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Gaskins is awful, he could barely run against 4th stringers during preseason action. I think they have to sign someone, maybe Pierre Thomas?

 
Their RBs don't deserve a thread. When they have a talented bell cow like Hyde he struggles to get things going in that disaster of an offense. A RBBC made up of mediocre talents playing in the worst offense in football, AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!

 
Pierre Thomas signing soon?
pretty sure Thomas wants more then vet min or he would have signed with Houston, why would 9ers invest that much? there season is toast
They need to at least pretend they are trying.

I think PT realises he can cut a check here for 5 or 6 weeks minimum or he can sit at home can count to 0. I think he signs on Monday.

 
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Shaun Draughn signed
Wow, FA barrel must literally be dry. Is there really no one more attractive than a guy who has literally done nothing -- as a third or fourth stringer, let alone a starter?
STC - these folks are trained professionals who know exactly what they are doing. They're smarter about football than anyone posting on this FF board.

Maybe he's awesome on ST?

:shrug:

This is his 8th team; probably not awesome at anything besides catching connecting flights.

 
Pierre Thomas signing soon?
pretty sure Thomas wants more then vet min or he would have signed with Houston, why would 9ers invest that much? there season is toast
Pretty sure Thomas anticipated a bit more interest going forward. The guy is still sitting ho9me unwanted. That tends to change your perspective a little. I bet he'd sign now for the minimum as an audition for free agency.

 
It is interesting to see teams around the NFL routinely throw a million or so to this guy and that guy (an old receiver, a D-lineman, etc) and they don't stick and the teams don't bat an eye. Or some journeyman QB who obviously can do almost nothing for you (Vick) keeps getting chance after chance after chance.

Then, with Rbs, you see these Droughns and retread guys that just bounce and bounce and bounce..guys that are injured more often than not. Yet, guys like Pierre Thomas, RAY RICE, etc sit home while things named Alfred Blue and Orleans and Tim Hightower (yes, THAT TIm Hightower) keep sticking.

I swear, at this point, I think the Niners signing Beanie Wells is all but imminent.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
I think it's pretty clear by now that 32 owners and a commissioner agreed at some point that Rice was never again to play in the NFL. Coaches and GMs at times have expressed interest and then fell silent, and it has to be because the message was to put a lid on it. Rice is done and we may as well stop bringing him up.

As for the 49ers and the RBs, hey, Dumb and Dumber aka Jed York and Tent Baalke were so sure they were so smart and that they were the reasons SF was a winner -- not Harbaugh -- and sent him packing because they couldn't handle the fact that Harbs had independent thought, wouldn't kiss their butts, and now they are getting what they deserve. Harbs is off to the next place, immediately turning a loser into a winner, and Dumb and Dumber can't get out of their own way. It tickles me to no end to see those two jerks failing this year.

 
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Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Let's not pretend Rice's performance wasn't already slipping a great deal before he beat his girl. If this was 2011, someone would have grabbed him for sure. Teams weigh out the public relations nightmares they may face when bringing in low character guys. If they're still an all-pro level player, they think it's worth it. When they are average or slightly above, they often would rather not deal with the circus that comes with it.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
I think it's pretty clear by now that 32 owners and a commissioner agreed at some point that Rice was never again to play in the NFL. Coaches and GMs at times have expressed interest and then fell silent, and it has to be because the message was to put a lid on it. Rice is done and we may as well stop bringing him up.

As for the 49ers and the RBs, hey, Dumb and Dumber aka Jed York and Tent Baalke were so sure they were so smart and that they were the reasons SF was a winner -- not Harbaugh -- and sent him packing because they couldn't handle the fact that Harbs had independent thought, wouldn't kiss their butts, and now they are getting what they deserve. Harbs is off to the next place, immediately turning a loser into a winner, and Dumb and Dumber can't get out of their own way. It tickles me to no end to see those two jerks failing this year.
Not a chance this is true. Jerry Jones would sign Charles Manson if he thought he could throw a pass, catch a ball, or sack the quarterback.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Let's not pretend Rice's performance wasn't already slipping a great deal before he beat his girl. If this was 2011, someone would have grabbed him for sure. Teams weigh out the public relations nightmares they may face when bringing in low character guys. If they're still an all-pro level player, they think it's worth it. When they are average or slightly above, they often would rather not deal with the circus that comes with it.
His injuries were the reson he underperformed that year. RBs don't suddenly lose it at 27.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
I think it's pretty clear by now that 32 owners and a commissioner agreed at some point that Rice was never again to play in the NFL. Coaches and GMs at times have expressed interest and then fell silent, and it has to be because the message was to put a lid on it. Rice is done and we may as well stop bringing him up.

As for the 49ers and the RBs, hey, Dumb and Dumber aka Jed York and Tent Baalke were so sure they were so smart and that they were the reasons SF was a winner -- not Harbaugh -- and sent him packing because they couldn't handle the fact that Harbs had independent thought, wouldn't kiss their butts, and now they are getting what they deserve. Harbs is off to the next place, immediately turning a loser into a winner, and Dumb and Dumber can't get out of their own way. It tickles me to no end to see those two jerks failing this year.
Not a chance this is true. Jerry Jones would sign Charles Manson if he thought he could throw a pass, catch a ball, or sack the quarterback.
I disagree. Once the elevator footage came out, Rice was done. Fans (especially women) didn't see other players' transgressions, but they saw Rice with their own eyes. That's the difference.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Let's not pretend Rice's performance wasn't already slipping a great deal before he beat his girl. If this was 2011, someone would have grabbed him for sure. Teams weigh out the public relations nightmares they may face when bringing in low character guys. If they're still an all-pro level player, they think it's worth it. When they are average or slightly above, they often would rather not deal with the circus that comes with it.
His injuries were the reson he underperformed that year. RBs don't suddenly lose it at 27.
If he still 'had it', he'd be a Cowboy. Jerry Jones calls his other woman beater (Hardy) a leader whose passion is a great thing. They love the guy. With Dallas' backfield problems this year, they would love to find a solid back to replace Murray's production from last year.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Let's not pretend Rice's performance wasn't already slipping a great deal before he beat his girl. If this was 2011, someone would have grabbed him for sure. Teams weigh out the public relations nightmares they may face when bringing in low character guys. If they're still an all-pro level player, they think it's worth it. When they are average or slightly above, they often would rather not deal with the circus that comes with it.
His injuries were the reson he underperformed that year. RBs don't suddenly lose it at 27.
If he still 'had it', he'd be a Cowboy. Jerry Jones calls his other woman beater (Hardy) a leader whose passion is a great thing. They love the guy. With Dallas' backfield problems this year, they would love to find a solid back to replace Murray's production from last year.
Reports in Charlotte on what Hardy actually did were just as bad if not worse than Rice... Neighbors reportedly heard Hardy throwing his girlfriend around his apartment, and the police report later said he threw her on the bed covered with assault rifles and claimed he'd kill her.

Ray Rice did a despicable thing, no doubt. Greg Hardy is arguably an even bigger piece of ####.

 
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Let's not pretend Rice's performance wasn't already slipping a great deal before he beat his girl. If this was 2011, someone would have grabbed him for sure. Teams weigh out the public relations nightmares they may face when bringing in low character guys. If they're still an all-pro level player, they think it's worth it. When they are average or slightly above, they often would rather not deal with the circus that comes with it.
His injuries were the reson he underperformed that year. RBs don't suddenly lose it at 27.
If he still 'had it', he'd be a Cowboy. Jerry Jones calls his other woman beater (Hardy) a leader whose passion is a great thing. They love the guy. With Dallas' backfield problems this year, they would love to find a solid back to replace Murray's production from last year.
Reports in Charlotte on what Hardy actually did were just as bad if not worse than Rice... Neighbors reportedly heard Hardy throwing his girlfriend around his apartment, and the police report later said he threw her on the bed covered with assault rifles and claimed he'd kill her.

Ray Rice did a despicable thing, no doubt. Greg Hardy is arguably an even bigger piece of ####.
I think we all saw the real Greg Hardy two weeks ago on the Dallas sideline. If I had .0001% doubt about whether or not he beat his woman, that was gone at that point. He has serious mental issues.

 
Getting back to the Niners RBs, I think a pass catching back may have some value here. With Gabbert at QB and Davis out of town, have to expect a lot of blowouts and check downs to the RB.

 
Getting back to the Niners RBs, I think a pass catching back may have some value here. With Gabbert at QB and Davis out of town, have to expect a lot of blowouts and check downs to the RB.
And a lot of laydowns by Gabbert. He hits the deck twice as fast as anyone ever has at the slightest sign of pressure.

 
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Volume should work in Pierre's favor... I don't expect the 49ers to push the ball down the field to those WRs at all (heck Boldin could be dealt), and they're going to be in comeback mode a LOT.

 
Volume should work in Pierre's favor... I don't expect the 49ers to push the ball down the field to those WRs at all (heck Boldin could be dealt), and they're going to be in comeback mode a LOT.
Guess it's worth asking if Pierre still has any juice left... he's no spring chicken, and he's been on the streets for 2 months.

 
Answering my own question - maybe PT does have some juice left. Last year he averaged 4.9 YPC for the Saints, and caught 45 passes in 11 games at a 8.4 ypr clip. The YPC was his highest since 2011, the YPR his highest since 2012.

He's turning 31 in December.

 
Love Pierre, what a warrior, but I don't think he's going to work as a runner outside the Saints system. I do think it might help that Gabbert will have someone to dump off to and throw the screen to, he excels at that.

 
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I might like PT better than Langford as far a WW priority
I can't say that it's not possible that Thomas ends up producing better but it seems extremely unlikely. I don't see a 31 (30?) year old RB coming in cold off the street Week 9 and making a significant impact any time soon. Langford has played well in limited duty thus far and was a productive college runner who had the best 40 time out of all RBs at the combine. I guess Forte could be back in a week or two thus limiting Langford's impact beyond a week or two but I can't see him not being a better option than Thomas during that time.

 
shadyridr said:
I might like PT better than Langford as far a WW priority
I wouldn't go this far but I suppose PT could have similar value to what we thought Bush could hold. Bush was oddly not involved at all before the injury however, it was the Mike Davis show (he even caught two balls for 14 yards). I'm super hesitant to roster a single player from SF.

 
Love Pierre, what a warrior, but I don't think he's going to work as a runner outside the Saints system. I do think it might help that Gabbert will have someone to dump off to and throw the screen to, he excels at that.
Boldin has to be pissed right now. The team is falling apart, VD has been traded, meanwhile he's still there among a bunch of losers.

 
Love Pierre, what a warrior, but I don't think he's going to work as a runner outside the Saints system. I do think it might help that Gabbert will have someone to dump off to and throw the screen to, he excels at that.
Boldin has to be pissed right now. The team is falling apart, VD has been traded, meanwhile he's still there among a bunch of losers.
Too bad Balt is in the crapper right now too or a reunion there would make a ton of sense.

 
Love Pierre, what a warrior, but I don't think he's going to work as a runner outside the Saints system. I do think it might help that Gabbert will have someone to dump off to and throw the screen to, he excels at that.
Boldin has to be pissed right now. The team is falling apart, VD has been traded, meanwhile he's still there among a bunch of losers.
Too bad Balt is in the crapper right now too or a reunion there would make a ton of sense.
I would love to see Boldin go to CAR. They could really use a solid possession receiver right now.

 
Shutout said:
Ray Rice is available. Oh, wait...
It is criminal the way this guy is getting black balled. You can't tell me that of all these no name guys being added to teams that Ray Rice isn't capable of being better than most of them. The people pointing to his last year and saying "he's done" might be right but I know that any other player with his proven pedigree, in any other scenario, gets the benefit of proving it. It's not like almost every RB ever played hasn't had a bad year or one marred by injury.

If Hakeem Nicks and Ben Tate and guys like that are getting calls, Ray Rice should be employed somewhere.
Interesting choice of words. :devil:

 
shadyridr said:
I might like PT better than Langford as far a WW priority
quite possibly. i mean i yoloed bush this week so he might have some use to someone, especially in ppr and especially if the niners switch to that qb that can see wide open targets. i'm not seeing how langford, who's relatively unproven, can jump into a dumpster fire and produce. sure, pierre's jumping into a dumpster fire as well but at least we know what he can do

 
I'm super hesitant to roster a single player from SF.
Agreed. Very little redeeming FF value on that team ROS.

I just picked up Pierre though and may plug him in over Spiller once I hear any updates on how things go in practice this week. Need to cover multiple byes this week and also somewhat of a block move as they are teams in my league who may have to consider starting guys like Tolbert and Pead this week.

 
shadyridr said:
I might like PT better than Langford as far a WW priority
Langford will be the unquestioned starter and lead back for at least a few weeks. He's no Forte, but you gotta jump on that, imo.

I love me some PT but it'll probably take a few weeks for him to learn the offense and be FF relevant. Plus, the offense sucks. Plus, Gabbert. Plus, what the heck is Carlos Hyde doing...is he going to play on that stress fracture and hope he makes it through the season to have offseason surgery?

 
shadyridr said:
I might like PT better than Langford as far a WW priority
Langford will be the unquestioned starter and lead back for at least a few weeks. He's no Forte, but you gotta jump on that, imo.

I love me some PT but it'll probably take a few weeks for him to learn the offense and be FF relevant. Plus, the offense sucks. Plus, Gabbert. Plus, what the heck is Carlos Hyde doing...is he going to play on that stress fracture and hope he makes it through the season to have offseason surgery?
Langford is the better play.

Ideally, the Niners would bring PT along slowly, ala Ahmad Bradshaw with the Colts. However, they do not have the luxury of a Frank Gore ahead of him, so we could see Pierre Thomas grab a larger role pretty quickly. Even that does not excite me much in what has proven to be an inept offense (and a switch to Gabbert does nothing to remedy that). PT could have some value based on reps, however, especially in PPR, if his conditioning will allow it.

 
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In ppr leagues I could see PT having some pretty respectable value. Team is terrible and they'll get blown out often. Gabbert isn't going to chuck it deep because that's not his style and the o-line won't give him time. We're going to get short dump off passes for minimal yards. But hey, that's still points. Could see him getting 3-5 catches a game. 8-13 ppg game isn't going to win you a championship but it's not going to be the reason you lose one, either. Only real question here is if he's kept himself in good shape.

 

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