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Adrian Peterson, Buy, Sell or Hold (1 Viewer)

nzranger

nzranger

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I apologize in advance if this thread is ongoing somewhere, if so someone please provide a link..

What are you ADP's owners/buyers out there thinking?

Is anyone looking to sell for top5-10WR in PPR? Those guys (Smith/Owens/Jennings etc) should be producing comparable FP to the projected points for his ADP (average draft position). Maybe packaged with a Slaton/Forte/C.Johnson type? Would you ADP holders bite on that kind of deal?

What are you buyers out there willing to offer up?

His remaining SOS is not too bad, CHI twice and TB.

DET, ARI, ATL for the playoffs

For Redraft leagues only. Don't expect anyone to sell in Keeper/Dynasty

 
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Sorry, pool must be choppy today. Wasn't trying to go fishing, just answering the OP's question. I was able to sell ADP and his playoff schedule very HIGH. The person I traded him to had Reggie Wayne, Marshall, and Housh, so I was able to sell him on Peterson's ability to explode any week. So anyway, yes, I did steal a top Tier RB and WR for Peterson.

 
Krewe said:
That said, unless you get a top-flight RB and top 5 WR thrown at you, then its

H O L D.
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Well there's not too many people willing to give up Portis/Lynch type guys + a top5 WR for an underperforming ADP.would you have taken an offer from the next tier i.e. Marshall + C.Johnson or Wayne + Forte

 
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nzranger said:
Krewe said:
That said, unless you get a top-flight RB and top 5 WR thrown at you, then its

H O L D.
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Well there's not too many people willing to give up Portis/Lynch type guys + a top5 WR for an underperforming ADP.would you have taken an offer from the next tier i.e. Marshall + C.Johnson or Wayne + Forte
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maybe...especially the latter. But those would be enough to get serious talks underway
 
I second the general consensus that he's a hold, but it's very dependent on what you're getting back in return. I would probably pull the trigger on any offer than contains a top 10 WR and a suitable RB replacement.

My confidence level in Childress/the Vikings offense finding a way to stop teams from loading the box on anything less than 3rd and long is plummeting daily. Week after week you see teams bottling up Peterson with a stacked box/blitzing. The Saints and Lions did it for crying out loud, yet I'm not seeing the adjustments from the Vikings. I'm not even seeing the basic things your average armchair QB would call for (e.g. more screens to slow down the run blitz).

All that said, the law of averages says he's likely to increase his TDs going forward and he's still currently a top 10 back in pretty standard scoring (Non-PPR, yardage league).

 
In a 10-team redraft, I moved Brees/Ernie Graham for ADP/Garrard 3 weeks ago. Only trade I've seen involving Peterson in any of my leagues.

 
Before last week's games, I gave R.Wayne, Calvin Johnson, and Willie Parker

for

Peterson, Chester Taylor, and Steve Smith (Car)

12 team Redraft, PPR

 
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I bought in my dynasty league:

I gave: Darren MacFadden, Kevin Smith, Antonio Gates, and a 1st round rookie pick next year (99% chance that it will be the 1st overall).

I received: All Day Peterson, Greg Jennings, and Kellen Winslow.

 
I just traded FOR ADP.

I got ADP, Chester Taylor and Jason Campbell

for

Favre, Chris Johnson and D.Bowe

I had a lot of depth, and the team I traded with was starting Campbell and had basically no #3 WR. So, I am no longer as deep, but after drafting 12th out of 12 teams, I have a bit more starpower...

Starters:

Warner

ADP

Lynch

S.Smith

Calvin J

Royal

H.Miller

Kaeding

Bench:

Campbell/Bulger (I will be hunting for a better backup QB as I fear for Warner's health for a full season)

LJ, Thomas Jones (one will be trade bait)

Gage (I will be hunting for a decent FA option here)

Fasano

 
I'm a buyer. posted this in another ADP thread....

I just made a trade to get Peterson from an owner who sounds like some of you. Other than a bad game on MNF against NO, I don't see any reason to be down on the guy. That offense was missing a pro-bowl caliber tackle for 4 games, had a banged up WR corps, and has started 2 QBs already this season. Not to mention a few tougher matchups already as well. Once this unit jells and gets its gets rolling, people are going to be kicking themselves for giving up on a talent like him so soon.An elite talent running behind a top 5 OL and getting 20+ carries a game. What is not to like?
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Gave up Gore and Chad OC
 
I wasn't thinking of moving Perterson until I read this thread. Now I am starting to give this idea a little more thought

I just had a drive by conversation with another owner to see if he would be interested in ADP in a deal that would look something like

I give ADP and Harrison

I get Lynch and Marshall

He did not say no right away and said he would give it some more thought. He has Barber and is intrigued about having ADP and Barber in the same backfield.

Now I just have to think about what I am going to do if he would actually make this deal.

 
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Note to Joe/Staff/wanna-be's

Maybe you could link up every major thread on players in their profile on the FBG site (money content). Wouldn't be that hard, maybe make 10 url slots, and just bump off old ones. And then auto link it in the players profile. Would be nice to be able to jump to content for each player on the forum.

Like the OP said, it's really quite hard to search. Actually it's painful. People use nicknames all the time. Like LT, AP AD LJ. Could just have a mod addon that would let the mod link the thread to a player in the DB.

Anywho, rant time. If we were drafting today I'm taking AD #1. And he's starting every single week he's healthy.

Two big reasons people lose in FF, less talent/bad draft/injuries (pretty much the same boat, less fire power then opponent) and two you try to outthink the room. I'm sorry but people benching AD for Pittman/Rhodes, are guppies. Go check out the venting thread. You'll see hundreds of these people every week. I started XXXX flavor of the week because he was playing XXXX. Pittman and Rhodes are awful RBs. More often then not they'll suck. Rhodes was actually awful last week.

Play your freaking studs. Many many years ago I used to play in yahoo money leagues. We'd always have 1 guy who drafted then never showed up. And more often then not, he'd do pretty well. Even with injuries, byes, he was always starting his best players. A lot of guys out there would be better off starting lineups based on where they drafted them. Never pickup a guy off the WW and start him over your 1.01 overall pick who is healthy. I don't care who he's playing, or who the WW guy is playing. People with too much time, trying to "out work" or "out think" the league.

If people could predict NFL outcomes, they'd be in vegas making millions, not playing fantasy football. Sure matchups can be great for tie breakers, trend up and down a guy a little. But benching RB1 for RB55 because of the defense he's playing, is laughable. If Rhodes was a lock for 100/1 vs a crappy defense, he'd be getting 1,400 and 8 every year. Oh, and he'd be a starter in the NFL. Go play your studs and settle down.

 
teamroc said:
Note to Joe/Staff/wanna-be'sMaybe you could link up every major thread on players in their profile on the FBG site (money content). Wouldn't be that hard, maybe make 10 url slots, and just bump off old ones. And then auto link it in the players profile. Would be nice to be able to jump to content for each player on the forum.Like the OP said, it's really quite hard to search. Actually it's painful. People use nicknames all the time. Like LT, AP AD LJ. Could just have a mod addon that would let the mod link the thread to a player in the DB. Anywho, rant time. If we were drafting today I'm taking AD #1. And he's starting every single week he's healthy. Two big reasons people lose in FF, less talent/bad draft/injuries (pretty much the same boat, less fire power then opponent) and two you try to outthink the room. I'm sorry but people benching AD for Pittman/Rhodes, are guppies. Go check out the venting thread. You'll see hundreds of these people every week. I started XXXX flavor of the week because he was playing XXXX. Pittman and Rhodes are awful RBs. More often then not they'll suck. Rhodes was actually awful last week. Play your freaking studs. Many many years ago I used to play in yahoo money leagues. We'd always have 1 guy who drafted then never showed up. And more often then not, he'd do pretty well. Even with injuries, byes, he was always starting his best players. A lot of guys out there would be better off starting lineups based on where they drafted them. Never pickup a guy off the WW and start him over your 1.01 overall pick who is healthy. I don't care who he's playing, or who the WW guy is playing. People with too much time, trying to "out work" or "out think" the league. If people could predict NFL outcomes, they'd be in vegas making millions, not playing fantasy football. Sure matchups can be great for tie breakers, trend up and down a guy a little. But benching RB1 for RB55 because of the defense he's playing, is laughable. If Rhodes was a lock for 100/1 vs a crappy defense, he'd be getting 1,400 and 8 every year. Oh, and he'd be a starter in the NFL. Go play your studs and settle down.
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That's great and I agree with the sentiment but I was trying to explore actual deals going down for ADP. I dont think anyone is including Rhodes/Pittman in those packages
 
I don't see how he can't be a hold.

Clearly, while not performing poorly, his numbers have not been nearly what was expected when owners drafted him. He hasn't had any really big runs and hasn't had a blow up game, despite facing some very favorable match ups.

That being said, he did have a hammy injury and the team is 3-3 and tied for 1st in their division. Plus, they have a bye week coming up. Win or loss against the Bears, the Vikes are going to be right in the mix for the division. But most importantly, he is still the same player that had such a great run last year. The coaching is the same, and believe it or not, I think Frerrote is going to do just enough to loosen up the defenses a bit and get that 8th man out of the box (much to the benefit of Berrian).

In the end, I think Peterson is a special talent and is due to have a very big second half of the year coming off the bye. If you are an owner and can hang on until week 9, I think Peterson is the number one back from week 9 forward, and will finally put up some HUGE numbers and monster weeks. He's simply too good not to.

 
Im not seling him anytime soon. I just received an offer in my keeper for ADP/TO 4 Wayne/Ronnie Brown... had a think but said no. Just love the kids upside in yrs to come.

 
nzranger said:
Krewe said:
That said, unless you get a top-flight RB and top 5 WR thrown at you, then its

H O L D.
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Well there's not too many people willing to give up Portis/Lynch type guys + a top5 WR for an underperforming ADP.would you have taken an offer from the next tier i.e. Marshall + C.Johnson or Wayne + Forte
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How would you get a top flight RB and a top WR for ADP who is nt even a top flight RB himself . ( Why would nt he be a one year wonder )
 
hbkhbk said:
I bought in my dynasty league:I gave: Darren MacFadden, Kevin Smith, Antonio Gates, and a 1st round rookie pick next year (99% chance that it will be the 1st overall).I received: All Day Peterson, Greg Jennings, and Kellen Winslow.
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Extremely reasonable...nice trade.
 
10 team redraft PPR league.

This was the last year i could have kept Peterson anyway. I traded him away

Got: Fitz, Cooley

Gave: ADP, Calvin Johnson.

Had depth at RB and got an upgrade at WR and TE. Being last year i could have him.. i rolled the dice.

 
He's the Chad Johnson of RBs... he'll have 4 awesome games that will inflate his stats to top 10 RB status, but the rest of the year he's bench material

 
Well i'm glad I asked the question because my thoughts on Peterson are like the responses I've gotten in this thread.. ll over the map :)

Just for summaries sake here's how the responses so far have broken down by the numbers with trade details included where given. (I put a little star (*) next to posters who have 4digits or less in their ID number for what it's worth to those who weigh opinions by older posters more heavily than newer ones)

Any details of dynasty trades I have included for the sake of comparison, but I dont think anyone is arguing against ADP as a definate dynasty buy

Buy

6 (4x*)

M.Jones-Drew/Cotchery for ADP/Garrard

Brees/E.Graham for ADP/Garrard (10tm, Redraft) * FBG Staff

Wayne/Calvin Johnson/W.Parker for ADP/C.Taylor/S.Smith (Car) (12tm Redraft, PPR) *

Favre/Chris Johnson/D.Bowe for ADP/C.Taylor/Jason Campbell *

Gore/Ocho Cinco for ADP ( I don't understand this trade )

Tomlinson/Holt/2009 Pick for ADP (DYNASTY) (and was rejected by ADP holder)

McFadden/K.Smith/A.Gates/2009 1st rd rookie pick (1st overall) for ADP/Jennings/K.Winslow (DYNASTY) *

Sell

7 (2x*)

for Lynch/Marshall (Redraft, PPR)

for Top 10 WR/RB replacement (opinion)

for Portis (opinion)

ADP/Jennings for R.Brown/Bush/T.Holt (PPR, Redraft)

ADP/Harrison for Lynch/Marshall (poster is trying to trade) *

ADP/J.O'Sullivan for Romo/Bush

ADP/Calvin Johnson for Fitz/Cooley (10tm Redraft, PPR) * ( nor this one )

Hold (3x*)

6

turned down ADP/TO for Wayne/R.Brown (Keeper) *

Tomlinson/Holt/2009 Pick for ADP (DYNASTY) (and was rejected by ADP holder) *

Looks like ADP is still on the fence..

 
nzranger said:
Gore/Ocho Cinco for ADP ( I don't understand this trade )
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Its not that hard to understand. I think Gore is over-achieving and ADP will be the better back to have from this point on. For some reason the other owner wanted Ocho Cinco tossed in, and I had no problem parting with him as he was only wasting a valuable bench spot.
 
Max Power said:
nzranger said:
Gore/Ocho Cinco for ADP ( I don't understand this trade )
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Its not that hard to understand. I think Gore is over-achieving and ADP will be the better back to have from this point on. For some reason the other owner wanted Ocho Cinco tossed in, and I had no problem parting with him as he was only wasting a valuable bench spot.
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Fair enough, what I meant was that I thought you could have got more. I understand you think that ADP will be the better back from here, but I think Gore is generally valued higher at this point which meant you probably could have got something more from him rather than the other way round.
 
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I traded FOR ADP this week in my big money, which scores like this:

ppr, bonus points for longer TDs and double points for non-traditional TDs (RB receives a TD/QB runs for TD etc...)

I gave: Braylon Edwards, Holmes, Maroney

I got: ADP, Holt, Bowe

I think ADP and Holt (to a lesser extent) will revert to their mean which means ADP has about 5+ monster games that I will get from him. The fact that Holmes and Edwards have very difficult passing schedules for the rest of the year while Holt and Bowe have easier matchups made the decision possible.

 
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currently debating this trade offer the ADP owner has offered .... it in the AC forum already

he gives me ADP and Steve Smith

I give him Burner Turner and Wayne...

Peterson's insane playoff schedule has me being a buyer..... i am a lock for the playoffs.

Seems he is at the lowest value he will be in redrafts, people still being burned by his MNF game.

 
I don't mean to turn this into an Assistant Coach thread but is everyone classifying

ADP for Lynch and Marshall as a good deal in PPR redraft leagues.

I am one of the people on the fence about trading ADP but the lynch and Marshall owner may be open to this type of a deal.

Pull the trigger?

 
theToes said:
I don't mean to turn this into an Assistant Coach thread but is everyone classifyingADP for Lynch and Marshall as a good deal in PPR redraft leagues.I am one of the people on the fence about trading ADP but the lynch and Marshall owner may be open to this type of a deal.Pull the trigger?
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I think you have to make up your own mind as to whether that's a good deal. Looks like there's good value to be had either way (buy or sell)
 
nzranger said:
Max Power said:
nzranger said:
Gore/Ocho Cinco for ADP ( I don't understand this trade )
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Its not that hard to understand. I think Gore is over-achieving and ADP will be the better back to have from this point on. For some reason the other owner wanted Ocho Cinco tossed in, and I had no problem parting with him as he was only wasting a valuable bench spot.
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Fair enough, what I meant was that I thought you could have got more. I understand you think that ADP will be the better back from here, but I think Gore is generally valued higher at this point which meant you probably could have got something more from him rather than the other way round.
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I feel much better about this now
 
ADP/Calvin Johnson for Fitz/Cooley (10tm Redraft, PPR) * ( nor this one )
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I have plenty of RB depth and lack one great consistant WR. Cooley was at my request due to some TE injuries. It just boiled down to having plenty of RB depth and a little weak in WR dept and that this was my last year with ADP. I wouldnt have him next year and I needed more WR help.
 
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