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AHMAD BRADSHAW! (1 Viewer)
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Mustang Man
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I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
koreansteve
Footballguy
My favorite TD run this year...he bowled over the Panthers' DEF. Definitely looks good.
doubletrouble
Footballguy
dude it's preseason.....it's making david carr look good!
Um...if Jacobs gets hurt, Bradshaw will be a stud. I don't know what you are smoking, but Bradshaw is already in line for Ward like numbers, even with Jacobs playing....I know I'll be targeting him in the middle of the draft.I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
clueless. he has speed, great hands, and surprising power.wrong... lol
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
if BJ gets hurt, Ware will get touches... but Bradshaw will be the back to own
two_dollars
Footballguy
I think Bradshaw's role stays the same, and Ware steps in where Ward left off.
Mustang Man
Footballguy
Yep but that is why this is fun cause everyone has there own way of thinking. Bradshaw is not a stud, he is a comity back, he will never be a stud. He could do what D.Ward did last year but I think his numbers will be a bit lower then that. Hope I am wrong cause I do own him in contract salary cap dynasty, we shall see.
Bradshaw is a perfect sleeper or handcuff back and can be a big time flex player if Jacobs goes down. He is great.
He has shown it multiple times in the past and now that Ward is gone, he has the opportunity to do it on a larger scale.
To say he isn't a stud is pretty silly. He has everything you want in a potential flex player. He is explosive and strong.
He has shown it multiple times in the past and now that Ward is gone, he has the opportunity to do it on a larger scale.
To say he isn't a stud is pretty silly. He has everything you want in a potential flex player. He is explosive and strong.
mdog1967
Footballguy
I'll tell you what I have saved this post, I'll be happy to post it back here at the end of the year. I respectfully think you could not be more wrong.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Just make sure you do it no matter how it ends.
bostonfred
Footballguy
We should probably form a comity to make sure this gets bumped.
az_prof
Footballguy
Except he has also done very well whenever he has gotten a chance in the regular season too. It isn't like this is the first time he has proven what he can do. Whether or not he is an every down back is an unknown--he hasn't had the chance to prove it one way or another.I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
Let's face it guys. Yes it is preseason. But he still did some nice things against the 1st Team Defense. David Carr played against the 2nd and 3rd string Defense mostly. Bradshaw has a lot of potential. He never got more that 9 or 10 carries with D. Ward around. And sorry to tell you this Ward is gone, Andre Brown is out for the year. And Ware will take a few carries but Bradshaw is the back that can do it all. People also said that Pierre Thomas isn't an every down back. And guess what. They passed on drafting Beanie Wells and they let Deuce McCallister go. So I think Pierre Thomas has the confidence of the coaching staff that he can do it all. Same with Bradshaw. Bradshaw will get be a top 25 RB easy this year, especially in PPR leagues.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
If Jacobs goes down, I imagine there will not be that much comity between Ward and Bradshaw as they vie for the carries.
was hearing good things about Carr in the spring too.After being shellacked in Houston, he's getting it together and the time on the sideline and with the coaches has really helped him.He was always (IMO) more talented than the results so he's an interesting guy to watch in that his career may not be over as many presumed.
I loved the spike with the defender draped all over him.
mdog1967
Footballguy
Of course, because slapping your head
at the end of the year when you get it wrong is no wear near as fun as being right, but its still got its entertainment value!!!BuckeyeArt
Footballguy
Bradshaw looked like he was wearing two sets of shoulder pads. I didn't see anything out of him that would suggest he couldn't be an every down back.
Other than the screen, Ware didn't look as good as I had hoped he would. He seemed to run with less power as the game went on.
Other than the screen, Ware didn't look as good as I had hoped he would. He seemed to run with less power as the game went on.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
During the Giants Super Bowl run, Bradshaw was easily their best RB (Ward was out with a broken leg though). In fact even in the fourth quarter of close games like Tampa Bay it was Bradshaw and not Jacobs who was on the field grinding out the clock.Bradshaw can most certainly be an everydown back. He has great vision, more than enough speed and surprising power for a "small" back. One of my favorite memories from the Giants-Pats SuperBowl was him carrying a DL 5 or six yards down the field on his back.Except he has also done very well whenever he has gotten a chance in the regular season too. It isn't like this is the first time he has proven what he can do. Whether or not he is an every down back is an unknown--he hasn't had the chance to prove it one way or another.I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
Cenobite
Footballguy
I've read that too but I am not a believer. Bradshaw has proven to be an effective RB while Ware has not. If Jacobs goes down it could well be a 50-50 split at most for Ware. I'm thinking 65-35 Bradshaw. IMHO Bradshaw is the guy to own.
jwb
Footballguy
Bradshaw reminds me a little of DWill in the fact that people are getting tired of "waiting" for the guy. Not saying he's going to ever have DWill numbers, and yes, their pedigrees are different. But they both had expectations, and they both failed to meet them in the first few years largely due to a lack of carries.
I've been a big backer of AB here, own him in several leagues, and even I got a little discouraged after last year (where I was sure he'd be the RB2 there.) But my eyes are telling me this kid really has something - it's just evident every time he gets the ball - regular season, preseason, whatever.
Ok, this is the year where he pays off for all of us guys who've been holding him.
I've been a big backer of AB here, own him in several leagues, and even I got a little discouraged after last year (where I was sure he'd be the RB2 there.) But my eyes are telling me this kid really has something - it's just evident every time he gets the ball - regular season, preseason, whatever.
Ok, this is the year where he pays off for all of us guys who've been holding him.
starting over
Footballguy
Wow, Mustang was going for "committee"? I was trying to figure out how "comity" in the legal sense was appropriate and couldn't figure it out, and was feeling a bit
Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)
• Author: Scout Kevin Roberts
Comments/Analysis:
Pre-Season Update
Week One
Bradshaw looked absolutely ready to step in and take over for the departed Derrick Ward, as he ran over and around defenders in Monday night's action, helping the Giants start their pre-season with a 24-17 victory over the Panthers.
With 35 yards rushing and a touchdown on just five carries, Bradshaw put forth further evidence that he should not merely be regarded as Brandon Jacobs' "hand-cuff".
Bradshaw plays low to the ground, and while we already knew he was quick with good speed, he also plays with great power and runs with determination.
This was very evident on an impressive 19-yard jaunt that had him ramming through two Carolina defenders, while shaking off a third as he rumbled into the end-zone.
If it weren't official already, write it down: Bradshaw is draftable, with or without Jacobs in the equation.
• Author: Scout Kevin Roberts
Comments/Analysis:
Pre-Season Update
Week One
Bradshaw looked absolutely ready to step in and take over for the departed Derrick Ward, as he ran over and around defenders in Monday night's action, helping the Giants start their pre-season with a 24-17 victory over the Panthers.
With 35 yards rushing and a touchdown on just five carries, Bradshaw put forth further evidence that he should not merely be regarded as Brandon Jacobs' "hand-cuff".
Bradshaw plays low to the ground, and while we already knew he was quick with good speed, he also plays with great power and runs with determination.
This was very evident on an impressive 19-yard jaunt that had him ramming through two Carolina defenders, while shaking off a third as he rumbled into the end-zone.
If it weren't official already, write it down: Bradshaw is draftable, with or without Jacobs in the equation.
az_prof
Footballguy
I see him as a great flex play option.Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)• Author: Scout Kevin Roberts Comments/Analysisre-Season UpdateWeek OneBradshaw looked absolutely ready to step in and take over for the departed Derrick Ward, as he ran over and around defenders in Monday night's action, helping the Giants start their pre-season with a 24-17 victory over the Panthers.With 35 yards rushing and a touchdown on just five carries, Bradshaw put forth further evidence that he should not merely be regarded as Brandon Jacobs' "hand-cuff".Bradshaw plays low to the ground, and while we already knew he was quick with good speed, he also plays with great power and runs with determination.This was very evident on an impressive 19-yard jaunt that had him ramming through two Carolina defenders, while shaking off a third as he rumbled into the end-zone.If it weren't official already, write it down: Bradshaw is draftable, with or without Jacobs in the equation.
RC94
Footballguy
He looked great and he seems to be bigger this year but hasn't lost any speed. Ware is also a very good RB so I am very excited about the Giants' running game this year despite the loss of Ward and Brown. Now we need a couple of WRs to step up and this will be a great team top to bottom.
If you target him in the "middle of the draft", it's a serious overdraft. Of 15 panelists on FBG, no one has him rated any higher than the 38th back this yearand several don't even have him in the top 50. I'm not saying that he can't exceed this draft position, just that I have my doubts that drafting him in themiddle rounds of the draft leaves much upside for him.Um...if Jacobs gets hurt, Bradshaw will be a stud. I don't know what you are smoking, but Bradshaw is already in line for Ward like numbers, even with Jacobs playing....I know I'll be targeting him in the middle of the draft.I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
ComfortablyNumb
Footballguy
Ssshhhhh!
Mods, please delete this thread so we'll still have some hope of stealing Bradshaw in the mid-late rounds...
Mods, please delete this thread so we'll still have some hope of stealing Bradshaw in the mid-late rounds...
identikit
Footballguy
He also had a great block downfield that helped Carr scramble for a first down....
Dragon1952
Footballguy
I was thinking 'comedy', but I wasn't sure how funny Bradshaw was.Wow, Mustang was going for "committee"? I was trying to figure out how "comity" in the legal sense was appropriate and couldn't figure it out, and was feeling a bit
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
I was watching the same thing, but i wondered was he just suppose to give a slight chip then roll out to the flat for the dump off, sort like a inside screen. But the blitzer got there too quick that Carr just didnt make a throw.
I like Bradshaw too but on that play im not sure exactly what happened as i dont know what the exactly play call was.
Carr being too slow on the throw wouldn't be shocking. haha
mdog1967
Footballguy
I have grown to love the great work that FBG staff members do here, but they are no better at figuring out who is what or what will happen than your average fantasy fanatic here in the shark pool. Matt was very High on Bradshaw coming out of college and I believe when he chimes in you will hear some praise. Matt by the way is the author of the RSP and no one and I mean no one does more in depth analysis of players coming into the NFL draft than Matt. Cecil and Sig are really good, but I would bet they have to be in a slight bit of awe of Matt's devotion to his work.Bradshaw is the real deal and fell to the 7th round due to character concerns. So believe your eye's or go with the flock. FBG staff gets a great deal right, sometimes they miss on a few. I am Fantasy Football for 300 plus days a year. I leave it alone in January and resume research in in the middle of February, I am an ardent supporter of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio and a big fan of FBG's. I tell all my league mates that they have to subscribe to this site to keep it going.Regardless of the amount of work that goes into the paid content of this sight, there is nothing more valuable then the insights and opinions of the Shark Pool. I would challenge anyone to find a more learned group than all of these misanthropes right here, right now.Your last statement about rated Higher than the 38th back? Well on the face of it that is ridiculous unless Bradshaw gets hurt. He will perform better in RBBC than your last ten starters.Bradshaw will finish no less than 20th best FFBL RB this year. You can take that to the bank ( sorry i forgot all the banks went belly up).If you target him in the "middle of the draft", it's a serious overdraft. Of 15 panelists on FBG, no one has him rated any higher than the 38th back this yearand several don't even have him in the top 50. I'm not saying that he can't exceed this draft position, just that I have my doubts that drafting him in themiddle rounds of the draft leaves much upside for him.Um...if Jacobs gets hurt, Bradshaw will be a stud. I don't know what you are smoking, but Bradshaw is already in line for Ward like numbers, even with Jacobs playing....I know I'll be targeting him in the middle of the draft.I am an owner of Bradshaw but know this if Jacobs gets hurt Bradshaw will not be a stud he is not an every down back. Also first team offense or not it is week one preseason football. Meaningless!Jacobs will get hurt this year, he is too big and runs too fierce to not get dinged. When he does Bradshaw is gonna be a stud.He ran over the first team defense of the Panthers.
identikit
Footballguy
Depends on the point in time...
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I liked him as a sleeper pick... been taking him around the 9th in non IDP and a little later in IDP leagues. But After that pre-season and the highlight reel TD on Sports Center, his ADP is going to be equal to that of Felix Jones. So be prepared drafters, once you see Felix go off get ready to pull the trigger.
Avery
Footballguy
Ahmad Bradshaw, RBHeight: 5-9 Weight: 198 Age: 23
Born: 3/19/1986 Bluefield , VA
College: Marshall
Experience: 3rd season
High School: Graham HS [bluefield, VA]
Drafted: 7th Round (pick 250)
DeAngelo Williams, RB
Height: 5-9 Weight: 217 Age: 26
Born: 4/25/1983 Little Rock , AR
College: Memphis
Experience: 4th season
High School: Wynne HS [AR]
Drafted: 1st Round (pick 27)
You're comparing expectations of a 1st round pick vs. a 7th round pick? Furthermore, what expectations did you have for a 7th round pick in his first two seasons in the NFL that your "tired of waiting for"?
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PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
Please explain, he had 5 catches last year. Thanks
corpcow
Footballguy
I am a big fan of Bradshaw, but there's also a bit of overreaction in play here. Bradshaw has always impressed me - he runs hard and bigger than his size would indicate (as he showed last night). The thing is, I just don't see him being worth a 6th round pick.
Ware is the guy to keep an eye on, you can get him in the last round and, honestly, I can see their production being very close at the end of the year (especially if Jacobs were to go down). Ware ran hard yesterday as well, caught the ball well too, and has been getting a lot of praise from Coughlin. Ingram specifically talked about how impressed they were on the local Giants Training Camp report thing on WWOR or whatever it is (and this was prior to Mon's game).
Ware is the guy to keep an eye on, you can get him in the last round and, honestly, I can see their production being very close at the end of the year (especially if Jacobs were to go down). Ware ran hard yesterday as well, caught the ball well too, and has been getting a lot of praise from Coughlin. Ingram specifically talked about how impressed they were on the local Giants Training Camp report thing on WWOR or whatever it is (and this was prior to Mon's game).
corpcow
Footballguy
Jacobs has gotten 46% of the rushing attempts in each of the past two years (obviously, may have been more if he stayed healthy). Ward got 38% of the rushing attempts last year (though almost 5x the number of targets in the passing game). Bradshaw had 15% of the rushing attempts and was barely used in the passing game.In 2007, Brandon also had 46% of the rushing attempts; Ward had 29%; Droughns had almost 20%; and Bradshaw had about 5%. The difference between Jacobs and Ward is greater, IMO, than the difference between Bradshaw and Ware. And, of course, I think Bradshaw and Ware are generally more interchangeable than Jacobs is with anyone else, and have relatively similar skill sets. Plus, if Jacobs were to go down for any extended period of time, they really wouldn't have much depth with Andre Brown already out for the year - so I would have to think they wouldn't want to overload any particular back.So, what makes you think that Bradshaw will get 65% of the carries when Jacobs, the clear #1 on the team, doesn't today?
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I agree with the bolded part for sure, but you can't cherry pick percentages like that. He was making a guess that it would be 65-35 if Jacobs went down. You are saying Brandon only got 46% of the carries, which is for the entire season, including the games Jacobs missed. You need to look at the percentage of carries Jacobs gets in games he is actually playing to get an idea of what the split might be when he is out, or look at what the splits between Ward/Bradshaw were during games Jacobs was out. Tell me what those splits were, and then I can have a better guess on what the Bradshaw/Ware splits might be if Jacobs misses games. I do agree with you that the split probably wouldn't be as high as 65-35, but your reasoning is not a fair analysis IMO.
