A Boy named Suh...#1 pick in 2010? (1 Viewer)

[Black]

I don't watch a ton of College ball, but have never seen such a dominant player as Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh.

With him, all Nebraska needed was a 4 man rush (1 man, really) the whole game, and sat 7 guys back. He single-handedly disrupted the normally high-flying UT offense. He would just wait patiently for the play to unfold, then throw the offensive lineman out of the way, swat away any RBs in the way and crush the play.

On one play, he THREW Colt McCoy about 7 yards sliding to the ground like a ragdoll...with ONE arm.

Is this guy the #1 pick in 2010?

Just in case you aren't up on your Johnny Cash:

 

[The Jacket]

Cleveland will pass, so no, but Tampa or Detroit will quickly scoop him up without doubt.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Yep, he's destined to be a Brown! Be interesting if it's an un-capped year to see what the Snyders and Jones's would give up to trade up. Has SUH played this well his entire career, I don't watch much college ball outside of the games of the week type stuff anymore, or at least at a dominant level all year? With his "this week" hype, hope he's not this year's Gallery, Mandrich (i know that's not how u spell it), Bosworth, etc

 

[kevzilla]

He's the real deal. Any team that passes on him will regret it later.

I've seen a lineman grab a guy and go bowling for quarterbacks before. Name was Reggie White.

 

[Billy Costigan Jr]

Yep, he's destined to be a Brown! Be interesting if it's an un-capped year to see what the Snyders and Jones's would give up to trade up. Has SUH played this well his entire career, I don't watch much college ball outside of the games of the week type stuff anymore, or at least at a dominant level all year? With his "this week" hype, hope he's not this year's Gallery, Mandrich (i know that's not how u spell it), Bosworth, etc

Would this be with Rogers and Suh on the D-Line together like the Williamses in Minnesota?

 

[Ditka is God]

First time I'd seen Nebraska play this year ... what a stud.

 

[Foosball God]

Cleveland will pass, so no, but Tampa or Detroit will quickly scoop him up without doubt.

I pray that he would fall to Detroit. He is the type of player a team might trade up for.

 

[FantasyTrader]

He's no-brainer #1. Unstoppable force.

 

[sho nuff]

Cleveland will pass, so no, but Tampa or Detroit will quickly scoop him up without doubt.

I pray that he would fall to Detroit. He is the type of player a team might trade up for.

As a Packer fan...I hope they don't end up with him.Bad enough we got that crazy mullet wearing redneck in Minny trying to kill our QB...we don't need King Kong in Detroit wanting the same.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Rated as No 1 Overall with some scouting info

 

[MCguidance]

I don't watch a ton of College ball, but have never seen such a dominant player as Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh.

With him, all Nebraska needed was a 4 man rush (1 man, really) the whole game, and sat 7 guys back. He single-handedly disrupted the normally high-flying UT offense. He would just wait patiently for the play to unfold, then throw the offensive lineman out of the way, swat away any RBs in the way and crush the play.

On one play, he THREW Colt McCoy about 7 yards sliding to the ground like a ragdoll...with ONE arm.

Is this guy the #1 pick in 2010?

Just in case you aren't up on your Johnny Cash:

He's the best DL at Nebraska since Rich Glover.

 

[treat88]

No clue if he'll end up the #1 pick or not.

That said, he is easily the most talented player, regardless of position, in this class.

 

[Zigg]

Dan Wilkenson was the best college player I ever saw. I was young, but I remember him being in the backfield what seemed like every play. Never would guess he wouldn't be a dominant pro, so nothing is certain.

 

[Grahamburn]

If Freeman keeps throwing 5 interceptions a game he should be a Buc in no time.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Top Ranked College Players (not listed in order, although I don't think it's too far off)

(S) Eric Berry - Tenn.

(DT) Ndamukong Suh - Neb (said to be head-and-shoulders above any other DTs in the draft)

(OT) Russell Okong - Okl St.

(QB) Jake Locker - Wash.

(DT) Gerald McCoy - Okl

(DT) Terrance Cody - Ala

(WR) Dez Bryant - Okl St.

(LB) Brandon Spikes - Fla

and a lot of mocks have QB Clausen of ND going early, either to the Rams or Browns.

With the Browns in the early running for the top pick, the choice is Suh. Maybe drop a few spots if an offer is there and they think they can get Okong. While they certainly need a QB, if you're the Browns you need to go with a more sure thing IMO. IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

 

[strong]

Top Ranked College Players (not listed in order, although I don't think it's too far off)(S) Eric Berry - Tenn.(DT) Ndamukong Suh - Neb (said to be head-and-shoulders above any other DTs in the draft)(OT) Russell Okong - Okl St.(QB) Jake Locker - Wash.(DT) Gerald McCoy - Okl(DT) Terrance Cody - Ala(WR) Dez Bryant - Okl St.(LB) Brandon Spikes - Flaand a lot of mocks have QB Clausen of ND going early, either to the Rams or Browns.With the Browns in the early running for the top pick, the choice is Suh. Maybe drop a few spots if an offer is there and they think they can get Okong. While they certainly need a QB, if you're the Browns you need to go with a more sure thing IMO. IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

well, it's not too far off... butsuhberryeveryone elseis probably a bit more accurate.i've watched a lot of college football, and i made it a point to watch every husker game this year because of suh. i've never done that for a college player before. outside of a couple quiet games, he single handedly dominated more than any player on either side of the ball this year.

 

[gump]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.

Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

 

[Abrantes]

Top Ranked College Players (not listed in order, although I don't think it's too far off)

(S) Eric Berry - Tenn.

(DT) Ndamukong Suh - Neb (said to be head-and-shoulders above any other DTs in the draft)

(OT) Russell Okong - Okl St.

(QB) Jake Locker - Wash.

(DT) Gerald McCoy - Okl

(DT) Terrance Cody - Ala

(WR) Dez Bryant - Okl St.

(LB) Brandon Spikes - Fla

and a lot of mocks have QB Clausen of ND going early, either to the Rams or Browns.

With the Browns in the early running for the top pick, the choice is Suh. Maybe drop a few spots if an offer is there and they think they can get Okong. While they certainly need a QB, if you're the Browns you need to go with a more sure thing IMO. IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

Fingers crossed, man. Just hope he doesn't get picked before the Rams (if they don't end up with the #1 overall ).

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

I agree with you. I don't see the Rams or Bucs not taking SUH. For Cleveland it should be a no brainer but I who knows what's going to happen in the front office between the end of the season and the draft. Seems like they may fall into the mistaken idea that they must take a QB in the first round.

 

[Drew RosenhausFan]

Depends who his agent is.

 

[gump]

Top Ranked College Players (not listed in order, although I don't think it's too far off)(S) Eric Berry - Tenn.(DT) Ndamukong Suh - Neb (said to be head-and-shoulders above any other DTs in the draft)(OT) Russell Okong - Okl St.(QB) Jake Locker - Wash.(DT) Gerald McCoy - Okl(DT) Terrance Cody - Ala(WR) Dez Bryant - Okl St.(LB) Brandon Spikes - Flaand a lot of mocks have QB Clausen of ND going early, either to the Rams or Browns.With the Browns in the early running for the top pick, the choice is Suh. Maybe drop a few spots if an offer is there and they think they can get Okong. While they certainly need a QB, if you're the Browns you need to go with a more sure thing IMO. IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

I'd like to hear from a draft guru where Rolando McClain ranks these days. I think Kiper now has him as his #1 LB.

 

[lyon812]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

I agree with you. I don't see the Rams or Bucs not taking SUH. For Cleveland it should be a no brainer but I who knows what's going to happen in the front office between the end of the season and the draft. Seems like they may fall into the mistaken idea that they must take a QB in the first round.

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available). If the Browns, Bucs, and Rams all tie at 1-15, who owns the first pick?

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.

Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

I agree with you. I don't see the Rams or Bucs not taking SUH. For Cleveland it should be a no brainer but I who knows what's going to happen in the front office between the end of the season and the draft. Seems like they may fall into the mistaken idea that they must take a QB in the first round.

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available). If the Browns, Bucs, and Rams all tie at 1-15, who owns the first pick?

as of right now, the Browns based on strength of schedule. 2010 NFL Draft Order

 

[huskers15]

Please don't let the Chiefs take him.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

I agree with you. I don't see the Rams or Bucs not taking SUH. For Cleveland it should be a no brainer but I who knows what's going to happen in the front office between the end of the season and the draft. Seems like they may fall into the mistaken idea that they must take a QB in the first round.

Cleveland will not take a QB with their first pick unless they trade into the late first again.. I usually don't like speaking in absolutes because you really never know, but I feel confident in doing so about this.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available).

Each of the last 2 years, the Rams clearly should have taken a QB instead of what they did. I don't know how much longer you want to wait. You would also be passing in favor of a DT who gets a Haynesworth contract before ever playing a down.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available).

Each of the last 2 years, the Rams clearly should have taken a QB instead of what they did. I don't know how much longer you want to wait. You would also be passing in favor of a DT who gets a Haynesworth contract before ever playing a down.

But also a DT who may be as good or better than Haynesworth as a rookie.... He is the most dominating D-Lineman I have ever seen in my years of watching football.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I never notice D-linemen when I watch football.

I notice Suh every time I watch Nebraska play (which isn't all that often, but still).

Dude's a stud and deserves to be #1 overall.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Top Ranked College Players (not listed in order, although I don't think it's too far off)(S) Eric Berry - Tenn.(DT) Ndamukong Suh - Neb (said to be head-and-shoulders above any other DTs in the draft)(OT) Russell Okong - Okl St.(QB) Jake Locker - Wash.(DT) Gerald McCoy - Okl(DT) Terrance Cody - Ala(WR) Dez Bryant - Okl St.(LB) Brandon Spikes - Flaand a lot of mocks have QB Clausen of ND going early, either to the Rams or Browns.With the Browns in the early running for the top pick, the choice is Suh. Maybe drop a few spots if an offer is there and they think they can get Okong. While they certainly need a QB, if you're the Browns you need to go with a more sure thing IMO. IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

I'd like to hear from a draft guru where Rolando McClain ranks these days. I think Kiper now has him as his #1 LB.

McClain - Alabama, would rank above Spikes but is an underclassman and has yet to declare for the draft. Spikes plays a bit faster but has a tougher time shedding blockers...more of a two-down backer right now that hasn't played in a 3-4. McClain makes all the calls on Saban's 3-4 D, is suited right now as a 3 down backer and has superior football intelligence. Spikes gets the slight nod as a hitter. Both project to be immediate starters and solid NFL LBs, McClain grades slightly higher and will probably adjust to the pro game faster, knock is that he plays behind DT Cody and that inflate's McClain's ability. Spikes: 6'3", around 245 lbs, mid 4.6 40 time. McClain: 6'4", 255 lbs, mid 4.6 40 time.

 

[lyon812]

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available).

Each of the last 2 years, the Rams clearly should have taken a QB instead of what they did.

Eh?At the 2007 draft, the need for a QB wasn't quite as apparent, considering that Bulger had thrown for 4301 yards in 2006. Despite a rather porous offensive line, our offense was solid. At 8-8, the Rams felt the greatest need was on the defensive side of the ball (in particular the pass rush), and so picked Carriker. He was dominant in college and supposed to be a standout defensive lineman in the Seymour mode. Two months after the 2007 draft, Bulger signs a six-year contract extension worth $65 million. This was the fourth straight season that Bulger was dominant. At the 2008 draft, the Rams were coming off a 3-13 season. Bulger had a poor 2007, but was hurt most of the season. He missed four games, with broken ribs and a concussion.. The beating he’d been taken had finally caught up to him. At this point, QB was clearly still not a need, as this was Bulger’s first bad season since becoming a starter. Many wanted the Rams to address the OL issues. They sign FA Jacob Bell to be their starting LG, and look for Jake Long in the draft--but obviously, they settled for Chris instead, because they felt there wasn’t another OL worth taking that high (and we still had defensive needs).Now, at the 2009 draft, what do we do? We have a QB with a huge contract that’s taken a huge beating over the last three years, but whom many think can still play--and that he’s the QB of the first five years, not the last two. Something absolutely needed to be done with the OL, especially since Bell struggled in his first year with the Rams. At this point, QB is still not a priority. So, the Rams sign FA Jason Brown, a great upgrade at C, and draft Jason Smith to hopefully be the eventual replacement for the departed Orlando Pace.And now? The Rams still have numerous holes to fill. Especially on defense. Taking a QB in 2008 would have been stupid. Taking one in 2009 would have been shortsighted and avoided the position of greatest need--replacing the swinging doors that were Alex Barron/Old Orlando Pace. Taking one in 2010 wouldn’t be the worst thing they did, but considering the need for a DT, and the potential dominance of Suh, I’d rather they take their chances.

 

[thecardiackid]

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available).

Each of the last 2 years, the Rams clearly should have taken a QB instead of what they did. I don't know how much longer you want to wait. You would also be passing in favor of a DT who gets a Haynesworth contract before ever playing a down.

How is this any better or worse than giving out a Stafford like contract for the QB they'd draft there - giving Manning / Brady $ for a unproven QB? One who is just as likely to go Ryan Leaf vs. Matt Ryan.As a Browns fan, I hope they do go QB. Watching Suh toss McCoy like a rag doll the other day was

CLE could really use a guy like that in the middle, but I don't know if he's a 'proto-typical' NG in a 3-4 D.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Nah.

 

[Raider Nation]

Whichever team takes him, I'm taking that defense as a sleeper with my last pick.

That's how much I think of this kid. MAJOR difference-maker.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Cleveland will pass, so no, but Tampa or Detroit will quickly scoop him up without doubt.

I pray that he would fall to Detroit. He is the type of player a team might trade up for.

It's ironic and Detroit's overall luck. They beat Cleveland in a thriller 38 to 37 and it'll end up costing them a player they would have wanted in the draft.

 

[Fallerjw]

That's my fear with the Rams--that they pass on Suh for a QB (providing he's available).

Each of the last 2 years, the Rams clearly should have taken a QB instead of what they did. I don't know how much longer you want to wait. You would also be passing in favor of a DT who gets a Haynesworth contract before ever playing a down.

How is this any better or worse than giving out a Stafford like contract for the QB they'd draft there - giving Manning / Brady $ for a unproven QB? One who is just as likely to go Ryan Leaf vs. Matt Ryan.As a Browns fan, I hope they do go QB. Watching Suh toss McCoy like a rag doll the other day was

CLE could really use a guy like that in the middle, but I don't know if he's a 'proto-typical' NG in a 3-4 D.

Imagine him and Sean Rogers side by side. That's like linebacker heaven.

 

[Rushmore]

Unbelievable talent. I haven't drooled over a player's natural gifts on the DL since Ngata, and this kid even moreso.

 

[TC]

He is the most dominating D-Lineman I have ever seen in my years of watching football.

Sue looks great and should be a league star. However, NCAA stardom is not NFL stardom. There have been great ones selected in the top 5 Bubba Smith MichSt - BALLeRoy Semon OK-TBBruce Smith VaTech - BUFJulius Peppers NC-CARMario Williams NCSt - HOUAnd.. there have been many non-star DEs taken in the first five picks. Here are a few semi-recent ones.2008 1.02 Chris Long VA-STL2007 1.04 Gaines Adams Clemson-TB2001 1.04 Justin Smith Missouri-CIN2000 1.01 Courtney Brown PSU-CLE1998 1.03 Andrea Wadsworth FSU-AZ1996 1.03 Simeon Rice IL-AZ1996 1.05 Cedric Jones OK-NYG

 

[Ariakis]

Has a DL ever won the Heisman before? He's in the top 5.

 

[peter griffin]

He is the most dominating D-Lineman I have ever seen in my years of watching football.

Sue looks great and should be a league star. However, NCAA stardom is not NFL stardom. There have been great ones selected in the top 5 Bubba Smith MichSt - BALLeRoy Semon OK-TBBruce Smith VaTech - BUFJulius Peppers NC-CARMario Williams NCSt - HOUAnd.. there have been many non-star DEs taken in the first five picks. Here are a few semi-recent ones.2008 1.02 Chris Long VA-STL2007 1.04 Gaines Adams Clemson-TB2001 1.04 Justin Smith Missouri-CIN2000 1.01 Courtney Brown PSU-CLE1998 1.03 Andrea Wadsworth FSU-AZ1996 1.03 Simeon Rice IL-AZ1996 1.05 Cedric Jones OK-NYG

Suh is a defensive tackle, although if he goes to a 3-4 team he might have to kick out end. But to compare him to Adams, Simeon Rice, etc is not really accurate.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

LOL does tampa have to try real hard to Throw the season?

 

[Foosball God]

Cleveland will pass, so no, but Tampa or Detroit will quickly scoop him up without doubt.

I pray that he would fall to Detroit. He is the type of player a team might trade up for.

It's ironic and Detroit's overall luck. They beat Cleveland in a thriller 38 to 37 and it'll end up costing them a player they would have wanted in the draft.

This reminds me of when Shaun Alexander and Steve Hucthinson went one pick before the Lions in consecutive draft years. This is the year they needed to go 0-16, last year they could have gotten Stafford at the 3 - 4 pick.

 

[shadyridr]

Its so funny how I never heard of this guy before Monday (Im not a college fball fan). Now I cant stop hearing about him.

 

[Doug B]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

If the Saints can lock things up by week 16 ... maybe they should take a dive to keep Suh out of the division

 

[treat88]

There are really only two elite players at their position in this class.

Eric Berry and Ndamukong Suh.

Lots of very good players otherwise, but these guys are in a class by themselves.

 

[gump]

Raheem Morris may throw the rest of the season...honestly. No one knows better than the Bucs how much of an impact a great DT can make.Of course...Morris really doesn't have to throw anything to cruise in at 1-15.

If the Saints can lock things up by week 16 ... maybe they should take a dive to keep Suh out of the division

 

[Resident A]

And.. there have been many non-star DEs taken in the first five picks. Here are a few semi-recent ones.

2008 1.02 Chris Long VA-STL

2007 1.04 Gaines Adams Clemson-TB

2001 1.04 Justin Smith Missouri-CIN

2000 1.01 Courtney Brown PSU-CLE

1998 1.03 Andrea Wadsworth FSU-AZ

1996 1.03 Simeon Rice IL-AZ

1996 1.05 Cedric Jones OK-NYG

You sure Simeon Rice belongs here? He is 13th on the NFL all-time Sacks list. Eight seasons with double-digit sacks seems pretty good to me.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

It depends on what system the team that drafts first runs. He is not a space eater that many teams want out of there DT. I think his best pro position would be end in a 3-4, very much in the mold of Richard Seymore.

 

[gigantor]

I dont see the Browns taking him unless he can play RB/WR

 

[FUBAR]

IF it's the Rams, does anyone think they don't go SUH?

Fingers crossed, man. Just hope he doesn't get picked before the Rams (if they don't end up with the #1 overall ).

I must admit, the Suh Long combo has potential.

 

[Rushmore]

I dont see the Browns taking him unless he can play RB/WR

Any team passing on him is making a mistake. BPA.