4(102) Jordan Cameron, TE, Cleveland (2 Viewers)

[Acrobat7]

Graham injured/ on a bye. Kelce on a bye. Welcome to my lineup Jordan Cameron.

PS: Will probably drop you after week 6.

Please keep us up to date on the luxuries of a 2 team yahoo free league.

It's a keeper league where I had Graham and Cameron. Can only keep up to two TEs, therefore no need for Cameron.

But why am I explaining myself to a guy everybody makes fun of?

 

[LittlePhatty]

I have a feeling that this week will be Cameron's first big game of the season.

Hoyer is playing well, they're at home and desparately need a win against a division rival.

Starting him. Anyone with me?

 

[jmcamjr]

I just swapped out underperforming Witten for Cameron which means Witten is going to have a big game. Cameron is finally 100% and looks good to break out.

 

[thecardiackid]

I have a feeling that this week will be Cameron's first big game of the season.

Hoyer is playing well, they're at home and desparately need a win against a division rival.

Starting him. Anyone with me?

iirc, it was vs. PIT when he ripped a 40'ish yard rec. early in the game and hurt his shoulder again. shazier is out and the steelers D isn't what it used to be. and, damnit, as a cameron owner and CLE fan, he's gotta be due for a solid game.

70 and a score.

 

[Phenomena]

I just swapped out underperforming Witten for Cameron which means Witten is going to have a big game. Cameron is finally 100% and looks good to break out.

I don't think either is a bad play this week. Witten's skill hasn't eroded at all ... he's being asked to block more. As teams focus on stopping Murray, the intermediate game will open up. I consider Witten a buy-low right now.

As for Cameron, I don't know what to expect. Hoyer, like Foles, spreads the ball well. I hope Cameron has a big game in the next week or two, so I can trade him off.

 

[cvnpoka]

I have a feeling that this week will be Cameron's first big game of the season.

Hoyer is playing well, they're at home and desparately need a win against a division rival.

Starting him. Anyone with me?

i have no choice as my 2nd flex for an ffpc team. thought i was getting great value in the early 4th round but man its been a disappointment.

 

[OU#1]

Getting really sick of watching this guy do absolutely nothing. What happened to him being the #1 option with Gordon out? Another quarter goes by and another 0 target goosegg.

 

[bucsbaby]

Injuries must be a factor. Can't think of any other explanation, really. He's a good-to-great player when healthy.

 

[OU#1]

Ok I think it's safe to say my call-out/reverse jinx worked. 2 catches now for 93 yards and a 51 yard TD

 

[cpd90]

There he is. 51-yard TD catch.

 

[Acrobat7]

Graham injured/ on a bye. Kelce on a bye. Welcome to my lineup Jordan Cameron.

PS: Will probably drop you after week 6.

Hmmm....

 

[ImTheScientist]

Graham injured/ on a bye. Kelce on a bye. Welcome to my lineup Jordan Cameron.

PS: Will probably drop you after week 6.

Hmmm....

drop him.

 

[mr roboto]

Getting really sick of watching this guy do absolutely nothing. What happened to him being the #1 option with Gordon out? Another quarter goes by and another 0 target goosegg.

 

[Hoss Style]

**crickets**

6 targets and 1 catch.

I didn't see the game yet. What the hell happened?

 

[skol asylum]

Between Cameron and Davis, I have the most frustrating on paper talented but not doing it on the field TE duo. :sigh:

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Feel like a criminal, traded Cameron for Olsen, Tavon, and a 1st before the season.

 

[cpd90]

Traded him in a package for Antonio Brown this past week...yay.

 

[purestrength]

Was today Cameron's fault or Hoyer's?

 

[Acrobat7]

Started him over Jimmy Graham. I better win this week by 0.5 points!

 

[soothsayer]

Was today Cameron's fault or Hoyer's?

From what I saw it was all on Hoyer. Was wide open in the end zone early in the game and Hoyer threw it 15 feet over his head. Was wide open at least a couple of other times and Hoyer didn't even get it in the vicinity. The opportunities were there - the QB wasn't.

 

[cvnpoka]

**crickets**

6 targets and 1 catch.

I didn't see the game yet. What the hell happened?

hoyer was crap. he didnt look at cameron much anyway. he did miss cameron on a completely wide open td pass from like the 10. it was an insanely easy throw and he missed by a mile.

still, his usage was disconcerting.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

**crickets**

6 targets and 1 catch.

I didn't see the game yet. What the hell happened?

hoyer was crap. he didnt look at cameron much anyway. he did miss cameron on a completely wide open td pass from like the 10. it was an insanely easy throw and he missed by a mile.

still, his usage was disconcerting.

Pettine saying they won't "force" it to Cameron:

Pettine would like to see Cameron, 26, become more involved without quarterback Brian Hoyer feeling pressured to target him.

“If he’s open in the read and the ball gets thrown to him, he needs to catch it, but we’re not going to force a ball to somebody to try to reverse-engineer it — like if he gets more catches we’ll be successful,” Pettine said. “If teams are taking him away, then we have to go elsewhere. If he’s open and we get the ball to him, then that’s what we want. You hope over time that happens because he is an elite player at that position, but you don’t want to force it.”

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-tight-end-jordan-cameron-s-production-has-dipped-but-his-confidence-has-not-i-think-i-m-an-elite-player-1.534931

He's the big time football coach but I don't think that's right. He's one of their best receivers, they should get him the ball to help them get downfield.

 

[cstu]

He's the big time football coach but I don't think that's right. He's one of their best receivers, they should get him the ball to help them get downfield.

He's 3-3...can't argue with success (as a Browns HC).

 

[georg013]

Hoping he signs elsewhere next season. Like Atlanta.

 

[Bobby Guano]

From what I've seen of the Browns this year the issue is not Cameron, he's getting open for sure. Most of the so called targets I've seen have been really terrible throws by Hoyer and he is just not a big part of the gameplan it seems...I don't really think it will get better with Johnny either.

I'm starting Dwayne Allen over him.

 

[georg013]

From what I've seen of the Browns this year the issue is not Cameron, he's getting open for sure. Most of the so called targets I've seen have been really terrible throws by Hoyer and he is just not a big part of the gameplan it seems...I don't really think it will get better with Johnny either.

I'm starting Dwayne Allen over him.

I haven't had a chance to watch any film. All I see is 7 targets, 1 catch week in and week out. At some point, you figure, this guy has to reel some of them in. Is Hoyer really THAT bad? Now, I did see the touchdown overthrow last week as it unfolded. Frustrating is an understatement. My only options are Cameron and Ebron so really Cameron. Hoping this guy can give me SOMETHING. Again, hope he is gone next season.

 

[cstu]

From what I've seen of the Browns this year the issue is not Cameron, he's getting open for sure. Most of the so called targets I've seen have been really terrible throws by Hoyer and he is just not a big part of the gameplan it seems...I don't really think it will get better with Johnny either.

I'm starting Dwayne Allen over him.

I haven't had a chance to watch any film. All I see is 7 targets, 1 catch week in and week out. At some point, you figure, this guy has to reel some of them in. Is Hoyer really THAT bad? Now, I did see the touchdown overthrow last week as it unfolded. Frustrating is an understatement. My only options are Cameron and Ebron so really Cameron. Hoping this guy can give me SOMETHING. Again, hope he is gone next season.

Just watched it on Game Rewind and showed 6 targets. Of those only two of those were even near him (knocked down at the line, out of bounds, etc.) and the one that he didn't catch would have been an amazing grab.

 

[thecardiackid]

as much as i hate to say it (as a browns fan), i think i'm going to sit cameron for clay this week. da raiders is a decent matchup, but we just got embarrassed by JAX last week.

it's strange tho compared to last season w/ hoyer. i know we have a new OC, but damn...

 

[georg013]

From what I've seen of the Browns this year the issue is not Cameron, he's getting open for sure. Most of the so called targets I've seen have been really terrible throws by Hoyer and he is just not a big part of the gameplan it seems...I don't really think it will get better with Johnny either.

I'm starting Dwayne Allen over him.

I haven't had a chance to watch any film. All I see is 7 targets, 1 catch week in and week out. At some point, you figure, this guy has to reel some of them in. Is Hoyer really THAT bad? Now, I did see the touchdown overthrow last week as it unfolded. Frustrating is an understatement. My only options are Cameron and Ebron so really Cameron. Hoping this guy can give me SOMETHING. Again, hope he is gone next season.

Just watched it on Game Rewind and showed 6 targets. Of those only two of those were even near him (knocked down at the line, out of bounds, etc.) and the one that he didn't catch would have been an amazing grab.

Thanks.

 

[zamboni]

Supposedly the Seahawks were looking to trade Harvin for Cameron. Maybe Seattle makes a run at Jordan in the offseason - would be a nice landing spot.

 

[Fireinside]

Traded this guy to my team for a first rounder. After 3 catches a concussion.

Hoping after the concussion that he will return to his old form?

At least Browns were starting to swing the ball to him before his injury.

Jordan Cameron is done for the day in Week 8 with a concussion.

It's particularly concerning for Cameron's going-forward outlook because he has a history of concussions. He finished Sunday's game with three catches for 40 yards, and Cameron's availability for Week 9 against the Buccaneers is also very much in doubt. The Browns can't get back Josh Gordon soon enough.

 

[cvnpoka]

he had a bad drop today before the concussion. really baffling season, glad i dodged this guy in all but one league. thought he was a lock for 80 catches.

 

[lod01]

Supposedly the Seahawks were looking to trade Harvin for Cameron. Maybe Seattle makes a run at Jordan in the offseason - would be a nice landing spot.

Yeah, if you want to kill his career. ATL would be a nice landing spot as georg013 said. The Browns can't possibly franchise him and then have to pay him top 5 TE $ for the current returns. Put Manzier in there and it's even worse.

I'd had enough before this week and dumped him for Escobar who has an established QB for the next 3+ years.

 

[zamboni]

Supposedly the Seahawks were looking to trade Harvin for Cameron. Maybe Seattle makes a run at Jordan in the offseason - would be a nice landing spot.

Yeah, if you want to kill his career.

Not necessarily, if the Seahawks defense continues to slide and Wilson continues to throw the ball more than he has. But that's for next year.

This year, concussion or not, I don't see the arrow pointing anywhere but sideways or down for Cameron. You have Gordon coming back in a few weeks, and Hawkins has proven to be a solid possession guy. Cameron's targets went down quite a bit last year when Gordon emerged, and they're not that high now.

 

[Shutout]

This train is on the express to bustville, not just for now but overall (unless he leaves).

I want the Browns to do well. I see improvement. But they just do not have a team that can go out there and put up fantasy consistency at the TE spot. They are still too game dependent to where they are doing things based on what they can do versus having the opinion that they are going to go out and do their thing and just see if anyone can stop it.

And you know when Gordon gets back it is going to be all flash all the time.

 

[mr roboto]

Hoyer is ok. There's some doubt about Manziel's future to elevate an offense. Not really an inspiring situation for a talented TE in Cleveland right now.

 

[lod01]

Hoyer is ok. There's some doubt about Manziel's future to elevate an offense. Not really an inspiring situation for a talented TE in Cleveland right now.

Which makes you wonder if they pay him top 5 TE $ to be average at best with below average QB talent.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Cleveland suggests the addition of TE Ryan Taylor means Jordan Cameron (concussion) could be out more than one game.

The concussion Cameron sustained on Sunday is his third since the 2012 season. His first one caused him to miss two games and the one he sustained last year kept him out of one game. Of course, the more concussions a player suffers, the tougher it can be for him to get cleared. Cameron owners need to be making other plans right now.

Related: Ryan Taylor

Source: ESPN Cleveland

Oct 28 - 9:08 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordan Cameron's (concussion) status for the next two games is in doubt.

Cameron sustained his third concussion since 2012 in Sunday's win when he was drilled illegally by Raiders safety Brandian Ross. He's going to struggle to gain clearance for this week and then the Browns play the Thursday game in Week 10. "The league, as they should be, is very deliberate with the (concussion) protocol," said coach Mike Pettine Tuesday. Cameron owners need to be making other plans at the tight end position immediately.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

 

[lod01]

I don't see how the can franchise him now. They could easily let him walk. Hoyer was to blame for such a bad pass and the concussion.

 

[zamboni]

Just curious if anyone is dropping him, even in dynasty leagues.

Maybe he goes to greener pastures next year, but I have a feeling we've seen the best of him already.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Just curious if anyone is dropping him, even in dynasty leagues.

Maybe he goes to greener pastures next year, but I have a feeling we've seen the best of him already.

Maybe the Browns should have taken that Percy Harvin offer.

 

[mr roboto]

There is no way I am going to drop him in a dynasty format. He is too talented and has been too productive in the past to give up on it.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

May drop in redraft. This is getting old...

 

[iamkoza]

i still think he isnt dropable in redraft.... TE is so thin this year he still has the potential to be a top 10 TE when he is active... he was on his way to a decent game last week too.

 

[Shrek]

Dropped in redraft. As long as he is with Cleveland he is going to be too inconsistent to be start-worthy on anything more than a flex basis. Not feeling remorse about it, either, He's given me nothing all year. Parting with nothing feels fine.

 

[White Lightning]

Man, I got lucky. Last week, I traded him and Michael Floyd for Olsen in one league, and my offer of Harvin for Cameron was turned down in another league.

(Pre-emptive response: "Cool story Bro!")

 

[lod01]

Just curious if anyone is dropping him, even in dynasty leagues.

Maybe he goes to greener pastures next year, but I have a feeling we've seen the best of him already.

I dropped him in dynasty before last week. Of course, Graham is my #1 TE but Escobar was available and he's 2 years younger than Cameron, has Romo at QB and he doesn't have the concussion issues.

 

[OU#1]

Drafted him in the 3rd round in a 1.5 TE PPR league. Biggest bust of the year so far IMHO, and I'm a McCoy owner.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordan Cameron (concussion) did not practice Wednesday.

Cameron remains in the league's concussion protocol, and is extremely doubtful to play Week 9 against the Bucs. The Browns then play on Thursday night in Week 10, leaving Cameron's status for the next two games in jeopardy. His 2012 and 2013 seasons were both ended by concussions, and coach Mike Pettine expressed some concern Wednesday. We'd consider Cameron week-to-week. Jim Dray and Gary Barnidge will fill in at tight end.

Source: Scott Petrak on Twitter
Oct 29 - 12:59 PM