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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread (5 Viewers)

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So after all these dramatic stories  of AOC hiding in her bathroom in fear for her life from the rioters with several close encounters and accusing Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered......It turns out AOC was not even in the Capitol building during the riots, but down the street in the Cannon building. 

AOC is the new Jussie Smollett.  What a piece of work.

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Your link is broken. But, yeah, when I read that this morning my eyes nearly rolled out of my head.  :rolleyes:

Next she’ll claim that she too is being targeted by Jewish space lasers.

 
So after all these dramatic stories  of AOC hiding in her bathroom in fear for her life from the rioters with several close encounters and accusing Ted Cruz of trying to have her murdered......It turns out AOC was not even in the Capitol building during the riots, but down the street in the Cannon building. 

AOC is the new Jussie Smollett.  What a piece of work.
The emojis take away from the article.   

This is disturbing is that AOC would lie about some

thing of this magnitude. It is stuff like this that makes me hate politics in general.

 
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Apparently she may not have been lying. Other staffers that were there back her story: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ari-rabin-havt-capitol-riots-donald-trump-1566785%3famp=1

There seems to be a real effort to question her veracity about all of this. I have to wonder about the motivation. 
Im going to guess similar to what we see here...because it was her who said it.  

Im sure she stretched things a bit (and she does like the attention)..but this whole...she wasn't in the building part is odd.  The building was evacuated...no?  Was she in the building when people first started trying to get in?  Evacuated then to her office building...which then too was evacuated?

 
Im going to guess similar to what we see here...because it was her who said it.  

Im sure she stretched things a bit (and she does like the attention)..but this whole...she wasn't in the building part is odd.  The building was evacuated...no?  Was she in the building when people first started trying to get in?  Evacuated then to her office building...which then too was evacuated?
I’m going to say again: I’m not a fan of AOC. 
But the way some folks are reacting to her is very reminiscent to me of the way Christine Blasey Ford was treated. 

 
Apparently she may not have been lying. Other staffers that were there back her story: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ari-rabin-havt-capitol-riots-donald-trump-1566785%3famp=1

There seems to be a real effort to question her veracity about all of this. I have to wonder about the motivation. 
She was absolutely lying.  There were zero rioters stroming the halls anywhere near where she was.  She wants to spin it as though that whole area is the Capitol becauses there are tunnels that connect all the buildings.  It is a huge backtrack from her story.  And the fact she accused Ted Cruz of trying to help her get murdered is indefensible.  She should be censored for such nonsense.  

 
Your link is broken. But, yeah, when I read that this morning my eyes nearly rolled out of my head.  :rolleyes:

Next she’ll claim that she too is being targeted by Jewish space lasers.
Yep, she is still playing the victim card, even when she is caught.  She is Trump.  

It was not a link.  It was my write-up based on a couple articles i saw.  I underlined it for emphasis.  

 
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She should be censored for such nonsense.  
Eh, let's not go overboard here.  If we censured every member of congress who exaggerated a personal anecdote we would do nothing but sit around censuring people all day.  This is one of those times where it's better just to laugh a little, make a note, and move on.

 
Eh, let's not go overboard here.  If we censured every member of congress who exaggerated a personal anecdote we would do nothing but sit around censuring people all day.  This is one of those times where it's better just to laugh a little, make a note, and move on.
If it were just exaggerating/lying, i would agree.  But when you combine it with accussing a member with a felony it rises to that level.  

 
If it were just exaggerating/lying, i would agree.  But when you combine it with accussing a member with a felony it rises to that level.  
Even that's going too far.  "Ted Cruz tried to have me murdered" is obviously a stupid exaggeration.  "Ted Cruz behaved despicably by encouraging an insurrection that could have harmed members of congress, including me" would have been fine and is a more charitable interpretation of what she was trying unsuccessfully to say.

 
Even that's going too far.  "Ted Cruz tried to have me murdered" is obviously a stupid exaggeration.  "Ted Cruz behaved despicably by encouraging an insurrection that could have harmed members of congress, including me" would have been fine and is a more charitable interpretation of what she was trying unsuccessfully to say.
By now we know she tends to lean to the hyperbolic side when tweeting.   Much like another person who is not in office anymore.

 
She was absolutely lying.  There were zero rioters stroming the halls anywhere near where she was.  She wants to spin it as though that whole area is the Capitol becauses there are tunnels that connect all the buildings.  It is a huge backtrack from her story.  And the fact she accused Ted Cruz of trying to help her get murdered is indefensible.  She should be censored for such nonsense.  
Well, go censor her, GB.  Get after it!  :thumbup:

 
This took 15 seconds.  I'm sure a deeper dive would find a lot more detail:

Scott MacFarlane @MacFarlaneNews [1:42pm, January 6th]

NEW: US Capitol Police warning to Cannon House Office Bldg staff: "If you are in the Cannon Building, take visitors, escape hoods, and Go Kits and report to the South tunnel connecting to the Longworth Bldg"
ETA:  I'll correct myself here.  This evac notice was for the bomb threat.

 
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This took 15 seconds.  I'm sure a deeper dive would find a lot more detail:

ETA:  I'll correct myself here.  This evac notice was for the bomb threat.
But shows it was evacuated due to...get this...possible danger.  Add in the situation as to what was happening in the Capitol building and I think reasonable people would be fearing for their safety.

 
Im sure she stretched things a bit (and she does like the attention)..but this whole...she wasn't in the building part is odd.


DHS, Secret Service, DSS and the Capitol Police asked those in Congress to not comment on logistics of the building layout in public. ( i.e. I was here, doing this, but rioters who breached the outer level of security didn't know about these people hidden here, etc, etc)

AOC should have said nothing. The Congresswoman who denounced her, Mace, should have said nothing as well.

AOC lies were for political capital. However she created an increased risk factor for existing security elements, clerks, secretaries, technicians, janitors, cooks, etc, etc.

She lied for herself, common people will bear the cost of it.

 
I meant she really was trying to say this. It's not an exaggeration. It's just a straight lie. 
Everyone in politics lies so that is not a shock.  Be wise not to tweet your lies though.  We see where that got Trump. AOC needs to take a step back from Twitter  and just concentrate on her constituents for awhile.

 
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Everyone in politics lies so that is not a shock.  Be wise not to tweet your lies though.  We see where that got Trump. AOC needs to take a step back from Twitter  and just concentrate on her constituents for awhile.
Nah she just doubled down with a 90 min instagram video about an experience that never happened. 

 
Nah she just doubled down with a 90 min instagram video about an experience that never happened. 
She is telling the truth!  It is impossible for an oppressed minority sexual-abuse victim to lie about someone trying to murder her.  Victims never lie, even when they are lying.  

 
Why do care so much to be this outraged? 
Because she's not just admitting she lied. She's going after people and telling her followers to mass report them for harassment for just calling her out on it. Someone with her twitter following wields a lot of weight when it comes to silencing opponents. 

You can say what you want about Trump, he never led mass reporting harassment campaigns against individuals he disagreed with to have them removed from the public forum.

 
Just in case anyone interested in this and wants to know what really happened:

Since Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat, took to Instagram Live on Monday to describe what the Jan. 6 riot was like from inside the Capitol complex, critics have claimed that she wasn’t where she said she was, or that she couldn’t have experienced what she described from her location.

These claims are false.

While Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was not in the main, domed Capitol building when the rioters breached it, she never said she was. She accurately described being in the Cannon House Office Building, which is part of the Capitol complex and is connected to the main building by tunnels.

In her livestream, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez recalled hiding in a bathroom and thinking she was going to die as unknown people entered her office and shouted, “Where is she?” They turned out to be Capitol Police officers who had not clearly identified themselves, and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said so on Instagram. She did not claim that they were rioters — only that, from her hiding spot, she initially thought they were.

During the riot, reporters wrote on Twitter that the Cannon building was being evacuated because of credible threats, and that Capitol Police officers were running through the hallways and entering offices just as Ms. Ocasio-Cortez described.

The false claims about her statements have spread widely online, much of the backlash stemming from an article on the conservative RedState blog and a livestream from the right-wing commentator Steven Crowder. On Thursday, Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, tweeted, “I’m two doors down from @aoc and no insurrectionists stormed our hallway.”

But Ms. Ocasio-Cortez never said insurrectionists had stormed that hallway, and Ms. Mace herself has described being frightened enough to barricade her own door.

“As the Capitol complex was stormed and people were being killed, none of us knew in the moment what areas were compromised,” Ms. Ocasio-Cortez tweeted in response to Ms. Mace’s post. (A spokeswoman for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez said the lawmaker had no additional comment.)

Others have corroborated Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s account and confirmed that the Cannon building was threatened, even though the rioters did not ultimately breach it.

Ari Rabin-Havt, a deputy manager for Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, tweeted that he was in the Capitol tunnels during the attack. As Mr. Rabin-Havt moved toward the Cannon building, he wrote, members of a SWAT team yelled at him to find a hiding place.

And Representative Katie Porter, Democrat of California, said on MSNBC that after the Cannon building was evacuated, she and Ms. Ocasio-Cortez sheltered in Ms. Porter’s office in another building. She said Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was clearly terrified, opening closets to try to find hiding places and wishing aloud that she had worn flats instead of heels in case she had to run.

 
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Why do care so much to be this outraged? 
Lol...outraged?  What are you talking about?  And why would you care and why are you a huge hypocrit?  This is a discussion board.  Topics get discussed.  If this topic does not interest you then go to another topic.   But here you are getting all huffy about this and falsely projecting outrage.  Lol.  

 
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Just in case anyone interested in this and wants to know what really happened:
Lol...half the damn city is connected by tunnels. It does not make it the same building.  She told stories of hearing rioters storming the halls and a lot of other bs including accusing a member of Congress if trying to have her murdered.  You guys are bending over backwards to try to defend this drsma queen who villianizes every one on the other side.  You guys mercerlessly  criticized Trump Supporters fou four years for such behavior and now you are doing the exact same thing.  

 
Here is some of the bs AOC spewed...

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: I had a pretty traumatizing event happen to me. And I do not know if I can even disclose the full details of that event due to security concerns. But I can tell you that I had a very close encounter where I thought I was going to die.

What was the traumatizing event?  A police officer came by to check that she was ok.  The whole story is framed with one lie after another.  In what universe is a police officer checking on you an event she can't disclose?  And how is that a traumatzing event that she babbles on about for 10 minutes about.  Nothing but a lying drama queen.

 
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Lol...half the damn city is connected by tunnels. It does not make it the same building.  She told stories of hearing rioters storming the halls and a lot of other bs including accusing a member of Congress if trying to have her murdered.  You guys are bending over backwards to try to defend this drsma queen who villianizes every one on the other side.  You guys mercerlessly  criticized Trump Supporters fou four years for such behavior and now you are doing the exact same thing.  
BS

 
I see where AOC is coming from.  I slipped and fell on the ice this morning, blaming Ted Cruz for this.  It was very tramatic.
Please tell me you made a 90-minute video of this explaining in the most dramatic bad acting possible how traumatized your were and posted it on instagram which was then picked up by an eager and gullible media who were hungry for stories which fit their fear-mongering narrative.   And please when you get called out for your lies, make new versions of the story and condemn people who dare call you out. 

 
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Please tell me you made a 90-minute video of this explaining in the most dramatic bad acting possible how traumatized your were and posted it on instagram which was then picked up by an eager and gullible media who were hungry for stories which fit their fear-mongering narrative.   And please when you get called out for your lies, make new versions of the story and condemn people who dare call you out. 
Too cold out to make a 90 minute video.  I really need to move to somewhere warmer.

 
It feels like an entire party that’s based around insane irrational fears is criticizing AOC for overreacting to a genuinely confusing and scary situation.
What it actually is is denial and tribalism. You yahoos can spend thread after thread endlessly mocking denigrating and attacking people on the other side, but when one of your own becomes the target you turn your sites on the people pointing it out.  OK, being a lying idiot self-righteous narcissistic drama queen blowhard is perfectly fine when they are a Democrat.  In fact it makes one a media darling and hero.  I get it.  But spare me your hypocrisy.  

 
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Well I think it’s not as simple as “Hypocrisy! Lying! Drama Queen!”

The two parties are scared of different things.  This is glaringly obvious in every thread.  People on the right talk about BLM protests like they’re the Hunger Games or something, with all the crazy rioting and murdering.  Meanwhile a bunch of regular left-leaning people I’m Facebook friends with went to a bunch of BLM rallies without incident and posted about how proud they were to bring their elementary school kids there.  (I’m sure my kids and I would have gone too if not for COVID).  The BLM protesters were my friends and neighbors, they weren’t packed with scary people.  You guys are genuinely scared of immigrant caravans and sharia law and socialism, which all seem like absurd things to be scared of to me, but maybe not to you.

The video of January 6 was genuinely scary to me.  Honestly just video footage of an average Trump rally was way scarier to me than BLM protests.  You guys may see your friends and neighbors at the Trump rally, I see a bunch of unhinged irrational scary nut jobs.  I don’t interact with people like that.  They are scary unknowns.

So for me when AOC says she was terrified, that rings absolutely true.  I’m sure that she viewed that crowd as scary in the same way I do.  And AOC is one of the most likely members of Congress to be targeted by that crowd and there were thousands of them breaking in, acting violent, saying threatening things, etc.  Even if the crazies never actually got that close to her, she wouldn’t have known from her hiding place where they were or what they were doing.  I feel like I would have feared for my life in that situation.

It’s entirely possible that specific statements of hers taken out of context might come across as over the top.  If you respond to this post with “what about when she said this?”, I’m sure you can make her seem like she’s milking it.  But I think there’s ample reason to think both that AOC was genuinely scared AND that such fear was reasonable in that situation.  

 

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