4(102) Jordan Cameron, TE, Cleveland (2 Viewers)

[timoleander]

I suck at predicting when to sit Cameron; I've benched him twice this year. Here are his numbers in those games - 6/66/3 TDs, and 9/121/1 TD (this week). I guess I'll just pencil him in for the remainder of the playoffs and just take the 2/31/0 he puts up this week.

 

[irishnips]

Noooo...please do the rest of us Cameron owners a favor and bench him

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Sat of interest on Cleveland TE Jordan Cameron.

With three games left to play.

TE Jordan Cameron is only 175 yards away from a 1,000 yard season.

 

[timoleander]

Sat of interest on Cleveland TE Jordan Cameron.

With three games left to play.

TE Jordan Cameron is only 175 yards away from a 1,000 yard season.

I hope he gets it all this week.

 

[TeeDub]

Are you guys truly trusting him to start now? I'm guessing you already have back ups like garret graham, walker, fleener, and now pitta.

 

[Billy Bats]

I'm going back to him. I started Martellus Bennett last week, partly for my game matchup and Cameron being quiet lately. But as he showed the upside is too good to keep him on the bench. For me his floor is what Bennett would do, but his upside is way better than anything I could get out of Bennett.

 

[MattFancy]

I'm going back to him. I started Martellus Bennett last week, partly for my game matchup and Cameron being quiet lately. But as he showed the upside is too good to keep him on the bench. For me his floor is what Bennett would do, but his upside is way better than anything I could get out of Bennett.

That's a really good way to put it. We've seen Cameron's upside can be right up there with Graham/Gronk. And we've seen his floor can be right there with the Cook/Bennett types.

 

[McGarnicle]

I'm going back to him. I started Martellus Bennett last week, partly for my game matchup and Cameron being quiet lately. But as he showed the upside is too good to keep him on the bench. For me his floor is what Bennett would do, but his upside is way better than anything I could get out of Bennett.

That's a really good way to put it. We've seen Cameron's upside can be right up there with Graham/Gronk. And we've seen his floor can be right there with the Cook/Bennett types.

My dilemma is I have Davis who usually outscores Cameron. But Cameron tends to have a higher ceiling than Davis -- when he goes off, it's often a huge number.Probably will stick with Davis. Cameron has had one big week out of the last 5, where Davis has been solid almost every week.

 

[Catbird]

The question for me has been whether Campbell would ever get a grip on how to use Cameron. Despairing of that, I sat Jordan these last 2 weeks. With the huge defensive focus EVERYONE now has to place on hoping to at least limit Gordon, and with Campbell finally demonstrating that when this happens he can use Cameron AND IS ABLE TO DO SO, I feel a LOT more confident about rolling with Jordan. I see last week as Campbell turning a corner in Cameron usage. (My counter-concern now is that NE might have been encouraged to go all out to stop Gordon because Cameron had been doing absolutely nothing - which won't likely be a Bears' mistake this week.) Still, Cameron over Clay and Ladarius.

 

[ArbyMelt]

This guy have a pulse today?

 

[need2know]

i hate you cameron

 

[avina1]

not like Josh Gordon is doing anything.

 

[JoeSteeler]

need a couple garbage time catches 2 for 44 would be nice!

 

[The Hank]

I suck at predicting when to sit Cameron; I've benched him twice this year. Here are his numbers in those games - 6/66/3 TDs, and 9/121/1 TD (this week). I guess I'll just pencil him in for the remainder of the playoffs and just take the 2/31/0 he puts up this week.

I need to know right now if you are playing him or benching him!

 

[need2know]

I still hate him but am going to keep playing him. Only other option is walker but he burned me too last time I started him. I figure clv should be passing alot this week

 

[Purple_King]

I'm picking up Ertz and will probably start him over Jordan.

 

[cpd90]

Considering Pitta this week, but I need the upside so I'm going with Cameron, He got me where I am (won me probably 3 games on his own) so I'll let him have the chance to do it again.

 

[Yenrub]

I'm torn between Cameron and D.Walker this week

 

[The Hank]

Per Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle, Jordan Cameron is not practicing today because of concussion.

I am sitting Cameron and starting Delanie Walker w/ confidence now.

 

[JohnnyU]

Per Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle, Jordan Cameron is not practicing today because of concussion.

I am sitting Cameron and starting Delanie Walker w/ confidence now.

Jordan Cameron is in the concussion protocol

Jordan Cameron (concussion) will not practice Wednesday.
Cameron reported symptoms on Monday, at which point the concussion was diagnosed. It makes him highly questionable for Sunday's game against the Jets as he'll have to pass through the NFL's protocols quickly. Owners that had Cameron penciled into Week 16 lineups need to quickly scurry for alternatives as there's no real in-house option on the Browns. Delanie Walker and Tyler Eifert (if Jermaine Gresham is out) are desperation plug-n-play possibilities.

 

[cpd90]

FFS where did this come from? Pitta it is, I guess.

 

[MattFancy]

That's just great. I picked up Ladarius Green a few weeks ago and used the rest of my FAAB money. Looks like if Cameron doesn't go, I'll have to use Green.

 

[White Lightning]

FFS where did this come from? Pitta it is, I guess.

As someone that got screwed by Pitta last week, I wouldn't recommend him. In his second game back he was only in for 50% of the snaps and targeted 4 times.

 

[ROCKET]

FFS where did this come from? Pitta it is, I guess.

As someone that got screwed by Pitta last week, I wouldn't recommend him. In his second game back he was only in for 50% of the snaps and targeted 4 times.

Pitta should be gold this week vs New England, look what a struggling Cameron did to them two weeks ago.

 

[need2know]

Pitta and walker are available in my league. Would you drop cameron for one? If so, which one? No need to carry two tes with this being the last week

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Walker was in my lineup for the Championship anyways but this definitely makes it an easier choice

 

[White Lightning]

Pitta and walker are available in my league. Would you drop cameron for one? If so, which one? No need to carry two tes with this being the last week

As I stated above, I was burned by Pitta only playing 50% of the snaps in week 15. I would probably go with Walker.

 

[loonzilla]

He has concussion symptoms and undergoing concussion protocol. S$%%#T!!!!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10157851/jordan-cameron-cleveland-browns-undergoing-concussion-protocol

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordan Cameron (concussion) is not practicing again Thursday.

Players, coaches and media are talking as if they won't have Cameron for Sunday's game against the Jets. It's not a surprise as a concussion kept him out of the final two games last season. Fantasy owners scraping the waiver wire for a plug-n-play at tight end can look to Delanie Walker, Dennis Pitta and Ryan Griffin. Cameron is a hold until he's officially ruled out, but there's a good chance his breakout season is over.


Source: Nate Ulrich on Twitter

 

[Tackling Dummies]

MOAR Gordon!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Feel free to join any of the Gronk/Reed/Fleener or Pitta/Quarless/Ertz/Walker/Eifert threads.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Cameron ruled out this week.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/279957/browns-rule-jordan-cameron-out-for-week-16

 

[dukezib]

And now? Cameron is out. Now fantasy semifinal. PPR. Waiver wire has:

Tyler Eifert vs MIN; Scott Chandler vs MIA; Logan Paulsen vs DAL; Zah Ertz vs CHI

Who is "less worst"?

 

[TheFly06]

And now? Cameron is out. Now fantasy semifinal. PPR. Waiver wire has:

Tyler Eifert vs MIN; Scott Chandler vs MIA; Logan Paulsen vs DAL; Zah Ertz vs CHI

Who is "less worst"?

Ryan Griffin if available.

 

[dukezib]

And now? Cameron is out. Now fantasy semifinal. PPR. Waiver wire has:

Tyler Eifert vs MIN; Scott Chandler vs MIA; Logan Paulsen vs DAL; Zah Ertz vs CHI

Who is "less worst"?

Ryan Griffin if available.

Yes, Ryan Griffin is available... with Matt Schaub under center. His matchup worth more than Eifert's?

 

[zftcg]

And now? Cameron is out. Now fantasy semifinal. PPR. Waiver wire has:

Tyler Eifert vs MIN; Scott Chandler vs MIA; Logan Paulsen vs DAL; Zah Ertz vs CHI

Who is "less worst"?

Ryan Griffin if available.

Yes, Ryan Griffin is available... with Matt Schaub under center. His matchup worth more than Eifert's?

Eifert's value is minimal with Gresham playing. I'm starting Griffin in a league over all the guys you mentioned plus MLewis, Quarrels and Fleener.

Check out the thread on him elsewhere in the forum. Rotoworld also had a good rundown of WW TEs today. If Walker, Miller or Pitta are available in your league, I'd go with them. But I'd definitely put Griffin over any of the guys you mentioned.

 

[dukezib]

The last ones you've mentioned were gone weeks ago. Thanks for all the info. I'll read the topic and the rotoworld column. I ask some lineup help in the assit.coach area too...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701877

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordan Cameron (questionable, concussion) still needs clearance from an independent neurologist to play in Week 17 against the Steelers.
Cameron has been cleared to practice, but the Browns likely won't decide his Week 17 availability until Saturday or Sunday morning. With nothing to play for -- and draft slotting to gain with a loss -- it's entirely possible Cleveland will err on the side of caution and hold Cameron out of Sunday's finale.

Source: ESPN.com

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The loss of HC Rob Chudzinski and OC Norv Turner is expected to negatively impact Jordan Cameron.

Once Chudzinski was hired a year ago, every sharp fantasy owner pegged Cameron as a prime breakout candidate. That's because Chud, a former tight end himself, runs schemes that had previously coaxed career years out of Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen. Cameron proceeded to put his own mark on the position, ripping off a 80/917/7 line -- good for a No. 5 ranking among fantasy tight ends. He's talented enough to succeed in any scheme, but a new regime is unlikely to feature him as heavily.


Source: ESPN Cleveland

 

[MattFancy]

Will be really interesting to see what the new regime will do with Cameron. He certainly has the talent and ability to succeed. I'd imagine a new QB would do wonders too. He's either going to go earlier than he should in re-drafts or he'll fall again and could be a steal.

 

[Soulfly3]

Forget the system he'll be in...

If he doesn't work on CATCHING the ball, he'll end up continuing his 2nd half of season trend.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Rotoworld:

The loss of HC Rob Chudzinski and OC Norv Turner is expected to negatively impact Jordan Cameron.

Once Chudzinski was hired a year ago, every sharp fantasy owner pegged Cameron as a prime breakout candidate. That's because Chud, a former tight end himself, runs schemes that had previously coaxed career years out of Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen. Cameron proceeded to put his own mark on the position, ripping off a 80/917/7 line -- good for a No. 5 ranking among fantasy tight ends. He's talented enough to succeed in any scheme, but a new regime is unlikely to feature him as heavily.


Source: ESPN Cleveland

way too early to say this, we have no idea who the Coach/OC and QB are

Most coaches give the ball to their playmakers, outside of Gordon this offense has nothing besides Cameron

 

[Soulfly3]

... and Sammy Watkins

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Rotoworld:

The loss of HC Rob Chudzinski and OC Norv Turner is expected to negatively impact Jordan Cameron.

Once Chudzinski was hired a year ago, every sharp fantasy owner pegged Cameron as a prime breakout candidate. That's because Chud, a former tight end himself, runs schemes that had previously coaxed career years out of Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen. Cameron proceeded to put his own mark on the position, ripping off a 80/917/7 line -- good for a No. 5 ranking among fantasy tight ends. He's talented enough to succeed in any scheme, but a new regime is unlikely to feature him as heavily.


Source: ESPN Cleveland

way too early to say this, we have no idea who the Coach/OC and QB are

Most coaches give the ball to their playmakers, outside of Gordon this offense has nothing besides Cameron

Premature to start downgrading players without all of the information in place.

The players named who were coached up to highly productive levels under Chud continued to be highly productive after Chud left.

Wait till the new HC and OC are hired but even then I think Cameron will be fine.

 

[Phenix]

Rotoworld:

The loss of HC Rob Chudzinski and OC Norv Turner is expected to negatively impact Jordan Cameron.

Once Chudzinski was hired a year ago, every sharp fantasy owner pegged Cameron as a prime breakout candidate. That's because Chud, a former tight end himself, runs schemes that had previously coaxed career years out of Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen. Cameron proceeded to put his own mark on the position, ripping off a 80/917/7 line -- good for a No. 5 ranking among fantasy tight ends. He's talented enough to succeed in any scheme, but a new regime is unlikely to feature him as heavily.


Source: ESPN Cleveland

way too early to say this, we have no idea who the Coach/OC and QB are

Most coaches give the ball to their playmakers, outside of Gordon this offense has nothing besides Cameron

I love the fact many are going to be unloading him this year because of a websites opinion.

Thank you Rotoworld. BUY BUY BUY!!!

 

[CalBear]

Losing Norv Turner is an upgrade. It's hard to go down when you're the 24th scoring offense in 2012, but the Browns managed it by bringing in Turner and finishing 27th.

 

[Faust]

Adam Gase is reported as one of the Browns top choices, and he seemed to have no issues getting the ball distributed to the Broncos top playmaking TE in Julius Thomas.

 

[Shutout]

Adam Gase is reported as one of the Browns top choices, and he seemed to have no issues getting the ball distributed to the Broncos top playmaking TE in Julius Thomas.

Yes, but he has Peyton Manning as his delivery boy and the luxury of Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, and We Welker to help draw away attention.

The Browns don't have that.

I don't know if this is fact, but I suspect that if we did a study of the coaching hires each year where teams go out and snag other teams' OCs, that we would see that it seldom works out the way we connect the dots (Ohh, coach X is an awesome running coach, he will boost the value of RB Y).

Many said that Fitz would have a 2012 Reggie Wayne year in 2013. He didn't. MANY said that TRICH would be unstoppable with Turner. I

It's probably hit or miss but I don't think its more likely than likely that the success carries over because these owners should realize that these coaches don't bring Peyton Manning or ADP with them.

 

[Faust]

Adam Gase is reported as one of the Browns top choices, and he seemed to have no issues getting the ball distributed to the Broncos top playmaking TE in Julius Thomas.

Yes, but he has Peyton Manning as his delivery boy and the luxury of Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, and We Welker to help draw away attention.

The Browns don't have that.

I don't know if this is fact, but I suspect that if we did a study of the coaching hires each year where teams go out and snag other teams' OCs, that we would see that it seldom works out the way we connect the dots (Ohh, coach X is an awesome running coach, he will boost the value of RB Y).

Many said that Fitz would have a 2012 Reggie Wayne year in 2013. He didn't. MANY said that TRICH would be unstoppable with Turner. I

It's probably hit or miss but I don't think its more likely than likely that the success carries over because these owners should realize that these coaches don't bring Peyton Manning or ADP with them.

The only thing that I meant by my posting is that any panic over losing Chud is a touch premature, as we don't know what the offensive philosophy will be until a new HC and OC are hired, and that some (like Gase) likely wouldn't change the game plan too far away from what works, and from the playmakers who are already in place.

 

[Faust]

Cleveland Browns' tight end Jordan Cameron not talking about possible contract extensionThis could be shaping up to being a big year for Cameron. The Josh Gordon suspension should make Cameron the top target in this offense; however, the drawback is that he currently doesn't have much help to draw coverage away from him either.