A. Pittman starting vs Chicago (1 Viewer)

[Deuce'sWild]

I have seen very little of Pittman and am curious what FBGs think of his prospects for this week vs Chicago Seems like a nice matchup, but the Rams offense struggles to move the ball without SJax in the lineup.

What kind of numbers do you look for?

UPDATED TO WEEK 12 vs Chicago. I left the SF predictions in the thread for reference.

 

[Interseptopus]

In a PPR league, using Custom Cheetsheets, they have Pittman ranked 14th with 15.5 points...

65 rushing yards, 0.6 TDs, 3 receptions, 18 yards

Thinking about starting him

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I feel like SF def is actually coming around a little. I don't feel good about Pittman tomorrow. Just my gut.

 

[Marc Levin]

Depends - they go down 20 points like they did versus the Jets and it doesn't really matter who the runner is.

They hang in the game, and I expect them to work him a lot. Rough weather and it might be even more work. As far as skill set goes, I like him. I am sure Cecil and Sig have better insight into him, but the few times I watched him play, I saw a good runner with vision and decent acceleration through the hole. Not LT, but not Ron Dayne. Hope that helps. LOL!!

In all seriousness, he looks to be an average NFL quality runner with a good matchup this week. Unfortunately, the St Louis run blocking unit has not been very good and the St. Louis runners are relied on to do quite a bit with their individual talent. That said, Haslett has shown a willingness over the years to feed his runner. And if SJax is to be out an extended period of time, the team needs to get Pittman as many reps as possible.

Here are a couple of scouting reports:

http://www.warroomreport.com/draft/rankings/rb/pittman.htm

http://www.paffl.com/2007/05/rb_antonio_pitt.html

http://billsnation.blogspot.com/2007/03/pr...io-pittman.html

http://ohiostate.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=3758

(with vids of him in college, H.S., and NFL scouting reports)

 

[Deuce'sWild]

according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Coach Jim Haslett said, "I've already told him that he needs to run his butt of this week and prove that he deserves this opportunity. He can't rush 13 attempts for 28 yards. He needs to break through and get a hundred-yard game and show that he's a back that can play in the league for a long time."

 

[meeka]

I am starting him. It looks to be a better start than Graham against the Vikes. I expect about 80 yards about a 60-70% chance of scoring a TD.

 

[Marc Levin]

I feel like SF def is actually coming around a little. I don't feel good about Pittman tomorrow. Just my gut.

The SF D has been great the last 2 weeks against the run, but that brings them up to a mid 20s ranked run defense. I think the question is not how well the SF D will defend the run but how long Haslett will stick with the run. For fantasy purposes, that is the operative issue here. IMO, as long as St Lou is in the game, Haslett will feed a healthy dose of touches to the RB.I think flex/lower end RB2 numbers are a reasonable expectation here - and with a couple of TD plunges, he could be a nice surprise for your lineup. Of course, whether to play him depends on what else ya got, but I won't address that question.Or maybe I am optimistic b/c I am floating with Slaton, Bush, SJax, Edge, and Pittman for the rest of the year. Whether to pick up Pittman in place of Sjax in my lineup was one of my toughest decisions this week (made a lot easier when SJax was ruled out early in the week ...)

 

[Gadfly]

I'm considering him over MJD vs Ten. I suppose they're both dangers for bad games, and Pittman probably has more upside given the defenses they face. I don't know, though. I think MJD will do decently catching balls, and it is a .5 PPR.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD.

After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...

16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FP

I think the Niners run all over the Rams.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I'm considering him over MJD vs Ten. I suppose they're both dangers for bad games, and Pittman probably has more upside given the defenses they face. I don't know, though. I think MJD will do decently catching balls, and it is a .5 PPR.

MJD is up/down this year, I think this is a down game, IMO. Haynesworth and TENN can make life miserable on RBs, and the Titans will probably control the clock with their running game...not many opps for MJD. He seems to thrive on good matchups and really stink on the bad ones.

 

[Marc Levin]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD. After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FPI think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

 

[Deuce'sWild]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD. After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FPI think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

I agree, the kicker here is, will the Rams be in the game. I know the Panthers will be in the game vs the Lions...so it takes more of the guessing out of it for me. Pittman is a decent start. With a low ceiling, IMO. J. Stewart is a decent start, with the chance to score 2-3 tds on the Lions.I just can't see the Rams moving the ball much. They are so bipolar offensively.

 

[Couch Potato]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD.

After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...

16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FP

I think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

I agree, the kicker here is, will the Rams be in the game. I know the Panthers will be in the game vs the Lions...so it takes more of the guessing out of it for me. Pittman is a decent start. With a low ceiling, IMO. J. Stewart is a decent start, with the chance to score 2-3 tds on the Lions.

I just can't see the Rams moving the ball much. They are so bipolar offensively.

At this point, I can't see the 49ers dominating anyone. I'm a homer, and they are a mess. They are looking at the Rams as a "must win" because if they don't get this one, they might not get another all year. That's how bad they've become. The Rams will be in the game.ETA -- SF has given up 29 or more points in each of their last 6 games.

 

[p00h]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD. After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FPI think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

I agree, the kicker here is, will the Rams be in the game. I know the Panthers will be in the game vs the Lions...so it takes more of the guessing out of it for me. Pittman is a decent start. With a low ceiling, IMO. J. Stewart is a decent start, with the chance to score 2-3 tds on the Lions.I just can't see the Rams moving the ball much. They are so bipolar offensively.

Gotta disagree here. The way deangelo is running, it is very iffy that stewart gets a lot of touches, even if they do get it down to the goalline. Pittman should get 15-20 carries. I can't see the 9ers blow them out. Just don't see it happening. I'd go with Pittman between those two. Going with pittman over earnest graham, but thats an easy one in my eyes...

 

[Deuce'sWild]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD.

After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...

16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FP

I think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

I agree, the kicker here is, will the Rams be in the game. I know the Panthers will be in the game vs the Lions...so it takes more of the guessing out of it for me. Pittman is a decent start. With a low ceiling, IMO. J. Stewart is a decent start, with the chance to score 2-3 tds on the Lions.

I just can't see the Rams moving the ball much. They are so bipolar offensively.

At this point, I can't see the 49ers dominating anyone. I'm a homer, and they are a mess. They are looking at the Rams as a "must win" because if they don't get this one, they might not get another all year. That's how bad they've become. The Rams will be in the game.ETA -- SF has given up 29 or more points in each of their last 6 games.

on the 29 pts or more given up. Maybe this is a game the Rams perform well in. Who knows, I'm going cross eyed

 

[Deuce'sWild]

My other options are J. Stewart or MJD. J. Stewart has a great matchup, and may get some garbage time. He's probably starting over Pittman and MJD. After doing some research, here is my best guess on Pittman...16 carries @ 3.8 ypc for 60 yds, 0 tds. 5 catches @ 6 ypc for 30 yds, 0 tds. 9 FPI think the Niners run all over the Rams.

Bump that to 18-20 carries with similar stats since 3.8 means Haslett keeps running him, give me a point per reception and fractional scoring, and I'm OK starting Pittman with those stats (14+ as a reasonable expectation is pretty sweet)

I agree, the kicker here is, will the Rams be in the game. I know the Panthers will be in the game vs the Lions...so it takes more of the guessing out of it for me. Pittman is a decent start. With a low ceiling, IMO. J. Stewart is a decent start, with the chance to score 2-3 tds on the Lions.II just can't see the Rams moving the ball much. They are so bipolar offensively.

Gotta disagree here. The way deangelo is running, it is very iffy that stewart gets a lot of touches, even if they do get it down to the goalline. Pittman should get 15-20 carries. I can't see the 9ers blow them out. Just don't see it happening. I'd go with Pittman between those two. Going with pittman over earnest graham, but thats an easy one in my eyes...

I think DeA will get the most carries, but in garbage time I would think they would see what the rookie can do, get him some confidence going...etc

 

[Marc Levin]

Good instincts on Stewart, but Pittman wasn't a bad start today either.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Like I said, SF def is actually playing pretty well. StL only had 3 pts going into the 4th qtr I believe. It's not that Pittman is a bad runner, it's just that Bulger and Company are that bad of a supporting cast.

I think Pittman had 10 carries for 70 yds in the 1st half. Didn't get to see him run though, how'd he look?

 

[zamboni]

Certainly a decent fill-in performance by Pittman, and you have to give the guy credit. Haslett challenged him to get 100 yards and he would have gotten there if the game situation didn't limit his carry total.

 

[Marc Levin]

Certainly a decent fill-in performance by Pittman, and you have to give the guy credit. Haslett challenged him to get 100 yards and he would have gotten there if the game situation didn't limit his carry total.

Yup - he probably could have had a draw play called on last drive and received 5 more yards - he ran like a feature back and that is what Haslett wanted to see.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

The Bears gave up a lot of yds to Grant last week, but pretty much shut down the Titans the week before, I believe.

My concern, as usual, is the St Louis won't be able to move the ball enough for Pittman to have any scoring opps. He hasn't scored a td this year in 4 games as the primary ball carrier. He should be good for yardage, but the Tds are probably not going to be there against a good def.