Ditkaless Wonders
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I was shocked he didn't take that back. I've seen Defensive tackles with more foot speed.
I don't think he was running full speed. He had to avoid Hass early on in the run and then he was trying to stay in bounds for the rest of the run. Also, he was making sure to protect the ball so he wouldn't have it stripped on the return. He's not super fast, but he was fast enough to make the pick.I was shocked he didn't take that back. I've seen Defensive tackles with more foot speed.
That pick was a gift from Hass, one of the worst I've seen thrown this season. Hawk is a pretty athletic guy, so I wouldn't read too much into this.I don't think he was running full speed. He had to avoid Hass early on in the run and then he was trying to stay in bounds for the rest of the run. Also, he was making sure to protect the ball so he wouldn't have it stripped on the return. He's not super fast, but he was fast enough to make the pick.I was shocked he didn't take that back. I've seen Defensive tackles with more foot speed.
__I agree he looked slow returning that interception yesterday, but feel compelled to note that Hawk's interception of Joe Flacco a few weeks ago was one of the most athletic, spectacular plays I have seen from a Packer linebacker this season, and there have been some great ones.
__Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.
It was inevitable.His production is probably more material than how it looks getting it done. David Boston looked great in shorts. Matt Lienert looked good on paper. I think he can play, and well, in the correct system. Is he the greatest impact backer of the last 5 years, no. Is he vernon Ghosten, no. He was maybe drafted a little too early for his impact, but lots of guys with earlier grades bust out, and lots of impact players slip through every grading system and make names for themselves in the league. I was jsut noting that to me, on that play, he seemed less graceful, fluid, and fast than I would have thought. When he picked the ball, given the position on the field, I was shocked it did not go for 6. Looking at it again I see my initial opinion may have been a little harsh.Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.
Looked just fine for a LB. He is still 2nd in tackles on the team and has two INT's with one sack. What more do you want from him?
And you have generally been wrong about it too.Way to jump in during one of his best and most complete seasons.Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.
That is the play - thanks for the video link. Going stride for stride with Todd Heap and then jumping and reaching back for the pick was a very impressive, athletic play in my opinion.With 20/20 hindsight, maybe Thompson would take Vernon Davis today over Hawk at #5, but with Davis on the roster, he perhaps would not have added Jermichael Finley to the team when he did. Seeing plays like this (and several others Hawk has made in recent weeks) lead me to think the team is better off today with Hawk and Finley than if they'd drafted Davis.__I agree he looked slow returning that interception yesterday, but feel compelled to note that Hawk's interception of Joe Flacco a few weeks ago was one of the most athletic, spectacular plays I have seen from a Packer linebacker this season, and there have been some great ones.__
Id hope in hindsight they would take Ngata over Hawk or Davis if they could do it all over again.That is the play - thanks for the video link. Going stride for stride with Todd Heap and then jumping and reaching back for the pick was a very impressive, athletic play in my opinion.With 20/20 hindsight, maybe Thompson would take Vernon Davis today over Hawk at #5, but with Davis on the roster, he perhaps would not have added Jermichael Finley to the team when he did. Seeing plays like this (and several others Hawk has made in recent weeks) lead me to think the team is better off today with Hawk and Finley than if they'd drafted Davis.__I agree he looked slow returning that interception yesterday, but feel compelled to note that Hawk's interception of Joe Flacco a few weeks ago was one of the most athletic, spectacular plays I have seen from a Packer linebacker this season, and there have been some great ones.__
He's probably the best tackler on the #1 Rush defense in the NFL.Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.
Hawk starts out slow then tails off.I was shocked he didn't take that back. I've seen Defensive tackles with more foot speed.
That last example won't be persuasive to the person you offered it to. He still thinks Leinart is better than Rivers.His production is probably more material than how it looks getting it done. David Boston looked great in shorts. Matt Lienert looked good on paper.Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.
Maurile Tremblay said:That last example won't be persuasive to the person you offered it to. He still thinks Leinart is better than Rivers.Ditkaless Wonders said:His production is probably more material than how it looks getting it done. David Boston looked great in shorts. Matt Lienert looked good on paper.LHUCKS said:Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.

can't believe it took him 4 hours.BigJohn said:LHUCKS said:Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.It was inevitable.
Davis has one year and the critics come out of the weeds. Till this year the underwear model Davis was a non factor. During those years Hawk help the Packers on D with being a stable guy making the normal plays. I think the draft pick was fine then and still is.CletiusMaximus said:That is the play - thanks for the video link. Going stride for stride with Todd Heap and then jumping and reaching back for the pick was a very impressive, athletic play in my opinion.With 20/20 hindsight, maybe Thompson would take Vernon Davis today over Hawk at #5, but with Davis on the roster, he perhaps would not have added Jermichael Finley to the team when he did. Seeing plays like this (and several others Hawk has made in recent weeks) lead me to think the team is better off today with Hawk and Finley than if they'd drafted Davis.BigJohn said:__CletiusMaximus said:I agree he looked slow returning that interception yesterday, but feel compelled to note that Hawk's interception of Joe Flacco a few weeks ago was one of the most athletic, spectacular plays I have seen from a Packer linebacker this season, and there have been some great ones.__
I know that. It appeals, however, to my twisted sense of humor to offer it to him nonetheless. I also know what his feeling on Gholston is based on his Alma Mater (Gholston's) and Lhucks reaction thereto.Maurile Tremblay said:That last example won't be persuasive to the person you offered it to. He still thinks Leinart is better than Rivers.Ditkaless Wonders said:His production is probably more material than how it looks getting it done. David Boston looked great in shorts. Matt Lienert looked good on paper.LHUCKS said:Do a search on threads with "Hawk" in the title...I've been saying this...guy is overrated, always has been.