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Aaron Brooks will be the #1 fantasy QB this year (1 Viewer)

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first of all, I am not a Raider fan nor do I own Brooks in any of my fantasy leagues

with that being said, I think that Brooks is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season in terms of production (passing yards/TDs).

I personally think that Brooks is a clown and will never become the type of QB that will lead a team to the playoffs and beyond, and he is largely responsible, and the main reason why the Saints always underachieved and were mediocre from year to year.

I see the wheels coming off early on the Raiders season and am predicting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,6, or possibly 7 wins for them. Early on I think Brooks will focus on personal stats rather than winning games, and he will get worse and worse about it as the Raiders stuggle to win games. I think the Raiders would be much better off starting from scratch and letting Andrew Walter take the reigns of this high powered offense

With Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan at his disposal, I think Brooks is going to put up some gaudy numbers and is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season, unless of course, your league deducts points for INTs, fumbles lost, etc/

I also believe that with the loss of Edgerrin James, the Colts will become too one dimensional, thus hurting Manning's numbers. Teams are going to get extra DBs on the field and force the Colts to use the ground game to beat them

Anyone else think Brooks is going to have a big big year in terms of fantasy production??

 
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Brooks is very unlikely to be the #1 QB in 2006. He's simply not consistent enough, and the team and offense in Oakland aren't noticably better than the team and offense he's had in New Orleans. Joe Horn has ranked as high as WR#3 overall in fantasy scoring (#2 in yardage), Deuce McAllister has been #6 and #7 RB (and caught 69 passes), yet the best Brooks has done is #5 overall in fantasy scoring, over 2 ppg behind the #1 QB. He gets a moderate upgrade in receiving corps, a significant downgrade at RB, and has to learn a new offense; that's not going to give him an extra 2 ppg over his best year.

I think Brooks has a good shot at being top-10, and could even be top-5 if the coaching changes turn out to be positive. But it seems foolish to predict him at #1.

 
I see the wheels coming off early on the Raiders season and am predicting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,6, or possibly 7 wins for them. Early on I think Brooks will focus on personal stats rather than winning games, and he will get worse and worse about it as the Raiders stuggle to win games.
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So why do you think the Raiders stick with him for 16 games?
 
My prediction: Brooks wins the startng job, plays horribly gets benched 5-6 games in. Raiders name Walter starter remainder of year. Starts off OK, seems to be an improvement from Brooks. Walter doesn't show enough improvement and in fact slumps late in the year. Raiders bring in big name free agent QB or high draft pick in 07. Brooks is cut. Walter is the backup next year.

So in a nutshell, no I don't see Brooks being the #1 QB. I see him being middle of the pack when he does start, but I expect him to lose his job a number of games in.

 
It's possible.
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I agree. I don't think it'll happen, but...

Moss/Porter/Gabriel/Curry is the best group of 4 WRs in the league by a fair margin IMO.

He'll have plenty of weapons...

 
first of all, I am not a Raider fan nor do I own Brooks in any of my fantasy leagues

with that being said, I think that Brooks is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season in terms of production (passing yards/TDs).

I personally think that Brooks is a clown and will never become the type of QB that will lead a team to the playoffs and beyond, and he is largely responsible, and the main reason why the Saints always underachieved and were mediocre from year to year.

I see the wheels coming off early on the Raiders season and am predicting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,6, or possibly 7 wins for them. Early on I think Brooks will focus on personal stats rather than winning games, and he will get worse and worse about it as the Raiders stuggle to win games. I think the Raiders would be much better off starting from scratch and letting Andrew Walter take the reigns of this high powered offense

With Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan at his disposal, I think Brooks is going to put up some gaudy numbers and is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season, unless of course, your league deducts points for INTs, fumbles lost, etc/

I also believe that with the loss of Edgerrin James, the Colts will become too one dimensional, thus hurting Manning's numbers. Teams are going to get extra DBs on the field and force the Colts to use the ground game to beat them

Anyone else think Brooks is going to have a big big year in terms of fantasy production??
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Only problem is that the more Raiders suck, the more Brooks puts up great stats, but also the decreasing likelyhood he finishes the season.
 
He's simply not consistent enough, and the team and offense in Oakland aren't noticably better than the team and offense he's had in New Orleans.
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Not consistent. He's one of the "most" consistent fantasy QBs there is. Moss > Horn; Porter > Stallworth; Jordan = McCallisterHmmm, Brooks should be top 5 - #1 is a stretch.
 
Before last season, him and peyton were the only QBs to have 4 straight seasons of 3000 or 3500?? passing yards and at least 20tds.

 
Is everyone forgetting that with Randy Moss, worse QBs than Brooks have been made to look amazing? That't no fluke.
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Like, uh, Kerry Collins? (#9 QB in 2005, over 4 ppg behind #1).
 
If Mike Martz had landed in Oakland, this would have gone from a pipe dream to in the realm of possibility.

There are too many variables that make the odds pretty remote. IMO, Shell in the past has run a run-focused or at the least a more balanced offense. In 6 seasons, the highest the Raiders ranked in passing attempts was 18th and most years they were in the bottom 20s.

Next, there has been a lot of talk if Brooks gets the starting gig let alone keeps it. If the Raiders look to be out of the playoff hunt, the team could easily stick Walters in instead.

Next, Brooks would have to perform a decent amount better than he ever did in the past in terms of total production to vault to the top of the QB food chain.

It's not totally out of the question, but he would have to do leaps and bounds better in Oakland than in N.O. while many other QB would have to do worse than expected.

 
One thing's for sure, we'll see how important an OC is in the scheme of things. The Raiders' guy was running a bed and breakfast last year. :X

 
Last year you would have been called crazy for saying Palmer would finish as the #1QB.

I don't think this is very far-fetched at all.

 
Last year you would have been called crazy for saying Palmer would finish as the #1QB.

I don't think this is very far-fetched at all.
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I guess that makes me crazy, as that's what I said about Palmer last year.
 
I have Oak w/the easiest Passing schedule and the 2nd toughest Rushing schedule

(see my SOS in the "bye week peril" thread).

That being said I don't think he will start 8 games. Just MHO.

 
brooks will be a steal..................if moss plays this year.culpepper was bad with out him and one of the best with him.brooks has the talent of cpep, but is moss the same wr anymore?Most guys here wont here you out but if moss plays anywere near the way he use to brooks will be great.

im a saints fan and brooks was bad as a leader a nfl qb and on on on on ...............but he put up stats till last year.

brooks= :thumbup:

 
first of all, I am not a Raider fan nor do I own Brooks in any of my fantasy leagues

with that being said, I think that Brooks is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season in terms of production (passing yards/TDs).

I personally think that Brooks is a clown and will never become the type of QB that will lead a team to the playoffs and beyond, and he is largely responsible, and the main reason why the Saints always underachieved and were mediocre from year to year.

I see the wheels coming off early on the Raiders season and am predicting somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,6, or possibly 7 wins for them. Early on I think Brooks will focus on personal stats rather than winning games, and he will get worse and worse about it as the Raiders stuggle to win games. I think the Raiders would be much better off starting from scratch and letting Andrew Walter take the reigns of this high powered offense

With Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan at his disposal, I think Brooks is going to put up some gaudy numbers and is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season, unless of course, your league deducts points for INTs, fumbles lost, etc/

I also believe that with the loss of Edgerrin James, the Colts will become too one dimensional, thus hurting Manning's numbers. Teams are going to get extra DBs on the field and force the Colts to use the ground game to beat them

Anyone else think Brooks is going to have a big big year in terms of fantasy production??
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There are 33 replies to this thread, so I'm sure you've been told how big of an idiot you are at least that many times.Run. Run before the spirits of angry Brooks owners past catch up with ye.

YARrrrrrrggh (yes I just got back from the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie and am intoxicated).

:banned:

How come you can't even give me any pretty stats to look at at least?

 
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Brooks is as likely to disappoint as anyone in a Raiders uniform. He's quite inconsistent. I doubt he'll be a top-20 QB even with those receivers because he throws so many picks and has so many fumbles.

The only way Brooks can do well would be if he were used like Plummer last year, and mostly relies on the run game, but sometimes throws short dink-and-dunk passes that wind up for long gains and TDs in the hands of his receivers.

I think Jordan is an upgrade as a pass-catcher compared to McAllister, even if Deuce was a better true featured back. Jordan is a dual threat.

I think Brooks' success has a lot to do with how successful the Raiders are at stopping other teams. If they can't do it, then Brooks will spend a lot of time on the field and he'll throw many picks.

Brooks has to learn a new offense and deal with a new coach, which might be an issue.

He used to have a shot at top-10 when he ran the ball, but like McNabb he doesn't do it much anymore. No shot at cracking it with those extra yards. Also means he'll have to pass more. Ugh.

Let someone else take "Martin," and they can deal with it.

 
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I definately don't see Brooks as the #1 FF QB in any league that penalizes QB mistakes ... Brooks is very prone to making bad judgement calls and several mistakes ... but he does have one of the better long ball arms in the NFL and with the receiving corp he's going to have and the fact that Jordan is such a terrific pass catching RB I see no reason whatever that Brooks won't far outplay his ADP (107, QB17)

You can draft him in the middle rounds of most drafts, 7-8th round and back him up with another late round QB ... but be sure to get his handcuff Walter in case Shell looses his patience.

I think in the situation that Brooks is in your looking at a potential SOD type guy who could vault himself into the top 5-8 at his position this season, but as with any late round draft selection you make in the skill position catagory your opening yourself up to risk ... buyer beware!, so be sure to get a good, consistant QB2 later in the draft.

:football:

 
I definately don't see Brooks as the #1 FF QB in any league that penalizes QB mistakes ... Brooks is very prone to making bad judgement calls and several mistakes ... but he does have one of the better long ball arms in the NFL and with the receiving corp he's going to have and the fact that Jordan is such a terrific pass catching RB I see no reason whatever that Brooks won't far outplay his ADP (107, QB17)

You can draft him in the middle rounds of most drafts, 7-8th round and back him up with another late round QB ... but be sure to get his handcuff Walter in case Shell looses his patience.

I think in the situation that Brooks is in your looking at a potential SOD type guy who could vault himself into the top 5-8 at his position this season, but as with any late round draft selection you make in the skill position catagory your opening yourself up to risk ... buyer beware!, so be sure to get a good, consistant QB2 later in the draft.

:football:
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When you look at Brooks do you fear the health of Moss? Cause I don't see Moss as that durable, and Brooks without Moss doesn't strike me as nearly as exciting.
 
2006 Aaron Brooks = 2005 Kerry Collins

There was alot of hype last year in how great Collins would do for the Raiders with many of the same reasons Brooks should do well.

I see Brooks falling in the 10 - 15 range with a healthy Moss. #1 is a far stretch for Brooks. Although he was Top 8 most seasons played, his numbers declined over the last three.

:2cents:

 
Is everyone forgetting that with Randy Moss, worse QBs than Brooks have been made to look amazing? That't no fluke.
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Like, uh, Kerry Collins? (#9 QB in 2005, over 4 ppg behind #1).
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...and for the millionth time now, when Moss was healthy Collins wa doing very well. After Moss got hurt, now thats a different story....
 
...and for the millionth time now, when Moss was healthy Collins wa doing very well. After Moss got hurt, now thats a different story....
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Moss played 16 games in 2005. What makes you think he will return to 2003 form?
 
Brooks is very unlikely to be the #1 QB in 2006. He's simply not consistent enough, and the team and offense in Oakland aren't noticably better than the team and offense he's had in New Orleans. Joe Horn has ranked as high as WR#3 overall in fantasy scoring (#2 in yardage), Deuce McAllister has been #6 and #7 RB (and caught 69 passes), yet the best Brooks has done is #5 overall in fantasy scoring, over 2 ppg behind the #1 QB. He gets a moderate upgrade in receiving corps, a significant downgrade at RB, and has to learn a new offense; that's not going to give him an extra 2 ppg over his best year.

I think Brooks has a good shot at being top-10, and could even be top-5 if the coaching changes turn out to be positive. But it seems foolish to predict him at #1.
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:goodposting: Fairly close to my thinking.

I differ in that I do think that Moss, Porter, and the other talented WR's behind them is a huge upgrade over Horn and the underachievers he had in New Orleans. Really, look at it.... Moss vs. Horn? Seriously? Porter vs. Stallworth? Easy. Plus Oakland has depth at WR that NO could only wish for. McAllister has had injury problems to deal with over the last two years, missed a lot of time and what he did not miss was still being nagged. McAllister is the easy favorite over Jordan but you have to be on the field to help your QB.

With all that said, I think you will see Brooks numbers significantly increase over his numbers in New Orleans and could break the top 5. However.... #1 overall? I think that is still highly unlikely.

 
...and for the millionth time now, when Moss was healthy Collins wa doing very well. After Moss got hurt, now thats a different story....
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Moss played 16 games in 2005. What makes you think he will return to 2003 form?
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How many did he play healthy in 2005? The only thing that has kept him form 2003 form is health. I don't even no why I bother with this anymore. It's been covered far too many times. I'll just chalk you up to one of the people predicting an injury to Moss this year. Fair enough?
 
With Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan at his disposal, I think Brooks is going to put up some gaudy numbers and is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season, unless of course, your league deducts points for INTs, fumbles lost, etc/
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Sub in Donte Stallworth, Joe Horn, and Deuce McAllister (a reasonably comparable trio) and he was only a weak #1/solid #2 fantasy QB. I doubt the upgrade from Horn to Moss (assuming Porter = Stallworth and Deuce = Jordan) will make much of an impact. I think the only way Brooks finishes above the #7 or #8 position is if he commits himself to being more of a student of the game. A change of scenery will be nice, but not enough to catapult him to one of the top QB spots.
 
With Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan at his disposal, I think Brooks is going to put up some gaudy numbers and is going to be the #1 fantasy QB this season, unless of course, your league deducts points for INTs, fumbles lost, etc/
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Sub in Donte Stallworth, Joe Horn, and Deuce McAllister (a reasonably comparable trio) and he was only a weak #1/solid #2 fantasy QB. I doubt the upgrade from Horn to Moss (assuming Porter = Stallworth and Deuce = Jordan) will make much of an impact. I think the only way Brooks finishes above the #7 or #8 position is if he commits himself to being more of a student of the game. A change of scenery will be nice, but not enough to catapult him to one of the top QB spots.
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I would say that Porter and Jordan are comparable to Stallworth and McAlister. Moss however is lightyears better than Horn and can do far more for a QB so long as healthy. Hell with Moss healthy KC did not throw a single INT. That my friend is incredible!
 
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