***ALCS Texas Rangers v New York Yankees*** (1 Viewer)

[Limp Ditka]

Love to see that cheating POS make the last out.

 

[bentley]

I love Robert Earl Keen, but I've never been a big fan of playing that song after wins.

 

[bentley]

Somebody should punch Craig Sager in the taint for wearing that suit.

 

[Raider Nation]

Congrats Ranger fans!

NOW HIDE ALL THE COCAINE...

 

[Guest]

Love to see that cheating POS make the last out.

We don't often agree, but this. I will again point out that AROD is bigger physically now then when he was known to do PEDs. What do you think that means?

 

[Txns8]

MVP = Lee or Cruz?

 

[Onions]

Congrats Ranger fans! NOW HIDE ALL THE COCAINE...

Clever.

 

[Txns8]

Nevermind, MVP must be Lee.

3-0, 24 innings pitched, 34 K's, 0.75 ERA, 0.58 WHIP this postseason.

 

[bentley]

MVP = Lee or Cruz?

Wikipedia already has Lee listed. If it's just for the LCS, I'd pick somebody else. Heck, Colby Lewis won twice as many games.

 

[Man In The Box]

Congrats Texas. Go get yourselves a ring.

 

[Premier]

ARod making the final out has to be one of the most poetic sports moments in years.

 

[Man In The Box]

Oh, and I'd be shocked if Colby Lewis doesn't get LCS MVP.

 

[bentley]

That's the way baseball go, Ron.

 

[Txns8]

Oh, and I'd be shocked if Colby Lewis doesn't get LCS MVP.

Texas Postseason Pitching Stats

 

[Txns8]

They gave it to Hamilton. Wow...

 

[bentley]

Oh, and I'd be shocked if Colby Lewis doesn't get LCS MVP.

Texas Postseason Pitching Stats

You seem to be missing the point that it's a League Championship Series MVP and not an AL Playoff MVP.

 

[Txns8]

Oh, and I'd be shocked if Colby Lewis doesn't get LCS MVP.

Texas Postseason Pitching Stats

You seem to be missing the point that it's a League Championship Series MVP and not an AL Playoff MVP.

You're right. Only one start in the LCS.

 

[Limp Ditka]

ARod making the final out has to be one of the most poetic sports moments in years.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Well that sucks.

This Rangers team is fun. I look forward to watching them take the Giants down for their first ring.

 

[coolnerd]

ARod making the final out has to be one of the most poetic sports moments in years.

no bleeping excellent posting

 

[DropKick]

I wonder if the impact of a World Series appearance might give the Rangers an edge in keeping Lee. Can they even get in the neighborhood of what the Yankees or another big market club would offer? No state tax in Texas, right? That's gotta help a bit.

Yankee fans already thinking about buying Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth???What is wrong with that picture?

 

[texasheat]

I love Robert Earl Keen, but I've never been a big fan of playing that song after wins.

They coulda played
and it wouldn't have killed the moment for me.

 

[Michael Brown]

Better team clearly won this one. Congrats Texas fans, you guys deserve this. Now go out and beat the NL...I'll be rooting for Josh to get a ring.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Pathetic performance by Yanks

Texas deserved that series

Congrats

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I love Robert Earl Keen, but I've never been a big fan of playing that song after wins.

That's Pat Green, not REK, no? 'I like Texas'?

 

[Darth Cheney]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

 

[Premier]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

 

[CrossEyed]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Not to mention all the other superstars the Yanks buy in the offseason when they raise their payroll to $300 million.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

 

[Darth Cheney]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Not to mention all the other superstars the Yanks buy in the offseason when they raise their payroll to $300 million.

Tell the Pirates owner to spend the money the Yankees give him. Then maybe the Yanks wouldn't have to buy all the Free Agents on the market.

 

[Premier]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

That's why I don't understand why Yankee fans are upset about this. You'll just buy your way into the playoffs again next year. What's the big deal?

 

[John Bender]

Congrats to the Rangers fans. They have a really really great team. Looking forward to rooting for them in the WS

 

[CrossEyed]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Not to mention all the other superstars the Yanks buy in the offseason when they raise their payroll to $300 million.

Tell the Pirates owner to spend the money the Yankees give him. Then maybe the Yanks wouldn't have to buy all the Free Agents on the market.

You'll never see me defending the Pirates owners/management, but the Yankees represent everything that is wrong with MLB, imo. A salary cap is the only way to make sure that all teams have a competitive chance. And I'd have no problem with a salary floor as well.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

That's why I don't understand why Yankee fans are upset about this. You'll just buy your way into the playoffs again next year. What's the big deal?

It's always a big deal to lose. At the end of the day, the game is still decided on the field not in the accounting office and that counts for something.....even with the Yankees ability to reload from year to year...(although the way the league is going....it's harder and harder to reload).

 

[Premier]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

That's why I don't understand why Yankee fans are upset about this. You'll just buy your way into the playoffs again next year. What's the big deal?

It's always a big deal to lose. At the end of the day, the game is still decided on the field not in the accounting office and that counts for something.....even with the Yankees ability to reload from year to year...(although the way the league is going....it's harder and harder to reload).

You guys have bought your way in something like 14 out of 15 years. You'll buy your way in again next year. Again, what's the big deal? It's not like Rangers, Giants or Rays fans where a playoff berth may come around every blue moon or so.

 

[Darth Cheney]

You guys have bought your way in something like 14 out of 15 years. You'll buy your way in again next year. Again, what's the big deal? It's not like Rangers, Giants or Rays fans where a playoff berth may come around every blue moon or so.

Because people don't like to lose.

 

[Raider Nation]

I wonder if the impact of a World Series appearance might give the Rangers an edge in keeping Lee. Can they even get in the neighborhood of what the Yankees or another big market club would offer? No state tax in Texas, right? That's gotta help a bit.

Yankee fans already thinking about buying Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth???What is wrong with that picture?

Yep, that's CLEARLY what I wrote. Just ask me to the prom and get it over with, goon.

 

[Darth Cheney]

You guys have bought your way in something like 14 out of 15 years. You'll buy your way in again next year. Again, what's the big deal? It's not like Rangers, Giants or Rays fans where a playoff berth may come around every blue moon or so.

And I think you're also being a bit disingenuous on a couple of your points.The Yankees didn't buy their 1996-2000 run. They utilized young, homegrown talent, veteran platooning, players who had been cast off from their previous teams and a couple of signings to build a ball club.Secondly, while some teams see the playoffs once in a blue moon....teams that embrace other ways to build winners see longer windows of success. Teams can still out scout and out develop the Yankees, and if they spend a little money at the right time, they can A) sign their young ballplayers through the primes of their careers and B) hit on a key FA or two that puts them over the top. If we were to be objective here....the Yankee way of spending and evaluating is actually a bit antiquated and can be counterproductive to yearly success.

 

[Michael Brown]

You guys have bought your way in something like 14 out of 15 years. You'll buy your way in again next year. Again, what's the big deal? It's not like Rangers, Giants or Rays fans where a playoff berth may come around every blue moon or so.

And I think you're also being a bit disingenuous on a couple of your points.The Yankees didn't buy their 1996-2000 run. They utilized young, homegrown talent, veteran platooning, players who had been cast off from their previous teams and a couple of signings to build a ball club.Secondly, while some teams see the playoffs once in a blue moon....teams that embrace other ways to build winners see longer windows of success. Teams can still out scout and out develop the Yankees, and if they spend a little money at the right time, they can A) sign their young ballplayers through the primes of their careers and B) hit on a key FA or two that puts them over the top. If we were to be objective here....the Yankee way of spending and evaluating is actually a bit antiquated and can be counterproductive to yearly success.

The Yankees often acquire players AFTER the best years of their careers. They pay a premium for what those guys already did, not what they're going to do. Did it with Clemens, A-Rod, Teixeira, Pavano, Burnett, Giambi, and they'll likely do the same with Lee. About the only one that didn't happen with so far is CC. Like I've said a lot recently, the Yankees pay a premium for more of a sure thing -- not for necessarily better talent. You know what you're gonna get from Teixeira. At the same time, you're not getting his upside, you're getting his downside. He'll hopefully give you a few years at or close to his previous production, and then begin to tail off. And you hope it's not a dramatic dive.

 

[shadyridr]

Also, there's something poetic about the team that was bankrupt earlier this year beating the Yankees. Also, if the Yankees were mad at the Mariners at the trade deadline for taking Smoak over Montero in exchange for Cliff Lee, how pissed off are they now?

I got news for you. Take Lee off the Rangers and put him on the Yankees, and Texas still wins this series.

Yanks were basically destroyed

 

[shadyridr]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

That's why I don't understand why Yankee fans are upset about this. You'll just buy your way into the playoffs again next year. What's the big deal?

Thats why I love being a Yankee fan

 

[Premier]

Congrats to the Rangers and their fans. Only hope that the Core Four gets to raise the trophy next year....but with a nucleus of Cano, Tex, A-Rod, Swish, Hughes, The Core Four, C.C., Carl Cawford and Cliff Lee we'll have a good chance.

Yeah....what's the point of denying it?

That's why I don't understand why Yankee fans are upset about this. You'll just buy your way into the playoffs again next year. What's the big deal?

Thats why I love being a Yankee fan

I don't blame you. That's why they have 300 times more bandwagon fans than any other team. It's funny seeing other guys in here challenging that statement though.

 

[Premier]

Secondly, while some teams see the playoffs once in a blue moon....teams that embrace other ways to build winners see longer windows of success. Teams can still out scout and out develop the Yankees, and if they spend a little money at the right time, they can A) sign their young ballplayers through the primes of their careers and B) hit on a key FA or two that puts them over the top. If we were to be objective here....the Yankee way of spending and evaluating is actually a bit antiquated and can be counterproductive to yearly success.

Please.The Rays will lose Crawford and Soriano this year. The Rangers will lose Lee. A few years ago the Brewers/Indians lost Sabathia and the Braves lost Teixiera. This serves two things:a) Obviously the smaller market teams can't afford to pay their players. Then the Yanks swoop in and take them.b) The Yankees never, ever, ever lose a player off their team they deem valuable. There's no point in arguing this, you already know it. My only point is there is no reason for Yankee fans to be upset. You will literally be right back in this position next year.

 

[RBM]

What was that goofy song they played after the last out?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In June I said Rangers were going to the World Series, let's stick with that. Rangers in 6.

The bar was not filled with Rangers fans per say, but the crowd erupted when Vlady hit that ball to the gap and several times thereafter. They don't talk baseball much around here but everyone is jumping on the bandwagon which is a good thing for the game. Good for the Rangers and good for baseball.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Secondly, while some teams see the playoffs once in a blue moon....teams that embrace other ways to build winners see longer windows of success. Teams can still out scout and out develop the Yankees, and if they spend a little money at the right time, they can A) sign their young ballplayers through the primes of their careers and B) hit on a key FA or two that puts them over the top. If we were to be objective here....the Yankee way of spending and evaluating is actually a bit antiquated and can be counterproductive to yearly success.

Please.The Rays will lose Crawford and Soriano this year. The Rangers will lose Lee. A few years ago the Brewers/Indians lost Sabathia and the Braves lost Teixiera. This serves two things:a) Obviously the smaller market teams can't afford to pay their players. Then the Yanks swoop in and take them.b) The Yankees never, ever, ever lose a player off their team they deem valuable. There's no point in arguing this, you already know it. My only point is there is no reason for Yankee fans to be upset. You will literally be right back in this position next year.

The players that you've picked aren't exactly the best example for the "small teams can't afford to keep their players" seeing as that all of them save Crawford were gotten from another teams (with all of those teams going nowhere) during a contract year for young players...something that has been going for quite awhile. Those players are testing the market regardless if the Yankees are there or not. That's not exactly "Lets cry for Minnesota because Joe Mauer is going to New York".Your right about b) though....but I don't even think that is exclusive to the Yankees.

 

[shadyridr]

LMAO at all the Mets fans blowing up facebook as if they just won the WS

 

[Premier]

Your right about b) though....but I don't even think that is exclusive to the Yankees.

Other than the Red Sox, I can't think of any other team this applies to. Maybe the Mets.

 

[Darth Cheney]

Your right about b) though....but I don't even think that is exclusive to the Yankees.

Other than the Red Sox, I can't think of any other team this applies to. Maybe the Mets.

I think the Mets, Sox, Dodgers (when they aren't in the middle of a divorce)....I think the Cubs, Cards, White Sox and Giants might have that ability as well. The Phillies are fairly close to that....... ( signing Halladay long term, picking up Oswalt, overpaying for Ibanez when the market didn't dictate that, signing Polanco, giving Howard a huge extension and expecting to pay Werth whatever he's worth is something that none of the above teams could do...so it's not exactly fair to say that losing Werth is about the inequities of the system. ) I think that a few other teams have a cyclical ability to do it....and then there are the rest that have to play smart Front Office to achieve sustained success.Really though...in the end has it helped the Yankees? 1996-2001 was a team built when they weren't the big **** spenders they are now. 2002-2008 isn't exactly a shining example of success, even with making the playoffs year after year. And IMO, this desire to spend and win NOW!!!!... has taken what appears to be two young players (Tabata and Jackson) that seem to have the ability to be decent 10-15 year players.

 

[Premier]

Your right about b) though....but I don't even think that is exclusive to the Yankees.

Other than the Red Sox, I can't think of any other team this applies to. Maybe the Mets.

I think the Mets, Sox, Dodgers (when they aren't in the middle of a divorce)....I think the Cubs, Cards, White Sox and Giants might have that ability as well. The Phillies are fairly close to that....... ( signing Halladay long term, picking up Oswalt, overpaying for Ibanez when the market didn't dictate that, signing Polanco, giving Howard a huge extension and expecting to pay Werth whatever he's worth is something that none of the above teams could do...so it's not exactly fair to say that losing Werth is about the inequities of the system. ) I think that a few other teams have a cyclical ability to do it....and then there are the rest that have to play smart Front Office to achieve sustained success.Really though...in the end has it helped the Yankees? 1996-2001 was a team built when they weren't the big **** spenders they are now. 2002-2008 isn't exactly a shining example of success, even with making the playoffs year after year. And IMO, this desire to spend and win NOW!!!!... has taken what appears to be two young players (Tabata and Jackson) that seem to have the ability to be decent 10-15 year players.

2002-8 may not have been a shining example of success for Yankee fans, but it did include a playoff berth every year save one, and a World Series trip on top of that. My argument is not so much that they buy themselves a World Series every year. The playoffs are a ridiculous crapshoot, so that's impossible. But what they do buy themselves is a ticket to said crapshoot every season. And yes, the 96-01 Yanks weren't nearly as egregious as this particular group is. Even I can admit that; but they did purchase some guys in there like Clemens. But that string of teams isn't what everybody is up in arms about. I think last year's team pretty much shat in the face of every non-Yankee baseball fan.