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47 People Shot - 9 Dead in Chicago (1 Viewer)
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Limp Ditka
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Chadstroma
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Well, of course not.flapgreen said:
Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.
Mr. Soup Nazi
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But yet they sent a one term Senator to the White House.Well, of course not.flapgreen said:
Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.
I call that success.
Chadstroma
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Not even a full term. And most of the not even full term was spent campaigning for President.But yet they sent a one term Senator to the White House.Well, of course not.flapgreen said:
Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.
I call that success.
tri-man 47
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The latest news is that Chicago will probably have to put through a very large increase in property taxes to cover a $450-550M budget gap due to payments to the police and fire pension funds.Well, of course not.flapgreen said:
Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.
Daley ###### this town up real good, and Rahm hasn't taken the strong moves to get fixes in place.
Chadstroma
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Everything Rahm tries to do is met with people having frothing at the mouth, seizure fits over. I give Rahm a lot of credit for trying to make the hard decisions but there is only so much that this crazy town will allow him to do since they are use to years and years of Richard "A deaf, dumb, blind monkey could have done a better job" Daley.The latest news is that Chicago will probably have to put through a very large increase in property taxes to cover a $450-550M budget gap due to payments to the police and fire pension funds.Well, of course not.flapgreen said:
Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.
Daley ###### this town up real good, and Rahm hasn't taken the strong moves to get fixes in place.
jonessed
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They city is so ####ed.The latest news is that Chicago will probably have to put through a very large increase in property taxes to cover a $450-550M budget gap due to payments to the police and fire pension funds.Well, of course not.Chicago (Cook County) will have the highest sales tax in the nation. Illinois is 2nd highest state for property taxes (trailing only New Jersey) and income taxes are not 'low' though mercifully not in the top part of the nation... though they keep trying to increase it. AND Chicago, Cook County and Illinois are STILL broke.flapgreen said:
Daley ###### this town up real good, and Rahm hasn't taken the strong moves to get fixes in place.
Chemical X
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47 groanin'
RBM
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Man it's amazing but you prove to be a bigger dummy every time you post. Consider a break maybe. You just suck at everything.
I loved Lovie. I am rooting for Tampa to be good because of him.
Limp Ditka
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-child-fatally-shot-briefing-met-20151105-story.html
9 year old son of gang member lured into alley and executed in the middle of the afternoon
Think things were bad before?
Just wait
#thanksposty
9 year old son of gang member lured into alley and executed in the middle of the afternoon
Think things were bad before?
Just wait
#thanksposty
Hawks64
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Limp Ditka
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But he's 'easy to find'But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
Hawks64
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Well apparently sending the message via his son was easier. Just sickening.But he's 'easy to find'But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
avoiding injuries
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You guys are just like the police. Quit worrying bout him and worry bout the killer.
tri-man 47
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The 9 year old's dad is ...25 years old. Just sayin'.But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
Hawks64
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Lot of sarcasm there. I am not sure what the tipping point will be but I doubt we will see anyone speak up about anything in these gang neighborhoods. It's incredibly sad for those that live there and the solution is very complicated.The 9 year old's dad is ...25 years old. Just sayin'.But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
Chaka
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I am sure if he was killed by a pitbull more people in here would be screaming from the rooftops to find the killer and put him/her down.Lot of sarcasm there. I am not sure what the tipping point will be but I doubt we will see anyone speak up about anything in these gang neighborhoods. It's incredibly sad for those that live there and the solution is very complicated.The 9 year old's dad is ...25 years old. Just sayin'.But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
Hawks64
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I couldn't care less about the FFA, the violence in Chicago neighborhoods where gangs live is getting worse. No one has a solution or a way to combat it. No one will speak up. Kids are being killed almost daily in the crossfire and now one was lured and executed as a way to get to his father. Still nothing. 35k reward and nothing.I am sure if he was killed by a pitbull more people in here would be screaming from the rooftops to find the killer and put him/her down.Lot of sarcasm there. I am not sure what the tipping point will be but I doubt we will see anyone speak up about anything in these gang neighborhoods. It's incredibly sad for those that live there and the solution is very complicated.The 9 year old's dad is ...25 years old. Just sayin'.But his Dad says he has no ties to gangs. How can that be possible then
Doctor Detroit
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Limp Ditka
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No chance of getting flap, and now stuck with you?I'm hoping to move there within the next 3 years.
We're ####ed
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Yeah but my job would involve cleaning up the gang problem, so I'm a net gain for the city.No chance of getting flap, and now stuck with you?I'm hoping to move there within the next 3 years.
We're ####ed
Won't make me hate the Sux, Suxhawks, or Suckbears any less though. Sorry.
Limp Ditka
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But you'll still love beer and fat broads just the same, right?Yeah but my job would involve cleaning up the gang problem, so I'm a net gain for the city. Won't make me hate the Sux, Suxhawks, or Suckbears any less though. Sorry.No chance of getting flap, and now stuck with you?I'm hoping to move there within the next 3 years.
We're ####ed
Limp Ditka
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Limp Ditka
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Almost too insane. Getting the stop sign in there like that makes it seem staged / message oriented , but stranger things have happened
The Big Guy
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jonessed
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Buddy Ball 2K3
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Can we please outlaw guns in freaking Chicago!
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E Street Brat
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ATC1
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Can't we just make Chicago a purge city. Move there if you want to live a life of crime, then the rest of the US will see a drop.
Limp Ditka
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55 shot over father's day weekend, 13 fatally.
Not 1/2 way through 2016 and the year totals are about 1800 shot, 306 dead.
Not 1/2 way through 2016 and the year totals are about 1800 shot, 306 dead.
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Limp Ditka
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'Hood tallies.
Over the course of the year, the Harrison District on the city's West Side has tallied more homicides than any other district in the city, with 37. The Englewood disrict on the South Side had 36. The Austin District on the West Side, the Gresham District on the South Side and the Deering District on the South and Southwest sides each tallied 24.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-12-dead-at-least-41-hurt-in-weekend-shootings-20160620-story.html
Englewood and Harrison in a....wait for it... shoot out for top honors this year.
Over the course of the year, the Harrison District on the city's West Side has tallied more homicides than any other district in the city, with 37. The Englewood disrict on the South Side had 36. The Austin District on the West Side, the Gresham District on the South Side and the Deering District on the South and Southwest sides each tallied 24.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-12-dead-at-least-41-hurt-in-weekend-shootings-20160620-story.html
Englewood and Harrison in a....wait for it... shoot out for top honors this year.
Andy Dufresne
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mr. furley
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2016 Race of Victim/Assailant
Race Victim Assailant
Black 218 39
Hispanic 56 15
White/Other 15 1
Police - 4
So much fear about "Islamic terrorists" but we have murderers running around Chicago and everyone just
read recently the clearance rate for murders is something like 20%
:confetti:
Dignan_
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Fear about Muslim terrorists? What world do you live in?2016 Race of Victim/Assailant
Race Victim Assailant
Black 218 39
Hispanic 56 15
White/Other 15 1
Police - 4
So much fear about "Islamic terrorists" but we have murderers running around Chicago and everyone just
Orlando was the result of homophobic white males and weak gun laws.
San Bernardino was the result of oppressive Christians and workplace violence.
Ft Hood was the result of PTSD and bad cafeteria food.
9/11 was the result of greedy oil execs and pilots with poor eyesight.
If only we could get rid of assault rifles all of these poor blacks in Chicago would still be alive today.
flapgreen
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Best article I've read on what's happening in Chicago.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/chicago-brink-14605.html
http://www.city-journal.org/html/chicago-brink-14605.html
flapgreen
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I don't currently own any guns, but if I lived in Chicago, I would have an arsenal.
jabarony
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I got as far as Felicia in the Polish sausage joint. I'm channeling the Super Fans, right now...
Doctor Detroit
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Good article, thanks for the link.
I spent time last year on Chicago's south and west sides and it is a caldron of gangs and crime. It's not confined to Chicago proper either, recently there have been a lot of anti-gang operations in Calumet City, and in Gary, Hammond, and Michigan City Indiana. Chicago gang activity can be found in Joliet, Des Moines, Racine, and even as far away as North Dakota.
This crime wave isn't unprecedented, Chicago and many other cities had worse crime in the 70s and Chicago had almost 1k murders in 1994. But with the advent of DNA technology, cameras virtually everywhere, and a better understanding of gang culture, crime rates have fallen exponentially pretty much everywhere. So when we see Chicago on pace for 700 murders, and knowing that the majority of those murders will go unsolved, it's definitely a reality check.
I won't get too deep into this but my city was ruined by outrageous crime rates and I do not want the same to happen to Chicago. The no snitch policy ruins neighborhoods because it not only applies to major crimes like homicide and rape, but also to aggravated assaults and home invasions. Frankly people can deal with a homicide of a gang member in their neighborhood, but a home invasion is an intimate crime that creates a divide that can never be bridged. You might not want to move if some ####### Blood gets killed, but you are crazy to not wanna move if someone comes into your house and points a gun at you and walks out with your valuables.
I think the worst part of black culture, which I grew up in, is the resistance to not only to police but to justice itself. You can know neighbors for years and they wouldn't call the cops if someone was robbing your house while you were at work, and wouldn't tell you, their neighbor and friend, even if they knew. I understand the skepticism for police, it is something that really can be explained by centuries of unfair treatment in America. But the mindset to not protect your neighbors, to ignore the things that make your life miserable because of a learned distrust of authority, is scary.
It's extremely hard in 2016 to be a member of law enforcement, it's even harder when those you are serving have no real use for you. They complain you aren't doing enough, then when something happens and there are 40 witnesses, no one saw a thing. And from reading this article, even though police corruption and bad arrests happen in Chicago, it happens less there than in most places in the U.S.
And then you have what happened in Baton Rouge today, and it sets us back even further.
Limp Ditka
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Hawks64
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I really don't think it will get any better as the violence seems to be spreading outside of a few neighborhoods. Last night a pregnant 23 year old woman and her 27 year old boyfriend were shot in what is suspected a retaliatory shooting after the woman was very vocal the day before about a 19 year old that was shot that she knew.
Limp Ditka
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Chicago should bust 750 by the time the clock strikes midnight tomorrow.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016-chicago-murders
Common theme is the stories seems to be either 'was a known gang member' or 'no one is in custody'.
Or maybe the total is closing in on 800
Obama in action during the year -->
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016-chicago-murders
Common theme is the stories seems to be either 'was a known gang member' or 'no one is in custody'.
Or maybe the total is closing in on 800
Obama in action during the year -->
