Adrian Peterson (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

I searched for any thread on him, couldn't find one.

Chester owners (like myself) are devastated, but what does the signing in Minnesota mean for AD?

What can we expect from him. I am in an auction keeper league, and have a lot of money to spend on AD, and I will most likely focus on him solely, but I don't think he will be as good as Bush was last year.

What is everyone expecting now? And what is the best we can expect from Chester?

I am wondering if either one of these guys will get 1000 yards rushing, and the RB's in general last year didn't see as many receptions as we expected.

Does anyone else think this is ugly in 2007 for both guys.

 

[eefflrat]

Silence is golden, am I missing a thread that discusses this already?

Sorry if I am.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I think he'll have between 200-225 carries for 900-1000 yards. Little on the receiving end, 150 tops.

 

[Jedimaster21]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.

As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

 

[WhoDat]

I expect C. Taylor will clearly be #2 on the depth chart by Week 8.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

Same was said of Thomas Jones. Vikings want to run two backs ala Indy last year.

 

[fruity pebbles]

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

 

[cscmtp]

AP 1650 yards, 200 receiving, 16 total TDS. Why so high? Because I just drafted him in a new dynasty league.

 

[snarfsnarf]

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

Interesting, I would be happy if Chester = Deuce. But I don't think Chester is talented enough to justify the same split with AD.

 

[Jedimaster21]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.

As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

Same was said of Thomas Jones. Vikings want to run two backs ala Indy last year.

Big difference between Peterson and Jones. Would you put Chester Taylor on the field over Peterson?

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

I definitely think many teams are going to a RBBC, but when a team has an elite player that can take the pounding, he will get the vast majority of the work. Peterson is not a situational runner, and they will use him as much as they can. I would be very surprised if he got less than 300 carries next year.

 

[ericttspikes]

I really like Peterson. The Vikes O-line should gel more this year. Having a young QB will mean probably relying on the run game a bit more. I'd expect him to be in the top 15 RBs next year with a good chance of producing top 10 stats, even with Taylor sharing some carries. I agree that there is no way Chester Taylor will keep Peterson on the bench. CT may start the year, but this will be the Peterson show quickly after that. I hope this guy stays healthy, he could be a GREAT one.

 

[fruity pebbles]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.

As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

Same was said of Thomas Jones. Vikings want to run two backs ala Indy last year.

Big difference between Peterson and Jones. Would you put Chester Taylor on the field over Peterson?

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

I definitely think many teams are going to a RBBC, but when a team has an elite player that can take the pounding, he will get the vast majority of the work. Peterson is not a situational runner, and they will use him as much as they can. I would be very surprised if he got less than 300 carries next year.

The comparison isn't Peterson and Jones, it's Peterson and Benson and Jones and Chester. And yes, I would most definitely put Chester on the field over Peterson given AP's injury history and the penchant for rookies to hit the wall. Near even split, mark my words. Very similar to Addai/Rhodes, Dillon/Maroney, Taylor/Drew.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

I think he'll have between 200-225 carries for 900-1000 yards. Little on the receiving end, 150 tops.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been hearing that ADP most likely will require shoulder surgery that could keep him out for 4 months. That would take away all of training camp and if the surgery happened right away it would be close to the start of the season before he could see any action. I suspect that Taylor will have more value this year than most people are giving him credit for, especially earlier in the year.

Given the so-so outlook for the passing game (unproven at both QB and WR), the team may try to run the ball a lot. I'm guessing 250 carries for Taylor and 150 for ADP at this point, subject to change as we approach the season.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I think he'll have between 200-225 carries for 900-1000 yards. Little on the receiving end, 150 tops.

strong analysis

 

[Jedimaster21]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.

As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

Same was said of Thomas Jones. Vikings want to run two backs ala Indy last year.

Big difference between Peterson and Jones. Would you put Chester Taylor on the field over Peterson?

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

I definitely think many teams are going to a RBBC, but when a team has an elite player that can take the pounding, he will get the vast majority of the work. Peterson is not a situational runner, and they will use him as much as they can. I would be very surprised if he got less than 300 carries next year.

The comparison isn't Peterson and Jones, it's Peterson and Benson and Jones and Chester. And yes, I would most definitely put Chester on the field over Peterson given AP's injury history and the penchant for rookies to hit the wall. Near even split, mark my words. Very similar to Addai/Rhodes, Dillon/Maroney, Taylor/Drew.

If Peterson was in Chicago rather than Jones, the Bears wouldn't have drafted Benson. I also don't agree that the dropoff from Benson to Jones is the same as Peterson to Chester. Some would argue that Jones is a better player. When two players have similar talent, or one is better suited as a situational player, then there will be a RBBC. IMO, Peterson is an elite talent in the NFL, and Chester is a very good backup. Since Peterson was taken at #7 to a team that has many other needs, I would say that the Vikings agree with my assessment. Look at the pairs you selected and you can clearly see the difference between those situations and this one.

 

[switz]

I'm looking for a pretty even split between the two backs.

Here's my early prognostication:

CT:

217 carries 911 yards 4TDs

25 receptions 163 yards 1TD

AP:

235 carries 1058 yards 8TDs

10 receptions 80 yards 2TDs

 

[switz]

I think he'll have between 200-225 carries for 900-1000 yards. Little on the receiving end, 150 tops.

strong analysis

Hey that's about what I came up with as well...

 

[fruity pebbles]

If Peterson is healthy (which he will be), I really don't see Chester keeping him off the field. He will have to improve at pass blocking, but I think he has underrated receiving skills and he has more than twice the talent of Taylor. I would be very surprised if he didn't see at least 2/3 of the carries.

As for Chester owners, it is just very bad luck. At this point, he is just a handcuff.

Same was said of Thomas Jones. Vikings want to run two backs ala Indy last year.

Big difference between Peterson and Jones. Would you put Chester Taylor on the field over Peterson?

http://www.startribune.com/101/story/1151022.html

I definitely think many teams are going to a RBBC, but when a team has an elite player that can take the pounding, he will get the vast majority of the work. Peterson is not a situational runner, and they will use him as much as they can. I would be very surprised if he got less than 300 carries next year.

The comparison isn't Peterson and Jones, it's Peterson and Benson and Jones and Chester. And yes, I would most definitely put Chester on the field over Peterson given AP's injury history and the penchant for rookies to hit the wall. Near even split, mark my words. Very similar to Addai/Rhodes, Dillon/Maroney, Taylor/Drew.

If Peterson was in Chicago rather than Jones, the Bears wouldn't have drafted Benson. I also don't agree that the dropoff from Benson to Jones is the same as Peterson to Chester. Some would argue that Jones is a better player. When two players have similar talent, or one is better suited as a situational player, then there will be a RBBC. IMO, Peterson is an elite talent in the NFL, and Chester is a very good backup. Since Peterson was taken at #7 to a team that has many other needs, I would say that the Vikings agree with my assessment. Look at the pairs you selected and you can clearly see the difference between those situations and this one.

I think you're underestimating Taylor. Benson was taken #3 by a team with other needs. I see very little difference in the pairs. Dillon looked over the hill this year yet he still got the carries. Rhodes is a joke.

 

[switz]

I've been hearing that ADP most likely will require shoulder surgery that could keep him out for 4 months. That would take away all of training camp and if the surgery happened right away it would be close to the start of the season before he could see any action. I suspect that Taylor will have more value this year than most people are giving him credit for, especially earlier in the year.

Actually, they say he doesn't need surgery. The surgery he was considering involved putting aplatye in, and he would miss only 6 weeks. I don't know where your 4 months came from.

 

[bostonfred]

Minnesota probably wants to be New Orleans, but Deuce is better than Taylor, Bush is better than Peterson, they don't have a Colston, and they certainly don't have a Brees. They do have a good offensive line, though, and two good running backs and a good run defense. The problem is, teams will pass on them early, get ahead, and the Vikings won't be able to come from behind. Overall, I'd avoid both players this season.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been hearing that ADP most likely will require shoulder surgery that could keep him out for 4 months. That would take away all of training camp and if the surgery happened right away it would be close to the start of the season before he could see any action. I suspect that Taylor will have more value this year than most people are giving him credit for, especially earlier in the year.

Actually, they say he doesn't need surgery. The surgery he was considering involved putting aplatye in, and he would miss only 6 weeks. I don't know where your 4 months came from.

I can't remember where I saw it, but they were discussing last night on tv that there's a decent chance that his injury was worse than he and his agent had led on and that they would determine in the next few weeks what to do about it. They slated the recovery time in the 3-4 month range.

Peterson not out of woods yet

Saturday, April 28th, 2007 by Kevin Seifert

RB Adrian Peterson, the Vikings’ top draft choice, will meet with team doctors and orthopedists this week to further evaluate his right collarbone. Coach Brad Childress said that “we’re satisfied with him right now” and reiterated that Peterson is expected to participate in the team’s rookie mini-camp starting Friday. But Peterson will have a “pretty good physical” before getting on the field, Childress said.

“You let your doctor determine that,” he added. By NFL rules, mini-camp practices are non-contact.

Peterson originally fractured the collarbone in October. He re-injured it during the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1. He said today the injury is “90 percent.” He believes it can heal on its own.

Time is a factor in determing whether to schedule surgery. Typically in these situations, doctors insert a plate in the area. Rehabilitation takes 3-4 months. That timetable could threaten Peterson’s availability for training camp and possibly the beginning of the season.

Star Tribune Link

 

[redman]

By mid-season I guess everyone expects Peterson to be the starter with Taylor as the primary backup and MeMo as the 3rd down RB? I'd assume Fason is either cut or lingers somehow as the 4th RB, playing primarily on special teams.

 

[bostonfred]

By mid-season I guess everyone expects Peterson to be the starter with Taylor as the primary backup and MeMo as the 3rd down RB? I'd assume Fason is either cut or lingers somehow as the 4th RB, playing primarily on special teams.

There is a reasonable argument for Peterson to be in there earlier if he's healthy. The guy might be their only playmaker on offense. And who cares if he can't pass block? You're only risking Tavaris Jackson. There's also a reasonable argument that they'll go RBBC for most of the season. Taylor might not be special, but he's a decent all around back. I don't think we'll know much until the preseason, but for now, my money is on Minnesota sucking this year, and me not wanting either back.

 

[BostonSportsGuy]

By mid-season I guess everyone expects Peterson to be the starter with Taylor as the primary backup and MeMo as the 3rd down RB? I'd assume Fason is either cut or lingers somehow as the 4th RB, playing primarily on special teams.

There is a reasonable argument for Peterson to be in there earlier if he's healthy. The guy might be their only playmaker on offense. And who cares if he can't pass block? You're only risking Tavaris Jackson. There's also a reasonable argument that they'll go RBBC for most of the season. Taylor might not be special, but he's a decent all around back. I don't think we'll know much until the preseason, but for now, my money is on Minnesota sucking this year, and me not wanting either back.

 

[eefflrat]

I've been hearing that ADP most likely will require shoulder surgery that could keep him out for 4 months. That would take away all of training camp and if the surgery happened right away it would be close to the start of the season before he could see any action. I suspect that Taylor will have more value this year than most people are giving him credit for, especially earlier in the year.

Actually, they say he doesn't need surgery. The surgery he was considering involved putting aplatye in, and he would miss only 6 weeks. I don't know where your 4 months came from.

I can't remember where I saw it, but they were discussing last night on tv that there's a decent chance that his injury was worse than he and his agent had led on and that they would determine in the next few weeks what to do about it. They slated the recovery time in the 3-4 month range.

Peterson not out of woods yet

Saturday, April 28th, 2007 by Kevin Seifert

RB Adrian Peterson, the Vikings’ top draft choice, will meet with team doctors and orthopedists this week to further evaluate his right collarbone. Coach Brad Childress said that “we’re satisfied with him right now” and reiterated that Peterson is expected to participate in the team’s rookie mini-camp starting Friday. But Peterson will have a “pretty good physical” before getting on the field, Childress said.

“You let your doctor determine that,” he added. By NFL rules, mini-camp practices are non-contact.

Peterson originally fractured the collarbone in October. He re-injured it during the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1. He said today the injury is “90 percent.” He believes it can heal on its own.

Time is a factor in determing whether to schedule surgery. Typically in these situations, doctors insert a plate in the area. Rehabilitation takes 3-4 months. That timetable could threaten Peterson’s availability for training camp and possibly the beginning of the season.

Star Tribune Link

that certainly could change things. He hasn't been hit by Brian Urlacher yet either, but he'll have two ames to test that shoulder out against him. This injury is at least a little concerning.

 

[EBF]

I think they'll have a tough time keeping him off the field once the gap between he and Chester becomes evident. If he stays healthy, he should get a lot of carries. 250-300 seems reasonable.

 

[TeamDingo]

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_5781678

Injury rehab for Peterson not set

The Vikings are expected to determine in the coming days whether they want top draft pick Adrian Peterson to have a plate inserted into his collarbone to aid healing.

Peterson and Vikings coach Brad Childress have insisted the running back will be ready for training camp and will participate in next weekend's rookie minicamp. But they have been less resolute on how they will handle Peterson's collarbone, which he reinjured during the Fiesta Bowl.

Peterson broke his collarbone diving into the end zone in the Sooners' 34-9 victory over Iowa State on Oct. 14 and missed the final seven games of the regular season. In his return for the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1, he gained 77 yards and scored two touchdowns in the Sooners' 43-42 overtime loss to Boise State.

Early indications are that Peterson will not need a plate to stabilize his injury. Under the worst-case scenario, he would miss about six weeks if he were to have the plate inserted. Given that timetable, the Vikings would make sure Peterson has the procedure soon, giving him plenty of time to heal before two-a-days start in Mankato.

Last week, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that Browns general manager Phil Savage said that in his team's view Peterson would not need surgery.

"The situation is that my collarbone is healing, and it's not going to hold me back from anything," Peterson said Sunday. "I'm looking forward to being ready when the season starts."

Asked if he would be at all tentative, Peterson said, "Like I say, by the time the season starts, everything will be perfectly fine.

"I will be ready. There are no worries in my mind."

Childress and Vikings Vice President of Player Personnel Rick Spielman did not address Peterson's injury or how the team planned to handle it. But they made clear that Peterson was not flagged for medical reasons, and, on Saturday night, Childress said Peterson would undergo a "good physical," just like any other rookie. He added that the team's doctors, including an orthopedic surgeon, would take another look at Peterson to gauge how to move forward.

"All those guys have to have physicals before they take one step on the practice field," Childress said.

But, Childress pointed out, there won't be any contact in the upcoming minicamp anyway.

 

[EBF]

Any medical types know if this injury will threaten his long-term durability?

 

[cscmtp]

a guy over ants says his best friend is a doctor, and football fan, and said if he gets this plate put in, all it would do is make is STRONGER than before, and "highly unlikely" to have issues again. For what that is worth...

 

[switz]

Any medical types know if this injury will threaten his long-term durability?

I have a friend who borke the same collar bone 5 times. While the area of the break becomes stronger, it actually makes the areas on each side of the break the weakest points in the bone. I'm not sure how to explain it, but that's what my friends doctor explained to him. Basically, because the bone is designed to absorb impact and spread it across the entire bone, when one area become much stronger, it creates stress points on each side.Who knows....I think Peterson will be fine. But that's my friend's experience. Oh, and each break was playing football.

 

[bostonfred]

A metal plate would make it better when he lowered his shoulder into one of the eight or nine guys they'll see in the box every down. I wonder if they could put spikes in the metal plate. That might make Vikings games watchable.

 

[Da Guru]

I searched for any thread on him, couldn't find one.Chester owners (like myself) are devastated, but what does the signing in Minnesota mean for AD?What can we expect from him. I am in an auction keeper league, and have a lot of money to spend on AD, and I will most likely focus on him solely, but I don't think he will be as good as Bush was last year.What is everyone expecting now? And what is the best we can expect from Chester?I am wondering if either one of these guys will get 1000 yards rushing, and the RB's in general last year didn't see as many receptions as we expected. Does anyone else think this is ugly in 2007 for both guys.

I really like Chester this coming year, now he is in the same situation he was for the Ravens.

 

[Duk]

Minnesota probably wants to be New Orleans, but Deuce is better than Taylor, Bush is better than Peterson, they don't have a Colston, and they certainly don't have a Brees. They do have a good offensive line, though, and two good running backs and a good run defense. The problem is, teams will pass on them early, get ahead, and the Vikings won't be able to come from behind. Overall, I'd avoid both players this season.

Peterson is better than Bush

 

[greggorymac]

I really like Peterson. The Vikes O-line should gel more this year. Having a young QB will mean probably relying on the run game a bit more. I'd expect him to be in the top 15 RBs next year with a good chance of producing top 10 stats, even with Taylor sharing some carries. I agree that there is no way Chester Taylor will keep Peterson on the bench. CT may start the year, but this will be the Peterson show quickly after that. I hope this guy stays healthy, he could be a GREAT one.

or it will mean 8 in the box to stop whomever is in the backfeild. I would temper your expectations on the Minn rushing attack (even if AD gets the majority of the carries). Traverious and the receiving corp don't scare anybody.

 

[switz]

Minnesota probably wants to be New Orleans, but Deuce is better than Taylor, Bush is better than Peterson, they don't have a Colston, and they certainly don't have a Brees. They do have a good offensive line, though, and two good running backs and a good run defense. The problem is, teams will pass on them early, get ahead, and the Vikings won't be able to come from behind. Overall, I'd avoid both players this season.

Peterson is better than Bush

Bush is more multi-dimensional than Peterson. Totally different runners. But Peterson is the better pure runningback of the two. Bush is the better overall football player.

 

[ericttspikes]

I really like Peterson. The Vikes O-line should gel more this year. Having a young QB will mean probably relying on the run game a bit more. I'd expect him to be in the top 15 RBs next year with a good chance of producing top 10 stats, even with Taylor sharing some carries. I agree that there is no way Chester Taylor will keep Peterson on the bench. CT may start the year, but this will be the Peterson show quickly after that. I hope this guy stays healthy, he could be a GREAT one.

or it will mean 8 in the box to stop whomever is in the backfeild. I would temper your expectations on the Minn rushing attack (even if AD gets the majority of the carries). Traverious and the receiving corp don't scare anybody.

Good point.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

A metal plate would make it better when he lowered his shoulder into one of the eight or nine guys they'll see in the box every down. I wonder if they could put spikes in the metal plate. That might make Vikings games watchable.

I was thinking they could go for a full adamantium lacing of his skeleton. That would make me feel better about his running style.ETA: Put me down for 288 carries, 1469 yards, 12 TDs. Plus another 300 receiving on 30ish catches.

 

[Routilla]

100 carries, 400 yards, 4 TDs. I am assuming he survives training camp and the pre-season before he reinjures the collarbone.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

IMO, the health questions are legitimate (if overblown); questions about AD's ability are not. If he is 100%, he will absolutely be the best player on the Vikings offense, and will get 20+ touches every game. He will instantly be vastly superior in every way to Chester Taylor, from a "running with the ball" standpoint. He will get the lion's share of the carries, and they'll throw him screens too. As far as 3rd and long, Chester will play until AD picks up pro blitz assignments, and then Chester will be a strict backup.

Redraft, Chester might hold some value for early in the year, at least in PPR leagues. For dynasty purposes, he is nothing more than a long term handcuff for Peterson.

 

[Bob Magaw]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents...

he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear...

he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long...

also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...

if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...

1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)

45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

 

[BigSteelThrill]

A near perfect split of fantasy points between Peterson and Taylor for '07 and '08.

 

[David Yudkin]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents... he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear... he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long... also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

Didn't we say the same think about Bush last year? That he would have some ungodly ypc with all those runs he'd get around the corner for big gainers? What did he end up with a 3.6 ypc?I'm not suggesting that ADP will suffer the same fate (especially with the MIN line), but sometimes things go different than expected.

 

[Bob Magaw]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents... he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear... he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long... also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

Didn't we say the same think about Bush last year? That he would have some ungodly ypc with all those runs he'd get around the corner for big gainers? What did he end up with a 3.6 ypc?I'm not suggesting that ADP will suffer the same fate (especially with the MIN line), but sometimes things go different than expected.

i may well be too optimistic in my projection... i'm admittedly upbeat about him as i think if he can stay healthy he may have HoF-type physical tools & innate talent...though some may say bush does, too...three things i think AD will be better at (& maybe always will be)...breaking tackles (though sometimes bush isn't tackled as he is undoubtedly more elusive in the open field, which effectively renders it a moot point at times)running inside (due to his size, toughness & physical nature)... he can exploit openings in the defense in more ways... short yardage/goal line situations (see above)... could have more scoring opportunities... though of course that is contingent on how MIN moves the ball overall relative to NO... the saints have an established, powerhouse offensive system in place with a veteran QB... the same can't be said of vikes... in combo yards & TDs, what bush did last year was probably close to in line with where i have peterson at (bush did have almost 90 catches i think)...* not sure, but it would be interesting to compare two halves of the season for bush (in ave carry, combo yards & TDs)... at first he tried to turn everything outside with his electrifying speed... once he settled down & took what defense gave him, became more patient & probed the inside (as he did in college), i think he finished MUCH stronger than he began... i don't think peterson will run tentatively or have as much adjustment initially coming to the NFL?maybe more importantly, i think he may be DEFENDED differently, & as he will probably be schemed around as more of an inside running threat (than bush), he may find getting to the edge & turning the corner easier (because of the constant threat of hitting something inside, off tackle, etc... not as present with bush)... he may not be as quick or elusive as bush, but he is probably his equal in top end speed...

 

[Coeur de Lion]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents... he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear... he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long... also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

He will instantly be one of the best pure runners in the NFL, running behind one of the best lines. Look out...

 

[Warpig]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents... he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear... he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long... also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

He will instantly be one of the best pure runners in the NFL, running behind one of the best lines. Look out...

Yeah...that line did wonders for Tarvaris and Chester last year.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Taylor ran for over 1200 yards at more than 4 per carry. That is pretty solid considering the fact that he was really the only legitimate weapon the Vikings had on offense.

I may have been stretching saying "one of the best lines in the NFL," but they certainly have a dominant left side and rank in the top 10 or so.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If Chester Taylor can run for 1200 and 6, AP would run for 1500 and 10.

At this point, I would speculate they'll end the season at roughly the same numbers - about 800 and 6.

If AP clearly outplays Chet in camp/early season, though, you'll see AP go over 1000 and get somewhere around 10 tds. IMO.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Minnesota probably wants to be New Orleans, but Deuce is better than Taylor, Bush is better than Peterson, they don't have a Colston, and they certainly don't have a Brees. They do have a good offensive line, though, and two good running backs and a good run defense. The problem is, teams will pass on them early, get ahead, and the Vikings won't be able to come from behind. Overall, I'd avoid both players this season.

Peterson is better than Bush

Amen brother.

 

[Q-Bert]

the thought of peterson on the loose & running wild on the minny fast track carpet, making a shambles of defensive game plans for the next half decade plus must be a horrifying & nightmarish apocalyptic vision for norris division opponents...

he's going to look like michael johnson once he turns the corner (often) & breaks into the clear...

he may well split carries or even less at first (beginning of season, first half, entire season?), but has massively superior athleticism, speed, talent & running skills to taylor, & is just too good to be kept down for long...

also, he showed at his pro day workout that his hands are better than advertised - BONUS PLAN ...

if MIN runs 400-450 X (i would with the young tarvaris jackson as the trigger man... & they do have a pretty good defense), he could get 225-275 carries as soon as this season, & be in the running with calvin johnson for ROY...

1,100-1,200 yards rushing (11 TD)

45 receptions, 400 yards receiving (3 TDs)

I think the receiving numbers you have are unrealistic. The Vikings RBs had about 400 carries last year. With Childress as the coach and Peterson/Taylor at RB I would anticipate 450-500 carries for the backs this year. Say 50 or so for Ciatrick Fason/Mwelde Moore types that leaves 400-450 carries for Peterson/Taylor. It all depends on what the split is. Assuming full health I would guess that Peterson gets 250-300 carries with minimal catches. Taylor and Mwelde Moore are both capable receiver/3rd down back type players and I would assume they will be used in that way.