Adrian Peterson vs Lions (1 Viewer)

[SportsMumboJumbo]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over.

Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

 

[G-Money]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over. Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

I'm actually starting BOTH AP/Taylor this week. I made sure I grabbed Taylor in round 9 (for a cuff), but this is one of the few games they both hit the starting lineup.

 

[California]

So...you're going to sit him?

 

[Brutis]

I dont remember AP going off last year against Detroit either if memory serves me correctly.

 

[mlball77]

While MIN's D is better than New Orlean's, their offense also isn't as strong… so I wouldn't expect a huge blowout after two quarters. That said, there is a good chance that MIN is up by a solid margin and decides to lean more on Chester in the late 3rd to 4th qtr. That is a distinct possiblity. However, if MIN is up by a solid margin late, I think the odds are good that Peterson will have played a signifcant role in gaining such a lead. This is a nice matchup for ADP. - So I think you make a good point that he may be rested late, but I don't think he'll be sitting the entire 2nd half (barring inj), and if MIN is up big late, ADP probably already 'got his'.

 

[None_More_Black]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over. Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

I'm actually starting BOTH AP/Taylor this week. I made sure I grabbed Taylor in round 9 (for a cuff), but this is one of the few games they both hit the starting lineup.

Thinking about this.

 

[SportsMumboJumbo]

So...you're going to sit him?

Of course you are not going to sit the best RB against the worst D, I was just looking at it from a different angle and saying their may be some drawback to it.

 

[Knobs]

So...you're saying ADP is going to blow up for so many points in the first half, he won't do much in the second?

Really, who cares when he gets the points as long as he gets them?

Furthermore, I think your threads are bordering upon spamland.

 

[California]

I posted this in the Favre thread but,

12/07/08 MIN@DET 20-16 (MIN came from behind to win in 4th quarter on TJackson's TD pass after Frerotte was injured.)

AP's stats:

Rush: 23-102-0

Rec: 1-15-0

10/12/08 DET@MIN 12-10 (MIN won this game on a questionable PI call against DET and a FG with 9 seconds left in the game.)

AP's stats:

Rush: 25-111-0

Rec: 1-(-5)-0

edit: Yeah, last year's stat don't guarantee anything of course. The Lions did pull an 0-fer last year but they generally play the Vikings pretty tough.

 

[footballnerd]

Didn't MIN D let the Brady Quinn led CLE put up 20 pts last week?

 

[Mr. Yuk]

Didn't MIN D let the Brady Quinn led CLE put up 20 pts last week?

Cribbs scored a punt TD. Can't fault the D for that. The last TD was in garbage time against scrubs. So only 6 points when it actually mattered. Oh, and one of those field goals was a result of the dumb opening kickoff onsides.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Didn't MIN D let the Brady Quinn led CLE put up 20 pts last week?

Adrian Peterson can take a little bit of time to build up a head of steam against certain defenses. He is liable to break off an amazing run at any given time, but early on in the game Chilly's M.O. is to bang it out hard and just keep going at it until defenses ultimately tire. It was 13-10 CLE at Halftime last week, the Vikes weren't moving it at will over the air and were having trouble on the ground. But as the game went on, the Browns got tired. I wouldn't be surprised to see another similar situation here again. I think Favre wasn't kidding when he said he doesn't mind putting up 110 yards and 1TD if it means they won. The coaches are stubborn and like to do things this way, ball control all the way. The Vikings D let the browns score on 'em yeah. Still a good performance across the board for the Vikings.

 

[jon_mx]

This will be a close game. Lions play much better at home. The game will be within 7 points.

 

[bostonfred]

I posted this in the Favre thread but,12/07/08 MIN@DET 20-16AP's stats:Rush: 23-102-0Rec: 1-15-010/12/08 DET@MIN 12-10AP's stats:Rush: 25-111-0Rec: 1-(-5)-0edit: Yeah, last year's stat don't guarantee anything of course. The Lions did pull an 0-fer last year but they generally play the Vikings pretty tough.

100+ yards a game in both games last year is tough?

 

[California]

I posted this in the Favre thread but,12/07/08 MIN@DET 20-16AP's stats:Rush: 23-102-0Rec: 1-15-010/12/08 DET@MIN 12-10AP's stats:Rush: 25-111-0Rec: 1-(-5)-0edit: Yeah, last year's stat don't guarantee anything of course. The Lions did pull an 0-fer last year but they generally play the Vikings pretty tough.

100+ yards a game in both games last year is tough?

Is that what I said?

 

[one time]

I posted this in the Favre thread but,12/07/08 MIN@DET 20-16AP's stats:Rush: 23-102-0Rec: 1-15-010/12/08 DET@MIN 12-10AP's stats:Rush: 25-111-0Rec: 1-(-5)-0edit: Yeah, last year's stat don't guarantee anything of course. The Lions did pull an 0-fer last year but they generally play the Vikings pretty tough.

100+ yards a game in both games last year is tough?

He's talking score wise

 

[SportsMumboJumbo]

But the two low 100 yard games is kind of my point. AP will get his 100 yard game, but I think people are expecting another 180 yard 3 TD performance due to it being the Lions. I think his performance will be consistent with his 2 previous ones (Very good, but not Amazing like last week)

 

[Zigg]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over. Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

As bad as the Lions D is, lets not get carried away. The Lions gave up 35+ 5 times last year, now the Vikings are going to score 35 in the first half? The Vikes scored 32 is 2 games last year. For some unknown reason, AP was far from dominant against the Lions last year, so I think 35 at half is a stretch.

 

[SportsMumboJumbo]

35-0 is a stretch and not likely, but I can definitly see it being possible. And if it is a closer game that probably means Minnesota is not scoring as much which means AP might not be scoring as much.

 

[thatguythere]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over. Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

As bad as the Lions D is, lets not get carried away. The Lions gave up 35+ 5 times last year, now the Vikings are going to score 35 in the first half? The Vikes scored 32 is 2 games last year. For some unknown reason, AP was far from dominant against the Lions last year, so I think 35 at half is a stretch.

I'm thinking it could have been their QB play and the fact that nobody, not even the lowly Lions, respected the pass. One would have to think there will be more scoring than 20-16 or 12-10....both of these teams have changed quite a bit on offense.

 

[gianmarco]

We hear this so often and I don't get the thinking. "If Minn gets up big, then I'm worried they might sit AP and play more Chester". Repeat for other teams as well.

Well, here's the thing. If Minn gets up big, it's likely BECAUSE of AP and because he's put up a ton of stats already. Thus, you should HOPE they get up big because it's likely due to AP blowing up.

 

[Da Guru]

I have AP on one of my fantasy teams and I was obviously excited to see he is playing the Lions. But do you think they will be up so much that he will be pulled from the game and Chester Taylor will take over. Minnesotas D is much better then New Orleans and they will not allow Detroit to be in it like the Saints did. It could easily be 35-0 at halftime in which case AP probably will account for a couple of those TDs or so but not playing a lot in the 2nd half definitly takes away from the upside of playing the Lions.

2 Tds and 100 yards not enough??

 

[SportsMumboJumbo]

2 Tds 100 yards like i said is a great game. It just is not an "Amazing" one like the one had last week going for 180 and 3 tds, which people may be expecting a repeat of

 

[drew726]

If for any reason Minne is up so much that they get Chester Taylor in the game, than it's because of ADP. It's a win-win situation.

 

[MSULions]

Detroit is going to Beat Minnesota this week...so play AP without fear of him sitting.

seriously...35-0 at halftime? put down the crack pipe. Minnesota won't score 35 in an entire game this entire season. not with Favre at the helm. they'll be luck to crack 20 this week - and every one after.

AP will get his...probably 100-130 yds and 1-2 tds. but so will Calvin Johnson

 

[dparker713]

2 Tds 100 yards like i said is a great game. It just is not an "Amazing" one like the one had last week going for 180 and 3 tds, which people may be expecting a repeat of

If he doesnt get 196 total yards and 3TDs, he'll fall off the 3136 yd 48TD yearly projection I had for him. Pretty sure no one is expecting a repeat of last week every week he plays, though he might do something similar at some point this year.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Last year, Peterson ran for 23 carries for 102 yards in one game and 25 carries for 111 yards in the other. No TDs in either game, but I don't believe for a second that Detroit will keep Peterson out of the end zone for the third consecutive game.

 

[editor47]

this is the same defense that just allowed mike bell to run for 140 yards right? i'm not saying AP will go for 300, but he could.

 

[Johnny Ice]

Peterson will do his part in getting you a victory whether he plays the whole game or 3 qtrs, the rest is on the other guys.

 

[tangfoot]

Detroit is going to Beat Minnesota this week...

I have a side bet at work and I'm saying the same thing.Detroit gets off the schnide against a MIN team that is still trying to find itself. Perfect time for this game to be IN Detroit.

 

[thatguythere]

Detroit is going to Beat Minnesota this week...

I have a side bet at work and I'm saying the same thing.Detroit gets off the schnide against a MIN team that is still trying to find itself. Perfect time for this game to be IN Detroit.

Good Luck with that.

 

[Heatman]

Detroit is going to Beat Minnesota this week...so play AP without fear of him sitting.

seriously...35-0 at halftime? put down the crack pipe. Minnesota won't score 35 in an entire game this entire season. not with Favre at the helm. they'll be luck to crack 20 this week - and every one after.

AP will get his...probably 100-130 yds and 1-2 tds. but so will Calvin Johnson

Yeaah um... Mr. Stafford... meet Mr. Allen.... welcome to the NFL.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It could easily be 35-0 at halftime

Like last season when Minnesota won 12-10 and 20-16. Its a division game. The Lions have improved (so has Minny). Just because Drew Brees dropped 6 TDs last week, it doesn't mean this game is going to be a blowout.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

2 Tds 100 yards like i said is a great game. It just is not an "Amazing" one like the one had last week going for 180 and 3 tds, which people may be expecting a repeat of

I think people are rational enough to realize that nearly 200 yards and 3 TDs isn't going to be the norm for any RB, including the league's best. Although after reading all the week one panic threads, maybe I'm wrong.

 

[ctdub]

2 Tds 100 yards like i said is a great game. It just is not an "Amazing" one like the one had last week going for 180 and 3 tds, which people may be expecting a repeat of

That's 22 Fantasy points in standard scoring leagues. Likely good for top RB produciton most weeks. I'll be estatic to get 100/2 or even 100/1 on a weekly basis for AD.Peterson will get his touches, 20-25, if he doesn't get the job done at that point I'm fine having a mediorce game... It's a long season and no reason to break him down in week 2 against the Lions.

 

[Sinn Fein]

My sense is that Peterson will not do as well as Mike Bell for a few reasons. The primary reason is the defensive game plan. WHen you game plan against NO you game plan to try to stop the passing game - that means the RB should have better holes to run through. When you game plan against Minnesota you game plan to stop the run. Thus, while ADP is a "better" RB than Bell, the defense will be geared toward stopping him and making Favre beat them. He will find yards a little tougher to come by.

 

[SportsMumboJumbo]

Thats another good point, besides the blowout factor and benching. If Favre sucks it up, they will be putting 8 or 9 in the box and even against the Lions thats tough to run on.

 

[Kuz]

Detroit is going to Beat Minnesota this week...

I have a side bet at work and I'm saying the same thing.Detroit gets off the schnide against a MIN team that is still trying to find itself. Perfect time for this game to be IN Detroit.

Good Luck with that.

yeah.. The Lions are going to win a game this year but it won't be this week.. I think it will be similar to last week for the Vikings. Close in the 1st half & then cruise to a 14 point win..

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

My sense is that Peterson will not do as well as Mike Bell for a few reasons. The primary reason is the defensive game plan. WHen you game plan against NO you game plan to try to stop the passing game - that means the RB should have better holes to run through. When you game plan against Minnesota you game plan to stop the run. Thus, while ADP is a "better" RB than Bell, the defense will be geared toward stopping him and making Favre beat them. He will find yards a little tougher to come by.

I'm pretty sure the team AP lit up for 180/3 game planned to stop the run too.

 

[thatguy]

My sense is that Peterson will not do as well as Mike Bell for a few reasons. The primary reason is the defensive game plan. WHen you game plan against NO you game plan to try to stop the passing game - that means the RB should have better holes to run through. When you game plan against Minnesota you game plan to stop the run. Thus, while ADP is a "better" RB than Bell, the defense will be geared toward stopping him and making Favre beat them. He will find yards a little tougher to come by.

I'm pretty sure the team AP lit up for 180/3 game planned to stop the run too.

Yup. And the Lions team that game planned to stop the pass gave up 350 yards and 6 TDs through the air. Just because a team game plans to stop a certain player doesn't mean they have the talent or the scheme to achieve that goal.ETA: I'll also add, I think one reason ADP consistently breaks long runs is a direct result of teams game planning to stop him... Putting 8 in the box is very dangerous if you have a guy that can consistently get to the second level in spite of your efforts to stop him. Once ADP gets past the line, he can break a few tackles, make a few people miss, and then it's a foot race between him and a couple of DB's to the endzone - Adrian usually wins that race.

 

[GridironMenace]

Intradivision rivals. They know eachother VERY well. This game will NOT be a blow out. Minnesota will win, but by 10 points or less.

 

[noneother]

ADP will be sittin pine by the middle of the 3rd quarter.

He'll have about 100 yards and a TD.

It will be a regular balance between him and Chet.Until it gets outta hand. The old man will throw three TDs. 2 to harvin. Taylor will score once. And the defense will score once.

The lions will play their best game in 12 months.