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"Draft and go"?You mean "best ball"?
I think you need to plug into a VBD chart to get a sense of relative values. Just from my experience in a similar league, I'll say that WRs essentially have no value compared to QBs, RBs and TEs. Top QBs are very valuable in this kind of league, and you can expect every single starting QB in the NFL to be on a roster, so don't snooze on backup QBs. The 1.5 pt/rec for TEs is a HUGE difference maker, and a player like Antonio Gates is probably a first-rounder in this type of league.
I hate 8 team leagues. Luck is huge as every team can't help but have an all star squad. The only thing I'd suggest for this league is make sure you get Gates, period. He has to be stupid high on the VBD sheets for this scoring format. TE's are the only ones getting points per catch, AND it's 1.5 pts per catch? If I had any pick outside of the 3rd or 4th, I'd have to take Gates, period. What's the worst that happens? Oh no, 8 more players are drafted before you draft again, BFD. Get Gates.
The set up seems to be an attempt to minimize the normal luck factor with the larger amount of starters. It will not play like a classic 8 team league as the owners who are best at identifying 3rd & 4th tier players (especially @ RB & TE) will actually hold a strong advantage over the others because those players will show in weekly line-ups. Though he mentioned 1.5 for TEs, I have not seen a league where other position don't at least get .5 PPR. Thinking he just did not mention versus the league having points only for the TE. Still a strong advantage for that position.
From his description I have to be in the same league. 64 teams, 8 divisions, and the top 2 teams from each division advance to the playoffs.RB and WR do get reception pts... .5 and 1 respectively. Also once the rosters are set there are no trades and no waivers and no lineup submission (Draft Masters style). Never been in a league like this but seems interesting.
I disagree with this assertion that, generally, smaller leagues make luck a much bigger deal. Now, if you have a small league and very few starters, absolutely, luck begins playing a much larger factor. However, if you're in a 16 teamer, luck plays just as much of a role. If your top two picks go down to injury, your season is sunk. Personally, a small league with a lot of starting players and huge rosters would actually be the best way to minimize luck that I could think about, since it would spread the injuries around a lot more and make sure that everyone has enough depth to cover the losses. At that point, it becomes more about projections and less about attrition.In the most extreme example, if you created a 2-team league that started 16 QBs, 24 RBs, 32 WRs, and 16 TEs each, then I think that would be the league with the lowest luck-factor possible. One stud can no longer carry your team, one injury can no longer sink your team, and suddenly it becomes all about whose projections were best.
Well said. The "luck" I talk about is in the drafting. After reading GregR's post I see now where this league takes the draft "luck" factor way down to basically a normal draft. Yes I see where RB's are just as if not more valuable in this type of set-up and WR's appear to be much less of a value.I still contend in the average 8 team league start 1QB 2 RB 3WR 1 PK 1 D, drafting/projection skills become less of a factor. If anything drafting well can create the analysis paralysis. Deciding between which 3 of 5 top 25 WR's you have and which 2 of 4 top 20 RB's you have to start every week leads to the analysis paralysis and creates more of a "luck" factor in my book. When the poor drafter or even average owner has a limited number of stars, compared to a more experienced owners team would/should, it can actually work out quite well for the lesser skilled drafter/owner IMO.Our league was eight teams up until last year. my take-aways: draft is less important than larger league and watching the wire is more important. and because everyone has strong rosters - i guess luck is a bigger factor - but playing match-ups is also a much bigger deal. i had to spend much more time on roster management for that league than any larger one I played in. It can be quite nerve-wracking. often leading to analysyis paralysis.
I don't disagree with Jeff's whole post but wanted to point something out. Be careful, be very careful. You will find that every team is loaded. Don't jump up in drafts too much or take much risk, try to trade after. You will be surprised how loaded teams are. I feel like I can guarantee this to someone that hasn't run in an 8 team league.Don't map out positions ahead of time, take who comes to you.
SSOG, I love your posts, but I disagree with this assessement. Here is why:Consistency is very difficult to predict. Even if you hit your projections accurately, they could be the result of four or five big performances, five or six mediocre ones and five or six substandard games. Luck is when your WR catches a pass at the 1/2 yard line and his QB sneaks in for the six points, so you lose.
I never said you could eliminate the luck factor, just that it would give the lowest luck factor imagineable. And it WOULD. Obviously, if two teams were exactly perfectly even in every regard, then every single game would be decided by luck. However, if one fantasy football player is inherently better than another FF player, then over the long run, that difference will win out and his squad will be better.Let's put this in the most extreme example possible. Let's say that you and I play a league where we start one player. You draft Johnson, and I draft Tomlinson. I would call this the league with the HIGHEST "luck factor". One injury anywhere on the Chiefs or Chargers would destroy someone's season. Random fluctuations would destroy someone's season. A huge game with a bunch of good games compared to a season of great games could destroy someone's season. It's a game of chance at that point.
Man, have you stayed up with another buddy after a live draft, drunk tired from poker but still too juiced up to sleep at 3 AM then drafted a team for a 2 team league before? Just wondering, I thought I was one of the few that addicted.Seriously, I have done that, and next time I do (probably this year). I'm going to try the line-up requirements you just posted, or at least something along those lines. Why not, it's for fun, (we do put $20 on it though) why not try it once?
exactly what he said. when you all have a top 8 qb top 8 WR, top 8 RB, there is a lot of luck. there is no advantage to grabbing sleeper players because your roster is not big enough to hold them. and who is gonna grab a no name sleeper WR over Burelson or D bennet. heck after the 10th round is over, guys like burelson, plummer, reggie brown are still available. the league does not lend much to skill and staying on top of who is hurt. if one of your guys goes down you can just pick up his back up cause the other teams are not gonna drop a starting RB to pick up a guy that may or may not play a game or two.
Haha, I've never fielded a 2-team league, but I *have* fielded a 12 team league where all teams were run by only 2 players. It was survivor, best-ball, and we drafted 6 teams each. I wouldn't recommend it. It didn't help that I wasn't in the best frame of mind for drafting, but I had a really hard time keeping all my teams straight, even with the Draft Dominator, and so some of my teams wound up a little too stacked at certain positions and a little too thin at others. On the other hand, it let me try out all sorts of fun strategies. For instance, I had a team draft 2 of the top 3 TEs in a start-1 TE league with the best ball format, on the idea that no matter what happened I was virtually guaranteed to outproduce all other teams by 3-4 points at that position on a weekly basis.If you want, I'll do a mock draft with you for a 2-team league with those starting requirements. PM me if you're interested. I wonder if we can set something like that up in Yahoo (somehow I doubt it).
