A total of 14 padded practices under new CBA? (1 Viewer)

[JuSt CuZ]

Story from PFT...

The parties have agreed that, during the 17-week regular season, teams will conduct only 14 practices in pads.

Let’s repeat that. During the 17-week regular season, teams will have a maximum of only 14 padded practices.

More specifically, teams can have 11 padded practices during the first 11 weeks of the season, with two padded practices permitted in a given week only once. Then, for the final six weeks of the season, a total of three padded practices may be conducted.

Also, teams will be permitted to have one practice in pads per week during the postseason.

This portion of the summary regarding in-season practices contains one more open issue we didn’t previously noticed. The players wants five straight days off during the bye week; it’s not known whether the league included that provision in the labor deal that was approved Thursday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/23/in-season-padded-practices-plummet-under-new-cba/

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I was under the impression that almost every single team practiced "pad-less" during the actual season--meaning, in shells or with no contact.

Why do you think tackling is so poor at the pro level of a sport predicated upon physical contact? Because players almost NEVER practice it "live" once they're pros.

 

[Bri]

Story from PFT...

The parties have agreed that, during the 17-week regular season, teams will conduct only 14 practices in pads.

Let's repeat that. During the 17-week regular season, teams will have a maximum of only 14 padded practices.

More specifically, teams can have 11 padded practices during the first 11 weeks of the season, with two padded practices permitted in a given week only once. Then, for the final six weeks of the season, a total of three padded practices may be conducted.

Also, teams will be permitted to have one practice in pads per week during the postseason.

This portion of the summary regarding in-season practices contains one more open issue we didn't previously noticed. The players wants five straight days off during the bye week; it's not known whether the league included that provision in the labor deal that was approved Thursday.

http://profootballta...-under-new-cba/

As Conn said, things have been awful light as it is. I don't like their being a rule though. It almost defies all the toughness and hardwork thoughts that football players stir up.

 

[NBusiness]

Who cares. This means nothing at all to us as long as it pertains to every team. Let's play football give them what they want

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

This rule has a lot to do with the fact that everyone's realizing the damage regular NFL contact does to players' brains. It's not just the help-them-off-the-field collisions that cause problems - it's the routine banging. IIRC, virtually all retired NFL players whose brains have been examined after death show signs of CTE.

If you're interested in knowing more you can read about it here:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell

 

[Cookiemonster]

This rule has a lot to do with the fact that everyone's realizing the damage regular NFL contact does to players' brains. It's not just the help-them-off-the-field collisions that cause problems - it's the routine banging. IIRC, virtually all retired NFL players whose brains have been examined after death show signs of CTE.If you're interested in knowing more you can read about it here:http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell

Bingo. Ask competitive high divers about repeated impact. Or listen to a Leon Spinks interview.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Who cares. This means nothing at all to us as long as it pertains to every team. Let's play football give them what they want

Thats a percentage of less then one padded practice a week for the entire season, less then ONE. I am just playing devils advocate here.Now I dont want players getting hurt in practice, but people can get hurt it games just the same if they are not hitting and getting use to it. Maybe the lack of getting use to the hitting is causing some injuries. I believe football is a contact sport still, no? lolRemember I just posted the story, lol, I really dont mind how often they practice...I just want football.

 

[HellToupee]

This rule has a lot to do with the fact that everyone's realizing the damage regular NFL contact does to players' brains. It's not just the help-them-off-the-field collisions that cause problems - it's the routine banging. IIRC, virtually all retired NFL players whose brains have been examined after death show signs of CTE.If you're interested in knowing more you can read about it here:http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell

Bingo. Ask competitive high divers about repeated impact. Or listen to a Leon Spinks interview.

it starts in PW continues into HS then college and finally the NFL for the lucky fewPW has no monitoring system on hitting . I cringe when I think of the hitting drills we did the 9 yrs I coached PW and HS . LL baseball counts pitchs now but there is no guidelines for football

 

[Mike]

LL baseball counts pitchs now but there is no guidelines for football

That is a great point. Never thought about it in those terms.

 

[saintfool]

reading MMQB today and peter king mentions this. eric winston of the texans said the texans only had 17 padded practices last season. apparently, this is not a big deal for some teams. it is just surprising for many fans.

 

[zed2283]

And no more two-a-days, right?

The quality of the game has gotten worse as they've had fewer and fewer practices, contact, etc. This will just make it worse in that aspect (though hopefully better with regards to player health).

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Officially, there was never any limit to the amount of practices, even tho most had 17-19. However, 14 still seems pretty light to me, IMO.

 

[Doug B]

Now I dont want players getting hurt in practice, but people can get hurt it games just the same if they are not hitting and getting used to it. Maybe the lack of getting use to the hitting is causing some injuries. I believe football is a contact sport still, no? lol

This is where the average fan -- especially if they never played football past high school -- is going to get educated. There is no getting used to it -- teams could practice in pads four days a week, and all they'd have for their efforts is a phone book full of names on IR -- not a tougher, more physical team. Practicing physically, it's now pretty much accepted scientifically, gains a team nothing on the field. Many may disagree and wonder "why not?" ... but the scientists have the binders full of data. Most current NFL players know what's up, and are signing on to acceptance of the science behind repetitive "low-level" collisions and the effects on the body.The mentality of "go super-physical at all times until you break down" is dying out quickly in the NFL. Bart Scott can pump himself up now, but he and others that agree with hom will retire eventually. Fast-forward 20 years, and the sport could well look quite a bit different than it does today.

 

[Doug B]

And no more two-a-days, right? The quality of the game has gotten worse as they've had fewer and fewer practices, contact, etc. This will just make it worse in that aspect (though hopefully better with regards to player health).

In some ways, such as tackling efficiency, you're probably right. However, consider the flip side from the NFL's marketing point of view: offenses get a nice boost from defenders blowing open-field tackles. More scoring, more "cool plays", more interest from the new kind of casual fan (esp women) who can take or leave the vicious hitting. Great highlight from the 1980s --

, allowing Seattle's Marshawn Lynch a long rushing TD in the 2010 playoffs.

 

[zed2283]

And no more two-a-days, right? The quality of the game has gotten worse as they've had fewer and fewer practices, contact, etc. This will just make it worse in that aspect (though hopefully better with regards to player health).

In some ways, such as tackling efficiency, you're probably right. However, consider the flip side from the NFL's marketing point of view: offenses get a nice boost from defenders blowing open-field tackles. More scoring, more "cool plays", more interest from the new kind of casual fan (esp women) who can take or leave the vicious hitting. Great highlight from the 1980s --

Well apparently unlike the casual fan, I am interested in watching quality football. And IMO that is something that has been lacking over the last 10 years.

 

[Mario Kart]

I am all for the health of the players, mentally and physically. The rules in the last 10 years for QB's have been made to rarely knock a QB out because the QB's are seen as assets for the overall play of the game, team, fans, and so forth. Newer rules regarding health are going to treat all positions similar to QB's. Not saying they will ever go flag football or anything that drastic but fewer hits are going to be seen.

Peyton Manning is seen as "weak" because he slides or runs out of bounds or throws the ball away before a hit. Manning is protecting himself, the asset, because his value lessens with every hit, concussion, games missed and so on. Many players will adopt this type of play however many will also take advantage of fewer hits by trying to stretch a yard or two into a touchdown. Then, defenders will get fined and penalized. Defense is going to get hurt the most.