A.Bradshaw 2011 - Where will he be? (1 Viewer)

[unc22x]

Based on what I found online, it looks like Jacobs is scheduled to make $4.65 mil. in 2011. That said, I also saw a free agent RB list that his name was listed on too. I presume that was an error, but I am wondering what the NYG RB situation will look like next yr.

Up until the last few weeks I think it was a forgone conclusion that Bradshaw would be back in NY and the main guy. However, it looked like Jacobs worked his wa out of the doghouse and was quite relevant again. In the beginning and middle of the year it seemed Jacobs was all but done in NY once the yr. was over.

Add in Bradshaw's fumbling issues and now HE could be the one on the way out.

Is it possible (I know it is 'possible') that Jacobs gets cut for salary reasons? IF not, I feel Bradshaw will WANT to leave to be the undisputed #1RB.

 

[DesmondBishop]

Based on what I found online, it looks like Jacobs is scheduled to make $4.65 mil. in 2011. That said, I also saw a free agent RB list that his name was listed on too. I presume that was an error, but I am wondering what the NYG RB situation will look like next yr.Up until the last few weeks I think it was a forgone conclusion that Bradshaw would be back in NY and the main guy. However, it looked like Jacobs worked his wa out of the doghouse and was quite relevant again. In the beginning and middle of the year it seemed Jacobs was all but done in NY once the yr. was over.Add in Bradshaw's fumbling issues and now HE could be the one on the way out.Is it possible (I know it is 'possible') that Jacobs gets cut for salary reasons? IF not, I feel Bradshaw will WANT to leave to be the undisputed #1RB.

Bradshaw and Jacobs are allegedly best friends, and I think both are pretty happy in their role. Bradshaw is the starter and gets the bulk of the touches and Jacobs is the banger and seems like he was playing every 3rd series or so. Unless they think Ware can replace Jacobs I think they both stay put, no chance they move Bradshaw, he has speed and power, fumbling can be addressed, just ask ex-Giant Tiki Barber.

 

[netnalp]

While some writers have speculated that Bradshaw's fumbling makes it uncertain that the Giants will bring him back, I'm not buying it. Fumbling is something this staff thinks they can fix, especially since they were able to correct Tiki's fumbling issues, the Giants have the same RB coach that fixed Tiki's ball security issues. The Giants will want Bradshaw back and I believe he wants to be back.

Jacobs, I don't think the team would want to cut him till they have a replacement lined up. People talk that Danny Ware could replace him. But I ask what of anything has Ware shown? He didn't get many looks even during garbage time. A few years ago Bradshaw got looks during games when Jacobs and Ward were getting the bulk of the carries. Ward doesn't. The optimism about Ware I think is due to the string of productive backups the Giants have had, Grant, Ward, Bradshaw.

The Giants may get a RB in the draft, but by the time the draft comes around Jacobs may have gotten bonuses and it may not make sense to cut him. Jacobs was more productive this year than last, so he has that going for him. Jacobs may continue to be productive because he'll think he has a shot at being the starter, but really naming him the starter late this past season was just a head-game to motivate Bradshaw.

I don't think Bradshaw will want to leave. With his fumbling issues, he can't be certain that he'll be the #1 with another team or how short of a leash they'll give him. With the Giants, they've been through this before so they'll be more patient and Bradshaw knows if he can cut down on the fumbles he's the starter because Jacobs and Ware aren't going to beat him out. The Giants job is his to keep or lose.

 

[humpback]

I think it's completely up in the air right now. My guess is the Giants will want both of them back, but it's really going to come down to finances. If Bradshaw wants to be paid like an elite RB, I can't see the Giants keeping him and Jacobs at his salary- it would be one or the other. If Bradshaw is willing to take a lesser deal, I think they keep both.

Seeing how this is probably Bradshaw's only chance at a big payday, my guess is he's going to test the waters. Not sure if some one will pony up big bucks for him at this point. If it were me, I would choose Bradshaw over Jacobs if it came down to that, but it may not depending on what the market is for Bradshaw.

 

[shortbow]

I dont see why they wouldnt keep both and run them closer to 50/50 with an 18 game schedule.

 

[az_prof]

Too many questions to know at this point.

1) How much $ will Bradshaw need to be happy?

2) What kind of market for Bradshaw?

My guess is that the team will try to keep Bradshaw and Jacobs at 4.5 million is a believe or not a reasonable deal. Didn't Julius Jones get like 5 million a few years ago to to Seattle (and we all know how that turned out) and I think Seattle shelled out 3.5 or 3.5 for Fatdale White too, didn't they? I don't recall exact numbers but 4.5 million for a guy who is very effective as your RB2 is reasonable. Jacobs stays for sure. They will want Bradshaw and it is just a matter of what someone else is willing to pay him and if the GMen can match it. His fumbling was already under control the second half of the season after they "demoted" him for it. That got his attention and he held onto the ball much better.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

Here's something to think about when talking Bradshaw and FA: Unless the new CBA resets the minimum years needed to hit free agency back to 4, then Bradshaw would be a year away from true FA and would be a RFA next season. If that happens, I think the Giants would be happy to give him a high RFA tender and give him another year to solve his fumbling issue and get a crack at big money.

 

[az_prof]

Here's something to think about when talking Bradshaw and FA: Unless the new CBA resets the minimum years needed to hit free agency back to 4, then Bradshaw would be a year away from true FA and would be a RFA next season. If that happens, I think the Giants would be happy to give him a high RFA tender and give him another year to solve his fumbling issue and get a crack at big money.

People keep talking about RFA and even players being franchised, but how does any of that happen if there is no CBA? The category RFA and franchise tag come from the current CBA. No CBA and I think all FA are UFA with no franchise possible.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Looks like Bradshaw will be an unrestricted free agent. Besides Jacobs, one would have to think that the value of either Danny Ware or De'Rel Scott could have a significant jump. Maybe now is the time to add them to the end of your dynasty bench. I'm sure Ware is on a lot of waiver wires in leagues with 12 teams or less and less than 24 roster spots and some 26 roster spot leagues. Scott is probably not available because of recent rookie drafts. People haven't tired of him yet, but I'm sure he wouldn't be expensive in a trade either.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports all players with at least four years of service time will be unrestricted free agents under the labor agreement currently being discussed.

This had been the expected outcome as long as a new CBA was reached as opposed to a court-ordered short-term fix. The new free agency rules will affect upwards of 500 players, which should lead to a frenzy in late July after an agreement is reached. DeAngelo Williams, Ahmad Bradshaw, Joseph Addai, Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes, Steve Smith (NYG), and Zach Miller are the major fantasy names affected. All of the above will hit the open market.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Looks like Bradshaw will be an unrestricted free agent. Besides Jacobs, one would have to think that the value of either Danny Ware or De'Rel Scott could have a significant jump. Maybe now is the time to add them to the end of your dynasty bench. I'm sure Ware is on a lot of waiver wires in leagues with 12 teams or less and less than 24 roster spots and some 26 roster spot leagues. Scott is probably not available because of recent rookie drafts. People haven't tired of him yet, but I'm sure he wouldn't be expensive in a trade either.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports all players with at least four years of service time will be unrestricted free agents under the labor agreement currently being discussed.

This had been the expected outcome as long as a new CBA was reached as opposed to a court-ordered short-term fix. The new free agency rules will affect upwards of 500 players, which should lead to a frenzy in late July after an agreement is reached. DeAngelo Williams, Ahmad Bradshaw, Joseph Addai, Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes, Steve Smith (NYG), and Zach Miller are the major fantasy names affected. All of the above will hit the open market.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

While those speculative "adds" could pan out - all indications locally are that Bradsahw wants to sign back with NY and that the Giants want him back. Obviously things can fall apart, but just keep in mind that just because Bradshaw's no longer a RFA doesn't mean that he's gone.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Looks like Bradshaw will be an unrestricted free agent. Besides Jacobs, one would have to think that the value of either Danny Ware or De'Rel Scott could have a significant jump. Maybe now is the time to add them to the end of your dynasty bench. I'm sure Ware is on a lot of waiver wires in leagues with 12 teams or less and less than 24 roster spots and some 26 roster spot leagues. Scott is probably not available because of recent rookie drafts. People haven't tired of him yet, but I'm sure he wouldn't be expensive in a trade either.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports all players with at least four years of service time will be unrestricted free agents under the labor agreement currently being discussed.

This had been the expected outcome as long as a new CBA was reached as opposed to a court-ordered short-term fix. The new free agency rules will affect upwards of 500 players, which should lead to a frenzy in late July after an agreement is reached. DeAngelo Williams, Ahmad Bradshaw, Joseph Addai, Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes, Steve Smith (NYG), and Zach Miller are the major fantasy names affected. All of the above will hit the open market.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

While those speculative "adds" could pan out - all indications locally are that Bradsahw wants to sign back with NY and that the Giants want him back. Obviously things can fall apart, but just keep in mind that just because Bradshaw's no longer a RFA doesn't mean that he's gone.

True, but it does make it more likely if there is an interest in him on the open market.

 

[netnalp]

Bradshaw will be back. Some may point to comments by Coughlin that the team wants to get Jacobs more carries, but that is just coach speak. Coughlin never says anything negative about players, of course he's going to say Jacobs needs to be used more. I he didn't Jacobs would go pouting again.

I wouldn't bother acquiring Ware. The Giants didn't even use him in garbage time last season. 4 years with the Giants, he's been active for 29 games, 35 carries for 131yds 1td, 10 receptions for 82 yds. The year Jacobs and Ward each had 1k+ yards, Bradshaw as the 3rd RB had 67/355/1. Ware doesn't get used, in garbage time or even to show what he can do to elevate his trade value. The Giants would be very open to trading him and it would only take a 6th round pick at most, yet NFL teams aren't making offers. The Giants did sign Ware to a two year contract last March, I expect he'll get carries during preseason to see if he generates trade offers but I predict he'll get cut since he hasn't panned out as a KR and doesn't offer much as a RB.

 

[sihaokills]

I think Bradshaw stays in NY. He has great talent and could do many things. The fumbling issues could be easily solved, Adrain Peterson had those problems but is still considered a great. Jacobs IMO will go to somewhere like Miami. Jacobs would be a good mentor for Thomas

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Looks like Bradshaw will be an unrestricted free agent. Besides Jacobs, one would have to think that the value of either Danny Ware or De'Rel Scott could have a significant jump. Maybe now is the time to add them to the end of your dynasty bench. I'm sure Ware is on a lot of waiver wires in leagues with 12 teams or less and less than 24 roster spots and some 26 roster spot leagues. Scott is probably not available because of recent rookie drafts. People haven't tired of him yet, but I'm sure he wouldn't be expensive in a trade either.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports all players with at least four years of service time will be unrestricted free agents under the labor agreement currently being discussed.

This had been the expected outcome as long as a new CBA was reached as opposed to a court-ordered short-term fix. The new free agency rules will affect upwards of 500 players, which should lead to a frenzy in late July after an agreement is reached. DeAngelo Williams, Ahmad Bradshaw, Joseph Addai, Sidney Rice, Santonio Holmes, Steve Smith (NYG), and Zach Miller are the major fantasy names affected. All of the above will hit the open market.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

While those speculative "adds" could pan out - all indications locally are that Bradsahw wants to sign back with NY and that the Giants want him back. Obviously things can fall apart, but just keep in mind that just because Bradshaw's no longer a RFA doesn't mean that he's gone.

True, but it does make it more likely if there is an interest in him on the open market.

I guess the problem then would be, would the Giants use the money earmarked for Bradshaw on another FA back like Williams? My guess is that they likely would. I doubt they want to go with a Jacobs-Ware-Scott backfield.

 

[houndirish]

I'll be very surprised if Bradshaw is not a Giant this season. He's probably the #2 option for the front office to retain from their current group of projected free agents. I think WR Steve Smith will be the top priority. The only way I can see Bradshaw leaving is if another team offers an exorbitant sum that the Giants deem too high. In that case I can see where the Giants would potentially let him walk, even though they want to keep him, but then chase a guy like Deangelo Williams. However I think that scenario is unlikely to occur because I tend to think Williams would get better offers on the open market than Bradshaw. RB hasn't consistently been a position teams seem willing to break the bank on in free agency. Bradshaw, in addition to the fumbling, has also had a minor injury issue that has nagged him enough that it would hurt his value in free agenct. So long story short I think it's unlikely that Bradshaw will receive an offer on the open market that is so high that the Giants decline to retain him.

I also think Jacobs definitively will remain a Giant. While there was a brief period of time when Jacobs seemed discontent that Bradshaw was penciled in as the starter, both RB's likely recognize they're each better off when not asked to carry the entire load and instead share some carries. I think the workload will be similar to a year ago with Bradshaw getting the bulk of the carries but being spelled for several series by Jacobs.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I'll be very surprised if Bradshaw is not a Giant this season. He's probably the #2 option for the front office to retain from their current group of projected free agents. I think WR Steve Smith will be the top priority. The only way I can see Bradshaw leaving is if another team offers an exorbitant sum that the Giants deem too high. In that case I can see where the Giants would potentially let him walk, even though they want to keep him, but then chase a guy like Deangelo Williams. However I think that scenario is unlikely to occur because I tend to think Williams would get better offers on the open market than Bradshaw. RB hasn't consistently been a position teams seem willing to break the bank on in free agency. Bradshaw, in addition to the fumbling, has also had a minor injury issue that has nagged him enough that it would hurt his value in free agenct. So long story short I think it's unlikely that Bradshaw will receive an offer on the open market that is so high that the Giants decline to retain him.I also think Jacobs definitively will remain a Giant. While there was a brief period of time when Jacobs seemed discontent that Bradshaw was penciled in as the starter, both RB's likely recognize they're each better off when not asked to carry the entire load and instead share some carries. I think the workload will be similar to a year ago with Bradshaw getting the bulk of the carries but being spelled for several series by Jacobs.

While Bradshaw may very well end up back in NY, you're wrong about one thing. It's not the Giants decision to decide whether to retain him if they want him. He's an UFA and that means he can sign with whoever he wants.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think Bradshaw back in NY is a no brainer.

 

[netnalp]

If the new bargaining agreement makes him a UFA that could change things, as a RFA the Giants put a 2nd round tender on him. I think Deangelo will get more interest and would be the guy that teams toss big money at.

 

[stbugs]

I'll be very surprised if Bradshaw is not a Giant this season. He's probably the #2 option for the front office to retain from their current group of projected free agents. I think WR Steve Smith will be the top priority. The only way I can see Bradshaw leaving is if another team offers an exorbitant sum that the Giants deem too high. In that case I can see where the Giants would potentially let him walk, even though they want to keep him, but then chase a guy like Deangelo Williams. However I think that scenario is unlikely to occur because I tend to think Williams would get better offers on the open market than Bradshaw. RB hasn't consistently been a position teams seem willing to break the bank on in free agency. Bradshaw, in addition to the fumbling, has also had a minor injury issue that has nagged him enough that it would hurt his value in free agenct. So long story short I think it's unlikely that Bradshaw will receive an offer on the open market that is so high that the Giants decline to retain him.

I also think Jacobs definitively will remain a Giant. While there was a brief period of time when Jacobs seemed discontent that Bradshaw was penciled in as the starter, both RB's likely recognize they're each better off when not asked to carry the entire load and instead share some carries. I think the workload will be similar to a year ago with Bradshaw getting the bulk of the carries but being spelled for several series by Jacobs.

This year may be different. Based on the preliminary reports of the CBA, there could be a salary cap floor, so you may have teams that have to spend more money. It wouldn't surprise me to see some out of the ordinary offers. For anyone that is an UFA, I think it will be more difficult to call this year what happens.

 

[houndirish]

True ... but in that situation the Giants may also be in a position to spend more than they normally would to keep pace with the assigned spending requirement.

 

[houndirish]

I'll be very surprised if Bradshaw is not a Giant this season. He's probably the #2 option for the front office to retain from their current group of projected free agents. I think WR Steve Smith will be the top priority. The only way I can see Bradshaw leaving is if another team offers an exorbitant sum that the Giants deem too high. In that case I can see where the Giants would potentially let him walk, even though they want to keep him, but then chase a guy like Deangelo Williams. However I think that scenario is unlikely to occur because I tend to think Williams would get better offers on the open market than Bradshaw. RB hasn't consistently been a position teams seem willing to break the bank on in free agency. Bradshaw, in addition to the fumbling, has also had a minor injury issue that has nagged him enough that it would hurt his value in free agenct. So long story short I think it's unlikely that Bradshaw will receive an offer on the open market that is so high that the Giants decline to retain him.I also think Jacobs definitively will remain a Giant. While there was a brief period of time when Jacobs seemed discontent that Bradshaw was penciled in as the starter, both RB's likely recognize they're each better off when not asked to carry the entire load and instead share some carries. I think the workload will be similar to a year ago with Bradshaw getting the bulk of the carries but being spelled for several series by Jacobs.

While Bradshaw may very well end up back in NY, you're wrong about one thing. It's not the Giants decision to decide whether to retain him if they want him. He's an UFA and that means he can sign with whoever he wants.

Agreed, I'm assuming Bradshaw will in fact be a UFA when the labor agreement is finalized. Clearly Bradshaw would be the final decision maker. I'm alluding to the team's approach and what I feel is their likelihood to make it a priority to sign him.