26 7.53     6.16 0.00     247  Jeromey Clary          Kansas State           OT   6060 303  5.2 7.63     6.15 0.00     248  Paul Pinegar           Fresno State           QB   6050 234 5.05 6.81     6.15 0.01     249  Antoine Bethea         Howard                 FS   5110 190 4.52 6.48     6.14 0.00     250  Cooper Wallace         Auburn                 TE   6030 238 4.82 7.03     6.14 0.00     251  Marques Colston        Hofstra                WR   6040 225 4.52 7.06     6.14 0.00     252  Kevin Simon            Tennessee              OLB  5110 232  4.6 7.10     6.13 0.01     253  Willie Andrews         Baylor                 S    5090 190 4.46 6.53     6.13 0.00     254  Domata Peko            Michigan State         DT   6020 320 5.08 7.94     6.12 0.01     255  Reuben Houston         Georgia Tech           CB   6000 188  4.5 6.46     6.12 0.00     256  John Torp              Colorado               P    6010 195 4.73 6.42     6.11 0.01Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     257  Miles Austin           Monmouth               WR   6020 225 4.59 7.00     6.10 0.00     258  McKinley Boykin        Mississippi            DT   6010 298 5.05 7.68     6.10 0.00     259  J.D.Runnels            Oklahoma               FB   5115 237 4.65 7.14     6.09 0.02     260  Tarvaris Jackson       Alabama State          QB   6020 225 4.75 6.88     6.08 0.01     261  Michael Toudouze       TCU                    OT   6060 310 5.31 7.64     6.08 0.00     262  Scott Ware             Southern Cal           S    6030 218 4.62 6.87     6.08 0.00     263  Terrence Whitehead     Oregon                 RB   5100 220 4.65 6.88     6.07 0.01     264  Derrick Ross           Tarleton State         RB   5110 228 4.52 7.10     6.06 0.00     265  Albert Toeaina         Tennessee              OT   6050 350 5.35 8.09     6.06 0.00     266  Marcus Demps           San Diego State        FS   6000 200 4.51 6.66     6.06 0.00     267  Steve Weathorford      Illinois               P    6020 195 4.82 6.36     6.05 0.00     268  Rob Meadow             Washington             OG   6050 305 5.18 7.67     6.05 0.01     269  Will Allen             Texas                  OG   6050 293 5.25 7.47     6.04 0.00     270  Brad Butler            Virginia               OT   6070 305 5.29 7.59     6.04 0.00     271  Oliver Hoyte           N C State              ILB  6020 246 4.84 7.13     6.04 0.00     272  Matt Lentz             Michigan               OG   6050 338 5.26 8.02     6.02 0.01     273  William Kershaw        Maryland               OLB  6024 230 4.66 7.03     6.01 0.01     274  Tim Massaquoi          Michigan               TE   6030 260  4.9 7.28     6.01 0.00     275  Clinton Solomon        Iowa                   WR   6024 199 4.52 6.64     6.00 0.01     276  Gilbert Harris         Arizona                FB   6020 235 4.84 6.97     5.99 0.01     277  Chris Harrell          Penn State             S    6020 210 4.55 6.79     5.98 0.02     278  Donald Penn            Utah State             OT   6040 312 5.05 7.86     5.96 0.01     279  David Kirtman          USC                    FB   6000 225  4.7 6.92     5.96 0.00     280  Jarrad Page            UCLA                   S    6010 230  4.6 7.07     5.95 0.01     281  Marcus Vick            Virginia Tech          QB   6000 212 4.51 6.86     5.95 0.01     282  Sir Henry Anderson     Oregon State           DT   6030 315 5.22 7.77     5.95 0.00     283  Travis Lulay           Montana State          QB   6020 228 4.73 6.94     5.94 0.00     284  Justin London          UCLA                   ILB  6006 231 4.79 6.94     5.94 0.01     285  Cody Douglas           Tennessee              OG   6043 317  5.5 7.59     5.93 0.00     286  Barrick Nealy          Texas State            QB   6037 209 4.63 6.72     5.91 0.02     287  Greg Threat            Miami                  S    6000 200  4.6 6.59     5.91 0.00     288  Nichiren Flowers       Nevada                 WR   6016 204  4.6 6.66     5.91 0.00Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     289  Rob Smith              Tennessee              OG   6040 308  5.3 7.62     5.89 0.01     290  Melvin Oliver          LSU                    DE   6030 276 5.08 7.37     5.89 0.00     291  Tony Tella             Miami                  OG   6050 305  5.2 7.66     5.89 0.00     292  Steve Fifita           Utah                   DT   5110 322 5.16 7.90     5.89 0.00     293  Marcus Green           Ohio State             DT   6020 295  5.1 7.61     5.89 0.00     294  Jon Scifres            SW Mo State            PK   6004 225    5 6.71     5.88 0.01     295  Quadtrine Hill         Miami                  FB   6020 228 4.65 7.00     5.88 0.00     296  Josh Huston            Ohio State             PK   6010 205 4.92 6.45     5.87 0.01     297  John Walker            USC                    CB   6001 199  4.5 6.65     5.87 0.00     298  Antonio Malone         Toledo                 CB   5100 182 4.41 6.42     5.87 0.00     299  Damarius Bilbo         Georgia Tech           WR   6016 222 4.56 6.98     5.86 0.00     300  Dion Byrum             Ohio                   CB   5110 192 4.38 6.62     5.84 0.02     301  Copeland Bryan         Arizona                DE   6040 250  4.9 7.14     5.83 0.01     302  Darrell Adams          Villanova              DE   6040 265 4.85 7.39     5.83 0.01     303  Ingle Martin           Furman                 QB   6020 223 4.68 6.90     5.82 0.01     304  Jason Hatcher          Grambling State        DE   6060 282 4.75 7.71     5.81 0.00     305  Will Derting           Washington State       OLB  5116 230  4.7 7.00     5.80 0.01     306  Jason Carter           Texas A&M              WR   6000 206 4.53 6.74     5.79 0.00     307  Mark LeVoir            Notre Dame             OT   6061 324 5.45 7.71     5.78 0.01     308  Willie Evans           Mississippi St         DE   6014 260 4.95 7.25     5.78 0.00     309  Gerald Anderson        Georgia                DT   6014 310  5.4 7.58     5.77 0.01     310  Ryan Plackemeier       Wake Forest            P    6030 238  5.2 6.77     5.77 0.00     311  Jabari Levey           South Carolina         OT   6050 312 5.35 7.64     5.76 0.01     312  Jason Pociask          Wisconsin              TE   6030 265 4.76 7.46     5.75 0.00     313  Jahmile Addae          West Virginia          FS   5110 205 4.64 6.65     5.75 0.00     314  Ryan Gibbons           Northeastern           OT   6060 325  5.3 7.83     5.75 0.00     315  Grayling Love          Arizona State          C    6030 295 5.47 7.34     5.74 0.01     316  Manase Hopoi           Washington             DE   6030 285  5.2 7.40     5.74 0.00     317  Larry Dibbles          Texas                  DT   6020 285  5.1 7.48     5.73 0.01     318  Domenik Hixon          Akron                  WR   6020 192 4.52 6.52     5.73 0.00     319  Ed Hinkel              Iowa                   WR   6000 190  4.5 6.50     5.72 0.01     320  Willie Hall            Middle Tenn St         OT   6060 310  5.3 7.65     5.72 0.00Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     321  Adam Jennings          Fresno State           WR   5100 176 4.36 6.35     5.71 0.00     322  Jami Hightower         Texas A&M              OT   6040 360 5.23 8.30     5.71 0.00     323  Terrance Pennington    New Mexico             OT   6070 325 5.43 7.74     5.71 0.00     324  Pierre Woods           Michigan               OLB  6040 250  4.8 7.22     5.70 0.01     325  Dee McCann             West Virginia          CB   5110 198 4.51 6.63     5.70 0.00     326  T.J. Rushing           Stanford               CB   5090 185 4.45 6.45     5.70 0.00     327  Kader Drame            Syracuse               DT   6050 292 5.07 7.59     5.68 0.02     328  Reed Doughty           Northern Colorado      FS   6010 210 4.69 6.69     5.68 0.00     329  Naufahu Tahi           BYU                    FB   6000 254 4.94 7.17     5.67 0.01     330  Tyrone Culver          Fresno State           FS   6010 192 4.55 6.50     5.65 0.01     331  Tre Stallings          Mississippi            OG   6040 315  5.1 7.86     5.65 0.00     332  Rashon Powers-Neal     Notre Dame             FB   6020 236  4.8 7.01     5.65 0.00     333  Nick Mihlhauser        Washington State       C    6031 293  5.1 7.58     5.65 0.00     334  Kendrick Jones         Illinois               WR   6013 185 4.45 6.45     5.64 0.01     335  Mathew Rice            Penn State             DE   6030 256 4.87 7.25     5.63 0.01     336  Ryan Gilbert           Houston                RB   5100 228  4.6 7.04     5.63 0.00     337  Brett Bell             Wisconsin              CB   6000 190 4.54 6.47     5.62 0.01     338  Chris Hawkins          Marshall               CB   5100 181 4.43 6.39     5.60 0.02     339  Chris Barclay          Wake Forest            RB   5100 188 4.51 6.46     5.59 0.00     340  Damien Rhodes          Syracuse               RB   5117 207 4.54 6.75     5.58 0.02     341  Shawn Willis           Oklahoma State         FB   6010 255 4.75 7.33     5.57 0.01     342  Anthony Montgomery     Minnesota              DT   6050 315  5.2 7.78     5.55 0.02     343  Bobby Iwuchukwu        Purdue                 OLB  6012 239 4.65 7.17     5.54 0.01     344  Nick Reid              Kansas                 ILB  6030 230 4.73 6.97     5.54 0.00     345  Seppo Evwaraye         Nebraska               OT   6050 330  5.2 7.97     5.54 0.00     346  Chris Hannon           Tennessee              WR   6030 205  4.5 6.75     5.53 0.01     347  Erik Gill              Pittsburgh             TE   6040 265 4.85 7.39     5.52 0.01     348  Sam Paulescu           Oregon State           P    6000 245 4.98 7.01     5.52 0.00     349  Boone Stutz            Texas A&M              TE   6060 262 5.09 7.17     5.50 0.02     350  Brian Van Acker        Northern Illinois      C    6040 300  5.3 7.52     5.49 0.01     351  Anthony Madison        Alabama                CB   5090 181 4.55 6.31     5.48 0.01     352  Alvin Smith            Oregon State           DT   6020 320 5.34 7.74     5.48 0.01Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff     353  Justin Holland         Colorado State         QB   6020 210  4.9 6.55     5.47 0.01     354  Stephen Gostkowski     Memphis                PK   6007 214 4.99 6.55     5.47 0.00     355  Fred Evans             Texas State            DT   6050 307  5.4 7.54     5.47 0.00     356  Brandon Guillory       Louisiana-Monroe       DE   6040 252 4.56 7.43     5.46 0.01     357  Anthony Trucks         Oregon                 OLB  6010 230  4.8 6.92     5.45 0.00     358  Stefon Wheeler         Michigan State         OT   6050 338 5.86 7.59     5.45 0.00     359  Ryan Neill             Rutgers                DE   6020 265 4.87 7.38     5.44 0.02     360  Patrick Cobbs          North Texas            RB   5080 210 4.65 6.72     5.43 0.00     361  Brent Hawkins          Illinois St            DE   6025 245 4.74 7.19     5.43 0.00     362  Kevin Schimmelmann     Stanford               ILB  6024 226 4.73 6.91     5.42 0.02     363  Jared Ellerson         Minnesota              WR   6006 192  4.6 6.46     5.42 0.00     364  Randy Hand             Florida                OT   6060 310  5.1 7.80     5.38 0.03     365  Gabriel Fulbright      New Mexico             CB   5100 198 4.57 6.58     5.38 0.01     366  Patrick Massey         Michigan               DE   6080 280    5 7.48     5.30 0.08     367  John Chick             Utah State             OLB  6030 245  4.6 7.30     5.30 0.00     368  Steve Williams         NW Missouri State      DT   6030 300 5.04 7.72     5.28 0.02     369  Demetrius Summers      South Carolina         RB   6010 207 4.55 6.74     5.25 0.03     370  Jay McCareins          Princeton              CB   5110 190 4.55 6.46     5.23 0.02     371  Shannon James          Massachusetts          S    5094 200 4.45 6.70     5.22 0.01     372  LaJuan Ramsey          USC                    DT   6024 294 5.22 7.50     5.19 0.03     373  Lonta Hobbs            TCU                    RB   5100 220 4.51 6.98     5.15 0.04     374  Shelton Sampson        Northwstrn St. (LA)    RB   6000 225 4.55 7.03     5.06 0.09     375  Mike Mohoric           New Mexico             ILB  6020 240  4.8 7.07     5.02 0.04     376  Quincy Butler          TCU                    CB   6000 190 4.55 6.46     4.97 0.05     377  Travis Glasford        Western Illinois       RB   5090 185 4.45 6.45     4.94 0.03     378  Marvin Byrdsong        Northwstrn St. (LA)    OLB  6020 250  4.8 7.22     4.85 0.09     379  Selvin Young           Texas                  RB   6000 210 4.52 6.82     4.84 0.01     380  Joe Sykes              Southern University    DE   6040 275 4.52 7.80     4.69 0.15Rank      Name                   School                 POS  Ht   Wt  40   SSR  Avg Rate Diff
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Would you please ask the guy which writeups he likes the most among the various draft guides?

 
Made Them Sortable

Above I have made them sortable if anyone can help with the missing headers.
You beat me to the punch... if possible, I would make it "filterable"... where you can only select the WRs (from a dropdown list) that have a "under 4.45/40" and a 90+ rating according to ESPN... etc.(I've created an excel spreadsheet with that information... where you can make any calculation possible... per. ex - what's the standard deviation of Laurence Maroney's rankings comparatively to the average of RBs - to see if it's only 2 or 3 "draft experts" that are in love with him - or if it's a generalised feeling...)

Making it "filterable"/"sortable" would surely make that thread "pinnable" here to say the least... having the predraft rankings of 9 highly touted publications weighted in an overall ranking...

I think you are still better off with having ? as the headers... since this information is coming from paying sites/publications...

Just to let you know (from the order that you have on your site):

1. ESPN / Scouts Inc.;

2. Draft Exchange;

3. Draft Insider (Coyle);

4. DSL;

5. Kiper Jr.;

6. Ourlads;

7. PFW;

8. SportNews;

9. FB Room.

 
The height, weight and 40 times are way off on some of these.  Vernon Davis at 4.58?
You have to remember this is an AVERAGE of all the other publications. So if someone had V. Davis at a 4.6 and someone else had him at 4.56 then his average would be 4.58. You guys need to remember that this list is a compiled list which averages all the publications scores. I'm sure V.Davis still rates out to be the #1 TE by far if you look at the other TE's.In the original document that he gave me he has a category that compares him to all the other TE's as well as all other prospects. But the mathematical equations he uses are just too much I think. We already know that V. Davis is the best ranked TE and we already know that Mario Williams is just as much of a freak at DE. If you guys would like me to email the entire document to you I'd be willing but I'm serious when I say the math he uses is a bit too much. The guy uses square roots and fractions etc, etc...it would take me a while just to figure out what he was thinking when he made them up.

*** Also, some of these publications had their numbers prior to the combine (maybe from a college program or from the coach etc...) so keep that in mind should something jump out at you. I'm sure some of these publications aren't as current as others, just like any fantasy mag, so take it with a grain of salt. This list is just meant to give you an indepth reference tool...it's not the ten commandments.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The height, weight and 40 times are way off on some of these.  Vernon Davis at 4.58?
You have to remember this is an AVERAGE of all the other publications. So if someone had V. Davis at a 4.6 and someone else had him at 4.56 then his average would be 4.58. You guys need to remember that this list is a compiled list which averages all the publications scores. I'm sure V.Davis still rates out to be the #1 TE by far if you look at the other TE's.In the original document that he gave me he has a category that compares him to all the other TE's as well as all other prospects. But the mathematical equations he uses are just too much I think. We already know that V. Davis is the best ranked TE and we already know that Mario Williams is just as much of a freak at DE. If you guys would like me to email the entire document to you I'd be willing but I'm serious when I say the math he uses is a bit too much. The guy uses square roots and fractions etc, etc...it would take me a while just to figure out what he was thinking when he made them up.

*** Also, some of these publications had their numbers prior to the combine (maybe from a college program or from the coach etc...) so keep that in mind should something jump out at you. I'm sure some of these publications aren't as current as others, just like any fantasy mag, so take it with a grain of salt. This list is just meant to give you an indepth reference tool...it's not the ten commandments.
I'd love that... I finally have found something where my Applied Math Masters degree will come handy! :P jfvanier@hotmail.com

 
Hey guys...

He just gave me a new page that has the prospects ranked by position. If I haven't already mailed you the whole document and you would like this new page (by position rankings) let me know.

 
Tell your guy to walk thru the '06 list and see how he did.

I'm curious if he got all 250+ guys that were drafted in his top 260.

 
Tell your guy to walk thru the '06 list and see how he did.I'm curious if he got all 250+ guys that were drafted in his top 260.
Didn't check, but it's doubtful two of the players the Bengals drafted as special teams help (Ethan Kilmer and Bennie Brazell) would have made a list like this. Neither were considered NFL ready talent at their listed position (both WRs in college I believe).
 
Tell your guy to walk thru the '06 list and see how he did.I'm curious if he got all 250+ guys that were drafted in his top 260.
Didn't check, but it's doubtful two of the players the Bengals drafted as special teams help (Ethan Kilmer and Bennie Brazell) would have made a list like this. Neither were considered NFL ready talent at their listed position (both WRs in college I believe).
Probably true, and WRs suffered a great deal in the draft unexpectedly, but since he has the spreadsheet I'm sure he can check.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top