Aaron Rodgers = Bust? (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

I liked Rodgers a fair amount last year and thought he was the best QB available in the draft. I've seen a lot people around here refer to him as a "bust" or a "disappointment" and I'm curious if there is actually a single credible story suggesting that the Packers are unhappy with him.

I realize that the team considered Leinart and Young, but that doesn't do a whole lot to convince me that Rodgers is a flop. As far as I can tell, people are burying a guy who hasn't started a single game on the basis of a handful of flimsy whispers. That doesn't mean Rodgers won't ultimately be a flop, but it sure looks like rumors of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

 

[Bri]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

 

[CalBear]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't think anything's amiss. If they graded out Lienart as better than Rodgers (which seems reasonable), and they realized they'd be in a position to draft Leinart (as they were), it only makes sense to try to shop Rodgers around; if they could have gotten a first-round pick for him (recover sunk cost), they should have shipped him off and taken Leinart at their opportunity.He's not going to play until Favre leaves or gets injured, so the fact that he hasn't played doesn't mean anything.

 

[Imedos]

Regardless of how well his talent translates to the NFL, I don't like his situation there anymore.

No stud wr1.

Gimpy Ahman.

So-so wrs.

So-so coaches.

So-so OL.

Will be forever in Favre's shadow(remember Griese?, okay that's a small concern, but still).

Doesn't look like a formula for success anytime soon.

I wouldn't label him as a bust though. Has to get some playing time before he can be labeled as such.

 

[trader jake]

during the draft william henderson stated that rodgers was "slow with his progressions". of course this applies to most rookie QB's i suppose

in the one game where rodgers received extensive action (monday night blowout at baltimore) he looked fine to me. i remember hearing these same whispers about daunte culpepper after his first year too

rodgers is a tedford QB - that's the only "issue" i have with him right now

 

[redman]

I feel confident that with Brett Favre mentoring him, he'll turn out great.

 

[cstu]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

 

[cstu]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady? It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

"It's not my responsibility to tutor this young man. No one did that for me."

C'mon, you're going stick up for Favre on THAT? Seriously, that was probably the most arrogant thing he's done. This is a team that he knows is going to be in trouble when he leaves and he was intimidated by a rookie QB who slid to the end of the 1st round? It's not his job, but for the sake of the organization he should put aside his ego and try to help him instead of feeling threatened. It's not like he's ever going to get benched for him.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And if you knew anything about the Packers, the NFL, and the media that follows the league they all acknowledged Favre's comments were taken out of context.You Favre haters are pathetic.

 

[Sabertooth]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you have any links to credible sources on these claims?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

 

[cstu]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

 

[reg]

Is this where we discuss Farve's retirement press conferences?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll take what I heard from inside the team from what you seem to know from reading the paper.The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Is this where we discuss Farve's retirement press conferences?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why not, the haters will chime in.

 

[ChampBailey24]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll take what I heard from inside the team from what you seem to know from reading the paper.The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

He's not saying it's Favre's fault. He never said that. He just said that it was really arrogant from Favre to say such things as : "It's not mt job to mentor him. No one mentored me so why should I mentor him?". Learn to read.I still respected Favre even when he wasn't sure if he'd be coming back and I didn't like Favre haters but wow... for Favre.

 

[Despyzer]

If you guys would stop responding to Flawed, it would be so much easier for me to ignore him.

TIA

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll take what I heard from inside the team from what you seem to know from reading the paper.The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

He's not saying it's Favre's fault. He never said that. He just said that it was really arrogant from Favre to say such things as : "It's not mt job to mentor him. No one mentored me so why should I mentor him?". Learn to read.I still respected Favre even when he wasn't sure if he'd be coming back and I didn't like Favre haters but wow... for Favre.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Here is his quote...Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.

Did the kid have a chance? Well it appears it Favre's fault.

Please, you Favre haters really have to give it a rest.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

If you guys would stop responding to Flawed, it would be so much easier for me to ignore him.

TIA

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why?How did a Rodgers thread bring some of the ususal Favre hating tools into this.

You Favre hating tools need to join up with the Manning haters and ask Joe for your own forum.

 

[fatness]

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

When Brett Favre has a bowel movement ---- you know, when he "makes poo-poo" ---- does it stink?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I see Fatness is squatting up for a Favre bashing reply.

 

[cstu]

If you guys would stop responding to Flawed, it would be so much easier for me to ignore him.

TIA

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You're welcome.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

When Brett Favre has a bowel movement ---- you know, when he "makes poo-poo" ---- does it stink?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Put your finger in your diaper and you should know.

 

[Big Score]

Well this thread got destroyed quick. :(

 

[Big Score]

Oh!

I don't think enough has been seen of Rodgers for him to have earned the "bust" label.

 

[Jous]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

"It's not my responsibility to tutor this young man. No one did that for me."

C'mon, you're going stick up for Favre on THAT? Seriously, that was probably the most arrogant thing he's done. This is a team that he knows is going to be in trouble when he leaves and he was intimidated by a rookie QB who slid to the end of the 1st round? It's not his job, but for the sake of the organization he should put aside his ego and try to help him instead of feeling threatened. It's not like he's ever going to get benched for him.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just to throw my opinion out there on this....I didn't take that quote as a negative quote by Favre at all.Favre meant that he didn't really need to mentor Rodgers because nobody did it for Favre, and it looks like Brett Favre turned out just fine. HOF QB fine, nonetheless. I took that quote as Favre saying that "veteran QB mentoring" is overrated and that young QB's should learn to play their own game....I didn't interpret it as him being too arrogant to help Rodgers.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Well this thread got destroyed quick. :(

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

By your fellow Favre haters.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

"It's not my responsibility to tutor this young man. No one did that for me."

C'mon, you're going stick up for Favre on THAT? Seriously, that was probably the most arrogant thing he's done. This is a team that he knows is going to be in trouble when he leaves and he was intimidated by a rookie QB who slid to the end of the 1st round? It's not his job, but for the sake of the organization he should put aside his ego and try to help him instead of feeling threatened. It's not like he's ever going to get benched for him.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just to throw my opinion out there on this....I didn't take that quote as a negative quote by Favre at all.Favre meant that he didn't really need to mentor Rodgers because nobody did it for Favre, and it looks like Brett Favre turned out just fine. HOF QB fine, nonetheless. I took that quote as Favre saying that "veteran QB mentoring" is overrated and that young QB's should learn to play their own game....I didn't interpret it as him being too arrogant to help Rodgers.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

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Ahhh...Bliss

 

[Sabertooth]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

no?

 

[Boston]

It's way to early call him a bust. There's no way you can make that big of a claim after one year. That being said this guy has not looked good since the Cal-Texas Tech bowl debacle (that was ugly). He didn't have much of an opportunity to show his stuff last year but I don't get the impression the Pack are convinced he's their QB of the future. He's a guy who will have a lot eyes on him during the exhibition season. I'm sure the Pack hopes he shows he's more comfortable with the NFL game once camp starts. If he can settle in it would really help Green Bay's future knowing they have a young QB ready to go after Favre retires.

 

[Assani Fisher]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

"It's not my responsibility to tutor this young man. No one did that for me."

C'mon, you're going stick up for Favre on THAT? Seriously, that was probably the most arrogant thing he's done. This is a team that he knows is going to be in trouble when he leaves and he was intimidated by a rookie QB who slid to the end of the 1st round? It's not his job, but for the sake of the organization he should put aside his ego and try to help him instead of feeling threatened. It's not like he's ever going to get benched for him.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And if you knew anything about the Packers, the NFL, and the media that follows the league they all acknowledged Favre's comments were taken out of context.You Favre haters are pathetic.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Maybe giving us the context it occured and explaing what you think he was really trying to say would help then.

 

[Big Score]

Is this where we discuss Farve's retirement press conferences?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, but Favre will be holding a press conference for something tomorrow though.

Packers | Favre to hold press conference

Fri, 5 May 2006 19:14:10 -0700

Internet Broadcasting Systems reports Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre announced he will hold a news conference in the Lambeau Field Media Auditorium after the team's morning practice Saturday, May 6.

 

[Bri]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Bledsoe helped Brady some

 

[Bri]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't think anything's amiss. If they graded out Lienart as better than Rodgers (which seems reasonable), and they realized they'd be in a position to draft Leinart (as they were), it only makes sense to try to shop Rodgers around; if they could have gotten a first-round pick for him (recover sunk cost), they should have shipped him off and taken Leinart at their opportunity.He's not going to play until Favre leaves or gets injured, so the fact that he hasn't played doesn't mean anything.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Leinart supposedly would have been the #1 pick last year so I don't really think we're disagreeing so much here

 

[Bri]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you have any links to credible sources on these claims?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

NFLEurope, thread posted here by me and another person or two(2-3 threads)Re:them shopping him, no link just people I know "word of mouth". I haven't been the only one to say they heard this either.

 

[Big Score]

Re:them shopping him, no link just people I know "word of mouth". I haven't been the only one to say they heard this either.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This is the first I've heard mention of it. Thanx for the info Bri.

 

[Bri]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

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Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
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You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

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Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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So you know exactly what has taken place in practice and meetings to think that Favre hasn't given Rodgers any advice or assistance?

 

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No doubt!

 

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they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

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Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
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You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

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Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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So you know exactly what has taken place in practice and meetings to think that Favre hasn't given Rodgers any advice or assistance?
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No but I remember all that. Not sure if it was a TV interview or an article or both but it was "straight from the horses mouth" as Favre said it. I could try and find it via google if you'd like

 

[djcolts]

If you guys would stop responding to Flawed, it would be so much easier for me to ignore him.

TIA

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Why?How did a Rodgers thread bring some of the ususal Favre hating tools into this.

You Favre hating tools need to join up with the Manning haters and ask Joe for your own forum.

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Add the Vick haters and I think this is a good idea. Will make read the Shark Pool more pleasant.

 

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If you guys would stop responding to Flawed, it would be so much easier for me to ignore him.

TIA

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Why?How did a Rodgers thread bring some of the ususal Favre hating tools into this.

You Favre hating tools need to join up with the Manning haters and ask Joe for your own forum.

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Add the Vick haters and I think this is a good idea. Will make read the Shark Pool more pleasant.
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The pissing poolWhat happened to the sign saying "no pissing in the shark pool"?

 

[Perfect Tommy]

they shopped him hard and wanted too much for him around draft time. They've talked about him playing in NFLE next year.

The GB offense is complex. They have the luxury of Favre having been there "forever" and adding a few new wrinkles every year. It could be the staff's fault, it's not uncommon to have to simply an O for a young QB.

Something's amiss there though

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Did the kid ever have a chance? Favre immediately said it wasn't his job to mentor him. I thought he was far from ready for the NFL so another year on the bench will do him good - assuming Favre is willing to put down his ego and try to help the guy become a decent QB.
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You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out and his responsibility to develop QBs? By the way, go back to what Favre stated about Rodgers and most experts have stated it was taken out of context.

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Hey Flawed, rough day? deep breaths man, deep breaths.It's NOT Favre's responsibility to mentor/tutor Rodgers but IMO it's a natural progression in the game when a player gets old and the new young guy comes in. Favre's not disillusionned thinking he'll play forever. Why not work with the young guy and continue the franchise's good fortune?(not so much recent good fortune but they won for a change with him) I think it's cruddy of him not to but it doesn't make m think he's evil or a bad player etc. Not everyone agrees with all my decisions either so...

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So you know exactly what has taken place in practice and meetings to think that Favre hasn't given Rodgers any advice or assistance?
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No but I remember all that. Not sure if it was a TV interview or an article or both but it was "straight from the horses mouth" as Favre said it. I could try and find it via google if you'd like
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I remember the interview. The context of the comment was that the Packers have a QB coach to mentor Rodgers. Favre has to get ready to play himself each week. But Favre is happy to answer any questions or topic about quarterbacking that Rodgers cares to bring up with him. It is simply another case of the legend that Favre is being completely honest and people choosing to take his words out of context and hate on him again. It in fact would have been terribly arrogant for Favre to claim to be Rodger's mentor when it is Darrell Bevell that is watching every throw, every practice, telling him what to look for with every play. And if there is one thing that Favre is never guilty of, it is arrogance.

 

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By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

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I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

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Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

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I'll take what I heard from inside the team from what you seem to know from reading the paper.The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

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That's no way to argue, son!

Yeah, let's go with your unnamed source who I'm sure you're going to tell us was in all the QB meetings with these guys as opposed to direct quotes from both guys.

What position did your source play? Was he even an offensive player?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

By the way, do you recall how much Bledose helped Brady?  It wasn't his responsibility and eventually cost him his job, but he did the classy thing and what was good for the team.

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I have a good friend that was with the Patriots at that time, and trust me the last thing Bledsoe did was mentor Tom.

You are pathetic!

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Right... http://www.absolutebrady.com/Articles/CNNSI040902.html

CNNSI.com: You write about how the friendship between Brady and Drew Bledsoe grew "awkward" last season. How tough was that on Brady?

Silver: Bledsoe, Brady and three teammates went to one of the American League Championship Series games in New York last October. They took a limo-bus down there, got great seats. At that point, they were hanging out. It was getting to the point where everybody knew Bledsoe would be healthy soon and it was going to become an issue. They had a private conversation at that game, and Brady said to him, "No matter what happens and what positions we get put in, I want you to know how I really feel about you. I want you to know that I think you're great player and you've been a great mentor." Brady recalls Bledsoe saying, "If you can, do one thing for me: Don't do me any favors. Try to kick my ###. It would be an insult to me not to. The best thing you can do is to try to be better than me every day." Was everything perfect between them from that point on? No. But they genuinely do like each other. Each genuinely believes that he's the guy to lead the team, which can't happen. I just think it was nice that Bledsoe could directly contribute to the Super Bowl win by playing so well in Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game. But I believe that will prove to be his last game for the Patriots. And I think he's eager to explore all his options.

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I'll take what I heard from inside the team from what you seem to know from reading the paper.The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

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That's no way to argue, son!

Yeah, let's go with your unnamed source who I'm sure you're going to tell us was in all the QB meetings with these guys as opposed to direct quotes from both guys.

What position did your source play? Was he even an offensive player?

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William Henderson was very supportive of how Favre conducts himself in practice.Honestly, it is just pathetic that a thread about Rodgers brought out the Favre haters and they blame Favre for Rodgers development. I hope you guys get some professional help.

 

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You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out  and his responsibility to develop QBs?

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You Favre haters are pathetic.

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You are pathetic!

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The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

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Why not, the haters will chime in.

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Please, you Favre haters really have to give it a rest. 

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I hope you guys get some professional help.

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You are completely clueless and pathetic with your Favre bashing. So now it is Favre's fault Rodgers may not turn out  and his responsibility to develop QBs?

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You Favre haters are pathetic.

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You are pathetic!

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The fact you want to blame Favre for Rodgers development is pathetic and shows you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

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Why not, the haters will chime in.

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Please, you Favre haters really have to give it a rest. 

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I hope you guys get some professional help.

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I'm telling you guys, this is what you do with that tool.

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Back on topic, I certainly am not willing to write Rodgers off as a bust, that would be silly. Having said that, it would be wise for those that own him in dynasty leagues to think about drafting Ingle Martin, even if you have to jump a bit.