Adams tells Fisher to play Vince Young now (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

This will fix everything.

Who is claiming it will?

I see you missed the

Umm...obviously I caught the sarcasm that it won't really fix anything.But I don't see anyone in this thread, or in the organization claiming it will fix anything.Its not why they are doing it.

 

[Knobs]

Get Bo Scaife active.

I would think this is going to be the best option fantasy wise. No?

 

[pollardsvision]

It's funny that people keep putting these phrases together: (a) "Kerry Collins" and (b) "gives us a better chance to win".

It was only 3 years ago that Collins started off 0-3 and they brought in a rookie VY to save the season.

Neither of these QBs is very good. Neither gives them a much better chance to win than the other, imo. Who the Titans start at QB matters about as much who the Browns start.

 

[Phase of the Game]

This will fix everything.

Who is claiming it will?

I see you missed the

Umm...obviously I caught the sarcasm that it won't really fix anything.But I don't see anyone in this thread, or in the organization claiming it will fix anything.Its not why they are doing it.

Umm...then why did you post that?

 

[sho nuff]

This will fix everything.

Who is claiming it will?

I see you missed the

Umm...obviously I caught the sarcasm that it won't really fix anything.But I don't see anyone in this thread, or in the organization claiming it will fix anything.Its not why they are doing it.

Umm...then why did you post that?

Id say it is obvious...to ask him who he thinks is actually claiming it will help that caused him to post a sarcastic comment.

 

[bean]

If no one has fixed this yet, it is fixed now.Proven when Collins posted a better W-L record the following season with the same team.

Same team? CJ was a slight upgrade to Lendale and Chris Henry from the prior year.

 

[Phase of the Game]

Id say it is obvious...to ask him who he thinks is actually claiming it will help that caused him to post a sarcastic comment.

So basically you were trying to be a jerk to him.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

F-I-S-H-E-R

Thank you. That was driving me nuts.

 

[sho nuff]

Id say it is obvious...to ask him who he thinks is actually claiming it will help that caused him to post a sarcastic comment.

So basically you were trying to be a jerk to him.

No...basically, I was wondering who even implied that this would fix anything.But thanks for proving who is the one trying to be a jerk. Good to see your obsession with me is not just limited to topics involving Brett Favre.I asked a question about his post...you have gone on for several posts trying to bash me about it.Seriously...grow up.

 

[Nate]

Id say it is obvious...to ask him who he thinks is actually claiming it will help that caused him to post a sarcastic comment.

So basically you were trying to be a jerk to him.

Nah it was more me being a jerk, really. I know they're not putting in Young to fix anything, I was just poking some fun at the situation.

 

[sho nuff]

Id say it is obvious...to ask him who he thinks is actually claiming it will help that caused him to post a sarcastic comment.

So basically you were trying to be a jerk to him.

Nah it was more me being a jerk, really. I know they're not putting in Young to fix anything, I was just poking some fun at the situation.

I don't think you were being a jerk either. Was just questioning it.And sure...the Titans are definitely worth of being poked fun at right now.Only thing not funny about it is my season tickets have no value to be sold when I can't go to a game (like this weekend )

 

[Balance]

Chris Johnson's value just skyrocketed imo.

 

[Franknbeans]

Chris Johnson's value just skyrocketed imo.

as did Lendale's.The Titans are 6th in rushing yards per game and 9th in rushing yards per game allowed

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Chris Johnson's value just skyrocketed imo.

This...I've been waiting a long, long time to see these two in the same backfield together.

 

[brednbuddah]

Chris Johnson's value just skyrocketed imo.

as did Lendale's.The Titans are 6th in rushing yards per game and 9th in rushing yards per game allowed

LenDale is garbage this year.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Chris Johnson's value just skyrocketed imo.

This...I've been waiting a long, long time to see these two in the same backfield together.

Heh...Pretty nice game for CJ.

 

[BigJim®]

So where are we at now with Vince Young? Seemed to be a lot of sentiment earlier in the year that Fisher had determined he could not win with Young. That seems to have been dispelled. There was also sentiment there was no way in hades that the Titans would pay Young in 2010... I can't imagine them releasing him though with how he has played. How will this skake out over the offseason?

 

[Summer Wheat]

So where are we at now with Vince Young? Seemed to be a lot of sentiment earlier in the year that Fisher had determined he could not win with Young. That seems to have been dispelled. There was also sentiment there was no way in hades that the Titans would pay Young in 2010... I can't imagine them releasing him though with how he has played. How will this skake out over the offseason?

Not sure Young will get the payday he is looking for. Youngs achilles heel is when his team falls behind.

 

[TommyGilmore]

So where are we at now with Vince Young? Seemed to be a lot of sentiment earlier in the year that Fisher had determined he could not win with Young. That seems to have been dispelled. There was also sentiment there was no way in hades that the Titans would pay Young in 2010... I can't imagine them releasing him though with how he has played. How will this skake out over the offseason?

How could you not anoint Vince Young as your 2010 opening day starter?Leave the offense as-is and focus on fixing the defense. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but it's the most logical thing to do.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

So where are we at now with Vince Young? Seemed to be a lot of sentiment earlier in the year that Fisher had determined he could not win with Young. That seems to have been dispelled. There was also sentiment there was no way in hades that the Titans would pay Young in 2010... I can't imagine them releasing him though with how he has played. How will this skake out over the offseason?

Not sure Young will get the payday he is looking for. Youngs achilles heel is when his team falls behind.

I'm not so sure about that. He seemed to have a lot of come from behind wins.

 

[FUBAR]

So where are we at now with Vince Young? Seemed to be a lot of sentiment earlier in the year that Fisher had determined he could not win with Young. That seems to have been dispelled. There was also sentiment there was no way in hades that the Titans would pay Young in 2010... I can't imagine them releasing him though with how he has played. How will this skake out over the offseason?

Not sure Young will get the payday he is looking for. Youngs achilles heel is when his team falls behind.

I'm not so sure about that. He seemed to have a lot of come from behind wins.

Yes but what became even more obvious this year was VY will try to do too much if the Titans fall behind early. Sometimes his pushing leads to greatness but too often it leads to bad turnovers thus putting the team further in the hole. Chargers was the classic example, they might not have won even if he played perfectly (Bulluck and Thornton being out crushed) but he made some BAD decisions early. A lot of QBs do this, see Cutler and Favre, but it seems amplified with VY (or maybe I'm just a Titans fan). He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

 

[BigJim®]

He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

This makes no sense. He's already entitled to $14 million next year under the existing contract. How do you envision circumstances where he would not get that huge payday? Outright release? If so, he certainly won't be the Titans starter next year as you say he 'has to be.'

 

[FUBAR]

He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

This makes no sense. He's already entitled to $14 million next year under the existing contract. How do you envision circumstances where he would not get that huge payday? Outright release? If so, he certainly won't be the Titans starter next year as you say he 'has to be.'

I was thinking whether he'd get more than he's already entitled too, fair point on the current contract. He won't be released but it will be reworked. His bonus will be nice but his base salary won't be top 3.

 

[Mister CIA]

He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

This makes no sense. He's already entitled to $14 million next year under the existing contract. How do you envision circumstances where he would not get that huge payday? Outright release? If so, he certainly won't be the Titans starter next year as you say he 'has to be.'

I was thinking whether he'd get more than he's already entitled too, fair point on the current contract. He won't be released but it will be reworked. His bonus will be nice but his base salary won't be top 3.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, but I'm pretty sure Vince Young has the upper hand this off-season. There would be at least a dozen teams bidding for him were he released outright. If he is in fact due $14 mill next season, the only way his contract gets reworked is if it includes a lot (A LOT) of guaranteed salary. Considering all the money the team has saved at WR, I think they should just pay him and not think twice about it.

 

[BigJim®]

He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

This makes no sense. He's already entitled to $14 million next year under the existing contract. How do you envision circumstances where he would not get that huge payday? Outright release? If so, he certainly won't be the Titans starter next year as you say he 'has to be.'

I was thinking whether he'd get more than he's already entitled too, fair point on the current contract. He won't be released but it will be reworked. His bonus will be nice but his base salary won't be top 3.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, but I'm pretty sure Vince Young has the upper hand this off-season. There would be at least a dozen teams bidding for him were he released outright. If he is in fact due $14 mill next season, the only way his contract gets reworked is if it includes a lot (A LOT) of guaranteed salary. Considering all the money the team has saved at WR, I think they should just pay him and not think twice about it.

Yeah, I guess that is what I was thinking when I asked FUBAR to clarify. $14 mil is a ton of money for a single season. I don't remember a single person who thought it possible the Titans would keep him in 2010 at that cost. However, it's one thing to say the contract will be reworked, but what would motivate Young to agree to less money?

 

[msommer]

He has to be the starting QB in 2010 but I wouldn't expect a huge payday. Incentive laden perhaps. They must work on the D overall - DL aside from KVB needs improvement, OLBs are getting old and secondary depth. The offense, as weird as it sounds, is mostly in good shape right now especially if Cook comes on like I suspect he will.

This makes no sense. He's already entitled to $14 million next year under the existing contract. How do you envision circumstances where he would not get that huge payday? Outright release? If so, he certainly won't be the Titans starter next year as you say he 'has to be.'

I was thinking whether he'd get more than he's already entitled too, fair point on the current contract. He won't be released but it will be reworked. His bonus will be nice but his base salary won't be top 3.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, but I'm pretty sure Vince Young has the upper hand this off-season. There would be at least a dozen teams bidding for him were he released outright. If he is in fact due $14 mill next season, the only way his contract gets reworked is if it includes a lot (A LOT) of guaranteed salary. Considering all the money the team has saved at WR, I think they should just pay him and not think twice about it.

Yeah, I guess that is what I was thinking when I asked FUBAR to clarify. $14 mil is a ton of money for a single season. I don't remember a single person who thought it possible the Titans would keep him in 2010 at that cost. However, it's one thing to say the contract will be reworked, but what would motivate Young to agree to less money?

A long contract with a (larger) signing bonus might.