A Post Season VBD Application? (1 Viewer)

[Stinkin Ref]

POST SEASON VBD APPLICATION

What I was wondering is if anyone had or could create an APP that alows us to plug in our scoring sytems just like your preseason VBD APP, but then it would generate a "cheatsheet" (so to speak) showing where every player actually ended up ranking for the 2006 season?

I think this would be extremely helpful for several reasons:

1. We could compare it to the predraft cheatsheet and see where guys actually ended up compared to where we thought they would end up at the beginning of the season.

2. It would allow us to see where we made good, bad, and ugly picks during our drafts.

3. It would not only reinforce good strategies, but also help us see where we made mistakes.

4. We would quickly be able to see how good FBG's really are by comparing the preseason sheet to the post season one.

5. It would allow us to plug in different scoring systems since many of us play in a variety of leagues.

6. It would help those of us that are going to be joining/starting/taking over a team in a new league. We would be able to plug in the new scoring system for the league that we are getting ready to enter and see who the best players in that particular league were from the year before. (eventually it might be great if the APP was able to generate a "cheatsehet" showing the players ranked over say the last 3 years for that particular scoring system).

EXAMPLE: In one of my leagues, Cadillac Williams was ranked 11th at his position and 14 th overall on my predraft VBD cheatsheet. We are pretty sure he did not end up being ranked that high. But where did he end up? How many guys finished ahead of him? Who could/should I have taken instead? I think this would be a powerful tool to reinforce the good things that we did during our drafts, but to also teach ourselves some lessons on what to do and maybe what not to do the next year.

I do not know if an APP like this is even possible, but I thought it might be something that you guys could look into since you already have the starting point of your current APP.

Lastly, the purpose of this APP would not be to solely see how good the FBG's are. Although this tool would let us see where they hit and where they missed very quickly. Obviously there are reasons for each individual players performance or lack of performance, but isn't that what we try to shoot for....to be ahead of the curve....to try to get as many hits (F. Gore) as we can....and as few misses (Jordan/Moss)...as we can? I think this tool would help us see the hits and the misses and help us in the future.

 

[Bob Wiley]

I would love to see this tool.

 

[greggorymac]

POST SEASON VBD APPLICATION

What I was wondering is if anyone had or could create an APP that alows us to plug in our scoring sytems just like your preseason VBD APP, but then it would generate a "cheatsheet" (so to speak) showing where every player actually ended up ranking for the 2006 season?

I think this would be extremely helpful for several reasons:

1. We could compare it to the predraft cheatsheet and see where guys actually ended up compared to where we thought they would end up at the beginning of the season.

2. It would allow us to see where we made good, bad, and ugly picks during our drafts.

3. It would not only reinforce good strategies, but also help us see where we made mistakes.

4. We would quickly be able to see how good FBG's really are by comparing the preseason sheet to the post season one.

5. It would allow us to plug in different scoring systems since many of us play in a variety of leagues.

6. It would help those of us that are going to be joining/starting/taking over a team in a new league. We would be able to plug in the new scoring system for the league that we are getting ready to enter and see who the best players in that particular league were from the year before. (eventually it might be great if the APP was able to generate a "cheatsehet" showing the players ranked over say the last 3 years for that particular scoring system).

EXAMPLE: In one of my leagues, Cadillac Williams was ranked 11th at his position and 14 th overall on my predraft VBD cheatsheet. We are pretty sure he did not end up being ranked that high. But where did he end up? How many guys finished ahead of him? Who could/should I have taken instead? I think this would be a powerful tool to reinforce the good things that we did during our drafts, but to also teach ourselves some lessons on what to do and maybe what not to do the next year.

I do not know if an APP like this is even possible, but I thought it might be something that you guys could look into since you already have the starting point of your current APP.

Lastly, the purpose of this APP would not be to solely see how good you guys are. Although this tool would let us see where you guys hit and where you missed very quickly. Obviously there are reasons for each individual players performance or lack of performance, but isn't that what we try to shoot for....to be ahead of the curve....to try to get as many hits (F. Gore) as we can....and as few misses (Jordan/Moss)...as we can? I think this tool would help us see the hits and the misses and help us in the future.

It could be done manually with a little effort.1. Save whatever pre-season projections you want to use as your 'pre-season' control.

2. Upload those pre-season rankings into the VBD program to get your 'pre-season VBD Cheat Sheet'

3. And this is the time consuming one... Copy and past each players actual statistics into the same pre-season projections template (you must keep the same format). After you've done all of that (which should take a couple hours), save the post-season statistics as your 'post-season' test.

4. Upload the post season statistics into the VBD program to get your 'post-season VBD Cheat Sheet.'

5. Compare and Contrast

Please, if anyone out there does go through the trouble of doing this (I don't have the VBD program myself), please post the results.

 

[Blue_Devil_31]

It could be done manually with a little effort.1. Save whatever pre-season projections you want to use as your 'pre-season' control.2. Upload those pre-season rankings into the VBD program to get your 'pre-season VBD Cheat Sheet'3. And this is the time consuming one... Copy and past each players actual statistics into the same pre-season projections template (you must keep the same format). After you've done all of that (which should take a couple hours), save the post-season statistics as your 'post-season' test.4. Upload the post season statistics into the VBD program to get your 'post-season VBD Cheat Sheet.'5. Compare and ContrastPlease, if anyone out there does go through the trouble of doing this (I don't have the VBD program myself), please post the results.

i find it very hard to believe that with all the work the FBGs do here, that they do not already do this.but every year, folks want to see this analysis. and every year, nothing.i've been a FBG member for years and will undoubtedly remain regardless of the results of this analysis. everyone knows a lot of this hobby is hit or miss. is it all about possibly posting negative advertising for the product here?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

It could be done manually with a little effort.

This would take about five minutes in Excel.Copy the stats from here into Excel (use "Text to Columns" if necessary). Calculate FF points based on scoring system. Pick a baseline. Calculate X-value. Sort. Done.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

It could be done manually with a little effort.

This would take about five minutes in Excel.Copy the stats from here into Excel (use "Text to Columns" if necessary). Calculate FF points based on scoring system. Pick a baseline. Calculate X-value. Sort. Done.

So then is this something that could easily be done by the FBG's and made part of the Subscriber Section and something that could be accessed by all subscribers and used throughout the offseason?Would be nice to have somethng like this on this site that was ongoing throughout the season as well, if that is possible.

 

[radballs]

Here's the top 100 overall (doesn't include Kickers or Defenses) using WCOFF scoring and starting lineup of 1/2/3/1/1/1 with one flex. Baseline of 12 QBs, 30 RBs, 42 WRs, 12 TEs. Sorry, I don't know how to use the code function. Disclaimer: Only based on stats through week 16 and only uses total FP (lacking due to inclusion of any kind of PPG data). The last column is the X value and the column just to the left of that is the total FP.

FP X Value

1 RB Tomlinson,Ladainian SD 333 1749 28 54 494 3 1 464.3 324.8

2 RB Jackson,Steven STL 321 1386 10 88 782 2 2 376.8 237.3

3 RB Johnson,Larry KC 383 1651 14 36 388 2 2 335.9 196.4

4 RB Westbrook,Brian PHI 239 1214 7 76 670 4 2 330.4 190.9

5 RB Gore,Frank SF 282 1542 8 59 453 1 6 312.5 173.0

6 WR Harrison,Marvin IND 0 0 0 90 1292 11 1 285.2 153.8

7 RB Parker,Willie PIT 300 1360 11 29 211 3 4 270.1 130.6

8 WR Driver,Donald GB 6 22 0 89 1272 7 0 260.4 129.0

9 WR Johnson,Chad CIN 6 24 0 83 1317 7 1 259.1 127.7

10 WR Wayne,Reggie IND 0 0 0 80 1240 9 0 258 126.6

11 WR Owens,Terrell DAL 0 0 0 79 1063 12 0 257.3 125.9

12 WR Holt,Torry STL 0 0 0 84 1098 10 1 253.8 122.4

13 RB Jones-Drew,Maurice JAX 154 895 12 42 420 2 1 257.5 118.0

14 RB Bush,Reggie NO 151 538 5 87 735 2 2 256.3 116.8

15 WR Johnson,Andre HOU 3 14 0 101 1135 5 0 245.9 114.5

16 RB Barber,Tiki NYG 304 1428 2 55 441 0 1 253.9 114.4

17 WR Houshmandzadeh,T.J. CIN 3 6 0 86 1037 9 0 244.3 112.9

18 WR Walker,Javon DEN 9 123 1 65 1059 8 0 237.2 105.8

19 WR Coles,Laveranues NYJ 2 14 0 89 1074 6 0 233.8 102.4

20 WR Evans,Lee BUF 0 0 0 75 1145 7 1 231.5 100.1

21 WR Smith,Steve CAR 7 40 1 76 1081 6 0 230.1 98.7

22 QB Manning,Peyton IND 4115 29 9 22 25 3 1 333.25 95.7

23 WR Williams,Roy DET 2 2 0 76 1206 5 2 226.8 95.4

24 RB Johnson,Rudi CIN 328 1261 12 22 121 0 2 232.2 92.7

25 RB Jones,Kevin DET 181 689 6 61 520 2 5 229.9 90.4

26 WR Colston,Marques NO 0 0 0 70 1038 8 0 221.8 90.4

27 WR Jackson,Darrell SEA 0 0 0 63 956 10 0 218.6 87.2

28 WR Burress,Plaxico NYG 0 0 0 61 962 10 1 217.2 85.8

29 WR Furrey,Mike DET 0 0 0 87 984 5 1 215.4 84.0

30 WR Boldin,Anquan ARI 3 10 0 79 1091 4 0 213.1 81.7

31 RB Taylor,Chester MIN 291 1185 5 41 284 0 3 217.9 78.4

32 QB Brees,Drew NO 4378 26 11 41 32 0 3 315.1 77.6

33 RB Betts,Ladell WAS 225 1062 4 47 393 0 2 216.5 77.0

34 RB Addai,Joseph IND 205 1017 7 37 296 1 1 216.3 76.8

35 RB McAllister,Deuce NO 244 1057 10 30 198 0 1 215.5 76.0

36 TE Gates,Antonio SD 0 0 0 67 868 8 0 201.8 73.3

37 WR Cotchery,Jerricho NYJ 4 28 0 75 908 6 0 204.6 73.2

38 RB Green,Ahman GB 244 988 5 42 334 1 2 210.2 70.7

39 WR Ward,Hines PIT 0 0 0 69 924 6 1 197.4 66.0

40 RB Jones,Thomas CHI 288 1182 6 35 157 0 1 204.9 65.4

41 WR Glenn,Terry DAL 3 11 0 64 938 6 0 194.9 63.5

42 TE Gonzalez,Tony KC 0 0 0 71 879 5 0 188.9 60.4

43 WR Bruce,Isaac STL 0 0 0 70 1032 3 0 191.2 59.8

44 RB James,Edgerrin ARI 321 1093 5 38 217 0 3 199 59.5

45 QB Vick,Michael ATL 2393 19 13 120 1022 2 3 296.85 59.3

46 WR Fitzgerald,Larry ARI 1 5 0 64 908 5 0 185.3 53.9

47 QB Bulger,Marc STL 4053 23 8 18 44 0 3 291.05 53.5

48 WR Galloway,Joey TB 2 9 0 54 939 6 0 184.8 53.4

49 WR Brown,Reggie PHI 3 24 1 46 816 8 0 184 52.6

50 WR Clayton,Mark BAL 7 -30 0 65 913 5 0 183.3 51.9

51 RB Barber,Marion DAL 129 639 13 18 173 2 0 189.2 49.7

52 RB Lewis,Jamal BAL 294 1063 9 17 103 0 2 187.6 48.1

53 QB Palmer,Carson CIN 3785 26 13 24 38 0 7 284.05 46.5

54 RB Taylor,Fred JAX 224 1120 5 22 216 0 2 185.6 46.1

55 TE Heap,Todd BAL 0 0 0 68 705 6 0 174.5 46.0

56 TE Winslow,Kellen CLE 0 0 0 78 782 3 0 174.2 45.7

57 WR Johnson,Keyshawn CAR 1 4 1 67 791 4 1 176.5 45.1

58 WR Edwards,Braylon CLE 3 5 0 56 833 6 0 175.8 44.4

59 TE Shockey,Jeremy NYG 0 0 0 66 623 7 0 170.3 41.8

60 WR Muhammad,Muhsin CHI 0 0 0 59 836 5 1 172.6 41.2

61 RB Brown,Ronnie MIA 221 890 5 32 266 0 3 177.6 38.1

62 RB Henry,Travis TEN 249 1109 7 17 75 0 1 177.4 37.9

63 TE Crumpler,Alge ATL 0 0 0 50 716 7 0 163.6 35.1

64 WR Berrian,Bernard CHI 2 5 0 50 758 6 1 162.3 30.9

65 QB Kitna,Jon DET 3902 17 21 29 131 2 9 267.2 29.7

66 TE Cooley,Chris WAS 0 0 0 52 685 6 0 156.5 28.0

67 WR Booker,Marty MIA 3 19 0 51 701 6 0 159 27.6

68 RB Dunn,Warrick ATL 267 1082 4 19 153 0 0 166.5 27.0

69 RB McGahee,Willis BUF 248 967 6 18 156 0 1 166.3 26.8

70 WR Moss,Santana WAS 7 82 0 49 687 5 0 155.9 24.5

71 RB Dillon,Corey NE 187 745 11 13 88 0 2 162.3 22.8

72 WR Chambers,Chris MIA 7 88 0 56 638 4 0 152.6 21.2

73 QB Brady,Tom NE 3308 23 12 48 103 0 4 255.7 18.2

74 WR Mason,Derrick BAL 0 0 0 63 720 2 0 147 15.6

75 TE Clark,Desmond CHI 0 0 0 45 626 6 0 143.6 15.1

76 WR Branch,Deion SEA 4 30 0 50 687 4 0 145.7 14.3

77 RB Jones,Julius DAL 257 1057 4 9 142 0 1 152.9 13.4

78 WR Kennison,Eddie KC 4 16 0 47 716 4 0 144.2 12.8

79 TE Smith,L.J. PHI 0 0 0 50 611 5 0 141.1 12.6

80 RB Rhodes,Dominic IND 178 599 5 36 251 0 3 151 11.5

81 WR Stallworth,Donte' PHI 0 0 0 38 725 5 0 140.5 9.1

82 WR Battle,Arnaz SF 4 21 0 55 630 3 2 138.1 6.7

83 WR Caldwell,Reche NE 1 5 0 57 626 3 2 138.1 6.7

84 TE Witten,Jason DAL 0 0 0 60 692 1 0 135.2 6.7

85 WR Welker,Wes MIA 0 0 0 64 664 1 1 136.4 5.0

86 RB Maroney,Laurence NE 162 672 5 20 198 1 1 143 3.5

87 WR Henderson,Devery NO 2 14 1 30 674 5 0 134.8 3.4

88 TE Watson,Ben NE 0 0 0 49 645 3 1 131.5 3.0

89 QB Favre,Brett GB 3600 17 17 24 28 1 5 239.8 2.3

90 QB McNabb,Donovan PHI 2647 18 6 32 212 3 2 237.55 0.0

91 RB Bell,Tatum DEN 221 977 2 21 88 0 4 139.5 0.0

92 WR Curry,Ronald OAK 1 4 0 57 680 1 0 131.4 0.0

93 TE McMichael,Randy MIA 0 0 0 58 585 2 0 128.5 0.0

94 WR Bryant,Antonio SF 0 0 0 40 733 3 0 131.3 -0.1

95 RB Bell,Mike DEN 146 611 8 17 124 0 0 138.5 -1.0

96 RB Foster,De'shaun CAR 208 818 2 29 147 0 2 137.5 -2.0

97 WR Horn,Joe NO 0 0 0 37 679 4 0 128.9 -2.5

98 QB Rivers,Philip SD 3156 20 8 46 51 0 2 234.9 -2.7

99 WR Henry,Chris CIN 0 0 0 32 481 8 0 128.1 -3.3

100 QB Manning,Eli NYG 3143 23 18 22 23 0 2 233.45 -4.1