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Michael Fox Fan
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Hodge flashed ability in training camp last year, but in the regular season he looked like a rookie. What most concerned me was his inability to play OLB. With Barnett in the middle for now, Hodge needs to improve his coverage skills so that he can get in the game on the strong side. Unless GB decides to move Barnett outside, Hodge will never have tremendous fantasy value.
trader jake
Footballguy
Hodge's inability to stay healthy was the biggest strike against him. When Barnett missed a game last year Hodge played MLB. He looked like a real player and put up a real nice stat line (including a TD) and Barnett is in the last year of his contract with the Packers this upcoming season. Hodge's value is directly tied to Barnett's status in Green Bay. As long as Barnett is with the Packers Hodge will not have any real fantasy value. If Barnett is traded or does not resign with the Pack after this season Hodge would see his value jump through the roof.I am a Barnett ANd Hodge Owner. I am hoping Barnet leaves to go start somewhere else giving Hodge the middle. In saying that I read before Hodge was drafted that whoever gets him once he becomes a full-time starter he will lead his team in tackles for the next 10 years.but in that one start Hodge did have a big game fantasy wise and he is SUPER fast but most of his tackles were 4 yards down field, Not good. and he did not shed blocks well at all (but I dont know him on that cause most present NFL LB's dont shed blcks well and need to be protected).
bcr8f
Footballguy
That's true and Barnett basically refused to go to strong. He will have to ve forced to go out there and that time hasn't come yet. Barnett thinks he'll cost himself a lot of money if he does it.Hodge's value is directly tied to Barnett's status in Green Bay. As long as Barnett is with the Packers Hodge will not have any real fantasy value. If Barnett is traded or does not resign with the Pack after this season Hodge would see his value jump through the roof.
That stat-line on Hodge is extremely misleading! He had a big play, which is nice, but looked terrible the rest of the game. He made below average reads and missed some tackles BADLY. Plus, Seattle ran a bunch, padding the stats. He fell to the 3rd round on concerns about his size, short arms and pass defense. He didn't do much in that game to disspell any of the three. I still believe he is a much better player than he showed that night, but hoping for more than an average-scoring 2-down role is asking a lot.
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
I thought he looked pretty weak against Seattle too. He missed a lot of tackles. Seattle had trouble running all year but didn't have any trouble that night.. Not all of that was Hodge but some of it definitely was..
chook
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bcr8f
Footballguy
He was on the practice field pretty much in the Inside Training Camp episode last night. He seemed to be running OK, but the knee is an issue.
dirtyhalos
capital letter hater!
no new news, but some mccarthy quotes on hodge...
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2007/08/09/1/
(What do you think of your backup linebackers?)
It's tough, Bishop has really jumped out at camp. Abdul is getting his legs back underneath him. I really like that group. Goodwell is doing a nice job. You have to be excited about Spencer Havner, the flexibility he shows, especially playing all three positions. Not to be redundant but the special teams work that they'll get will be very important as far as their ability to make this football team.
(Hodge was popular last year until he got hurt, are you seeing progress?)
I think he's done a very good job in the offseason, particularly from a mental standpoint. He's a very bright guy. He has a complete understanding of what we're doing, the base and the sub packages. I thought he did a nice job. He went out to Arizona after the OTAs and concentrated on his legs. He looks to be getting through the training camp part of it. I look to him to pick up where he left off last year.
http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2007/08/09/1/
(What do you think of your backup linebackers?)
It's tough, Bishop has really jumped out at camp. Abdul is getting his legs back underneath him. I really like that group. Goodwell is doing a nice job. You have to be excited about Spencer Havner, the flexibility he shows, especially playing all three positions. Not to be redundant but the special teams work that they'll get will be very important as far as their ability to make this football team.
(Hodge was popular last year until he got hurt, are you seeing progress?)
I think he's done a very good job in the offseason, particularly from a mental standpoint. He's a very bright guy. He has a complete understanding of what we're doing, the base and the sub packages. I thought he did a nice job. He went out to Arizona after the OTAs and concentrated on his legs. He looks to be getting through the training camp part of it. I look to him to pick up where he left off last year.
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
Well that is much more encouraging to hear. Let's see if he can keep it up.
chook
Footballguy
...yeah, riding the pine.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
If you have a big roster and are looking for someone worth stashing, Desmond Bishop has picked up Bob Sanders D quickly and it sounds to me like he could stay ahead of Hodge (mind you, I'm a Bishop fan this is fwiw). Just gleaning from a variety of sources it sounds like Bishop is making a statement, even in coverage. It also sounds like a fierce competition with Hodge going full speed and doing some heavy hitting... at least since the 5th. Bishop has spent five days above Hodge on the depth chart with both going full tilt. While practicing once a day for the last week, Hodge has remained behind Bishop. Both should see plenty of action Saturday, and if I know Desmond, someone is gettting jacked up.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Thanks for this info.
I grabbed him in a deep 16 teamer, and I'm not all that high on Hodge, so it makes sense.I don't own Hodge at all, but am a religious Packer fan so maybe my view will help here a bit, but don't take it too seriously, I am just a fan
From what I've seen from Hodge is an ability to identify the ball carrier and attack, forcefully. I think his biggest strength is finding the ball carrier and getting to him. This is why I agree that he will lead the team in tackles if he ever gets a chance to start in the middle.
What I would be worried about is the fact that he sorely lacks in pass coverage. I don't think he'll ever produce into a 3 down LB. But, with Barnett locked up for four more years, and Hawk likely being a career Packer I don't know if Hodge will ever be more than a backup/special teams guy. Fortunately for these types, they usually end up getting their shot somewhere else, but it takes 4 years before they become a FA.
On the other hand, I do believe that if Hodge were moved to the strong side, he would be pro bowl caliber. Like I said, the way he identifies the ball carrier and just attacks would make him very effective in that position. He also is very elusive when avoiding blockers imo, so that would add to his strenth in that position. Unfortunately for all of us IDPers and fans we don't get to make this decision so we'll see what happens.
Barnett still has a legal issue up in the air right now. I don't think he'll get a suspension, but you never know. Hodge may just get his shot yet this season, and if he can take advantage he may be able to bump Poppinga down the list.
From what I've seen from Hodge is an ability to identify the ball carrier and attack, forcefully. I think his biggest strength is finding the ball carrier and getting to him. This is why I agree that he will lead the team in tackles if he ever gets a chance to start in the middle.
What I would be worried about is the fact that he sorely lacks in pass coverage. I don't think he'll ever produce into a 3 down LB. But, with Barnett locked up for four more years, and Hawk likely being a career Packer I don't know if Hodge will ever be more than a backup/special teams guy. Fortunately for these types, they usually end up getting their shot somewhere else, but it takes 4 years before they become a FA.
On the other hand, I do believe that if Hodge were moved to the strong side, he would be pro bowl caliber. Like I said, the way he identifies the ball carrier and just attacks would make him very effective in that position. He also is very elusive when avoiding blockers imo, so that would add to his strenth in that position. Unfortunately for all of us IDPers and fans we don't get to make this decision so we'll see what happens.
Barnett still has a legal issue up in the air right now. I don't think he'll get a suspension, but you never know. Hodge may just get his shot yet this season, and if he can take advantage he may be able to bump Poppinga down the list.
jamny
Footballguy
Rotoworld:
Packers LB Abdul Hodge is in danger of being waived or placed on injured reserve due to ongoing tendinitis in his knee.
The once-promising third-round pick has fallen behind seventh-rounder Desmond Bishop and starter Nick Barnett at middle linebacker. Hodge had an excellent rookie camp, but hasn't made many big plays this time around.
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette
Packers LB Abdul Hodge is in danger of being waived or placed on injured reserve due to ongoing tendinitis in his knee.
The once-promising third-round pick has fallen behind seventh-rounder Desmond Bishop and starter Nick Barnett at middle linebacker. Hodge had an excellent rookie camp, but hasn't made many big plays this time around.
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Well Hodge played "before" Bishop tonight and from what I can tell he played well.
Rozelle
Moderator
Hodge is fighting for a roster spot.PFW
Don’t be shocked if the Packers pull the plug on second-year LB Abdul Hodge, whose nagging bout with tendinitis has made him a virtual non-factor so far this offseason.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I have discovered the PFW is not even close to a valid source of information based on the line item they had on the Bills OLine this week. Stating that Jason Whittle locked up the starting RG spot while Duke Preston has pushed Melvin Fowler out as the starting C.
When in reality, Fowler sat out the Falcons game with an injury and Preston was just moved over for a one game start. Reports out of Bills camp is that the coaches will be deciding on the Whittle/Preston competition at RG this week.
Sorry to throw that onto the IDP page, but it is just an exampe of how PFW isn't a good source for information. Especially when it comes from their "rumors page".
When in reality, Fowler sat out the Falcons game with an injury and Preston was just moved over for a one game start. Reports out of Bills camp is that the coaches will be deciding on the Whittle/Preston competition at RG this week.
Sorry to throw that onto the IDP page, but it is just an exampe of how PFW isn't a good source for information. Especially when it comes from their "rumors page".
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
I think it's telling that in all the time he missed, he started. He performed farely well too! The coaching staff might be frustrated w/ the nagging injuries, but they appear to value him or know what they have when he's healthy. If healthy, I think they ideallywant Barnett, Hodge and Hawk as their starting LB's with Barnett and Hawk playing in the nickle package.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I have never seen anything about Hodge that tells me he will ever be a starter. He just doesn't make plays, and he looks really slow.
Rozelle
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Me either AB. He was only going to be a 2 down backer at best anyway.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Bishop is very impressive. I think you nailed this one.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Hodge has been cut.
trader jake
Footballguy
He didn't look healthy this entire pre-season and didn't deserve to make the final 53. His fantasy hopes ended when the Packers resigned Nick Barnett anyway.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
He was put on IR, not cut.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Desmond Bishop is a lot better than Hodge will ever be.
