Adrian Peterson, 12 Carries (1 Viewer)

[milo66]

Though, clearly, Head Coach Brad Childress was disappointed in another listless Vikings performance, he is resisting the notion of placing Adrian Peteron on the Vikings practice squad. "Frankly," Childress said, "he's not getting that many carries anyway. I could get rid of him, but, except for the occasional electrifying touchdown run, he's mostly invisible anyway." Chiuldress went on to say that he'd like to take Peterson off kickoff returns and move him entirely to kickoff defensive coverage.

 

[eoMMan]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

 

[Rebirtha]

 

[dickey moe]

 

[tomarken]

2/10

 

[Jimmy James]

It's not like Chester Taylor is Julius Jones. He's doing well out there in his own right. I don't have much sympathy for anybody who is complaining about 12/63/1. Heck, the kid even had a fumble. I didn't watch the game to know if this happened, but I wouldn't totally blame Childress for giving him a bit less work after putting the ball on the ground.

 

[SKribbles]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

I think it was a really really bad attempt at humor.

 

[JuniorNB]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

I think it was an attempt at humor.

 

[milo66]

It's not like Chester Taylor is Julius Jones. He's doing well out there in his own right. I don't have much sympathy for anybody who is complaining about 12/63/1. Heck, the kid even had a fumble. I didn't watch the game to know if this happened, but I wouldn't totally blame Childress for giving him a bit less work after putting the ball on the ground.

Good point. ADP already has two fumbles on the year. At this point, given his carries-per-game, he could be looking at three by year's end. Unless he gets hurt on kickoff returns.

 

[Max Power]

its all about the YPC baby!

 

[Fallerjw]

Vikings:

27 carries for 131 yards

4.85 yards / attempt

19 pass attempts for 72 yards

3.79 yards / attempt

How can their passing game be so bad? I know the obvious answer....but if it's not working, don't you have to change something?

 

[cobalt_27]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

 

[Gerg73]

Childress should win Coach of the year!

Sometimes, you have to keep a youg RB's head from getting to big. Taking him out on 3rd downs and helping the defense by having ZERO players on the field to scare them is not only Smart, but very considerate to the other Team.

He's very popular amongst his peers.

It doesn't matter what you think about him. His job isn't to help you win Fanatsy Football games. His job (Apparently) is to let the WORST QB in the last 20 years to continually keep starting for him.

And to split carries between one of the best RB's in the NFL and a carreer backup.

 

[HoTnickZ]

I almost spit out my drink at this.

The next question is did milo come up with this himself, and if so, which country did milo previously reside?

 

[eoMMan]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

I think it was an attempt at humor.

Sorry, I'm not a Shark Pool regular. I don't get the humor over here. I'm more into the humor in the FFA and the :e:.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

What's the point of over-using Adrian Peterson this year when his team has little chance of making the playoffs?

 

[milo66]

Childress should win Coach of the year!Sometimes, you have to keep a youg RB's head from getting to big. Taking him out on 3rd downs and helping the defense by having ZERO players on the field to scare them is not only Smart, but very considerate to the other Team.He's very popular amongst his peers.It doesn't matter what you think about him. His job isn't to help you win Fanatsy Football games. His job (Apparently) is to let the WORST QB in the last 20 years to continually keep starting for him.And to split carries between one of the best RB's in the NFL and a carreer backup.

Exactly. Because if this friggin' rookie is going to keep going around ripping off startling TD runs, how are we going to get any real-game practice for our OL at picking up blitzes on third-and fourteen?

 

[Koya]

Huh? Your post is confusing. Where is this from?

I think it was an attempt at humor.

Sorry, I'm not a Shark Pool regular. I don't get the humor over here. I'm more into the humor in the FFA and the :e:.

 

[Islander]

I am not a Vikings fan, I am not a C Taylor owner, I am not a A Peterson fan so I am totally objection. But honestly Childress is hilarious for giving Peterson less than 50% of the team's carries.

 

[Jimmy James]

I am not a Vikings fan, I am not a C Taylor owner, I am not a A Peterson fan so I am totally objection. But honestly Childress is hilarious for giving Peterson less than 50% of the team's carries.

Peterson 12 carriesTaylor 10 carriesI don't care what the man says. He is clearly NOT giving Peterson a minority of the carries, even despite Peterson putting it on the carpet.

 

[cobalt_27]

I am not a Vikings fan, I am not a C Taylor owner, I am not a A Peterson fan so I am totally objection. But honestly Childress is hilarious for giving Peterson less than 50% of the team's carries.

Peterson 12 carriesTaylor 10 carriesI don't care what the man says. He is clearly NOT giving Peterson a minority of the carries, even despite Peterson putting it on the carpet.

So, you support this distribution?

 

[Jimmy James]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point.

I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

 

[Islander]

I am not a Vikings fan, I am not a C Taylor owner, I am not a A Peterson fan so I am totally objection. But honestly Childress is hilarious for giving Peterson less than 50% of the team's carries.

Peterson 12 carriesTaylor 10 carries

I don't care what the man says. He is clearly NOT giving Peterson a minority of the carries, even despite Peterson putting it on the carpet.

A Peterson 12 carriesVikings 27 carries

Peterson 13 touches

C Taylor 13 touches

Again, I do not care, but this is funny stuff.

13 touches!

 

[Jimmy James]

That is true -- I didn't account for the 4 times the QB ran or the one other rushing play. I was just considering Taylor versus Peterson.

Taylor's 3 catches to Peterson's 1 helps make the point that Peterson isn't as good a receiver at this point.

 

[Islander]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

 

[cobalt_27]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

Well, it's abundantly clear no matter what angle you approach this that Childress does not have the first clue how to manage his football team. His inexcusable misuse of A.D. is but one of any number of things dating back to his woeful rookie season as H.C. last year.But, what he's doing with A.D. is completely moronic. So he put the ball on the carpet. I don't see him putting Jackson on the bench for drilling the carpet with his incomplete passes that have been in abundance since he became the starter. It isn't a fumble here and there that's keeping A.D. on the bench when he clearly should be playing. It is utter blindness to what he has that can contribute to winning football games.

 

[cobalt_27]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

Exactly.

 

[cobalt_27]

That is true -- I didn't account for the 4 times the QB ran or the one other rushing play. I was just considering Taylor versus Peterson. Taylor's 3 catches to Peterson's 1 helps make the point that Peterson isn't as good a receiver at this point.

:X You haven't been paying much attention have you?

 

[Jimmy James]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

It's WEEK 7, and the Vikings have had a bye. Taylor missed two games. You're operating on four games so far when both players have been available. In six games, Peterson has 108 carries. That's an average of 18 carries a game. More importantly, that works out to another 180 carries or so the rest of the way. If Peterson comes out well below that, complain. That number is probably at the high end of what I'd ideally like to have a rookie at (I think 250 seems about right).

 

[Islander]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

It's WEEK 7, and the Vikings have had a bye. Taylor missed two games. You're operating on four games so far when both players have been available. In six games, Peterson has 108 carries. That's an average of 18 carries a game. More importantly, that works out to another 180 carries or so the rest of the way. If Peterson comes out well below that, complain. That number is probably at the high end of what I'd ideally like to have a rookie at (I think 250 seems about right).

I remind you that I am not complaining. It is in my best interest for fantasy football that Childress keeps it that way. The 250 number comes out from nowhere. I don't see a particular reason not to give him 320 carries, especially since the passing game is so bad, you can still give a decent number of carries to Taylor but keep AD over 300. LT got 339 during his rookie year. I am not sure why that was problematic. 250 for rookies is not a set standard.If you want to calculate AD's average number of carries so far, please exclude the games where Taylor was out.

 

[cobalt_27]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

It's WEEK 7, and the Vikings have had a bye. Taylor missed two games. You're operating on four games so far when both players have been available. In six games, Peterson has 108 carries. That's an average of 18 carries a game. More importantly, that works out to another 180 carries or so the rest of the way. If Peterson comes out well below that, complain. That number is probably at the high end of what I'd ideally like to have a rookie at (I think 250 seems about right).

I remind you that I am not complaining. It is in my best interest for fantasy football that Childress keeps it that way. The 250 number comes out from nowhere. I don't see a particular reason not to give him 320 carries, especially since the passing game is so bad, you can still give a decent number of carries to Taylor but keep AD over 300. LT got 339 during his rookie year. I am not sure why that was problematic. 250 for rookies is not a set standard.If you want to calculate AD's average number of carries so far, please exclude the games where Taylor was out.

And, it's notable that in the GB game, A.D. has 100 yards on 10 carries going into halftime. Childress does what these guys want and protects A.D. with a warm blanket and milk bottle in the second half, giving him only 2 rushes the rest of the game. MIN loses 23-16. But, at least they weren't overworking the kid.

 

[milo66]

Yes, I support that distribution. It was 12 for Peterson to 8 for Taylor when the fumble happened. That means he got 60% of the work up to the point he fumbled. I think it's entirely appropriate to bench a rookie for fumbling, particularly if he needs to learn to put the ball away like at least one person here has indicated Peterson does. Again, Taylor was effective. Taylor is also reportedly a better blocker and receiver at this point. I think if you're going to second guess Childress, the ratio between Peterson and Taylor is not where you start. I think there is a method to his madness at QB that is supported by the ownership. Only time will tell if it works out. I do wonder whether it's really a good idea to run what appears to be a balanced O when you have two RBs running the ball well in a game like this one, but a lot of coaches run run/pass mixes I don't understand from time to time.

If this week's game was the exception to the 50/50 distribution between AD and Taylor, I could buy the argument of the fumble. But since this is not the first time Childress is accused of under-utilizing Peterson, I don't buy it.

It's WEEK 7, and the Vikings have had a bye. Taylor missed two games. You're operating on four games so far when both players have been available. In six games, Peterson has 108 carries. That's an average of 18 carries a game. More importantly, that works out to another 180 carries or so the rest of the way. If Peterson comes out well below that, complain. That number is probably at the high end of what I'd ideally like to have a rookie at (I think 250 seems about right).

Did you watch today's game? Because I did. I'm a lifelong Giants fan (45 years) and I watched ADP absolutely DUST Cowboy defenders on that first drive, just like he dusted Chicago defenders last week, and then I never saw him again. Granted Tarvaris Jackson and the rest of the Viking offense sucks ... and they just didn't run alot of plays. ADP is a major force among lilliputians over there.Every time ADP fields a kickoff I have visions of Jason Sehorn fielding a punt in that Giants-Jets exhibition that ended his career.And yes, I own ADP in both FFL leagues I'm in. I made a point of it. He runs high, he runs dangerously, and he looks like Eric Dickerson to me.

 

[Jimmy James]

He goes from 18 to 16 if you exclude those games. That'd be another 160 instead of 180. Like I said, I think it's about right.

You're right that it doesn't HAVE to be 250. I think that's ideal just from the perspective of what a college back likely dealt with. Let him transition from college to the NFL with a similar workload over the course of a season and then let him move the workload up from there once he has a season under his belt. Honestly, I could see giving a back you fear could get hit with an injury a little less work.

ETA: No, admittedly, I did not watch the game. I'm working from statistics here, which is the best I can do having not seen the game.

 

[packersfan]

The Cowboys' defense definitely made it tough on Peterson today but 13 touches for your team's best offensive weapon in a close game is pretty poor coaching in my opinion.

 

[cobalt_27]

The Cowboys' defense definitely made it tough on Peterson today but 13 touches for your team's best offensive weapon in a close game is pretty poor coaching in my opinion.

Haven't you heard? It's not important to win football games now.

 

[jurb26]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

 

[Jimmy James]

The Cowboys' defense definitely made it tough on Peterson today but 13 touches for your team's best offensive weapon in a close game is pretty poor coaching in my opinion.

Haven't you heard? It's not important to win football games now.

How exactly did the 68 yards on 13 touches Chester Taylor gave his team result in them losing? It seems to me the margin was a blocked FG ran back for a TD...

 

[cobalt_27]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

 

[Islander]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

I agree it won't change and I like it that way. But I think it's very stupid.

 

[jurb26]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

1. Did I say it was you?2. Have you not looked at the first page of the "Shark Pool" with various threads crying over spilled Peterson Milk?

 

[cobalt_27]

The Cowboys' defense definitely made it tough on Peterson today but 13 touches for your team's best offensive weapon in a close game is pretty poor coaching in my opinion.

Haven't you heard? It's not important to win football games now.

How exactly did the 68 yards on 13 touches Chester Taylor gave his team result in them losing? It seems to me the margin was a blocked FG ran back for a TD...

No, I'm agreeing with you. Bench the guy who grinds out all of those 4- and 5-yd runs and busts out the home run 80-yarders off the run and pass. He should not be in the game because you don't want to risk injuring him. Just wait until you have a team you think can get to the playoffs and then let him play.You've got the right idea.

 

[Islander]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.

I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.

On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

Can we share?

One more person to add to my ignore list for having bad FFL judgment. I want to make sure I don't ever read Fisher's posts again, it could cloud my judgment.

 

[milo66]

It would certainly be one thing, if there was no room in this offense for ADP, and the Vikings were beating up on a weak division. But, jesus, Bobby Wade? Troy Williamson? Visanthe Shiancoe? Yeah, yeah, Chester Taylor.

At the very least, take away the kickoff returns, and add five carries to ADP's workload. Put Troy Williamson on returns. At the risk of verging on hyperbole, one of those ADP carries goes to the house.

 

[cobalt_27]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.

I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.

On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

Can we share?

One more person to add to my ignore list for having bad FFL judgment. I want to make sure I don't ever read Fisher's posts again, it could cloud my judgment.

Assani's good people. He just got a little carried away with his love for A.D., and I challenged him to put his money where his mouth was.And, I'm convinced that, if Childress didn't believe in the Jimmy James Theory for coddling greatness, A.D. would have a real chance of challenging LT on this bet. But, Childress has built a serious track record for being a dope, so my $ should be safe on this.

 

[smackdaddies]

Childress, if he has a choice, will always split carries between two good backs, just like he did at Madison.

They even reported him saying it during the tv reporting today.

Having said that, he is CRAZY.

I was (pre season) a CT supporter. It should be AP all the time till he needs a blow, CT for 3 plays, then AP again

 

[chris1969]

IS this Childress' grand imperial plan for the make betterment of Vikingland?

 

[Islander]

IS this Childress' grand imperial plan for the make betterment of Vikingland?

I thought it was retirement planning?

 

[Zow]

What's the point of over-using Adrian Peterson this year when his team has little chance of making the playoffs?

If used properly, we would have a chance at the playoffs this year...

 

[Assani Fisher]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.

I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.

On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

Can we share?

One more person to add to my ignore list for having bad FFL judgment. I want to make sure I don't ever read Fisher's posts again, it could cloud my judgment.

Its not the rest of the year, its including what has already happened. Please put me on your ignore list ASAP btw.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Lot of people seem to still be holding onto that false hope that Taylor will just go away. It will take an injury folks, get used to it.

1. I don't own A.D. in my league.2. I have a $200 bet with Assani Fisher that LT will outproduce Peterson the rest of the year.

I have a vested interest in Childress doing exactly what stupid things he is doing. He should stay the course.

On the other hand, what he's doing is very, very stupid if he's trying to win football games.

Can we share?

One more person to add to my ignore list for having bad FFL judgment. I want to make sure I don't ever read Fisher's posts again, it could cloud my judgment.

Assani's good people. He just got a little carried away with his love for A.D., and I challenged him to put his money where his mouth was.And, I'm convinced that, if Childress didn't believe in the Jimmy James Theory for coddling greatness, A.D. would have a real chance of challenging LT on this bet. But, Childress has built a serious track record for being a dope, so my $ should be safe on this.

Pretty sure it was the other way around(me challenging everyone else) but other than that, yeah agreed.