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[Raider Nation]

I was browsing Toby's thread after he was drafted. Most people had a "ho-hum" reaction.

I'm not so sure.

Peterson's fumbling issues are well documented. Gerhart really isn't a special receiver or anything, which makes me think that in addition to spelling AP from time to time, he was drafted with the intention of getting a lot of looks at the goal line. He was a productive BEAST at the stripe in college.



Nobody else is concerned a little bit?

 

[Christo]

Looks for AD's catches to skyrocket.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

my uneducated guess is he'll keep ADP fresh.

that was Chester Taylor's role before.

 

[Deuceman]

ZERO worries. ADP will get rest here and there and let Gerhart take some of the pounding. These guys are gonna beat ppl up.

 

[JohnnyU]

no

 

[SayWhat?]

I'll go on the record as not being overly concerned. The Vikings absolutely needed a backup running back, and I think the pick was a product of them not wanting to be in a world of hurt if they had to trot Reynaud or Young out there for an extended period of time.

Will Gerhart get a few GL looks? Probably, but I don't think it will be very frequently. That is, unless Peterson can't cure his fumbling issues which I don't think will be the case. On the flipside, I think Peterson is the unquestioned 3rd down back now and will likely get a lot more work in that role. I think Peterson's value stays even, while Gerhart's drops like a rock.

 

[Raider Nation]

Looks for AD's catches to skyrocket.

Interesting viewpoint. Something I hadn't considered. So we should maybe take this draft pick as good news?Meaning, they needed a replacement for Taylor. Chester caught a LOT of passes.

Since Gerhart is not an accomplished receiver, we should look for even more 3-down work for AP?

 

[Crippler]

Mayock talked about him being a very good receiver. He was a centerfield prospect and has great hands. I think he was drafted to replace Taylor for sure and the hands part intrigues me. I think Peterson owners will want this guy as a handcuff. I was surprised they moved up to get him with a guy like Joe McKnight out there. That speaks to me also giving up the 3rd to do it

 

[slayer666]

Gerhart = Handcuff

 

[Raider Nation]

Mayock talked about him being a very good receiver. He was a centerfield prospect and has great hands.

We'll have to take his word for it. Gerhart caught 11 balls last year. They just didn't ask him to do that much at Stanford.

 

[cstu]

I can't view this as anything but a good thing for ADP. He's going to get more receptions and it's going to save him some wear and tear if they give Gerhart the tough carries.

 

[gehazi]

Gerhart is going to spell AP. That is all. AP's receptions doubled last year and he showed he is good in that role too.

 

[Johnny Ice]

I doubt seriously Gerhart would even put a small dent in AD's TD output. All it will take is a couple of vultures and AD will have a little talk with Childress.

 

[mlball77]

I could see him vulturing a few goal line carries... but his selection might also mean Peterson is in more on passing downs now.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'll say this: Peterson owners might have to spend the 6.11 on Gerhart now. He's a must have handcuff. Gerhart is a must start right away any week ADP is out.

 

[dickey moe]

ADP owners are lying if they aren't worried about vulture TDs.

 

[Banger]

I'll say this: Peterson owners might have to spend the 6.11 on Gerhart now. He's a must have handcuff. Gerhart is a must start right away any week ADP is out.

This is a very good point and makes Peterson an expensive investment.

 

[Go deep]

ADP owners are lying if they aren't worried about vulture TDs.

Most of his TD's came from inside the 3. Anyone want to bet his TD totals go down by at least 25% next year?

 

[kurtrudder]

just because Gerhart is not a 3rd down back is not the main issue IMO, this pick helps AD to be in the NFL for longer by having a guy can replace him for drives, who can grind out yards when the Vikings need to run out the clock instead of having your franchise back doing it...plus he could also vulture some goal line carries, that remains to be seen. AD is still a top 2 RB, that doesn't change for me.

 

[Rock152]

so where does Gerhart go now in rookie draft leagues? His value goes down somewhat than predicted before.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

I'll say this: Peterson owners might have to spend the 6.11 on Gerhart now. He's a must have handcuff. Gerhart is a must start right away any week ADP is out.

Any back that would start for ADP is likely a must start in that offense. Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

 

[Raider Nation]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Ok...you go burn a 6th round pick on a handcuff and let us know how that turns out for ya.

 

[Christo]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Ok...you go burn a 6th round pick on a handcuff and let us know how that turns out for ya.

Superb retort.

A hell of a lot better than the crap you spewed out.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Okay buddy. Tell us again how it's impossible for an NFL player to get hurt.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

 

[Raider Nation]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

Different circumstance.Should Peterson get hurt, Gerhart is likely to tear up the league. However, we've already seen that White is nothing special.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

Different circumstance.Should Peterson get hurt, Gerhart is likely to tear up the league. However, we've already seen that White is nothing special.

If Gerhart is likely to tear up the league wouldn't he have been drafted much earlier?

 

[Go deep]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

Different circumstance.Should Peterson get hurt, Gerhart is likely to tear up the league. However, we've already seen that White is nothing special.

If Gerhart is likely to tear up the league wouldn't he have been drafted much earlier?

No

 

[Raymell McKigney]

thanks very much for the pissing contest/hijack!!

IMO Gerhart is a must handcuff for AD in all leagues.....6th round is a big call....I'd probably go 8th or 9th.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

He'll be MUCH more then a handcuff and AP owners should not be happy. They didn't trade up for insurance, they could've gotten that later. He'll see his share, especially at the goal line

 

[fridayfrenzy]

He'll be MUCH more then a handcuff and AP owners should not be happy. They didn't trade up for insurance, they could've gotten that later. He'll see his share, especially at the goal line

Gerhart will get similar touches to what Chester Taylor did. Not an issue.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

He'll be MUCH more then a handcuff and AP owners should not be happy. They didn't trade up for insurance, they could've gotten that later. He'll see his share, especially at the goal line

Gerhart will get similar touches to what Chester Taylor did. Not an issue.

 

[cstu]

thanks very much for the pissing contest/hijack!! IMO Gerhart is a must handcuff for AD in all leagues.....6th round is a big call....I'd probably go 8th or 9th.

Some jerk is going to pick him right before you if you wait that long.

 

[WVU Alum]

Remember how much Turner cut into LT's productions. The short answer is, not at all.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

As we sit here today, I think 6.11 is a little high to draft him in a 12 team league. If I don't have ADP, I don't see myself drafting T. Gerhart, there are still other quality players and positions I need to get before I do that. I'm not saying 1 person (because that's all it takes) wouldn't do that in a draft of 12 but if I had ADP and someone did that, I wouldn't panick. More than likely during those 1st several weeks you could make a trade to get him, especially of Gerhart doesn't go off at all.

I think the handcuff is at 8, 9 for value. If you're spending a 1 and 6, that really puts a lot of pressure on the rest of your draft, I wouldn't go down that path.

 

[Max Power]

I dont think it hurts his value too much. As been mentioned previously, Gerhart is really a first and second down back who will steal some GL carries. The loss of Taylor should let ADP haul in a few more rec per year. Overall, I think we are talking a slight decrease in value, but nothing noticable really.

 

[fsufan]

Looks for AD's catches to skyrocket.

ADP owner in 2 leagues and I am very happy. I think he could have his best year of his career in 2010

 

[Christo]

thanks very much for the pissing contest/hijack!! IMO Gerhart is a must handcuff for AD in all leagues.....6th round is a big call....I'd probably go 8th or 9th.

Some jerk is going to pick him right before you if you wait that long.

Fine with me

 

[Funkley]

Sounds like the Vikings think he can play some fullback too. Not much chance a team with super bowl expectations will piss off their star rb by pulling him at the goal line a lot. If Gerhart scores a decent amount it's because he'll get the 4th qtr garbage td's.

 

[JohnnyU]

Explain why someone should burn a 6th round pick for a handcuff of a player that has started 30 out of 32 games the last two years?

So because a player hasn't gotten hurt, that means he can't get hurt?You could have said the same thing about Tom Brady entering 2008.

"Why should I draft Matt Cassel? Brady has missed one game in the past 7 years."

Anyone can get hurt. Is the Chris Johnson owner supposed to draft LenDale White in at 6.12?

No, he's supposed to draft his handcuff Javon Ringer

 

[Black]

I think they use Gerhart to close out games...esp with ADP's fumbling issues.

If Gerhart can block, he'll be in on third down, too. He'll be splitting carries in some fashion, not 'just' a role player.

 

[Fred Flintstone]

I dont think it hurts his value too much. As been mentioned previously, Gerhart is really a first and second down back who will steal some GL carries. The loss of Taylor should let ADP haul in a few more rec per year. Overall, I think we are talking a slight decrease in value, but nothing noticable really.

This is just wrong. He's a hammer near the Goal Line. Think Mike Alstott.He will be their GL back.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

The Vikings run a lot of split backs near the goal-line. It will be an advantage (for the Vikings, not sure about fantasy) to have them both in at that time so the defenses can't just key on Peterson.

 

[RUSF18]

Mayock talked about him being a very good receiver. He was a centerfield prospect and has great hands.

We'll have to take his word for it. Gerhart caught 11 balls last year. They just didn't ask him to do that much at Stanford.

Not trying to make a direct comparison, but Ray Rice was barely used in the passing game during his time at Rutgers, and the coaching staff maintained that he wasn't a good enough receiver to get involved like that. Maybe they were just using that as a reason for why they would rather have him carry the ball 30 times a game, but with how he looked catching balls out of the backfield in BAL...an unexpected jump in receptions can definitely happen.

 

[Todem]

No worries at all.

Will spell ADP time to time...that is it.

 

[mozzy84]

I dont think it hurts his value too much. As been mentioned previously, Gerhart is really a first and second down back who will steal some GL carries. The loss of Taylor should let ADP haul in a few more rec per year. Overall, I think we are talking a slight decrease in value, but nothing noticable really.

This is just wrong. He's a hammer near the Goal Line. Think Mike Alstott.

He will be their GL back.

I would say this is just wrong. highly doubtful the pull AD at the goal line (especially for a rookie), AD has been nothing but money down there.

 

[Honda]

No. It will keep him fresher for the end of the season and will extend his career 1-2 years longer.

I have more concern for the Vikings offense overall though as it will be quite a bit different on 3rd down where Chet T was money.

 

[Invictus~Bronte]

I dont think it hurts his value too much. As been mentioned previously, Gerhart is really a first and second down back who will steal some GL carries. The loss of Taylor should let ADP haul in a few more rec per year. Overall, I think we are talking a slight decrease in value, but nothing noticable really.

This is just wrong. He's a hammer near the Goal Line. Think Mike Alstott.

He will be their GL back.

I would say this is just wrong. highly doubtful the pull AD at the goal line (especially for a rookie), AD has been nothing but money down there.

I see you're an AP fan so you must've caught that playoff game last year where he put the ball on the ground a couple times. A bad one inside the five.The $ you're talking about is the contract Gerhart will be signing. They didn't trade up for this guy to be insurance.